The hilarious Jake Johnson, co-host of the We're Here To Help podcast and Peter Parker in the Spider-Verse films, joins Paul and Jason to cover Grizzly II: Revenge—a "horror" movie featuring George Clooney, Laura Dern, and Charlie Sheen that was filmed in 1983 and finally released in 2020 with a bunch of modern b-roll. They discuss all the concert footage, John Rhys-Davies' amazingly uncomfortable portrayal of Bouchard, the poachers who only want money and boners, the weird daddy/daughter vibes, and—wait... enough about the movie! Which hot young actors are Geek Sqwad?? Elordi is Geek Sqwad. Sweeney is Geek Sqwad. Zendaya? NOT Geek Sqwad! Who are the Geek Sqwad? A generation of digital native actors AND they get it. Check out Paul's episode and June's episode of Jake's podcast We're Here To Help.
The hilarious Jake Johnson, co-host of the We're Here To Help podcast and Peter Parker in the Spider-Verse films, joins Paul and Jason to cover Grizzly II: Revenge—a "horror" movie featuring George Clooney, Laura Dern, and Charlie Sheen that was filmed in 1983 and finally released in 2020 with a bunch of modern b-roll. They discuss all the concert footage, John Rhys-Davies' amazingly uncomfortable portrayal of Bouchard, the poachers who only want money and boners, the weird daddy/daughter vibes, and—wait... enough about the movie! Which hot young actors are Geek Sqwad?? Elordi is Geek Sqwad. Sweeney is Geek Sqwad. Zendaya? NOT Geek Sqwad! Who are the Geek Sqwad? A generation of digital native actors AND they get it.
Check out Paul's episode and June's episode of Jake's podcast We're Here To Help.
[00:00:00] Paul Scheer: Is this movie a game? A laugh, a joke? Yeah. It is. We saw Grizzly 2 The Revenge, so you know what that means.
[00:00:11] Music: [Intro Song]
[00:00:12] Paul Scheer: Hello people of Earth and welcome to How Did This Get Made. Today we are talking about Grizzly 2 The Revenge, but before we get into that, I wanna let you all know that How Did This Get Made and Dinosaur are going on the road. That's right. Jason and I will be in Boston, Philly, New York and DC.
[00:00:28] We have amazing special guests like Edie Patterson from the Righteous Gemstones and Danielle Schneider from Garbage World, as well as Rob Riggle and Mary Holland. It's gonna be a blast. Get your tickets at HDTGM.com. Now, boy oh boy. We got a movie for you. A movie 37 years in the making. That's right. This movie was just released in 2020.
[00:00:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, wow.
[00:00:52] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:00:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, I didn't know that. Okay. That makes a lot of my confusion. Makes sense.
[00:00:58] Paul Scheer: Well, just if, in case you haven't seen it, and I do recommend, uh, that you do see it because this, every now and then we come across one that is, pure perfection. And this is definitely one of those movies. Uh, all Hell breaks loose when a giant grizzly, uh, reacts to the slaughter of his babies or her babies, and, uh, attacks a massive big band rock concert in a national park.
[00:01:21] That, that's the premise. We'll break it all down, but first let me introduce I, my co-host Jason Mantzoukas. Jason, how are you?
[00:01:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow. Wow. We did it. We, we, we've done, we really, I, I, I don't know if we've reached the end of all of our bad movies. This certainly feels like a movie that was cobbled together from the found scraps of other movies.
[00:01:43] Paul Scheer: Oh, and it kind of is and I will.
[00:01:45] Jason Mantzoukas: That's yeah, that's what I'm, yeah, that's what I'm guessing at. But, but yes. Let's get, let's jump right in.
[00:01:50] Paul Scheer: Uh, this week we do not have our other co-host, June Diane Raphael with us, but we have found, uh, someone to replace her.
[00:01:57] Jason Mantzoukas: A suitable replacement.
[00:01:59] Paul Scheer: A suitable replacement.
[00:02:00] That's right. He is the co-host of the very popular podcast, We Are Here to Help. Please welcome Jake Johnson. Jake.
[00:02:08] Jake Johnson: Thank you guys. Thank you guys. What, what a movie you guys sent my way.
[00:02:12] Paul Scheer: What a movie.
[00:02:13] Jake Johnson: Holy shit.
[00:02:14] Jason Mantzoukas: You're welcome.
[00:02:15] Paul Scheer: You know, whenever we have a guest for the first time on the show, I'm like, oh, they may be upset when they have to sit down and watch it.
[00:02:22] But I was like, we gave Jake a gift. It's not even, it's only an hour and 14 minutes. It's not even an hour twenty. It was.
[00:02:28] Jake Johnson: With, Paul, six minutes of credits.
[00:02:30] Jason Mantzoukas: And, and I'm gonna honestly say, I'm pretty sure I watched at least 35 minutes of the concert, like say a lot of concert footage, concert footage, and. And b roll of just animals in the wilderness.
[00:02:45] Jake Johnson: How about the new fake band?
[00:02:47] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:02:47] Jake Johnson: The, the modern band. It was first of all, the concert when there was those ladies from the, the eighties vibe.
[00:02:52] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:02:53] Jake Johnson: I was like, I love this concert. This is incredible. This is a home run.
[00:02:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Yep. Like an eighties new wave, like I believe, like Russian.
[00:02:59] Jake Johnson: Yes.
[00:03:00] Jason Mantzoukas: I believe there's, they're singing in Russian at one point or something.
[00:03:03] Jake Johnson: But like the sexy, weird hip dances That is so like, not sexy, but you're like, I don't know. There was a time when like Jane Fonda did it.
[00:03:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Love it.
[00:03:09] Jake Johnson: It's working.
[00:03:10] Jason Mantzoukas: I loved all of it.
[00:03:11] Jake Johnson: Me too.
[00:03:12] Jason Mantzoukas: But, but you are right. The modern band was.
[00:03:14] Jake Johnson: Then all of a sudden in the middle, it's like a wedding band from 2010.
[00:03:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Who are shot super close with no microphones and they're performing to a hundred thousand people with no microphones?
[00:03:22] Jake Johnson: The guy has, has a little bit of a ponytail and like, who'd you cast?
[00:03:26] Paul Scheer: Now, I will tell you this.
[00:03:28] Jake Johnson: What is this?
[00:03:28] Paul Scheer: This was a real, this was real, this was a real concert in Hungary. Uh, so these are.
[00:03:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Wait.
[00:03:34] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:03:34] Jake Johnson: What does that mean?
[00:03:34] Paul Scheer: These are Hungarian.
[00:03:35] Jason Mantzoukas: The first, the, the big concert was a real con. You mean the big one?
[00:03:38] Jake Johnson: The, there's the original and then there's the yes. Additive stuff that the distributor did in 2019 to make money off of a Clooney.
[00:03:46] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:03:48] Jake Johnson: Chucky sheen.
[00:03:49] Paul Scheer: Yes. Alright, so this is what happened back in 83. Uh, 1983, the filmmakers created this massive, uh, musical festival in Hungary called The Beast Festival.
[00:04:00] Jake Johnson: Fun.
[00:04:01] Paul Scheer: Uh, so that's what we're seeing, and man. This was a.
[00:04:05] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay, so.
[00:04:05] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:04:06] Jason Mantzoukas: So. I'm sorry, just to, just to like pull that string a little bit, Paul. You are saying that people were hired to shoot the co like a concert video, like Woodstock, then they made the Charlie Sheen, uh, Clooney Laura Durn thing.
[00:04:20] Jake Johnson: Around and the concert?
[00:04:22] Jason Mantzoukas: Uh, are those separate elements that were then wedded together and then.
[00:04:25] Paul Scheer: Okay.
[00:04:25] Jason Mantzoukas: Then the extra, the modern footage, the drone footage, the.
[00:04:28] Jake Johnson: Was because the movie was 80 minutes and they can't sell an 80 minute movie.
[00:04:31] Jason Mantzoukas: That's not legally a movie, I believe.
[00:04:33] Jake Johnson: I think you gotta be 88 minutes to get paid contractually. I think that's the guy who has made little indies and like 83 minutes, you're like, it counts. Yeah?
[00:04:41] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, I remember. I'm pretty sure they added two minutes of bloopers to The Dictator to legally make it a movie.
[00:04:50] Paul Scheer: Alright. This is, this is what I know and this is, uh, Scott, correct me if I'm wrong, but, uh, Scott, our producer, found this great article in The Ringer, uh, about the making of the movie written by Brian Rafferty.
[00:05:01] He did an amazing job. So the first thing that they filmed was this huge concert created just for this movie, almost 50,000 people attended.
[00:05:09] Jake Johnson: Cool.
[00:05:09] Paul Scheer: Which made it one of the largest concerts ever held in eastern Europe.
[00:05:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[00:05:13] Paul Scheer: The concert, right, was completely real. Nazareth was the headline.
[00:05:19] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, okay. Nazareth.
[00:05:20] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:05:20] Jason Mantzoukas: Which is like a real, you know, seventies, eighties.
[00:05:23] Jake Johnson: They just, they did a concert.
[00:05:25] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah. No, the concert was the first thing that they filmed, and then they paid for it from the money raised by this conman producer, Joseph Ford Proctor. But the very first day they began shooting the non-concert scenes, Proctor ghosted them and took off with the rest of the money that he raised.
[00:05:43] Jake Johnson: So he is just a, he's a weird Robin Hood.
[00:05:45] Jason Mantzoukas: He gets money. Gives some of it away, then disappears.
[00:05:47] Jake Johnson: This is. Okay.
[00:05:49] Paul Scheer: He vanished for many years and was living in Thailand. Uh, he was convicted for fraud.
[00:05:55] Jake Johnson: Of course, you didn't have to say that. We knew that.
[00:05:57] Paul Scheer: That's where everyone goes. Um, but yeah, like that, that opening of this idea that this, this is a, this is a movie that was kind of bamboozled and yes, I think across the board. Uh, look, this is a movie called Grizzly Two. Based on the very successful Grizzly, I, not really, but it was based on Grizzly one.
[00:06:15] Jason Mantzoukas: It, I started to feel like, is there a Grizzly one? Are there any of these people from that movie?
[00:06:20] Jake Johnson: Yeah, that's right.
[00:06:20] Paul Scheer: Yes. There, uh, well, not from that movie. No, no, it is.
[00:06:23] Jason Mantzoukas: There's no carryover.
[00:06:24] Paul Scheer: There's no carry over.
[00:06:25] Jason Mantzoukas: I, I'm sorry, Paul. I'm so sorry to, I I have, I'm gonna be honest.
[00:06:29] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:06:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Nothing but questions. This is.
[00:06:31] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:06:32] Jason Mantzoukas: All of my notes are just questions, so
[00:06:35] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:06:36] Jason Mantzoukas: So are, when, when Clooney, Dern and Sheen shot their one in one half scenes?
[00:06:42] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:06:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Um.
[00:06:43] Paul Scheer: Yeah, by the way, this movie opens with, and we'll, and, and we'll break it all down. Like, 'cause this movie opens with.
[00:06:49] Jason Mantzoukas: Really?
[00:06:49] Paul Scheer: Like, well, I don't know if we'll get the answers but we'll at least ask questions. Uh, the movie opens with like, starring, you know? Yeah. And it's George Clooney.
[00:06:58] Jake Johnson: It also ends the first, uh, it's George Clooney's photo at the end.
[00:07:02] Paul Scheer: Yeah. And so like, you think like, okay, well it's George Clooney, Laura Dern, Charlie Sheen.
[00:07:07] And I'm thinking, okay. I worked at, uh, Blockbuster when I was a kid and in, you know, and I remember there was like an Adam Sandler movie, like called like Going Overboard. He has like one scene, but they put him on the cover box. Yeah. But this movie, it seems like they didn't even want to trust you to wait until like 10 minutes and they open up a scene on these three people.
[00:07:30] Jake Johnson: I, I got a quick, I got a quick question that really threw me off. Did you guys also see the Charlie.
[00:07:35] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:07:35] Jake Johnson: Gene documentary?
[00:07:36] Jason Mantzoukas: I haven't.
[00:07:37] Jake Johnson: Okay. So. There's a scene in there, Jason, that pissed me off while watching it and then pissed me off more while watching Grizzly 2.
[00:07:47] Charlie, Shane was offered this part in Grizzly Man 2. Total dog shit. He said yes, they needed him for seven days. Can't figure out why that seven.
[00:07:55] Paul Scheer: No way. Maybe just to fly to Budapest.
[00:07:57] Jake Johnson: He then got offered the part of Karate Kid.
[00:08:00] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:08:00] Jason Mantzoukas: No.
[00:08:01] Jake Johnson: He was going to be Karate Kid. His dad, an old school purist, said, all you've got is your word. So he passed on being the fucking Karate Kid, to be in this.
[00:08:17] Jason Mantzoukas: What. I mean.
[00:08:18] Jake Johnson: And the story was almost like I was mad at my dad for a long time, but that integrity, and I'm like, no, that's just bad dad was advice.
[00:08:25] Paul Scheer: For Grizzly 2.
[00:08:27] Jake Johnson: Terrible.
[00:08:27] Paul Scheer: For grizzly 2. And now talk about, no.
[00:08:29] Jake Johnson: It's not a movie you passed.
[00:08:31] Paul Scheer: So, uh, you know, later on.
