The discord fan-picked movie poll results are finally revealed! But first, Jason & Paul chat about Wonder Man and other TV shows they're currently loving, Paul answers all your corrections & omissions on Date with an Angel, and we play a bonus deleted scene from the Date with an Angel live show. PAUL & JASON'S RECS: Wonder Man Sarah Squirm: Live + in the Flesh The Fall and Rise of Reggie Dinkins 30 Rock Girls5Eva Astro City by Kurt Busiek
The discord fan-picked movie poll results are finally revealed! But first, Jason & Paul chat about Wonder Man and other TV shows they're currently loving, Paul answers all your corrections & omissions on Date with an Angel, and we play a bonus deleted scene from the Date with an Angel live show.
PAUL & JASON'S RECS:
Sarah Squirm: Live + in the Flesh
The Fall and Rise of Reggie Dinkins
[00:00:00] Paul Scheer: Is a tumor our new Jacob's Ladder? What do Burgess Meredith's boobs look like? And the controversial discord vote that tried to trick us, but wound up messing you all up. That's right. All this and more on today's How Did This Get Made Last Looks! Hit the theme.
[00:00:21] Music: [Intro Song]
[00:00:22] Paul Scheer: Smoochie. Smoochie. No, I am not an angel obsessed with kissing. It's me, your host, Paul Scheer, and welcome to How Did This Get Made Last Looks where you, the listener, get to voice your issue on Date with an Angel. A movie that Discord user, Ghost Bag thinks should have had the tagline,
[00:00:39] "Date with an angel. Eet ees a tumor."
[00:00:44] I love it. I love a little, uh, Kindergarten Cop, Date with an Angel mashup. That's the kind of quality work here that we all need to be doing. So thank you, Ghost Bag for that. And yes, you did just remind me that this is a movie, uh, that asks the age old question. Does the main character have a brain tumor?
[00:01:05] Maybe that's our new Jacob's Ladder in this show. Um, a big shout out to Go Van Goghs for that opening theme song. Remember, if you have an alt movie tagline or title, submit it to us on our discord at discord.gg/HDTGM. And if you have a Last Looks theme song, go to HDTGM.com and click on the submit a song button on our homepage.
[00:01:25] Remember, keep 'em short. 15 to 20 seconds is best coming up on today's episode. We'll be hearing all your Corrections and Omissions on Date with an Angel, and I'll even share an exclusive deleted scene from our Date with an Angel episode. Then Jason will join me to chat about all the TV shows that we are currently loving, especially Wonder Man.
[00:01:44] And as always, I will announce the movie for next week's episode, which also happens to be the winner of our recent Discord fan poll. That's right. You voted. We watched, we were upset. And uh, and I'll tell you. There was a lot of drama around this voting process. We're gonna get into it on the main episode, but I'm also gonna break it down here as well.
[00:02:09] Um, Dinosaur Improv will be at Largo on February 28th. It's a Saturday. Come out. Nicole Byer, Edi Patterson, Danielle Schneider, Rob Huebel, myself. It is going to be a great big show. I wanna say thank you to everybody who is still getting autograph books, uh, hardcovers and paperbacks of Joyful Recollections of Trauma.
[00:02:29] You can always just go right to my website and order the books right there. And you help support a local bookstore, Chivaliers which is the oldest bookstore in Los Angeles. I don't get any money from it. I just do it because I love, uh, Chivaliers. They are the absolute best. And if you've not watched yet, my Taylor Swift mini doc is available right on my homepage, I made a little mini doc about Taylor Swift.
[00:02:51] Yeah, look at that. I make stuff. Anyway, uh, enough with the plugs. Uh, let's get into it. Last week we talked at length about Date with an angel. We had questions and we might have even missed a few things. Here is your chance to set us straight. Fact check us if you will. It is now time for corrections and omissions.
[00:03:24] Music: [Corrections and Omissions Song]
[00:03:37] Paul Scheer: Thank you John Falding for that theme song. I love that. Alright, so there's a lot to get into for a movie that we did so long ago that I barely remember. So I'm glad that this first Discord comment is about a very specific scene, so specific that I needed to pull a video reference to even have a take on it.
[00:04:00] Alright, so the chat writes,
[00:04:01] "Can we talk about Tad's attempt at mouth to mouth resuscitation? This dude awkwardly leans in for the usual movie trope of a kiss, like mouth to mouth, but then pulls up, turns his head completely away from her, and gives a huge exhale towards nothing. He then repeats this. Now isn't the whole point of mouth to mouth to exhale into the other person's lungs forcing their chest to rise and their lungs to expand? I mean, what is going on here? I mean, I think that's the only thing I could put together. Like he thought that he was like kind of helping take extra air out? Look, it was, it was the eighties. We didn't know from CPR right way, wrong way. He was doing it his way."
[00:04:48] Um, maybe for the simplest explanation for Tad's, mouth to mouth fail, we can go back to the Discord where Arch Midi's Returns to Oz wrote,
[00:04:57] "Blame the Tumor."
[00:04:59] You know what? Yeah. Whenever we don't understand anything in this movie, we are going to blame the tumor. Mitch Kappa Chunk Style writes
[00:05:07] "A bit of justice for Tad. You guys thought it was crazy how he, you know, the morning after his bachelor party, he smelled his finger to check, did something inappropriate happen with that blowup doll the night before? But, mitch Kappa wants to point out it wasn't about the doll. No, the pool water had rushed in all over the floor and he was just smelling his wet hand to check what is this liquid?"
[00:05:30] Hey. Huh. I don't know if that gives us full justice for Tad, there. I, I, I feel like. It's still, I mean, I guess, I guess what if it was pee?
[00:05:43] He was still sniffing his hand to figure out what was on it. It could have been from anything. I don't think it was, if he knew it was the pool water, he wouldn't have sniffed his finger. He would've said, oh, it's pool water. Right? Come on, Mitch. Let's go to the phones. Olan from London. What do you got?
[00:05:56] Listener: Hi Paul, this is Olan. I just listened to the date with an Angel episode and you make a joke about a song called Angel in Flip Flops. Just wanted to let you know in case you didn't already, that Angel in Flip Flops is actually a fake song written by, um, one of the characters in Only Murders in the Building. Um, it's the song that they use to justify why he gets so many random royalties and can still live in the fancy building in New York.
[00:06:24] So, yeah, that is, uh, Steve Martin's character song, Angel in Flip Flops From Only Murders from the Building, which you can find on YouTube.
[00:06:31] Paul Scheer: Well, first of all. You don't have to lecture me about Only Murders in the Building. I love Only Murders in the Building. So much so that I am going to correct you on this fact.
[00:06:41] The reason why Steve Martin is rich in that show is because of Brazos and then the subsequent like reboot of Brazos. But I was gonna say the song that you were talking about, Angel in Flip Flops, yes. That was on the show as well, but that show was never a hit. It was like, I believe a song that only came out in Germany and then the Berlin Wall
[00:07:00] fell and then that like prevented him from becoming like a big music star. I believe that was the premise of that joke. Uh, wow. Why do I know all of this? Uh, but they did actually release that song. I, now, I Googled this, to accompany the show and there's a music video so you can watch the entire animated Angel in Flip Flops.
[00:07:24] But, uh, I believe now as I'm looking at it even more here, it only reached 83 on the charts, so did not make a lot of money from that. So I am gonna see your fact and throw it back in your face. Luke, what do you got?
[00:07:38] Listener: Hello Paul slash Jason. This is Luke. Uh, just listen to the Date with an Angel live show. And I'm not sure if this is the kind of thing that came up during the show.
[00:07:47] It was just tough for time, but you guys are talking about how similar this is to Splash and the fact that it's about, you know, this kind of other worldly creature who doesn't understand our world and attractive and suddenly appears here and, uh, basically falls in love with the first person they see, uh, just because they're the first person they see.
[00:08:06] Uh, they don't really realize they could do or they could get somebody better. Um, I just kind of wanted to let the audience know that there is a name for this trope. It is called Born Sexy Yesterday. And in addition to Splash some other prominent examples are Fifth Element, um, How Did This Get Made classic A VeryNutty Christmas, Hot Frosty, basically any Christmas movie where the, uh, Christmas decoration come to life and then start dating somebody.
[00:08:32] So. Anyways, just wanted to, uh, put that out there for you and your listeners, uh, so we can articulate why these movies are bad or if they are into them, I guess. Look it up and find more of them. Anyways. Talk to you later. Kisses..
[00:08:47] Paul Scheer: I, uh, love this term. I have been obsessed with this, uh, born sexy yesterday idea. Yeah.
[00:08:55] It's basically, yeah, robots, mermaids, uh, like, what was it, Tron and you, you mentioned all the ones. Right. It basically makes mansplaining. Okay. I think that's the whole reason behind, uh, behind. Behind this, right? It's like men can then talk to pretty women and feel, uh, incredibly superior to them and not be, uh, in awe of their beauty.