[00:08:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Was the Charlie Sheen, Clooney, Laura Dern, was there supposed to be more? Or was this the sum total?
[00:08:41] Paul Scheer: No, they get murdered.
[00:08:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Of their, like all three of these future superstars are cast just to die in the cold open?
[00:08:49] Paul Scheer: Yeah. So, so, so originally that scene was gonna be later in the film.
[00:08:55] Oh, that's why about 20 minutes into the movie or so we see the National Park staff discover the bodies of the three dead teenagers because in the original cut of the movie. They had just been killed in the scene before.
[00:09:06] Jake Johnson: Oh, wow.
[00:09:07] Paul Scheer: All right. So this is kind of weird, right? So it wasn't until years later that the film's remaining producer, Suzanne Nge re-edited the movie and then moved the Clooney Dern and Sheen scene to the beginning.
[00:09:19] Uh, once they all became huge stars. Oh, oh. Now the screenwriter did say that the only reason that they were hired was because of nepotism. And they thought that if they use these names, that would help the box up.
[00:09:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Incredible.
[00:09:34] Jake Johnson: Who's Clooney connected to?
[00:09:35] Jason Mantzoukas: Rosemary.
[00:09:35] Paul Scheer: Rosemary.
[00:09:36] Jake Johnson: Oh, right.
[00:09:37] Paul Scheer: And I guess on a level of a movie like this, it was enough to give it like something, right?
[00:09:42] So they were, they were gaming system.
[00:09:44] Jake Johnson: That's fascinating.
[00:09:45] Paul Scheer: They said, yeah, their auditions are fine. Um, but, the reason why they were hired was to help like game the box office.
[00:09:52] Jason Mantzoukas: That's so fascinating to me because it seemed so odd to me that before they were anywhere near stars, the three people who would become the, maybe this is just truly an indictment of nepotism inside of this business, but the people who would become unequivocally the biggest stars out of this movie are the three who are like just cast aside in the cold open.
[00:10:14] Jake Johnson: I wouldn't call it nepotism, Jason, did you see the other acting in this movie? This was some of the worst stuff I've ever seen.
[00:10:21] Jason Mantzoukas: It's wild.
[00:10:21] Jake Johnson: The main guy and the blonde lady when they were doing their scenes. I honestly felt like this can't be on planet Earth.
[00:10:28] Paul Scheer: No.
[00:10:29] Jake Johnson: I mean, they're not real humans here.
[00:10:30] Paul Scheer: John Reese Davies, who I love, you know, obviously
[00:10:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Incredible.
[00:10:33] Paul Scheer: Obviously from Raiders of the Lost Arc, uh, Sliders. Been in a bunch of great stuff. He is doing something at a certain point, I'm like, should I be offended by what he is doing?
[00:10:40] Jake Johnson: Bouchard, right? Bouchard. He's a special character.
[00:10:43] Paul Scheer: Here, take a listen to, uh, John Reese Davies.
[00:10:47] Movie Audio: They say that Grizzly was created by the great Manitu but Grizzly grew to be so strong that even Manitu himself had to flee to escape him. In the beginning, a bear walk on two legs like a man. In those days, he kill his prey with clubs and not with teeth and claws.
[00:11:14] You really believe that garbage, don't you?
[00:11:17] Grizzly is a beast from hell. If you do not know that now. You will someday.
[00:11:24] Jake Johnson: He's an all timer.
[00:11:26] Paul Scheer: When they established later on that, well, he actually was just a normal guy who went nuts and now thinks he's a Native American.
[00:11:32] Jason Mantzoukas: That was after, after a bear killed his, his, his wife and daughters.
[00:11:36] Jake Johnson: It's a pretty awesome story. I will say pretty awesome storyline.
[00:11:39] Jason Mantzoukas: I know Jake, you texted me and said you're gonna go as Bouchard for Halloween.
[00:11:43] Paul Scheer: Bouchard.
[00:11:43] Jake Johnson: Well, just because I have every year since 2000.
[00:11:46] Paul Scheer: I mean, Bouchard really is a great character.
[00:11:49] Jake Johnson: It's special, special character.
[00:11:49] Paul Scheer: And I did think, I was like, did they like ret con his backstory because you know, John Reese Davis probably got to say like, I'm doing this.
[00:11:56] And then they were all like, okay. Like there's a moment where the lead actor literally takes a knee because it's like, well, I can't compete with whatever John Reese Davies is doing.
[00:12:06] Jake Johnson: How about when he moves the tree?
[00:12:07] Paul Scheer: He moves the tree with his bare hands, picks up.
[00:12:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Incredible.
[00:12:10] Jake Johnson: He's the strongest man on planet earth.
[00:12:12] Paul Scheer: I wanna answer some of these questions and I can also break down some things in the movie, just so you guys had, I have a clearer answer on some of this stuff. Okay. About this producer, he, so basically, uh, he took the money from the film. He didn't even tell the other producer. Instead, he let that producer's husband tell her that he just ran off with the money.
[00:12:32] Uh, he was jailed later for other, uh, shady business.
[00:12:36] Jake Johnson: You don't have to say that part. We all assumed it.
[00:12:38] Paul Scheer: Got that. And now this movie was made in Budapest and the Hungarian government seized all the film equipment because he didn't pay their bills. And as a result, they never got a chance to do post-production on it. They even took the bears. Um, and so, yes.
[00:12:54] Jake Johnson: I love indie. You know what? We were saying earlier, we all got in the bloat business when we all got in this team.
[00:13:00] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah.
[00:13:00] Jake Johnson: The other business I wanted to get into is this business.
[00:13:03] Paul Scheer: Oh, this is.
[00:13:03] Jake Johnson: I wanted to be in a movie in Budapest and have they, somebody come to my hotel room and go, there is no movie.
[00:13:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:13:09] Jake Johnson: And I go, why? And they go, they confiscated the bears. Everything.
[00:13:13] Paul Scheer: And the bears are gone.
[00:13:14] Jake Johnson: Thank you for so much for the opportunity, gentlemen. This was a really fun 10 days.
[00:13:17] Paul Scheer: I mean, and by the way.
[00:13:19] Jason Mantzoukas: Everything, all the film is missing.
[00:13:21] Jake Johnson: As well it should be. This was the worst project I've ever been apart of.
[00:13:24] Paul Scheer: 45 days.
[00:13:25] This movie, they started shooting in Hungary months after Ronald Reagan declared the, uh, uh, Russia as an evil empire.
[00:13:33] Jake Johnson: Mm-hmm.
[00:13:33] Paul Scheer: And they were shooting it on a, a military base. And they were apparently surrounded by secret police the entire time of the shooting, which is. It now. I'm like, is this an ar, like an Argo situation where they like, was this like a, a chance to get in?
[00:13:48] Um, and yeah, so this movie then toiled for many years, uh, in 87. Our friends at Canon Film Group who've made all the movies that we've talked about on this show, they were like, we're gonna re, we're gonna finish this up. But then they had to ditch it when they went bankrupt. So everything has kind of gone bad on this.
[00:14:05] Jake Johnson: Who is the group that just resow? There's a group that came in recently. Yeah. And said, with those three stars at the beginning, we could sell it to Netflix for at least $250,000.
[00:14:16] Paul Scheer: Well, that's the Gravitas Pictures. Gravitas, who are are big in the indie game. They're the ones who.
[00:14:22] Jason Mantzoukas: That's a real production company.
[00:14:23] Paul Scheer: Yeah. They bought it and they, and I think that they were like, this is weird enough that it could be like a Birdemic. I think this is me now adding my own thing to it. Like it could be a Birdemic. Like, well, we, they, they were able to re-edit it all together, put some bear footage back in, you know, they stitched it together just to kind of make sense, even though.
[00:14:40] Jake Johnson: Yeah.
[00:14:40] Paul Scheer: It, I mean, night day.
[00:14:41] Jake Johnson: The stitching is dog shit.
[00:14:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, the, the difference between eighties eighties, yeah. The eighties footage and the sh they, they shoot a bunch of like, and it so bad modern stuff, like modern drone shots. Modern, they, they shoot a bunch of a modern musical music festival.
[00:14:55] Jake Johnson: Yeah.
[00:14:56] Jason Mantzoukas: Where people are wearing like tie dye and all sorts of like, modern, uh, logo shirts and stuff.
[00:15:00] Jake Johnson: It is also the nature footage. At the beginning. I was like.
[00:15:04] Jason Mantzoukas: It's so funny.
[00:15:05] Jake Johnson: It's so funny.
[00:15:06] Jason Mantzoukas: It's so crisp.
[00:15:07] Jake Johnson: Yeah. But there's like, why not just make a weird 72 minute movie? Like the, during the concert there was those two old guys in white jackets playing something.
[00:15:16] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:15:17] Jake Johnson: I was hard laughing. But then when it cuts to like the karaoke footage of the modern band. Something about it pissed me off.
[00:15:24] Paul Scheer: Oh, well, I'll tell you this modern band, by the way, they're a band called The Days, uh, and they're performing their song, The Planet. Now here's the thing, all right, this was, uh, from a.
[00:15:33] Jake Johnson: Please tell me they're here today.
[00:15:35] Paul Scheer: I wish.
[00:15:35] Jason Mantzoukas: Welcome to the stage, The Days.
[00:15:38] Paul Scheer: Now the days that, uh, that track is from 2016, far away off from 1983. Um, and on a comment on the YouTube video of their song, it says the footage was requested by a company, but they didn't know what it was gonna be used for. So they unwillingly gave like, so they didn't know. They didn't know that that's how they were.
[00:15:59] Jake Johnson: So they signed a contract they didn't read. They're like 17 pages.
[00:16:02] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:16:03] Jake Johnson: And then somebody goes, how much? And they go 500 bucks, and they go click sign.
[00:16:06] Paul Scheer: Done. Just take it. Do it ever you want.
[00:16:09] Jake Johnson: I didn't know I was gonna be in Grizzly 2. It's a concert from 1983. We made it in 2016.
[00:16:13] Paul Scheer: Oh my gosh. So it really.
[00:16:15] Jake Johnson: It looked like time travelers.
[00:16:16] Jason Mantzoukas: It is so confu, I will say, like I, if I had stumbled on this.
[00:16:21] Jake Johnson: Yeah.
[00:16:21] Jason Mantzoukas: It, it was so con, you know, it was so confusing to watch this patchwork quilt of footage from different eras of, uh, uh, of filmmaking.
[00:16:30] Jake Johnson: Yeah.
[00:16:31] Jason Mantzoukas: So it is also visually, like the visual storytelling is all over the place.
[00:16:37] Jake Johnson: Yes.
[00:16:37] Jason Mantzoukas: They're making cuts, time jumps. They're making cut the bear bear.
[00:16:41] Paul Scheer: Bullet time.
[00:16:41] Jason Mantzoukas: The bear doesn't move. No, the bear the bear cannot move.
[00:16:45] Paul Scheer: The bears all by the way, also burned up in a warehouse fire in Hungary after the film was made.
[00:16:49] Jake Johnson: I'll, I'll tell you another thing that really threw me off, uh, yeah. And had stuck with me is the the young daughter storyline.
[00:16:58] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:16:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:16:58] Jake Johnson: When she falls in love with the musician. But there was no setup.
[00:17:01] Jason Mantzoukas: When did that happen?
[00:17:02] Paul Scheer: Nope.
[00:17:02] Jake Johnson: All of a sudden she's doing a scene and he's like, everything's just a laugh.
[00:17:06] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:17:06] Jake Johnson: And she's like, what am I? And I'm like, did I miss a 40 minute arc?
[00:17:10] Paul Scheer: A relationship came outta the blue, but that scene is perfection. I just wanna listen to it for a second.
[00:17:16] Movie Audio: What's wrong?
[00:17:18] Nothing. Nothing at all. I just, I just wanted to say, uh, we've had such fun together and.
[00:17:26] I like you a lot, but I'm nothing. I'm just a gypsy, a clown, a juggler. I go from town to town, I do my show, and then I'm gone. It's all a game. A laugh, a joke.
[00:17:44] Am I a game? A laugh and a joke?
[00:17:48] Yes.
[00:17:49] Jason Mantzoukas: When did they fall in love such that he's now being a dick to her?
[00:17:52] Jake Johnson: Also, who is he?
[00:17:53] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:17:53] Paul Scheer: It seems to all take place in a day. And what I really love about that scene is that he take touches his fedora like Hamlet looking at the skull, you know? And it is like, you look and it's funny, it's like a funny, like actor's choice to look at that fedora. And the Fedora represents.
[00:18:09] Jason Mantzoukas: I bet, I bet his lines were written on the fedora.
[00:18:14] Paul Scheer: Also the, this politician who's involved here. She's like, she.
[00:18:19] Jake Johnson: You mean Nurse Ratchet?
[00:18:20] Paul Scheer: Nurse Ratchet. Who said that was, she's like, I took this job because I'm 50 and no one offered me any work when I was 56.
[00:18:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Did we also all notice an uncredited Tim Spall?
[00:18:29] Jake Johnson: No.
[00:18:30] Paul Scheer: Oh.
[00:18:30] Jason Mantzoukas: British actor. Tim Spall. Mike Lee. Favorite Tim Spall.
[00:18:33] Paul Scheer: Wow.
[00:18:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Um. Uh, uh, Peter Pettigrew from the Harry Potter movies when Nurse Ratchet comes up and says, we need to go over there. And he says, you can't come in here. Can't. And he's got his arm in a cast. It's like a very young Tim Spall.