[00:09:18] Like, they're like, oh, well you may be beautiful, but you're a fucking idiot. You need me. Uh, yeah. It's, it's, uh, it's a great, it's a great trope. Um, thank you, Luke, for, for making sure that we now have the name for it. Uh, Galen from la What do you got?
[00:09:33] Listener: Hey Paul. This is Galen from Los Angeles. Uh, little uh, detail on, um, our beloved love bug.
[00:09:40] Uh, the actor Tony Retanno whose only other major credit film credit was, um, Angels in the Outfield, seven years later where he played the singing umpire. So that's an acting career, um, uh, uh, defined by playing, singing characters in PG rated angel movies, uh, angel comedies. Uh, that is, uh, that's, uh, quite a legacy if you ask me.
[00:10:09] Alright, thanks so much. Bye.
[00:10:10] Paul Scheer: Ooh, I like that Galen. There we go. That's great. A little fun fact for you, Angel in the Outfield. Love that movie. Was that the one? No. Angels in Outfield Christopher Lloyd one, right where you play? Yes. Okay. I do love that movie. Uh, alright. Now we had one last call from Jack in Wisconsin, but the call kept on cutting out.
[00:10:28] So, uh, we just kind of, kind of paraphrase it. I'm sorry, Jack, uh, call when you have a better connection. Uh, Jack says, roughly in this episode, you and June told the story about being disappointed when the personal sushi chef who cooked for you ended up being white. Did this story inspire the episode of The League where Timothy Olifant played a white sushi chef who acts Japanese?
[00:10:50] Um, as a matter of fact, no. I believe that that was something that was inspired by one of the creators of the show. We definitely spoke about that, but that, I'm not taking any credit for that whatsoever. I believe that was something that happened to, uh, Jeff, or Jackie. We also had that experience in Hawaii one time.
[00:11:10] And um, I gotta tell you, you know, I don't wanna, I don't want to be racist. I don't want to be a guy. I, I like a Japanese sushi chef, but we, we met a guy in Hawaii. He was, uh, serving sushi. And I gotta say the sushi was delicious. I judged a book by its cover. I actually think in a weird way, the white chefs work harder because they know that they have an uphill battle of being a white chef next to a, uh, a bunch of Japanese, uh, men and women.
[00:11:43] Anyway, uh, back to the Discord. I hope I don't get in trouble for that opinion. I'm just having fun with y'all. You know, times are weird. You never know what's gonna get taken outta context. Anyway. Uh, back to the Discord, Sparkle Oo writes,
[00:11:56] "Was anyone else struck by the parallels to Passion Play the Meghan Fox Mickey Rourke movie covered on the pod last year?"
[00:12:03] You don't gotta remind us about, uh, Passion Play. We, we love Passion Play. I would say Passion Play. Yes, you're right, is another, uh, born sexy yesterday movie.
[00:12:11] "Uh, in both movies, a man discovers, uh, an angel who cannot fly, and neither movie is at all interested in the theological or scientific implications of angel's existing. The man must protect her from forces that want to exploit her looks for commercial gain. The angel regains the ability to fly just in time to thwart armed pursuers and at the end it's revealed that the man was either dead or dying during the events of the film."
[00:12:36] Wow. Uh, are you telling me there's a lawsuit brewing? Should we have a lawsuit brewing? Between the writer of Passion Play and and Date with an Angel. You know what I say? Bring it. I say let's get an old ass lawsuit out. Sue it now. Don't be like the guy who sued Top Gun like a year after the movie came out. I say sue this movie, uh, way after. I mean, I guess it would be the Date with an Angel people suing Passion Play and uh, it feels like
[00:13:08] the money wouldn't be great on either side of it, but let's get an old lawsuit out so we can break down why these angel movies are so similar. Meanwhile, Angels in the Outfield, they really did, uh, jump into the theological ramifications of, uh, what Angels and baseball, uh, what that meant. Um, anyway, we'll close out things with not a correction or omission, but with a personal story from DKN Phil.
[00:13:34] "Paul's experience of being shown Clash of the Titans as a kid in school resonated with me so hard. I think in sixth grade, a substitute teacher played it for my class too, and I remember the nude scene vividly because it was so shocking to see breasts in my middle school classroom. I wasn't paying attention to the movie except for that scene, but I naturally wanted to know whose real life boobs I saw. So I paid careful attention to the credits. However, I couldn't remember the character's name, so I just looked for the names of female actresses. I have no idea why, but for some reason I thought that Burgess Meredith was a woman. And I remember walking out of class thinking to myself, wow, I saw Burgess Meredith's boobs."