[00:18:46] Movie Audio: Hey, hey, hey, hey, look, nobody allowed in here.
[00:18:49] I think you've made a mistake. This is Senator and Mrs. Thornton.
[00:18:53] No matter who they are.
[00:18:57] What's your name?
[00:18:58] Rob.
[00:18:59] Thank you.
[00:19:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[00:19:01] Paul Scheer: Wow.
[00:19:01] Jake Johnson: That's cool.
[00:19:02] Paul Scheer: I mean, there's so much in here. Yeah.
[00:19:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Can I, based on what we were just talking about though, can we assume that the movie wants us to believe there was a love story between the daughter of the ranger and that pop star that we were just talking about, who's on stage? Is it possible they shot scenes? Are there more scenes for this movie? If there, if there that have not been included?
[00:19:22] Jake Johnson: If there are, if there are more scenes and they chose not to put it in.
[00:19:25] Paul Scheer: No, everything is in this.
[00:19:27] Jake Johnson: They put this new footage.
[00:19:28] Paul Scheer: No.
[00:19:28] Jake Johnson: They're the biggest idiots in the game.
[00:19:30] Paul Scheer: I, I mean, this is a movie that is, I, I feel like it's inept in every way. They did not like anything that they had, they used. Clearly.
[00:19:36] Jake Johnson: You knew what they could have had. Clearly they probably did shoot it. And when their film got stolen by the Hungarian government, it got lost.
[00:19:42] Jason Mantzoukas: I bet.
[00:19:42] Paul Scheer: Or cut it out.
[00:19:43] Jake Johnson: Or they cut it out. But also the scene then when that girl is with her dad, who I did not realize, was her dad, the main guy with the beard.
[00:19:50] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:19:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:19:50] Jake Johnson: And all of a sudden. It's like it's shot kind of sexy by the Jeep. And I was like, ow, is she gonna go after like the cool lead guy? Because I thought he was gonna go after the blonde lady. And then all of a sudden she goes like, I'm I, Hey daddy, I'm make you proud. I'm a good little girl. I was like what the fuck am I watching?
[00:20:10] Jason Mantzoukas: The same age. They seem like peers.
[00:20:12] Jake Johnson: But also this is terrible.
[00:20:14] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:20:14] Jake Johnson: Right. You imagine being on that set with that director, him being like, good. One more time. Say i'm a very good girl. I was like, Ew, just ew.
[00:20:23] Paul Scheer: This is why I also feel like it's also the actors feeling like they could say whatever they want. It's like we're gonna improvise here. Like, we'll, we'll have a little flirty thing. 'cause probably in real life they were a little bit close in age. Right. And like, because didn't she say like, you know, there's something about it where I feel like they don't know. Or like there was enough people there that no one was like, check. There was no script supervisor that day.
[00:20:43] Jake Johnson: Isn't a really funny idea, two actors who are improvising and they don't realize their father and daughter but the old guy's like, look at you sweetheart. You look wonderful. And see they were in a video village is like, it's a very sexual vibe.
[00:20:58] Paul Scheer: Look. He says that thing, he goes, do you go for daddy?
[00:21:01] Movie Audio: You're a gopher.
[00:21:02] What?
[00:21:03] You go for this? You go for that. You go for your old man.
[00:21:06] Mm-hmm. In a big way.
[00:21:07] Oh yeah.
[00:21:08] Mm-hmm.
[00:21:08] Let me have a kiss.
[00:21:10] Paul Scheer: Like, do you go for dad? Or like what? Like that's a weird thing. 'cause she's gonna be a gopher is if you go for this, you go for that, you go for daddy. I was like, Ooh, I felt weird. Never should you talk to your daughter like that.
[00:21:22] Jake Johnson: Well, right after that, that he was like, the actor's like, look, I'm the lead of this movie. Would you like to get dinner?
[00:21:26] Paul Scheer: I'd love to talk to you about the business when we go back to Hollywood.
[00:21:30] Jake Johnson: Was in there. We both know that.
[00:21:34] Paul Scheer: Now I understand that obviously we need to have our bears out there killing people. But this is a movie that takes place in a state park and it feels like they've never had a bear problem, ever. Right? Like they have no infrastructure to deal with this grizzly. But yet also this grizzly is not just a grizzly that's out for killing. It's a giant grizzly that has never been, it's like it's a Godzilla of grizzlies, which is also just a.
[00:21:59] Jake Johnson: It's psycho. It's a psycho grizzly too.
[00:22:00] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. It, it's 20 feet tall.
[00:22:02] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:22:02] Jason Mantzoukas: I mean, they keep saying, they're finding claw marks 18 feet up in tree like it is. And when they try and give you perspective, when the bear finally, finally gets it's, yeah. When the bear finally gets to the festival, some people, yes, appear as though they're looking at a kailju, and some people are like, oh, there's a bear over there.
[00:22:20] Paul Scheer: Well, my favorite part is when the bear kills, like there's like a little, there's, there's a couple things that we're following. We're following.
[00:22:25] We're following the bear, people trying to solve the bear problem. We're following the concert. People we're, and then we're also following this.
[00:22:31] Jason Mantzoukas: The poachers.
[00:22:31] Paul Scheer: Well, the, this is what I was talking about this, the.
[00:22:33] Jake Johnson: How about the drug dealer?
[00:22:35] Paul Scheer: Well, the drug dealer from Jamaica, who's got great weed from Hawaii. I got that.
[00:22:41] Jake Johnson: He was, oh, how about the guy who was running it with the cool glasses with
[00:22:46] Paul Scheer: Oh, I love that guy.
[00:22:47] Jake Johnson: That guy in a great, you know who that kind of reminded me of, you know, I just, I was playing cards last night and I heard, and I can't believe I heard this for the first time. I'm sure you guys know this, but do you know about Joni Mitchell's, uh, blackface era?
[00:23:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, yeah.
[00:23:01] Jake Johnson: You do?
[00:23:02] Paul Scheer: Whoa. No.
[00:23:03] Jason Mantzoukas: I do.
[00:23:03] Jake Johnson: Jason, can you tell Paul about it? Because I just heard about it yesterday.
[00:23:08] Jason Mantzoukas: I mean, not for nothing.
[00:23:09] Jake Johnson: My mind blown.
[00:23:09] Paul Scheer: Wow. Wow. Jason is wearing a Joni Mitchell shirt as he speak.
[00:23:14] Jake Johnson: I mean, incredible timing.
[00:23:15] Jason Mantzoukas: They have re they have in modern times changed the, um, the jacket, the cover art for Don Juan's Reckless Daughter because it featured, uh, a picture one. So Joni, for a period of time would do a blackface character.
[00:23:32] Jake Johnson: And she would go to parties at it.
[00:23:33] Paul Scheer: I'm looking at it right now.
[00:23:34] Jason Mantzoukas: Exactly.
[00:23:35] Paul Scheer: Oh, Lord.
[00:23:36] Jake Johnson: Oh yeah.
[00:23:36] Paul Scheer: Oh Lord. Oh.
[00:23:39] Jake Johnson: Yes, Paul, this is a real thing.
[00:23:40] Paul Scheer: Whatever you are imagining, you'll be more shocked when you see it. It's, it looks like she's out of a blaxploitation film.
[00:23:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:23:46] Paul Scheer: Like, I mean, this is like a character that might've been in Dolomite the way that, the way that I'm looking at it right here.
[00:23:51] Jake Johnson: Yes.
[00:23:51] Paul Scheer: Wow.
[00:23:52] Jake Johnson: Joni Mitchell, she was doing this at parties in Laurel Canyon, the seventies, and everybody was like, yeah.
[00:23:57] Paul Scheer: It's, wow. I mean, and by the way, and I wanna call out 'cause you said it, like, yeah, she's in blackface, but she's also in drag. Like she's a black.
[00:24:04] Jason Mantzoukas: It's a man, man. It's a, she is a, yeah, it's a man. Yes, you're right.
[00:24:07] Paul Scheer: Oh my Lord. I, now, I will say, just to kind of, uh, lift up my theory that the, the lead actor was trying to get some flirting in. This is a quote that, uh, that the, uh, the nurse ratchet, uh, said Luis Rescher. She said that when she met with the director, Andre Satz, he said, did you read the script?
[00:24:26] And she said, yes, of course. I read the script. And he goes, movie, we make nothing to do with script. Hmm.
[00:24:32] Jake Johnson: So, you hear that from a director and then say, yes?
[00:24:36] Paul Scheer: I love that the director's like, no, no, no, and then we won't use that. So, so that we get the idea that this movie is kind of loose and letting everybody go,
[00:24:45] Jake Johnson: Oh, that's interesting.
[00:24:46] Paul Scheer: You, wherever they wanna go here. But I will say that it causes a lot of weird problems. 'cause at one point when they're having a meeting about the concert, there's a line where a character says, we're gonna have 80 to a hundred thousand people here. And then I was like, okay. Oh, I was sorry. I was like, now I'm saying it out loud. Now it makes sense.
[00:25:05] I was thinking 80, like 80 to a hundred thousand. Now I see it. I was about to, I was like.
[00:25:10] Jake Johnson: You know what? I think we all saw that happen to you in real time, Paul.
[00:25:12] Paul Scheer: Yeah. I was like, I was like.
[00:25:14] Jake Johnson: What's so bad about that?
[00:25:16] Paul Scheer: And then I was like, oh, I, I saw that.
[00:25:17] Jason Mantzoukas: That adds up. Yeah.
[00:25:19] Paul Scheer: In my mind, I was like, how could you have less than a hundred or more than a hundred thousand?
[00:25:23] Jason Mantzoukas: You really don't know how well your tickets are selling if that's where you're at.
[00:25:27] Paul Scheer: Well, and by the way, I think.
[00:25:28] Jake Johnson: We're projecting anywhere between 80 people and a hundred thousand. The staff. Like how many security people do we hire? Like, I honestly dunno. How many drinks do we have at concessions?
[00:25:38] Paul Scheer: I mean, that's what, that's why I thought that they were so confused, like, yeah, we don't have enough security guards for this event. We only thought about 55 people here.
[00:25:45] Jake Johnson: We either have so much security or so little. We hired 1500 people.
[00:25:50] Paul Scheer: I also like that bears like have this, this is a very Jaws four kind of territory. Like Jaws four, he's hunting down the family.
[00:26:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Hang on a second.
[00:26:01] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:26:02] Jason Mantzoukas: Wasn't that also called the revenge?
[00:26:05] Paul Scheer: It was Jason. Jaws four, the Revenge. Yes.
[00:26:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay.
[00:26:08] Paul Scheer: With Michael Kane. Uh, and yeah, so this, this is a bear that is just met and it just seems like the bear is so specific about enacting revenge, but not on the people that created the situation. Like the first kill are just three innocent kids who were not the poachers and then he seems to kill only innocent people. Like there's no, like, I mean, the poachers, I guess finally get it.
[00:26:32] Jake Johnson: I love. Speaking of the poachers. Yeah. They were fun.
[00:26:36] Paul Scheer: I like those poachers.
[00:26:37] Jason Mantzoukas: I wish they, I wish we'd been with them more. The, the part where the guy is talking about how they're gonna split the money when they sell the bear's gallbladder and he's just inexplicably holding a rabbit around the neck in shot like this. He's like, it split a hundred thousand. I'm not good with numbers, but four times four is, is 25 and, but times two is 50 and then there's no, and then suddenly the poachers are, are shooting each other.
[00:27:02] Paul Scheer: Well, by the way that, that, that scene about the, the gallbladder money. What I loved about that was like, they come in like, Hey Luke, your brother's dead. Anyway, we go kill that bear. And then we go get his galbladder. And he, and he is like, they, they just run over that your brother was killed by a bear.
[00:27:17] Jason Mantzoukas: He like, oh. And he's like, my brother's dead. Oh no. And they're like, yeah, man. Get over it.
[00:27:20] Paul Scheer: We got this.
[00:27:21] Jake Johnson: By the way, that's how we should all start treating it though. Let's, let's just start living like we're in grizzly 2.
[00:27:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, we gotta become poachers.
[00:27:30] Jake Johnson: Everybody does. Wasn't there a scene? I'm, I was at that point in the movie. I was getting mad at it, but where they all like start wrestling or dancing or they wake up. What was that moment where I was like, they were just such like clown performers where they were just letting every.
[00:27:45] Paul Scheer: Oh wait, that's where they falling.
[00:27:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Where they're drinking.
[00:27:47] Paul Scheer: Oh, yes.
[00:27:48] Jake Johnson: But they're just letting everybody know that they're trained actors.
[00:27:51] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. And they're like, they're grabbing each other's butts.
[00:27:53] Jake Johnson: Yes.
[00:27:53] Jason Mantzoukas: And dancing around. I was like, what?
[00:27:55] Jake Johnson: Clearly these four men, and you see this a lot with actors where there's four men in their fifties where all of a sudden they were like, man, this takes me back. Now we get to act. And you're like, what is this movement? You're a poacher.
[00:28:07] Paul Scheer: No. Now they, yeah, they're like, they're feeling now.
[00:28:09] Jake Johnson: They were actors.
[00:28:10] Jason Mantzoukas: I do feel like America is currently in its poacher era, like the country definitely feels like we're consumed by poacher.
[00:28:18] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:28:18] Jason Mantzoukas: The poacher mentality.
[00:28:19] Jake Johnson: It's all of a sudden really cool to like murder a lion and stand by it.
[00:28:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:28:24] Jake Johnson: There was an era where we all admitted like, that sucks. And now we're like. That's pretty cool, man. It's a pretty big ass lion you murdered for no reason.
[00:28:31] Jason Mantzoukas: A lot of people getting infected with the poacher mind virus.
[00:28:35] Paul Scheer: But here's the thing, these poachers don't even care that they would be killing a big bear.
[00:28:39] They're like, we just gonna get this gallbladder back to San Francisco. Like, that's it. Like they, they're, they're, they're not even like they, it would a great kill. Yeah.
[00:28:47] Jason Mantzoukas: And I love it too. I always love that the poachers are always after the thing that is reported to be an aphrodisiac.
[00:28:55] Jake Johnson: Yeah.
[00:28:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Like that's it. They.
[00:28:57] Jake Johnson: All they want is money and sex.
[00:28:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. Yeah. All they want is the money and the boners. That's it. That's what what we got.
[00:29:03] Jake Johnson: A thumbs up appeared on Paul's screen. And you said money and boner.
[00:29:07] Paul Scheer: That might have.
[00:29:08] Jake Johnson: But you didn't anything.
[00:29:09] Paul Scheer: I wish, I wish it was not. I, maybe it was me just giving the thumbs up.
[00:29:12] Jake Johnson: No, it was, I literally think you were thinking such a positive thing that your computer heard your thoughts and popped a thumbs up.
[00:29:20] Jason Mantzoukas: You have the, you have the neural link set up, right?
[00:29:23] Jake Johnson: You are the first neural.
[00:29:24] Paul Scheer: It came with my Tesla. It was not a big deal. Uh, I was in and out in the same day. It was great. Uh.
[00:29:30] Jake Johnson: But speaking, speaking of boners.
[00:29:32] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:29:33] Jake Johnson: How about the George Clooney, Laura Dern opening?
[00:29:36] Jason Mantzoukas: Incredible. Incredible.
[00:29:37] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah.
[00:29:38] Jake Johnson: All of a sudden, I was like, he's really sloping kisses on.
[00:29:41] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:29:41] Jake Johnson: And then she does that weird European dance when she takes her clothes off. I was like.
[00:29:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Mm-hmm.
[00:29:46] Jake Johnson: This is a wild, and then Chuck Sheen looking hot is like hiding up in the woods. I was like, what's happening here?
[00:29:52] Paul Scheer: It's like these three people are gonna go camping and with the like implicit knowledge, like, and then when we fuck, you gotta go away from us. Like just go like around the corner.
[00:30:00] Jason Mantzoukas: I also, yeah, I also wanna just highlight for everybody, 'cause I don't know if you all noticed, but they say that they hiked. They hiked 20 miles.
[00:30:08] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:30:08] Jason Mantzoukas: And Laura Dern is wearing a strappy wedge heeled sandal. Yeah. She's wearing a two inch wedge heeled.
[00:30:18] Jake Johnson: And nobody's sweating.
[00:30:19] Jason Mantzoukas: Sandal.
[00:30:19] Paul Scheer: No one sweat. Nobody's sweating. They look great. They look great.
[00:30:22] Jake Johnson: I'll say movies used to do a thing that I thought was gonna be adulthood and it's not. And that is, if you go out with a couple. They're gonna fuck so soon and you're just expected to like run up a hill. That's never happened.
[00:30:35] Jason Mantzoukas: And they're gonna, so here's the thing. They're gonna start while you're there.
[00:30:38] Jake Johnson: Yes.
[00:30:39] Jason Mantzoukas: They're start while you're there and it's up to it's incumbent on you to know, Hey, I gotta make myself scarce.
[00:30:43] Jake Johnson: Guess what? If I don't get outta here, I'm just watching my friends have intercourse.
[00:30:47] Jason Mantzoukas: Like, and then, and then I'm the bad guy?
[00:30:50] Jake Johnson: Yeah. Like, hold on. I'm not a pervert.
[00:30:53] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm the creep?
[00:30:53] Jake Johnson: I'm in my sleeping bag.
[00:30:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:30:55] Jake Johnson: Watching you go. Where else am I gonna look?
[00:30:57] Jason Mantzoukas: You woke me up.
[00:31:00] Jake Johnson: Of course I'm touching myself. You're having sex right near me. I'm not watching you, and masturbating. I was masturbating and I see you.
[00:31:06] Paul Scheer: It was in the middle of their conversation too. It wasn't like, Hey, we were turning out for the night. It was like, Hey, yeah, I saw that movie. That was kind of good. Alright, we're now we're fucking. Wait. It was like they, they start going at it.
[00:31:18] Jason Mantzoukas: There was also the intimation. It also felt like there was the they were intimating that Charlie Sheen was in love with Laura Dern, but that she was with Clooney.
[00:31:26] Jake Johnson: Right.
[00:31:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Like I felt like they were setting that up in the.
[00:31:28] Paul Scheer: So much more here. Yeah.
[00:31:29] Jason Mantzoukas: And I was like, oh.
[00:31:30] Jake Johnson: Or Charlie was just adding a layer for us.
[00:31:32] Jason Mantzoukas: Maybe you're right. But I was trying to be like, okay, oh, so this isn't gonna be a movie about these three and ba baba. And then I was like, oh wait, all three die immediately in the same scene. This is crazy. You know?
[00:31:43] Jake Johnson: That's a bit, yeah, that's a bit though that people have been trying to do. They probably have at this point, but there was a period for like every big action comedy movie. It was, try to get the biggest star you can and have 'em die in the first scene.
[00:31:55] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah.
[00:31:56] Jake Johnson: They actually do it in this, it's the, I'll tell you.
[00:31:58] Jason Mantzoukas: It's, it's The Other Guys.
[00:31:59] Jake Johnson: Yes, that's exactly right. The Other Guys did it.
[00:32:01] But you're like, it's a funny idea. What's disappointing in it is that you're like. I would love to see those three in this movie as opposed to having to watch these other guys.
[00:32:10] Paul Scheer: You've pulled the car, like you've pulled the rug out from under us now because now we have to not be with these people. They were actually engaging.
[00:32:18] Jake Johnson: I wanna see seeing Charlie Sheen and George and Laura Dern with a Grizzly more than I wanna see that weird pervert with the beard hitting on his daughter,
[00:32:24] Paul Scheer: I, I also, here's the other thing, you know, you were upset that Charlie Sheen didn't go do Karate Kid. I kind of think he would've been too cool to be Karate Kid, like Charlie Sheen, great actor, especially in that time. But I don't, I don't know if he's got the, uh, like I don't feel like, you know, uh, William Zapka could be beating up Charlie Sheen. I feel like Charlie Sheen would just like lay him out. 1, 2, 3.
[00:32:42] Jake Johnson: But how about a young Charlie Sheen?
[00:32:45] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:32:47] Jake Johnson: You know, Charlie Sheen post Major League and post
[00:32:48] Paul Scheer: Great movie.
[00:32:49] Jake Johnson: Uh, Platoon.
[00:32:50] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Right.
[00:32:51] Jake Johnson: But we just grew up on that guy. But the other guy was, uh, Emilio's, little goofball brother. Okay. Emilio was the hunk. Charlie was Carlos Esteban.
[00:33:02] Jason Mantzoukas: Which is a statement you never think you're gonna say Emilio was the hunk.
[00:33:06] But by the
[00:33:06] Jake Johnson: way, Emilio at that era.
[00:33:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my God.
[00:33:09] Jake Johnson: He's the guy. Oh, and then his little brother, Carlos, get outta here, dude, you're not even that good of an actor.
[00:33:14] Paul Scheer: I, I love.
[00:33:14] Jake Johnson: I just wanna do what Emilio does. You're not talented.
[00:33:17] Paul Scheer: I, I love when, like, when Andrew McCarthy comes to Emilio's house in that documentary he did about the brat pack, like I, I like Emilio a lot. Like he's just over it. Like not into this guy. And you could see Emilio getting like low key pissed off at him.
[00:33:30] Like, alright man, get the fuck outta my house now.
[00:33:32] Jake Johnson: Oh, I didn't seen that.
[00:33:33] Paul Scheer: Like, oh, this documentary is great. It's basically Andrew McCarthy. Um. Not getting over that. There was one article that called him the Brat Pack, and everyone else is over it. Like to the point where we're like, like, except for him.
[00:33:45] And he's like trying to get people to be like, aren't you upset about this? And they're like, no, no. And like it goes so far to.
[00:33:49] Jake Johnson: A lot of years ago, man.
[00:33:50] Paul Scheer: Like Rob Lowe literally is like, are you kidding me? It's the best fucking time in my life. Amazing. It was great. Like, everyone's like, no, it was fine. It was fine.
[00:33:57] He is like, no, it labeled us. It was bad.
[00:33:59] Jason Mantzoukas: We were wronged.
[00:34:00] Jake Johnson: Yeah, so funny.
[00:34:02] Paul Scheer: Just can't get anyone on his side.
[00:34:03] Jake Johnson: No one in the world cares, but him.
[00:34:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Just holding onto a, a, a grudge or a a, a grievement in a way that is just not even remotely acceptable at this age.
[00:34:13] Jake Johnson: What I will say, even though I agree, he's insane. Imagine being in that group where you guys think you're the next thing.
[00:34:22] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah.
[00:34:22] Jake Johnson: And you're like, we finally done it. You're everybody's young and cool, you're doing good stuff. And you're like, they got the rat pack. Then you got the Jack Nicholson crew. You got the Pacinos of the Deniro. Who are we? And you go the Brat Pack?
[00:34:36] no,
[00:34:36] We're doing good movies.
[00:34:38] Jason Mantzoukas: Didn't they? Wasn't there a, an attempt to label the Vince Vaughn Jack Black Generation as the frat Pack?
[00:34:45] Jake Johnson: Yes, I remember, remember that. After old school vibe.
[00:34:48] Jason Mantzoukas: That's it. That's I think what it was, maybe. Yeah. Okay. And it seems
[00:34:51] Paul Scheer: like, I mean, everything I've read from that time, the Brat Pack, it's like this, this writer had a little bit of an edge. He was like, fuck these people, like, 'cause they're out partying and they're being cool, like, and there's a little bit of a.
[00:35:01] Jake Johnson: It was mean.
[00:35:02] Paul Scheer: It was mean, but it was, uh, but you're right. They were doing good movies or at least movies that.
[00:35:06] Jake Johnson: These movies were awesome.
[00:35:07] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah.
[00:35:08] Jason Mantzoukas: They were great movies. The great actors.
[00:35:09] Jake Johnson: They were all young.
[00:35:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Also. Also, what a way to elevate a dumb article.
[00:35:14] Jake Johnson: Yes.
[00:35:14] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:35:15] Jason Mantzoukas: Which is to become obsessed with it.
[00:35:17] Jake Johnson: Yes.
[00:35:17] Jason Mantzoukas: To become obsessed with one piece of writing.
[00:35:20] Jake Johnson: Imagine like Tim Chalamet, Austin Butler, whoever else are these like, you know, Jeremy Allen White, all these like great group and you're like. The guys, this whole group together, put 'em in a cover and call 'em like the New Geek Squad.
[00:35:33] Yeah. You're like, no. Well, these guys aren't the Geek Squad. And you're like, squad the geek. Geek Squad finally running Hollywood.
[00:35:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Geek Squad,
[00:35:39] Jake Johnson: Austin Butler on a motorcycle being like the geeky James Dean. You're like, uh, just call him James. Straight from Bike Riders. And we just, we could kill him.
[00:35:49] Everyone. And then everybody called him the Geek squad.
[00:35:52] Paul Scheer: It would be, it would, we should get that going now. We should just, we should be like, yeah.
[00:35:58] Jason Mantzoukas: We should encourage people. We should tell everybody that all of those young Hollywood hot actors are the Geek Squad. The Geek Squad.
[00:36:05] Jake Johnson: They refer themselves.
[00:36:06] Paul Scheer: Yeah, the new Superman, uh, movie has got a couple of Geek Squad guys in it.
[00:36:09] Jake Johnson: The lead, the lead guy in the Geek Squad. And then the woman from, uh, Maisels was a, she's a Geek Squad.
[00:36:13] Jason Mantzoukas: She's kind of Geek Squad.
[00:36:14] Jake Johnson: You do it like Colt, you do it like.
[00:36:16] Jason Mantzoukas: I feel like Nick Holt is British Geek Squad.
[00:36:18] Jake Johnson: You know, we could actually do? How yacht music is. Yeah. It's very clear who's yacht music and who's not. We could actually create real rules and rules in the Geek Squad. 'cause I will say the woman from uh, Maisel is not Geek Squad.
[00:36:32] Paul Scheer: No.
[00:36:32] Jake Johnson: But I do think the lead Superman is Geek Squad.
[00:36:35] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Well, geek like, I think, well definitely Nicholas Holt is Geek Squad. According to us.
[00:36:38] Jason Mantzoukas: Nick Holt is, is pretty close to Geek Squad.
[00:36:41] Jake Johnson: Austin Butler is Geek Squad.
[00:36:43] Jason Mantzoukas: A hundred percent. He's Prime Geek Squad.
[00:36:44] Paul Scheer: And I think that this is like, what all we have to do is say it with confidence and then people will start to adopt it. Like it's.