[00:14:13] Uh, holy cow. You know, normally we just give a correction and omission to someone who brings up a great fact. But I gotta say, anyone who can go toe to toe with me with a Paul Scheer story is gonna be the winner today. Yeah. Seeing Burgess Meredith boobs is the winner. And you know what? You don't get anything but you do get this amazing song from Bears in Love. Hit it.
[00:14:39] Music: [Winner's Song]
[00:14:39] Paul Scheer: I love that song, by the way, Bears in Love. Woo. That's good. If you wanna chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode, hit up our discord or call us at 619 P-A-U-L-A-S-K. Alright, coming up after the break, Jason will stop by to chat about all the TV shows that we are watching and loving.
[00:15:01] We got some great recs for you. But first, take a listen to this bonus deleted scene from our Date with an Angel show where June makes fun of me for scanning a QR code wrong at a restaurant the night before the show. I. I remember this embarrassment. Take a listen.
[00:15:17] (live) I gave you a review of the ordering process?
[00:15:21] June Diane Raphael: I'll say Paul, we did go to a restaurant last night and there was, there was a little placard, you know, there's no menus anymore, right?
[00:15:28] Paul Scheer: She's gonna burn me now.
[00:15:29] June Diane Raphael: No menus anymore. Which was really pissing me off and so we had to pull up the QR code. Right. And Paul, you did say to the waitress, I'm just on the review page.
[00:15:41] Paul Scheer: Well, because. All right.
[00:15:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Meaning that's what it, the QR code sent?
[00:15:47] Paul Scheer: What it was, right. It was a, it was like, like, you know, like one of those things that you put on a table in a bar where it's like the bar specials are on it, right? So it's a small little thing on the table. And there was, it said menu and barcode, barcode. One on top, one on bottom. So I scan the barcode. She's like, no, no, no. You scanned the review barcode. That's the menu barcode. I'm like, motherfucker, why have two barcodes on top of each other?
[00:16:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Honestly, honestly, shame on that restaurant.
[00:16:13] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:16:13] Jason Mantzoukas: How dare you give me a way to review before I've even gotten to the meal.
[00:16:19] Paul Scheer: It's like.
[00:16:19] Jason Mantzoukas: Fuck you. Also, also.
[00:16:20] June Diane Raphael: This reviewer felt.
[00:16:22] Jason Mantzoukas: How often are you asked to review the restaurant in ever in general?
[00:16:26] Paul Scheer: And I'm like, and, and I, I'm like, I'm, I'm just trying to order. I'm like, which one? My phone is catching one of them. I'm not like, oh, hold on. You know, it's like, just keep it separate.
[00:16:34] Jason Mantzoukas: Meanwhile, they are now fully in your data. That restaurant has complete access to everything you're up to.
[00:16:41] Paul Scheer: They had spent all my, they took over my Visa card. Weird.
[00:16:44] Jason Mantzoukas: God damn it.
[00:16:50] Paul Scheer: All right, we are back. And remember, every week we are pulling old episodes out of the back catalog. Yes. Out from behind, not even a paywall, we just don't even have a paywall. We should. Right? That's what most people do. Uh, they try to monetize, uh, things. We, we, we don't really do that. Anyway. Uh, these matinee episodes have been a blast to listen to.
[00:17:11] Last week we focused on Double Dragon, uh, keep on checking out all of the replays of our classic episodes every Tuesday and without any further ado, it is now time to welcome Jason to Last Looks for a little Just Chat. Tom McWaters, what you got?
[00:17:25] Music: [Just Chat Song]
[00:17:26] Paul Scheer: Jason. Great to talk to you. And finally, we get to celebrate Date with an Angel, a movie that we recorded so many years ago. I mean, this is.
[00:17:34] Jason Mantzoukas: A real, this is a time capsule.
[00:17:36] Paul Scheer: It really is.
[00:17:37] Jason Mantzoukas: This episode is a time capsule. Like this is time travel from an like, oh boy. Remember when we were innocent? Remember, remember two years ago when we were in Minnesota?
[00:17:46] Paul Scheer: Well, you know what's so interesting is like we record these episodes and I feel like we've done them, and then certain, uh, fans keep track of what has not been released for a while. This Swordfish episode was an episode that was not released. I'm like, what happened? What's the drama behind it? And we, we try very hard not to release episodes that you can't have access to watching.
[00:18:06] Jason Mantzoukas: We, oh, we don't want you to have to like pay money if you don't have to like to rent a movie or that isn't available even to do that.
[00:18:14] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:18:14] Jason Mantzoukas: You know?
[00:18:14] Paul Scheer: That was the thing. Like this movie was just not available. So a lot of the times we are just constantly scanning these services to make sure that, from when we did it to when we release it, like somehow this fell in a little bit of a gap. I think it was gonna come off whatever service it was on. I know that I've talked to the director a handful of times and he is doing a DVD release of it.
[00:18:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh wow.
[00:18:33] Paul Scheer: A lovely guy. Uh, so.
[00:18:35] Jason Mantzoukas: That's a huge reveal.
[00:18:37] Paul Scheer: Yes. Uh, he has written me a handful of times we've talked about some stuff and he wanted to have some, uh, kind of collaboration, which by the way, I can say that unofficially or maybe officially I can say that we are doing a fun collaboration with Rad, the BMX movie.
[00:18:52] Jason Mantzoukas: Love it.
[00:18:52] Paul Scheer: Uh, we have a, a really fun thing coming up with them. We'll talk about that more when that is gonna be, uh, released and by whom.
[00:18:58] Jason Mantzoukas: But suffice it to say we will be racing BMX bikes.
[00:19:03] Paul Scheer: That's all you need to know. And Jason and I have been training.
[00:19:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Training.
[00:19:06] Paul Scheer: Getting those wheels up, up, up.
[00:19:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah. Paul. Paul does the pedaling and I'm standing behind him on the pegs.
[00:19:13] Paul Scheer: It looks good. It looks pretty good.
[00:19:14] Jason Mantzoukas: It looks great. It looks great.
[00:19:15] Paul Scheer: You know, last time we talked, we got to only speak about a few things that we like, and I feel like everybody's been asking, and I've been wanting to talk to you about this, but. Wonderman.
[00:19:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Let's go.
[00:19:26] Paul Scheer: Wonder Man's the new Marvel show.
[00:19:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Now, full disclosure.
[00:19:30] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:19:30] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm only halfway through the season.
[00:19:32] Paul Scheer: Great. I don't think we should reveal that much. I will tell you this.
[00:19:34] Jason Mantzoukas: Great. I don't either.
[00:19:35] Paul Scheer: That, uh, during the pandemic, my friend, Andrew Guest, who is the showrunner of that.
[00:19:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah.
[00:19:40] Paul Scheer: Who he was brought on to Hawkeye and he kind of got in the Marvel world and.
[00:19:44] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, cool.
[00:19:45] Paul Scheer: And, uh, and I really loved the Hawkeye series and how, what they did with Hawkeye, he got tasked with bringing this show to life and he showed me early cuts. I got to see, I had to sign so many NDAs. It was amazing. And I got to read the scripts and when I saw it, I've been talking this show up for such a long time, just quietly to people because it is unlike anything in the Marvel world.
[00:20:06] It feels like an FX show, kinda like what.
[00:20:08] Jason Mantzoukas: It does.
[00:20:08] Paul Scheer: Legion was in the sense that it's completely in its own thing. Now, yes, there are characters that come in, like Ben Kingsley is great, but it's like a lethal, it's like it has a Lethal Weapon kind of vibe to it in the sense it's buddy cop thing.
[00:20:19] Jason Mantzoukas: And I'll say, and I'm saying this to the audience, like if you are not keeping up with Marvel.
[00:20:25] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:20:25] Jason Mantzoukas: It doesn't matter. No, it doesn't matter at all. You don't need to know about multiverses, you don't need to know about Loki's stuff. You don't need to. This is a slice of life for this one character. Uh, Simon, uh, who is.
[00:20:41] Paul Scheer: Simon. Not Simon West, but yeah.
[00:20:42] Jason Mantzoukas: That's what I almost said too. Yeah, but that's the guy who made Con Air.
[00:20:45] Paul Scheer: Yes. But his name is Simon and he is a good guy. Uh, yeah.
[00:20:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Um, it's so good. And it's
[00:20:52] Paul Scheer: Simon Williams.
[00:20:53] Jason Mantzoukas: Simon Williams. Thank you. And it's, what's his name? Yahi Abdul Mattin. Yes. From our beloved Ambulance. I believe he was in the Michael Bay movie.