[00:36:49] Jason Mantzoukas: Now here's the question. How, how soon are we gonna get a cease and desist from Best Buy?
[00:36:55] Jake Johnson: We're spelling Squad differently. Yeah.
[00:36:57] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay, good.
[00:36:58] Jake Johnson: Um, who, wait, who is the Mount Rushmore of Geek Squad?
[00:37:01] Paul Scheer: All right. So.
[00:37:02] Jake Johnson: Tim. Tim Chalamet.
[00:37:02] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Tim C.
[00:37:02] Jake Johnson: Austin Butler.
[00:37:04] Paul Scheer: I think Jeremy Allen White.
[00:37:05] Jason Mantzoukas: Jeremy Allen White.
[00:37:06] Jake Johnson: Jeremy Allen White.,
[00:37:07] Paul Scheer: Like, I'm trying to think of who else is, like.
[00:37:08] Jake Johnson: Is there a lady in the Geek Squad? Or is it a very much a.
[00:37:12] Paul Scheer: I mean, Margo Robbies not in there.
[00:37:14] Jason Mantzoukas: Is Tom Holland geek squad?
[00:37:15] Paul Scheer: Oh, Zendaya?
[00:37:16] Jake Johnson: Because he was before them. No, they, no.
[00:37:18] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:37:18] Jason Mantzoukas: Don't think so. Yeah.
[00:37:20] Jake Johnson: They start a little bit younger. They got their own thing.
[00:37:22] Paul Scheer: Oh, Jacob Alorte should be in the Geek Squad.
[00:37:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. Alorte is Geek Squad. Yeah.
[00:37:25] Jake Johnson: Alorte is Geek Squad. Squad.
[00:37:27] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:37:29] Jake Johnson: He's Total Geek Squad. And he's great.
[00:37:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, I'm assuming somebody is gonna Photoshop all of these actors wearing, uh, geek squad polos.
[00:37:38] Paul Scheer: My god.
[00:37:39] Jake Johnson: But those guys as the pillars of Geek Squad is awesome. And guess what.
[00:37:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Anybody who's been rocking a tiny mustache lately. Geek Squad.
[00:37:46] Jake Johnson: Geek Squad.
[00:37:46] Paul Scheer: I love Geek Squad. Geek Squad. And all we need to do is just get a couple like. Send a little article into Deadline. Send a, like a, a, a blind submission into Dumois and be like, just saw some Geek squaders out there.
[00:38:00] Jake Johnson: We can get on Deadline. Just wait squad. S-Q-W-A-D. Sqwad.
[00:38:06] Paul Scheer: Sq. That is, oh, uh, holy funny.
[00:38:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Here's what I'll say, and I know we're having fun.
[00:38:11] Paul Scheer: Is Sydney Sweeney geek Squad? Or is she too early for Geek Squad?
[00:38:14] Jake Johnson: I mean, she actually might be. Oh, you know who else is is Glen Powell.
[00:38:18] Paul Scheer: Glen Powell. But he's a little bit older, right?
[00:38:21] Jason Mantzoukas: He's been, he's been to me. He's, he predates Geek Squad.
[00:38:24] Jake Johnson: Yeah. But he and her in that romantic movie they did. Might have been the Birth of Geek Squad Squad.
[00:38:29] Jason Mantzoukas: That's, that's a Geek Squad. Oh, that's a geek.
[00:38:30] Paul Scheer: Oh, I love that.
[00:38:30] Jason Mantzoukas: That that's Geek Squad romcom for sure.
[00:38:32] Jake Johnson: That's, but that is like the beginning of like, there's a movement here.
[00:38:35] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:38:35] Jake Johnson: These guys made a hundred million dollars doing this movie's. I think this was the birth of Geek Squad.
[00:38:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Here's what I wanna be very clear to say. I want to be in Geek Squad.
[00:38:44] Paul Scheer: We all wanna be in Geek Squad. I don't dunno if can stop trying too old to be in geek Squad, Jason.
[00:38:48] Jake Johnson: Geek Squad right now.
[00:38:49] Jason Mantzoukas: I wanna be in Geek Squad so bad. Well guys, I'll shave a mustache.
[00:38:53] Jake Johnson: We're so old.
[00:38:54] Paul Scheer: Can't be in Geek Squad. Our kids are. Our kids.
[00:38:57] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm I'm Geek Squad dad.
[00:38:58] Jake Johnson: Here's what you could do in Geek Squad. You could play a guy who works at a store when the Geek Squad comes in as a cool scene and you can go like.
[00:39:05] Jason Mantzoukas: And kicks my ass.
[00:39:06] Jake Johnson: Excuse me, you forgot to pay.
[00:39:09] Paul Scheer: Now here's the thing. The reason why their Geek Squad is because they bought a a hangout place. They bought an old Best Buy and that's where they can actually party, be away from.
[00:39:17] Jake Johnson: Oh, like the Blue Brothers guy?
[00:39:19] Paul Scheer: Yes. Yeah. This is own club.
[00:39:21] Jake Johnson: And guess what? Because now New York and LA sucks.
[00:39:24] You know. So they actually got it in like near Omaha.
[00:39:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:39:28] Paul Scheer: It's out in new to be out on the outskirts of New Mexico.
[00:39:31] Jake Johnson: It's like a mid-sized city in America. It's the best.
[00:39:33] Paul Scheer: Alright, so here's, I'm just gonna give you a couple people. Just tell me yes or no, are they Geek Squad? Uh, Margaret Qually Geek Squad?
[00:39:40] Geek Squad.
[00:39:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Gee. Geek Squad.
[00:39:40] Paul Scheer: Yeah. She feels Geek Squad.
[00:39:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Big time.
[00:39:42] Jake Johnson: Actually. She's pretty Geek squad.
[00:39:43] Paul Scheer: Yeah, she's very Geek Squad, I would say. Uh, and then, I mean, and then I would go on the fence with like Hailey Steinfeld. I mean, she's been around for a while.
[00:39:51] Jason Mantzoukas: No. No way.
[00:39:51] Paul Scheer: No, she's okay. All right.
[00:39:52] And then Florence Pugh?
[00:39:54] Jason Mantzoukas: No.
[00:39:54] Jake Johnson: No.
[00:39:55] Paul Scheer: Okay. I, I agree with by the way. I agree with, but I, this is the one that I'm the most.
[00:39:59] Jason Mantzoukas: Who are we? Who are we to judge?
[00:40:02] Jake Johnson: You know who we are? Jason? We're fans of the Geek Squad.
[00:40:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Yes, yes. Yeah.
[00:40:06] Jake Johnson: Just like I'm a fan of the Brat Pack.
[00:40:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Big time.
[00:40:09] Paul Scheer: Jenna Ortega.
[00:40:11] Jason Mantzoukas: Geek Squad.
[00:40:11] Jake Johnson: Geek Squad.
[00:40:11] Paul Scheer: Squad. Squad.
[00:40:12] Jason Mantzoukas: Big time.
[00:40:12] Jake Johnson: Uh, big time is right.
[00:40:14] Paul Scheer: Now. Um, I'm looking, I'm looking through some names here. I, we had Anne, Anna Taylor Joy, but I, I don't know if she's Geek Squad. I don't know.
[00:40:21] Jason Mantzoukas: I don't think she's Geek Squad, no.
[00:40:22] Paul Scheer: I don't feel like she's Geek Squad.
[00:40:23] Jake Johnson: But we gotta make something very clear about Geek Squad. And this is, I think what you were saying, Jason, with the, we wanna be in the movie. This isn't an insult.
[00:40:32] Paul Scheer: No.
[00:40:32] Jason Mantzoukas: No.
[00:40:34] Jake Johnson: These are this movement of people, so to say, the frat pack. Those guys were frat pack.
[00:40:41] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:40:41] Jake Johnson: Vince Vaughn, Jack Black, Owen Wilson. They seemed like the funniest guys in a frat. Will Ferrell.
[00:40:47] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:40:48] Jake Johnson: That you were like, yeah, they probably didn't like that. They're like, we don't know we're serious actors who are comedic actors. But I was like, I know when you guys all get together, it just feels like you're laughing at those funny older guys that you go, I'm not in your frat, but you guys are so funny.
[00:41:02] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:41:03] Jake Johnson: Geek Squad fixes all the technology.
[00:41:05] Paul Scheer: Yeah, this is a good thing. Now there were other ones, the Brit Pack. The Brit pack was Gary Oldman, Tim Roth, Colin Firth, uh, Daniel Day Lewis. Then there was, uh, the Rat Pack Revival. Well, I guess that's this what them older I'm, look, I'm looking at some websites that, oh.
[00:41:19] Jake Johnson: This feels like AI created those too.
[00:41:21] Paul Scheer: Uh, that's the it girl Boom. I don't know if that's a thing.
[00:41:25] Jake Johnson: Deadline tried to create that.
[00:41:26] Paul Scheer: I guess, really, brit Pack, Brit Pack and Fat and Frat Pack is in here. It's uh.
[00:41:31] Jake Johnson: I thought you were gonna say Fat Pack. I was like, that's that's mean-Spirited. They're like, oh man, my movie in Alaska got put in the Fat Pack.
[00:41:38] Paul Scheer: I do like Geek Squad. Geek Squad feels.
[00:41:41] Jake Johnson: Geek Squad's great.
[00:41:42] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:41:42] Jake Johnson: But, and, but I'll tell you what's positive about Geek Squad. 'cause for older people. When you buy technology and you get your first big flat screen mm-hmm. You're putting it on a wall and you go, I don't know how to hang it and get all these different things in there. When the Geek Squad shows up, you think this is the wrong name for what you do.
[00:42:02] Yeah, because it's a hell of a service. You're very good at it. It's very efficient. And you fixed my house.
[00:42:08] Paul Scheer: That's what I see. They're the bridge from the old to new. Because look, you know what? My mom may not be interested in going to the movies every week, but she knows Timothy Chalamet.
[00:42:16] Jake Johnson: Yeah.
[00:42:17] Paul Scheer: He bridges.
[00:42:18] Jake Johnson: You know what also I like about timmy? Uh, Timmy C, when he wins that award, he gets up there and goes, I want to be one of the greats.
[00:42:24] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:42:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:42:24] Jake Johnson: Great.
[00:42:25] Paul Scheer: I wanna be in the original Rat Pack. That's, I got my Geek Squad.
[00:42:28] Jake Johnson: That guy Jacob is hot as hell. He is doing cool movies. Sydney Sweeney's a monster.
[00:42:32] Jason Mantzoukas: He's doing the new Wuthering Heights.
[00:42:33] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:42:33] Jake Johnson: Yeah. You're like, you guys are killing it. This is a group, the Geek Squad is coming in.
[00:42:38] Jason Mantzoukas: This is the next generation. All they lack, all they lack is a moniker.
[00:42:42] Jake Johnson: Yes.
[00:42:42] Paul Scheer: We're speaking about this as if they all listen to the podcast and we're like, we're so mad right now. Yeah. They're so like, here's.
[00:42:48] Jake Johnson: But here's what I'll say.
[00:42:49] Paul Scheer: Oh man.
[00:42:50] Jake Johnson: And here's what the new era, which we all know has changed, and it's way more about technology. So now who are. You know this movie I just did The Dink we were talking about. Yeah. Well, what's the release of it? Apple bought it. Okay, cool. So what does that mean? Who knows? You know what the Geek Squad does? Fixes your technology.
[00:43:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:43:09] Paul Scheer: I love it.
[00:43:09] Jake Johnson: They make technology cool. Where I go, when I hear this stuff as an old timer go like, well, what's the theatrical release? How many theaters? And they go like, they call the Geek Squad.
[00:43:18] Paul Scheer: They're like, hey Jake, your movie is coming out on TikTok in 90 second intervals. It's gonna have a 22 week release.
[00:43:24] Jake Johnson: They never, I'll never do it. You get one guy in the Geek Squad, all of a sudden I'm going, I would love to be in, I would love to be the waiter in the restaurant of your 90 second micro drama.
[00:43:31] Paul Scheer: Can I tell you, Leonardo DiCaprio is in tiktoks now with the young girl from, uh, One Battle After the Other. He's trying to get a little bit of that taste. 'Cause she's trying to get, I mean, uh, she's trying to get in that Geek Squad. I'm sure.
[00:43:44] Jason Mantzoukas: I think this is, I think one of the demarcating lines for the Geek Squad is they are a generation of digital native actors.
[00:43:53] Jake Johnson: Yes.
[00:43:53] Paul Scheer: Ooh.
[00:43:53] Jason Mantzoukas: They are. They have.
[00:43:54] Jake Johnson: And they get it.
[00:43:55] Jason Mantzoukas: They get, they get it and they grew up with it.
[00:43:58] Jake Johnson: But, you know, you gotta also say about the Geek Squad, and this is. You can't get a job at Best bBuy and the Geek squad unless you're one of the best at it.
[00:44:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:44:07] Paul Scheer: Well, let's not, let's not loft the geek squad of that high. I feel like wasn't that?
[00:44:12] Jake Johnson: Well, I'm gonna Paul. Paul, I'm gonna. And I'll tell you.
[00:44:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Paul, they're the greatest actors of our generation.
[00:44:15] Paul Scheer: No, no, they're the greatest actors. I'm saying we're putting a lot of, we're putting a lot of weight on the job interview process for the Geek Squad.