[00:21:01] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:21:01] Jason Mantzoukas: He was Ambulance.
[00:21:01] Paul Scheer: Yes. Yes.
[00:21:02] Jason Mantzoukas: And he is, what I love about this is he's a struggling actor in LA and the, the show is really about the kind of constant ego death of a struggling actor in LA who secretly has superpowers that you really do not really get access to. It's not a swaggery kind of, you know, uh, it is a, it's a character study.
[00:21:28] Paul Scheer: Well, here's what I'll say. I, I have not started again. I, because I've watched and I read a bunch and I, I have to go back in and see, I know things were reordered, but have you gotten to see the day that he goes on set when he has got a big part in a TV show yet?
[00:21:41] Jason Mantzoukas: American Horror Story?
[00:21:42] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:21:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:21:43] Paul Scheer: Okay.
[00:21:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Incredible.
[00:21:44] Paul Scheer: That is truly one of the. I, I
[00:21:47] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh.
[00:21:48] Paul Scheer: It.
[00:21:48] Jason Mantzoukas: It is so uncomfortable.
[00:21:50] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:21:50] Jason Mantzoukas: And, and so truthful.
[00:21:51] Paul Scheer: And hilarious and, oh.
[00:21:53] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:21:54] Paul Scheer: It, it gets me. It's so beautifully done. It's so fucking beautifully done.
[00:21:58] Jason Mantzoukas: It's so, he's such a phenomenal actor at portraying. Again, this is someone who has like omega level powers.
[00:22:06] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:22:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Who is so cripplingly insecure as an actor. And that, that is just, he cannot get out of his own way. He does an incredible job portraying this character. And Ben Kingsley is along for the side, uh, along for the ride, like you're saying, as his buddy. And then they just are, go in some scenes, they're just going back and forth trading verses from famous plays like Ben Kingsley's just allowed to do a two minute monologue from Shakespeare. It's, the show is fucking great.
[00:22:36] Paul Scheer: Oh, I, I've loved it. We get, we have some fun friends on the show too. Carl Tart pops up on the show.
[00:22:41] Jason Mantzoukas: Carl Tart Show. Carl Tart is in an episode That's like a bottle episode, not a bottle episode. That's like a, yeah, it's like one off episode that explains the history of another character from the past. And that episode.
[00:22:53] Paul Scheer: So good.
[00:22:54] Jason Mantzoukas: So good. So good.
[00:22:55] Paul Scheer: He's so good.
[00:22:56] Jason Mantzoukas: It's, it's great.
[00:22:57] Paul Scheer: And that's also the episode with Josh Gad doing.
[00:23:00] Jason Mantzoukas: So funny.
[00:23:00] Paul Scheer: I mean, Josh, like Josh Gad really, like I give him a lot of credit for basically just jumping in as himself and really going for it.
[00:23:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Joey Pants too. Josh Gadd.
[00:23:11] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:23:11] Jason Mantzoukas: And Joey Pants are both in this show playing themselves.
[00:23:15] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:23:15] Jason Mantzoukas: The actors Joe Pantoliono and Josh Gadd and Josh Gads version of himself in this show is just. Such an unrepentant douche. It's great.
[00:23:24] Paul Scheer: It is, it is so fun to watch. It's this great acting. It's great writing. It's funny. Uh, and it's, uh, to me it's just like one of those things where I, I think a lot of the complaints about it have been, why didn't they advertise this show?
[00:23:39] Like, you know, 'cause it's sort of like.
[00:23:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, is that right?
[00:23:41] Paul Scheer: It kind of, yeah. It just kind of came out and I think it honestly. It's a big swing and I, and the way I kind of describe it to people is like, this is the, Andor for the Marvel universe, it's sort of like it's, we're in a world.
[00:23:54] Jason Mantzoukas: You're right. Yeah.
[00:23:54] Paul Scheer: Not tonally, but like it's a creator going, we're just gonna live in our world doing our own thing that doesn't really affect anything else.
[00:24:02] Jason Mantzoukas: It's what's, yes, you're right. And what's interesting is you are right. It's a big swing, but conversely it's a big swing because it's a small story.
[00:24:10] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:24:11] Jason Mantzoukas: You know, and that's what's a big swing about it, is that this is small stakes. Story here it is about did he get the audition like right?
[00:24:19] Most episodes are about whether he gets a callback or not, or about being embarrassed to tell his family that he got fired from a job. Like all of these family dynamics, all it feels very small. It feels a little bit like a character study that you are interested in, and every once in a while you're reminded Oh, right. He has like powers. Oh, okay.
[00:24:41] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:24:41] Jason Mantzoukas: But it's not, the powers are not what the show is about. And now going forward, that might change, but.
[00:24:48] Paul Scheer: It's, it's also, it's not cool to have powers. Like that's the part of it is like like, and I think that that's the fun part of the show is like, it, it's a different perspective. It's kind of like what Astro City was to me back in the day, which is.
[00:25:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, absolutely.
[00:25:01] Paul Scheer: And I don't understand why we.
[00:25:03] Jason Mantzoukas: Beautiful Kurt Busick book.
[00:25:04] Paul Scheer: I have no idea why no one has done Astro City like that to me feels like a no brainer.
[00:25:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Boy. It's so big. It's such, yeah. So many elements of.
[00:25:11] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:25:12] Jason Mantzoukas: You could do elements of Astro City, you know?
[00:25:14] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:25:14] Jason Mantzoukas: 'Cause Astro City Astro, I mean, if people haven't read the Kurt Busick book, Astro City, there's many, many, many volumes of it. But there's compendiums that collect a lot of them, and they really seek to show not just stories of superheroes and the city and everything like that. But it's really about the people inside of the city that is full of these heroes and how does.
[00:25:35] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:25:36] Jason Mantzoukas: It's beautiful, beautiful storytelling that.
[00:25:38] Paul Scheer: And Alex Ross does some of the, the covers of it that are just.
[00:25:41] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, yeah, just the art. Art is gorgeous. It's, it's, it's incredible. It, very long running book. Beautifully told. It's a. It's one that is, I can't recommend enough. Astro City.
[00:25:52] Paul Scheer: Yeah, really, uh, a highlight of that one. I, I love it so much, but man. Oh man. Uh, Wonderman.
[00:25:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Wonderman. Great.
[00:25:59] Paul Scheer: If you are hesitating in any way, just let that go to the side.
[00:26:03] Jason Mantzoukas: Give it a chance.
[00:26:03] Paul Scheer: Because the, honestly, the opening scene will suck you in. You're like, oh, I'm in.
[00:26:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Ooh. And if this matters, it's a half hour.
[00:26:10] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:26:10] Jason Mantzoukas: It's not no makes, it's not an hour long show. It's eight half hours. It's great. It's a very compelling human story.
[00:26:18] Paul Scheer: I mean, look at this point, what do you, what do you have? What do you have to lose? What do you have to lose?
[00:26:22] You know what we have been watching here at the, the home front? Uh. 30 Rock and I have not, I have not sat through 30 Rock for years.
[00:26:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:26:33] Paul Scheer: And man, oh man, what a fun rewatch. I know. This is like the dumbest thing to say like 30 Rock is funny.
[00:26:41] Jason Mantzoukas: No, no it is. 'Cause I also have rewatched it within the last year or two. So joke dense. It is so strong that show. So many jokes. So, so funny. What I love about that show and I think is such a way to talk about great shows, is once they finally settle into what it is, then it's just a mix and match.
[00:27:03] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:27:03] Jason Mantzoukas: So then it's like, what if this storyline is, put these three together who normally aren't together, and these two are over here doing this. And those different pairings and different matchups are endlessly recyclably funny.
[00:27:15] Paul Scheer: Well, and, and you know what I think is so interesting? This is a story that I always heard when they were talking about The Office.
[00:27:20] Like Greg Daniels had this board, and on the, on the board he had, uh, like all the characters lined up. On, on both sides, the left and right hand side, and this drew lines. All right, well it's Dwight and this guy. It's, you know, it's, and it's like, what are those stories? And when you had 24 episodes in the season, you could just go off and be like.
[00:27:40] Jason Mantzoukas: You could just mix it up, mix it up, mix it up, you know.
[00:27:42] Paul Scheer: And it's so fun and endlessly, like you said. They never get old. It's like, oh, great, another Tracy Jack McBrayer episode. Great. I can't wait.
[00:27:49] Jason Mantzoukas: And there's no, there's, I mean, so little serialized storytelling. You can drop in and out of it wherever you want. You don't have to follow it all. You know, it's, if we still existed in a time where syndication was a thing, this show would be massive. You know what I mean? In that, in that same way.
[00:28:06] Paul Scheer: Just like get so bummed, because the one thing that I feel like we love is more episodes like we want.