[00:44:21] Jake Johnson: How about this? Imagine if you have a new stereo, you're trying to get it set.
[00:44:24] Paul Scheer: Yeah, yeah, sure, sure.
[00:44:25] Jake Johnson: You pay the 85 bucks. Some guy shows up, he's from the geek squad and he goes, don't know.
[00:44:30] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:44:32] Jake Johnson: What?
[00:44:32] Paul Scheer: They know everything.
[00:44:33] Jake Johnson: You better know, dude. And guess what, I've had him here a lot. They always know.
[00:44:37] Paul Scheer: I like the Geek Squad.
[00:44:38] Jake Johnson: Now, they might have to come back two or three times.
[00:44:40] Paul Scheer: Sure.
[00:44:40] Jake Johnson: But they always.
[00:44:40] Paul Scheer: They don't have all the stuff in their truck.
[00:44:41] Jake Johnson: Always. And, and guess what? They don't charge each time.
[00:44:45] Paul Scheer: No. 'cause they, they, they will come, they will do the act. They, yeah, they get it done.
[00:44:48] Jake Johnson: It's a compliment to be in the Geek Squad.
[00:44:50] Paul Scheer: I like the Geek Squad. Um, now I will say, if you're ever in, if you're ever in the outskirts of New Mexico, stop by.
[00:44:57] Jason Mantzoukas: What a digression.
[00:44:57] Paul Scheer: Yeah, just hang out. You can maybe see 'em walking in and outta that Best Buy. Uh, you see, uh, Chalamet bring in. And they has, they bring their own like chairs in there and stuff. They're cool. Uh, this movie Grizzly 2. Uh, you know.
[00:45:10] Jake Johnson: Who gives her shit? We're talking about Geek Squad.
[00:45:12] Paul Scheer: Geek Squad. Geek Squad to.
[00:45:14] Jake Johnson: I just need to figure out who else is Geek Squad.
[00:45:18] Jason Mantzoukas: Here's my question. Did you guys feel like that the bear in this movie would have better, would've been better if they had cast instead, maybe one of the, uh, bears from Country Bears Jamboree? Maybe Liver lips, McGraw or Teddy Barra, you know, Big Al The Bears from Country Bear Jamboree more emotive.
[00:45:41] Paul Scheer: I I love that you ended on Big Al the most notable big, uh, bear from, uh, country Bear Jamboree.
[00:45:46] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm just going in order.
[00:45:47] Paul Scheer: Oh, okay. I will say this. There's a a, I mean, many famous stories about why Jaws worked, right? The, the shark didn't work. There's a play. The shark's still not working. There's books about how the shark didn't work, and what did Spielberg do.
[00:46:00] He took that and used it to create something that was full of drama and tension. It feels like in movies like this, they're like, yeah, the bear doesn't look real. I'll shoot it anyway. Yeah. Like no one ever has learned from the lesson. It's like, oh yeah. Well, what he did was not shoot the shark.
[00:46:14] Jake Johnson: Yeah.
[00:46:14] Paul Scheer: And made a movie without it until the very end. And then the.
[00:46:17] Jason Mantzoukas: What was cra? Yeah. The crazy thing is the bear clearly could not move. So it was just a matter of putting the bear in the foreground or the background of shots and having the what, whatever. So it'd be like the concert and the bear would be super close to lens and you could see the concert fuzzy in the background, and you're like, oh, oh.
[00:46:35] The, I guess the bear has gotten to the concert again. A hundred thousand people at a concert. One big or 80.
[00:46:42] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:46:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Or 80, 80 people. A big grizzly bear is a threat. At a hundred thousand people.
[00:46:48] Jake Johnson: You're fine.
[00:46:49] Paul Scheer: By the way. They're protected. They're protected because they're in a grouping of, it's not like they're all across the park.
[00:46:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, the, the concert doesn't stop though. Right? The, the concert isn't interrupted by the bear.
[00:46:58] Jake Johnson: You got a, you a band from the future playing. There's a band from 2016 doing 2016 banger. The show's gonna go on.
[00:47:04] Paul Scheer: I mean, first of all, this bear is so big that John Reese Davies, who is a bigger man who was able to jump on it like a telephone pole. Yeah. Uh, and like, and then.
[00:47:12] Jake Johnson: He's also also the strongest man ever.
[00:47:13] Paul Scheer: It's a strong, very strong man. Um.
[00:47:15] Jason Mantzoukas: Bouchard?
[00:47:16] Paul Scheer: Bouchard, getting that human sense.
[00:47:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, Bouchard. He is got the, um, what is it, the, the lasso made of bear something.
[00:47:22] Jake Johnson: But he and Steven Segal, and I don't know who invented this look, but there was a style in the eighties that some bigger, thicker white guys invented, where it was just taking a few cultures, throwing on an accent where, I don't know where it was from. Maybe doing a high pony, maybe having a thin beard. It was just culturally.
[00:47:46] Jason Mantzoukas: So you're just describing Segal.
[00:47:47] Jake Johnson: Yeah.
[00:47:49] Jason Mantzoukas: And maybe the beard is heavily dyed and maybe, maybe he also plays blues guitar.
[00:47:56] Jake Johnson: Maybe he does occasion accent. Maybe he became a sheriff.
[00:48:00] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my God.
[00:48:01] Paul Scheer: Maybe he released an energy drink as well and maybe became friends with Putin.
[00:48:05] Jason Mantzoukas: You know, he has russian citizenship.
[00:48:07] Jake Johnson: Now, one quick question and then I will drop this. 'cause I, I can tell from the tone of you two, it's time to move on.
[00:48:13] Paul Scheer: Oh, it's never.
[00:48:14] Jake Johnson: And I'm sure your audience is ready to do that.
[00:48:17] Paul Scheer: No.
[00:48:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Are we going back to The Geeks Squad?
[00:48:18] Jake Johnson: But I need to finish with Geek Squad, please. And look, I do it on my own podcast all the time. It's over. Everybody's bored of it. But, ugh, if we were to ca recast this movie with Geek Squad and who's playing?
[00:48:29] Paul Scheer: Okay, this is a question.
[00:48:30] Jason Mantzoukas: Love it. Love, love it.
[00:48:31] Jake Johnson: Who's playing, who?
[00:48:33] Paul Scheer: Alright.
[00:48:33] Jake Johnson: Who is now? Now let's not start with Charlie Sheen, those guys.
[00:48:36] Paul Scheer: No, no.
[00:48:36] Jake Johnson: Have the three of them play themselves in this movie as old guys.
[00:48:40] Paul Scheer: Who's Bouchard?
[00:48:41] Jake Johnson: Who is Bouchard? You wanted to star with Bouchard's, the big character.
[00:48:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Alorte. Only because he is big. He's a big, he Alote is like six two or six three.
[00:48:48] Paul Scheer: I was starting with bouchard 'cause it's the only character I know by name.
[00:48:50] Jake Johnson: Okay. How about the main guy with the beard? Who's your true protagonist?
[00:48:55] Paul Scheer: That's Jeremy Allen White.
[00:48:57] Jason Mantzoukas: Gotta be.
[00:48:57] Jake Johnson: You're totally right.
[00:48:58] Paul Scheer: Yeah. That, that feels right.
[00:48:59] Jake Johnson: Who is the blonde woman who cares about conservation?
[00:49:03] Jason Mantzoukas: The bear scientist.
[00:49:04] Jake Johnson: Sydnee Sweeney.
[00:49:04] Jason Mantzoukas: The bear scientist.
[00:49:05] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Sweeney.
[00:49:06] Jason Mantzoukas: That's Sweeney.
[00:49:06] Paul Scheer: Or I could see that also being played with a Jenna Ortega kind of.
[00:49:09] Jake Johnson: I could too.
[00:49:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Sure, sure, sure.
[00:49:11] Jake Johnson: In your dream world, who would you cast?
[00:49:14] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, no, I think what you do is you cast Jenna Ortega as Jeremy Allen White's daughter.
[00:49:20] Paul Scheer: That's the, that's the play and that's, and that's the weirdness of the age.
[00:49:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Because it's the same setup as this one.
[00:49:25] Paul Scheer: Do you go for daddy?
[00:49:26] Jason Mantzoukas: This which, yeah.
[00:49:26] Paul Scheer: Do you go for daddy?
[00:49:27] Jason Mantzoukas: They're essentially the same age.
[00:49:28] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Okay, great. I like this.
[00:49:30] Jake Johnson: And then, then you've got Jacob as Burchard?
[00:49:33] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:49:33] Jason Mantzoukas: I think so. I mean, there aren't any, like, there aren't any big. Uh, uh, geek Squad.
[00:49:39] Jake Johnson: Well, because you gotta get behind the TV at times.
[00:49:42] Paul Scheer: Yeah, I know.
[00:49:42] Jason Mantzoukas: We need, we need like a bi, a big, who's the big bird?
[00:49:45] Jake Johnson: You need the guy to bring in this stuff.
[00:49:47] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:49:47] Jake Johnson: The delivery guy in Geek Squad.
[00:49:49] Paul Scheer: I, I'm also thinking like, who is, who's our deliverance crew? Like, these are our actor actors. Again. I may, I may pull Alortie into the deliverance crew, like Holt. Alorte. Like, it's, it's these, uh, you know, these guys are going a little bit maybe, I'm trying to think of another one in that world that could be going real deep in there.
[00:50:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. In the poachers.
[00:50:07] Jake Johnson: Tennessee can get deep in the poacher. Oh yeah.
[00:50:09] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah. He would be great. There you go. That's a good poacher crew. Hmm.
[00:50:15] Jake Johnson: All right. I feel pretty good about it. I mean, pretty good. I'm happy with it.
[00:50:18] Paul Scheer: Good. I like it. And you know, and maybe what I do is.
[00:50:20] Jason Mantzoukas: I could also see Sydney Sweeney as a lady poacher.
[00:50:22] Jake Johnson: Same. I was about to say, and I didn't wanna say it, I think there would be a female poacher now and there would be no comments about the fact that there was a female poacher.
[00:50:30] Paul Scheer: Well, Jake, I was gonna say this. I wanna move off my original casting and pitch you both. You know, I don't know if you are familiar, but Sydnee Sweeney, uh, is now in this boxing just Bulked Up in this boxing movie. I'm like, maybe she's Bouchard.
[00:50:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Whoa.
[00:50:43] Jake Johnson: I actually.
[00:50:44] Jason Mantzoukas: I love it.
[00:50:44] Jake Johnson: I don't like it. I don't like it. Now I hear why it's a good pitch.
[00:50:49] Paul Scheer: Right? Okay.
[00:50:50] Jake Johnson: But I feel like it's gonna be a big thing that Hollywood's gonna like, we're gonna be excited about it, and no one in the world's gonna like it.
[00:50:57] Paul Scheer: They're gonna wanna see, they don't wanna see her like jumping on a bear.
[00:51:00] Jake Johnson: No. They're gonna go, you get Sydnee sweaty, one of the greatest looking actresses of the game. You got her in a black weird wig and a beard and she's heavy.
[00:51:09] Paul Scheer: Wait, wait, she's gonna Joni Mitchell it? She's gonna play the man.
[00:51:15] Jake Johnson: Hey Bouchard doesn't change. You gotta wear the same clothes.
[00:51:19] Paul Scheer: Oh wow. I was reimagining Bouchard.
[00:51:22] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay, that's different.
[00:51:23] Paul Scheer: Okay. All right. All right, now, now we're on the same page.
[00:51:26] Jake Johnson: No reimagine. I want to see Jake in those clothes.
[00:51:28] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Alright. Then back full, back to the original casting.
[00:51:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Full stolen valor, full cultural appropriation.
[00:51:34] Jake Johnson: And he's the only character I want it word perfect. Everybody else you could rethink his stuff.
[00:51:38] Paul Scheer: Accent perfect too. It's gotta hit that. Um, I will say this, I if I was also casting, I don't know if she's fully in Geek Squad, but I don't know if remember, but there is a French maid waitress that is serving people in the, uh, during the concert there's like.
[00:51:51] Jake Johnson: No.
[00:51:51] Paul Scheer: Right. Oh, there's a, a moment where they cut away to like a server, like just delivering drinks on the table where like the, uh, the summit captain is like, and she's just dressed like from like a murder mystery. Like, like that kind of maid's outfit. Outfit.
[00:52:05] Jake Johnson: Totally.
[00:52:05] Paul Scheer: And I was like, that could be Sabrina Carpenter. I think she could do a fun part in there.
[00:52:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah.
[00:52:09] Paul Scheer: You know, that's Sabrina.
[00:52:09] Jason Mantzoukas: She's Geek squad. I think Sabrina Carpenter's Geek Squad.
[00:52:12] Paul Scheer: Well, she's a musician. I don't know if we put musicians in.
[00:52:14] Jake Johnson: Yeah, I don't know. I wouldn't look, I wouldn't put her or Olivia Rodrigo.
[00:52:17] Jason Mantzoukas: I mean, I'm speaking generationally. They seem like they are Geek Squad adjacent.
[00:52:21] Jake Johnson: They might be adjacent, but I'm not putting those pop stars.
[00:52:24] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm fine with it. I I, I'm not gonna, I'm, I'm not gonna.
[00:52:27] Jake Johnson: I hear exactly what you're saying.
[00:52:29] Paul Scheer: No, I mean, it's, it's right, but it's also wrong. But here's the thing.
[00:52:32] Jason Mantzoukas: To be clear, Taylor Swift not, not, you know.
[00:52:34] Paul Scheer: No, but. Hangs with Geek Squad, but is above Geek Squad. I think that's, or.
[00:52:37] Jake Johnson: Respect. Look, is Jennifer Lawrence like the godmother of Geek Squad?
[00:52:41] Paul Scheer: That's what I was thinking. Well, that's what I like. I feel like that's like a little.
[00:52:43] Jake Johnson: Not Geek Squad, but without, if you don't, there's no Geek Squad without Jennifer Lawrence.
[00:52:47] Paul Scheer: I, I agree.
[00:52:48] Jason Mantzoukas: Interesting.
[00:52:48] Paul Scheer: I agree. Like, you want that, like you, and you want those people like, you know, Tom Cruise famously not in the Brat Pack.
[00:52:54] Jake Johnson: But with, if there's no Tommy Cruise, there's no Brat Pack.
[00:52:57] Paul Scheer: Exactly. So, so then.
[00:52:58] Jake Johnson: If there's no Jennifer Lawrence, you would never have Geek Squad. But yeah, when she broke on the scene, you're like, she's a great actress. She's great looking. She also could, she kind of could be in Geek Squad though, too. I think.
[00:53:08] Paul Scheer: She's the original Geek Squad before there was enough Geek Squad to fill it in. Like that's why she's a's.
[00:53:12] Jason Mantzoukas: I don't think she's Geek Squad.
[00:53:14] Jake Johnson: You don't?
[00:53:14] Jason Mantzoukas: I think, I think she paved the way for Geek Squad to exist.
[00:53:19] Jake Johnson: Yeah, she walked, so Geek Squad could run.
[00:53:21] Paul Scheer: There you, there we go. I like that.
[00:53:22] Jake Johnson: She is a little bit different because she's also connected to the older generation. So she's a little bit old school.
[00:53:27] Jason Mantzoukas: I would put her more in the Hailey Steinfeld.
[00:53:30] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:53:30] Jake Johnson: I totally agree.
[00:53:31] Paul Scheer: They're in another, they're in another group.
[00:53:32] Jake Johnson: But also Hailey's Hailey walked so they could run.
[00:53:35] Paul Scheer: And, well, where, where's Zendaya?
[00:53:37] Jason Mantzoukas: Sha Woodley as well.
[00:53:39] Jake Johnson: And Tom Holland are in whatever that group is. They just don't have a title.
[00:53:42] Paul Scheer: Okay, got it.
[00:53:43] Jake Johnson: Have their their own thing.
[00:53:44] Paul Scheer: They have their own thing going on.
[00:53:46] Jake Johnson: But Geek Squad definitely. I gotta say, we might be wrong on Jeremy White.
[00:53:50] Paul Scheer: You know, I actually think that too. I was gonna.
[00:53:52] Jake Johnson: Well he's not Geek Squad.
[00:53:53] Jason Mantzoukas: He's not?
[00:53:54] Paul Scheer: Too old for Geek. Right.
[00:53:55] Jake Johnson: And also look at him from Shameless.
[00:53:57] Jason Mantzoukas: Cause Of Shameless?
[00:53:58] Jake Johnson: Yes.
[00:53:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay, okay. Okay.
[00:53:59] Jake Johnson: Now, if there was no.
[00:54:00] Jason Mantzoukas: But he certainly seems to be culturally Geek Squad.
[00:54:03] Jake Johnson: You know who he is. If he was a beatnik, he's William Burrows.
[00:54:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Ah, okay.
[00:54:08] Jake Johnson: He's not in them. He's older, but you're like, they all love him.
[00:54:12] Jason Mantzoukas: But they don't revere him. I don't think they look up to him the way that the beats looked up to Burrows.
[00:54:17] Jake Johnson: I think they do. Deep down.
[00:54:18] Jason Mantzoukas: Really?
[00:54:19] Jake Johnson: I think they all wanna be in The Bear.
[00:54:20] Paul Scheer: I, I think, I think you wanna have, you want you want somebody.
[00:54:23] Jake Johnson: They all wanna be Bruce Springsteen.
[00:54:25] Paul Scheer: You. Yeah, I Paul Mescal. Geek Squad.
[00:54:27] Jake Johnson: Geek squad.
[00:54:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Geek Squad, yes.
[00:54:29] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Right.
[00:54:29] Jason Mantzoukas: The British. The British Geek Squad.
[00:54:31] Jake Johnson: I think he takes, uh, Jeremy Allen White.
[00:54:34] Paul Scheer: Yes. Jeremy.
[00:54:34] Jake Johnson: I think Jeremy.
[00:54:34] Paul Scheer: Hundred percent.
[00:54:35] Jake Johnson: Jeremy. I don't think that's right. I think he's. I think he's just a little bit different.
[00:54:40] Jason Mantzoukas: I don't, I I agree. Uh.
[00:54:41] Jake Johnson: He also rips cigarettes publicly.
[00:54:43] Paul Scheer: Yeah. He's, I think he's just a little, I think the Geeks squad has to have a little bit of youth on them too. It's a very fine line.
[00:54:50] Jason Mantzoukas: What's interesting as well is almost everybody we've talked about are feature film actors, and Jeremy Allen White is primarily a TV actor.
[00:55:00] Jake Johnson: Yeah.
[00:55:00] Jason Mantzoukas: Does that change it?
[00:55:02] Jake Johnson: Yes.
[00:55:02] Paul Scheer: Well, we'll see at this award season.
[00:55:03] Jake Johnson: By the way. Yeah. But, but no, Jeremy, Allen White's gonna do whatever he wants now.
[00:55:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, I mean, he's incredibly talented, don't get me wrong.
[00:55:09] Jake Johnson: But you're right. Uh, but I do think the reason that Jeremy is a different animal is he's a veteran. And I know I don't count when you're a kid actor and you transition.
[00:55:17] Paul Scheer: Like Adam Driver.
[00:55:18] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:55:19] Jake Johnson: Yes. But, but Adam, but Adam Driver's for sure not Geek Squad.
[00:55:22] Jason Mantzoukas: Not Geek Squad.
[00:55:22] Paul Scheer: No, no, no, no way.
[00:55:23] Jake Johnson: But he's just one of those vet, you're like, at a certain point, you are without a group. These guys eventually will, one of them will make a documentary where they'll go like, can you believe those guys on that podcast called us The Geek Sqwad? And the other ones will go, I never heard it.
[00:55:37] Paul Scheer: They wreck, they wrecked our career.
[00:55:39] Jason Mantzoukas: What's a podcast?
[00:55:39] Paul Scheer: They wrecked our career.
[00:55:40] Jason Mantzoukas: What's a podcast? Podcast?
[00:55:42] Jake Johnson: You mean those geezers in their closets?
[00:55:49] Paul Scheer: Uh, we are definitely making a Geek Sqwad shirt for this episode. I feel like we should lift them all. Like your favorite players from a basketball team or something. By the way, geek Squad does still exist. I am looking here.
[00:55:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, it does. I was gonna ask.
[00:55:59] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Uh, you can chat with a Geek Squad agent at any time. You give 'em a call, but again, we're not spelled the same way. We're not, our Geek Sqwad is not spelled the same way. Wow. We really went, I mean.
[00:56:10] Jason Mantzoukas: We did it.
[00:56:10] Paul Scheer: We did it.
[00:56:10] Jason Mantzoukas: I don't even think, I don't even know we have anything more to say about the movie.
[00:56:13] Paul Scheer: That's what I, I, I kind of feel like we've, we've done it all.
[00:56:16] We've said it all. And I'll tell you this, uh, Jake, I love your show. You are fantastic on this podcast. You're fantastic and everything, but I'm just wanna talk about this podcast. Because, uh, We're Here to Help. It is like Monday, Wednesdays, occasionally, some Fridays. You got great rotating people coming in.
[00:56:32] Uh, but you and Gareth are great. You are funny. There. I, Jason, have you ever done it? No, Jason.
[00:56:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Never done it. I, I've never been invited, Jason.
[00:56:41] Paul Scheer: Wow.
[00:56:41] Jake Johnson: You are publicly invited. I would love you on it.
[00:56:44] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm, I'm so furious.
[00:56:44] Paul Scheer: June and I have both done it.
[00:56:46] Jake Johnson: I'm gonna court you from here on out.
[00:56:47] Paul Scheer: Yes. But not for Geek Squad. Uh, June and I have done it and it's what I think it's so fun.
[00:56:53] Is it, uh, by the way, if you like this episode where we are devolving into Geek Squad, I think you're gonna love, uh, We're Here to Help because it it is, it is a show that is prone to, uh, fun tangents. You get to go off and.
[00:57:05] Jake Johnson: I gotta tell you, our base audience gets very upset with me. I'm the one they are liking the least these days.
[00:57:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my God. Just because you chase down in the tangents?
[00:57:13] Jake Johnson: What's funny about a base audience, which I love our group, and it's what I didn't realize this about podcasts, that like you just form your group and every once in a while you get some new people. But there's the main group. The main group has so many opinions.
[00:57:26] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah.
[00:57:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
[00:57:28] Jake Johnson: So mad.
[00:57:29] Paul Scheer: Oh, our audience is gonna be very upset.
[00:57:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Just, just wait. Yes, this episode.
[00:57:33] Paul Scheer: This is not gonna go over well.
[00:57:34] Jason Mantzoukas: It's gonna gonna be infuriating to them.
[00:57:36] Paul Scheer: That we had this great, that this movie that we have now spent, and by the way, it wouldn't change a beat.
[00:57:40] Jason Mantzoukas: I can't believe I watched that whole movie and they didn't talk about it for more than 10 minutes.
[00:57:44] Jake Johnson: They'll get, they get, so the audience gets.
[00:57:47] Jason Mantzoukas: They're obviously just jealous of younger actors. Geek Sqwad bullshit.
[00:57:52] Jake Johnson: I wish Nick Miller would stop talking so much.
[00:57:56] Jason Mantzoukas: And that guy who kind of looks like him.
[00:57:58] Jake Johnson: Oh, they're so mean. So funny.
[00:58:01] Paul Scheer: I will tell you this much.
[00:58:02] Jake Johnson: It's so funny.
[00:58:03] Paul Scheer: There is, um, there, this is some facts that are, I think are interesting about it. You talk about the, the bears being, uh, bad. They went to David Prowse who played Darth Vader to be the bear.
[00:58:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh wow.
[00:58:13] Paul Scheer: And he interviewed and uh, then they said, you know what? We don't need that guy. We'll just hire a very tall mime. Um, and they hired a mime.
[00:58:22] Jake Johnson: Is that true?
[00:58:23] Paul Scheer: Yep. Uh, they went with a Hungarian mime and uh.
[00:58:27] Jason Mantzoukas: I did feel like when they did, were able to trap the bear in the invisible box that did. It was that, that was satisfying.
[00:58:34] Paul Scheer: By the way, that's the best ending moment of any movie. A bear running through a concert.
[00:58:38] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my God.
[00:58:39] Paul Scheer: Getting caught in it and. I guess electrocuted, electrocuted, electrocuted.
[00:58:44] Jason Mantzoukas: Question mark.
[00:58:44] Jake Johnson: Oh, and then what was that final line from Nurse Ratchet where she said, like
[00:58:48] Movie Audio: Is that part of the show?
[00:58:53] Yes. Yes it is.
[00:58:55] Jake Johnson: That's a weird ending.
[00:58:57] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, very weird. No, we don't, we don't catch up with any of the main characters again.
[00:59:02] Jake Johnson: No resolution.
[00:59:03] Jason Mantzoukas: We end on tertiary characters, not real joke lines.
[00:59:08] Paul Scheer: And why does she even wanna get back? Like, so she's now running a public park and she wants to get back to DC but it would seem like she was disgraced in some way. She's like, the congressman will be here.
[00:59:17] Jason Mantzoukas: And the way she's trying to impress them is to invite them to her rock concert in the park.
[00:59:22] Jake Johnson: Doesn't make any sense.
[00:59:24] Paul Scheer: And then I also love the way they speak about the rock concert. Like, this is how you've set it up. It's like, yeah, it's a one night only event. We will be building until the show starts, and then we'll be taking it down.
[00:59:33] It's not like you, you built the house and we're having an, it's like, yeah, that's that're building a stage for a one night. Yeah. This is it. We don't, you didn't build Woodstock a year before Woodstock happened. They'd be like, no. It's like barely.
[00:59:44] Jake Johnson: All the stages are still up. You never take 'em down.
[00:59:48] Paul Scheer: And, and then this, there's so many ideas here that were just not executed in any way as far as like didn't, a simple plot. Yeah. They didn't finish.
[00:59:54] Jason Mantzoukas: I couldn't tell you what the story was for most of these characters. They just seemed to be scenes stitched together in it. It could be like in any order almost.
[01:00:04] Jake Johnson: To talk to your audience for a second.
[01:00:06] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[01:00:06] Jake Johnson: Who is upset about this episode and the tangent we went on. Is this not the perfect type of episode for Grizzly 2?
[01:00:14] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[01:00:15] Jake Johnson: A Stitch Together movie that.
[01:00:17] Jason Mantzoukas: I love it.
[01:00:18] Jake Johnson: That no through line, that all of a sudden you're in a movie from 83, then you're in a karaoke video and a guy from, and I go.
[01:00:26] Paul Scheer: 2016.
[01:00:26] Jake Johnson: What am I literally watching?
[01:00:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[01:00:29] Jake Johnson: And then it just goes to the left. Then there's a scene between a dad and a daughter that's sexual. And I go, what? And she's like, I'm gonna make you proud. Then you're, I'm like, what Galaxy? So of course we went to Geek Squad because Grizzly 2 made us go there.
[01:00:44] Paul Scheer: You can't control where we go. Grizzly 2 inspired Geek Squad. That's, this is part of the legacy. That's the long lasting legacy. Well, uh, that's the time that we have to spend with Grizzly 2 and, and you know, if there was any doubt in your mind, we're not gonna do second opinions today, only because who really has an earnest five star review, but, you know.
[01:01:03] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[01:01:03] Paul Scheer: And, and I don't think there are many, but I will tell you that there is one that we found, actually, Molly found it. Um, our investigation has led us to believe that this is from the, uh, the special effects designer. So I'll read it to you. Uh, the movie is given five outta five stars, and, uh, and the title is called Crew Perspective.
[01:01:23] "I read the comments that there were problems with the animatronic 14 foot bear. That might be what the texts were told in the us, but there was no such item. The 14 foot version was a puppet that was intended to be used on the full size stage and all those shots were completed before leaving Hungary.
[01:01:42] The half size animatronic version was complete and working prior to leaving Hungary ii, and we shot tests of it at that time. I had an agreement with Joe Proctor to direct half size effects and elements. Other than that, there was a man in a suit version that was complete. We were finished and ready to shoot in coordination with the storyboard that I also supervised with Tony Beasley. The money dried up and the crew's personal equipment was seized by the government who told us that they were held against non-payment of production bills. We never got our stuff outta there."
[01:02:15] That's why guys we're gonna make the movie that the Geek Sqwad will star in, where they go in and get the camera equipment, they go back to Hungary.
[01:02:24] Jason Mantzoukas: It makes us feel like how many other reels of unseen film are there on the shelves in random countries?
[01:02:32] Paul Scheer: Miami Connection is a.
[01:02:34] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[01:02:34] Paul Scheer: Found in a storage locker, right? There are these movies that people find and, uh, look, that's, that's what we did. We did this. We did it. Jake, thank you.
[01:02:43] Jason Mantzoukas: We did it.
[01:02:43] Jake Johnson: Really fun.
[01:02:43] Paul Scheer: Thank you for being with us. Uh, I love the Geek Sqwad uh and.
[01:02:47] Jake Johnson: I'm gonna think about the Geek Squad a lot.
[01:02:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. We're gonna, I'm assuming we're gonna start a text, uh, thread about the geek Squad. Squad immediately.
[01:02:55] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[01:02:55] Jake Johnson: Look, I know it's, it shouldn't catch on, but it's really good.
[01:03:00] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[01:03:01] Paul Scheer: I really, I really like the Geek Squad and if we can just subtly get it out there, like I, this is what I've seen kind of pop up.
[01:03:09] I know it's a little inside baseball, but I've heard a lot of executives use the term meta and they've call and, and, uh, they go, well, Barbie's meta. And then I've heard like Naked Guns, meta, and I, and I think that they don't wanna call it a comedy, so they call it meta. Right. So I think that these things can take on like Barbie's, not meta, it's, no, it's, you know, it's, but I think that like, all we need to do is say it to a couple people and make them feel uncomfortable about like, we don't wanna explain it.
[01:03:31] Jake Johnson: The three of us have the kinda reach in meetings.
[01:03:34] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[01:03:34] Jake Johnson: Where all we need to say maybe here's the goal.
[01:03:37] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[01:03:38] Jake Johnson: We never say that this is where it started. We've just heard it where you go like, oh, Wuthering Heights looks great. Then you go like, well, I mean, you got one of the kings of the Geek squad in it.
[01:03:47] So you know it's gonna, yeah. You know, not only is it gonna work financially. But you know it's gonna be good quality. And they go, uh, one of the members, and you go, oh, the squad. No, you just call 'em the squad.
[01:03:56] Paul Scheer: The Squad, that's it., It needs to come back to us. That's when we know that we have won.
[01:04:00] Jake Johnson: S-Q-W-A-D. They're the Sqwad.
[01:04:02] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. We, when we hear it from someone else, we, I also think we should say it as if we, obviously we, we didn't come up with this, but like, oh, what are, what do they call them? Uh, the Geek Squad?
[01:04:12] Jake Johnson: Yeah. You know, we could do, here's what we could do, guys. We gotta call 'em the G squad.
[01:04:19] Paul Scheer: Oh, I like that. Hide it a little bit more because, and then we like, where did that even geeks squad come from?
[01:04:23] Jake Johnson: It like what you just said, Jason sounded insane.
[01:04:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, yeah, I know. Well, you know, that's what you've been saying for about one hour?
[01:04:30] Jake Johnson: I, because we also look alike. We hearing you say it and looking like, I realize we're crazy.
[01:04:35] Jason Mantzoukas: That's what it's gonna sound like. That's what.
[01:04:37] Jake Johnson: That's bad.
[01:04:38] It's bad.
[01:04:38] Jason Mantzoukas: Ha.
[01:04:39] Yes. It's not good. We can't be a bunch of 50 year olds being like calling the young Honks and, and Hotties the Geek Squad.
[01:04:46] Jake Johnson: This is a bad idea. Abort. Abort.
[01:04:47] Jason Mantzoukas: I just got a text from Jake that says, edit all the Geek Squad stuff out.
[01:04:51] Jake Johnson: I thought it was a compliment. Abort. It sounds
[01:04:53] terrible coming from us.
[01:04:54] Paul Scheer: I'm gonna say it like this. I'm gonna be, oh man, you see, uh, One Battle after Another. I loved it. I mean, Alana Ham though, trying to get in that G squad, I mean.
[01:05:04] Jake Johnson: By the way. That's right.
[01:05:06] Paul Scheer: She's great in it.
[01:05:06] Jake Johnson: Then what do you mean?
[01:05:07] Just the younger generation kids are taking over.
[01:05:10] You know, I thought I honestly, I love everything Paul Thomas Anderson does. It was nice seeing Leo. You throw a guy from the G squad in that movie though. I think it's gonna be way.
[01:05:20] Paul Scheer: That's, that's boxing. I mean, look, and I think, but the problem is like, I think Paul Thomas Anderson got so caught up in trying to make somebody from the g squad with like Chase Infinity, who's great, but she's not, she's not, she's not full.
[01:05:32] Jake Johnson: Yeah, guess what? G Squad sounds like gangster squad and that's cool.
[01:05:36] Jason Mantzoukas: Or, or it sounds like God squad. Yeah. You know, I'm just saying. Holy cow.
[01:05:40] Paul Scheer: Oh man. Oh man.
[01:05:41] Jason Mantzoukas: I loved it.
[01:05:42] Paul Scheer: Trembley really loved that G Squad action.
[01:05:44] Jason Mantzoukas: What a wild trip this episode was from the movie to the conversation.
[01:05:47] Paul Scheer: Everything.
[01:05:48] Jason Mantzoukas: Just an absolute surprise. One surprise after another.
[01:05:50] Paul Scheer: Oh my gosh. All right. Uh.
[01:05:51] Jason Mantzoukas: Loved it.
[01:05:52] Paul Scheer: We'll have, if you have your suggestions for the G squad, hit us up, uh, next week on Last Looks, Jason and I will evaluate and get through it all.
[01:06:00] Jason Mantzoukas: My God.
[01:06:01] Jake Johnson: G squad's cool. The way you just put that.
[01:06:03] Paul Scheer: Yeah. This is good. I like the G squad. And by the way, alana Ham is the perfect person to, because she's great, but as she's not g Sqwad.
[01:06:11] Jake Johnson: But she's not, she's not g Squad. Squad.
[01:06:14] Paul Scheer: Yeah. No.
[01:06:14] Jake Johnson: But because guess what, Paul Thomas Anderson is not a director for the G Squad.
[01:06:18] Paul Scheer: No.
[01:06:19] Jason Mantzoukas: Not at all.
[01:06:19] Paul Scheer: No.
[01:06:20] Jake Johnson: So if you're in with him, you're cool, but you ain't G squad.
[01:06:23] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[01:06:24] Paul Scheer: This is good. I'm, I'm, I'm feeling good about, I'm feeling good about where we're headed with this G squad.
[01:06:29] Jake Johnson: Yeah. And if you're a musician, you're a pop star, you're not G Squad.
[01:06:33] Paul Scheer: And if you are somebody who like writes for Vulture or The Ringer, like, feel free to like, say like, oh yeah, everyone's been talking like, let's, we need to, everyone needs to figure out on your SubStacks, whatever.
[01:06:44] Jason Mantzoukas: Vulture would be the perfect place for it.
[01:06:46] Paul Scheer: If Vulture just drop G Squad.
[01:06:48] Jake Johnson: Or somebody on TikTok.
[01:06:49] Jason Mantzoukas: But here's what I want. I just, I want them to do it. And I would like, I would like to encourage them to do it without referencing us.
[01:06:57] Paul Scheer: I agree. Never. No. Yeah. You can't.
[01:06:59] Jason Mantzoukas: As if it's their own thing.
[01:07:01] Jake Johnson: 'Cause if they reference us a, it's gonna seem like a joke.
[01:07:04] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[01:07:04] Jake Johnson: But if it's just the G squad.
[01:07:06] Paul Scheer: It's gotta be said, it's gotta be said very casually. Again, it's, it's, it's said to make people feel like they didn't know. It's like, it's not about we're introducing the G Sqwad.
[01:07:16] Jake Johnson: It's hot rock.
[01:07:16] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[01:07:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Whenever you're doing press, Jake, for the next movie, you've gotta be like, you know, we went we chased a couple of those G Squad kids couldn't get 'em.
[01:07:25] Jake Johnson: Harris is a little bit older. I'm thinking. Really no, there's no G Squad. Then I did a movie with Dakota fanning.
[01:07:31] Paul Scheer: She's not G squad, no. Um, a couple years earlier. She might have been late, a couple years later, she might have been.
[01:07:37] Jason Mantzoukas: But there's, I don't even think El Fanning is G Sqwad.
[01:07:40] Jake Johnson: Don't either. I actually don't think I've ever worked with G Squad.
[01:07:43] Paul Scheer: I've worked with G Sqwad. Well, I did a movie with Joey King and she was dating Jacob Alorte at the time, so I guess I was hanging out with G Squad. Right.
[01:07:52] Jake Johnson: But Joey king is not geek squad. She's Geek Squad adjacent.
[01:07:55] Paul Scheer: But yes, so I was, but i, yes. So I didn't, I guess I've never done a, yeah, I guess I've not, Hmm. Yeah, you're right. All right. Okay. Wow. Gotta take that in. I mean, yeah, I was Anthony Ramos?
[01:08:07] Jake Johnson: Paul, Paul.
[01:08:07] Paul Scheer: Anthony Ramos?
[01:08:08] Jake Johnson: Paul. Hey, hey. Slow down babe. We're getting older. This happens.
[01:08:11] Paul Scheer: You're right.
[01:08:11] Jason Mantzoukas: G Sqwad comes And then when they come, you gotta kick some old shit off the boat. We're the old shit on the boat.
[01:08:18] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah.
[01:08:18] Jake Johnson: We gotta be old barrels.
[01:08:20] Jason Mantzoukas: We're, we're the guess what, guess who we are. The Wilfred brimley of that for them.
[01:08:24] Jake Johnson: Agreed.
[01:08:25] Paul Scheer: Oh wow.
[01:08:25] Jake Johnson: Remember Cocoon.
[01:08:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[01:08:26] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[01:08:26] Jake Johnson: Those guys are younger than us.
[01:08:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Younger. Younger.
[01:08:28] Paul Scheer: Danny Glover was 42 in Lethal Weapon to be too old for this shit. Yes. 42.
[01:08:33] Jason Mantzoukas: 47.
[01:08:33] Paul Scheer: Crazy.
[01:08:33] Jake Johnson: [Unintelligible]
[01:08:34] have headphones when they do zooms. They do it differently somehow. It's squad. Yeah.
[01:08:38] Jason Mantzoukas: They know.
[01:08:39] Jake Johnson: We have this techno, you can see our wires, you geeks. Look at us all. You see.
[01:08:43] Paul Scheer: Man. They're all automated. They're all like fucking, they're like Air pod.
[01:08:47] Jake Johnson: They're like, what are you doing? You could see the mic and we're like, it's better sound quality.
[01:08:52] Paul Scheer: Oh.
[01:08:52] Jake Johnson: And they're like, you need G squad.
[01:08:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my god. This is so funny.
[01:08:56] Paul Scheer: This is the best.
[01:08:57] Jason Mantzoukas: Holy shit.
[01:08:57] Paul Scheer: Wow. Wow. We did it. I don't know what we did, but we did it. And if you're a first time listener, uh, this is a little, uh, different than what we normally do. So, uh, I encourage you to check out another episode if you'd like, uh, and make sure that if you are listening to episodes, you are, you know, following us on, you know, Spotify and Apple Podcast.
[01:09:17] Uh, we will be back next week on last looks to talk more about Grizzly 2. We can even actually talk about the movie or we could just keep on talking about G Sqwad. your choice. Uh, I really am interested what June would think about the G Squad, but you know what? Maybe you can ask us about the G squad on the road.
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