[00:28:13] Jason Mantzoukas: I agree.
[00:28:13] Paul Scheer: It just, it's a bummer because we're getting eight then you're waiting a year. Yeah. And it's like, you know, uh, yeah. It just, it's like there's too much time between.
[00:28:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Especially for those kind of shows like 30 Rock, where really all I wanna do is hang out with these people more. I'm not interested in more story.
[00:28:30] Paul Scheer: No.
[00:28:30] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm not interested in more mystery or more mystery box, or I just wanna hang out with these characters that I like more, because that's the kind of show 30 Rock is you're just, you're walking around the, uh, literally 30 Rock bumping into all these absurd storylines.
[00:28:45] Perfect. I want, I want that forever. You know?
[00:28:48] Paul Scheer: And I finally was able to put some sav on the, the Brooklyn nine, nine itch of my youngest son.
[00:28:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, good.
[00:28:55] Paul Scheer: I should say the wound. He's not been able to commit to another show, and I've been trying and trying, and then we hit 30 Rock. He's like, I like it. I was like, great.
[00:29:02] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh good.
[00:29:02] Paul Scheer: So we are.
[00:29:03] Jason Mantzoukas: Here's what I'll say, if you get there. I will reiterate my absolute fandom for Girls Five Ever, which is.
[00:29:11] Paul Scheer: Oh, right.
[00:29:12] Jason Mantzoukas: Almost all of the creative team, um, is so, so funny. And then now the new show, Rise and Fall of Reggie Dinkins. Reggie Dinkin think is what it is.
[00:29:20] Paul Scheer: Reg. Yes.
[00:29:20] Jason Mantzoukas: Um, is. The only one episode is up now it's on Peacock and it's hilarious.
[00:29:26] Paul Scheer: It's really.
[00:29:26] Jason Mantzoukas: The first episode is so funny, and it's a lot of the same people that are behind. It's a Robert Carlock. It's a, it's a, a lot of the same people that are behind 30 Rock.
[00:29:35] Paul Scheer: And you got Daniel Radcliffe is like a documentarian, uh, who is making a show on, uh, on Tracy Morgan and, and Bobby Moynihan's in it. And it's, it starts, uh.
[00:29:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Bobby is so funny in it.
[00:29:46] Paul Scheer: So good. It's, it starts, uh, in February, but you can watch the first episode now and it's, uh, it's a really, it's, it's great. It's really good.
[00:29:53] Jason Mantzoukas: It's great. It's very worth the watch.
[00:29:55] Paul Scheer: Our good friend Phil Jackson from Dinosaur.
[00:29:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Writer on it.
[00:29:59] Paul Scheer: Writer, yeah. Writer on it. So it's a good, yeah, it's a good one. And again. It's, it's great to have solid comedies.
[00:30:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Oh, I have a solid comedy. Yeah. Can I recommend a?
[00:30:09] Paul Scheer: Please.
[00:30:09] Jason Mantzoukas: A comedy special that I absolutely was crying at? Yeah. Which is Sarah Sherman's special.
[00:30:15] Paul Scheer: Oh my.
[00:30:15] Jason Mantzoukas: Live and in the Flesh.
[00:30:16] Paul Scheer: I was just about to write this.
[00:30:18] Jason Mantzoukas: Incredible.
[00:30:19] Paul Scheer: I watched this on Sunday. It blew me away. I was like, I, I, I want, like, no one was in the room with me when I was watching. I was like, I was looking to other people like, are you seeing this?
[00:30:28] Jason Mantzoukas: I was crying, laughing, truly crying tears of joy, laughing. It's just such a funny special.
[00:30:35] Paul Scheer: She is. And you know, look, I read that article in, uh, New York Magazine.
[00:30:40] You know, she like.
[00:30:41] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, I didn't.
[00:30:41] Paul Scheer: She, okay. There's a great article in New York Magazine.
[00:30:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, I'll look for it. Good.
[00:30:44] Paul Scheer: And then there's this like a very nice. We're a little moment where she talks about the pretty girl wig that she's always forced to be in these pretty girl wigs on SNL.
[00:30:52] Jason Mantzoukas: Mm-hmm.
[00:30:53] Paul Scheer: And, and it's so funny because I, I know Sarah, I see her, I watch SNL every week and it, like she is put in this role, she kills it.
[00:31:00] She's so funny on the show, but it is, no, you don't know who she is until you've seen this show. Like this is her.
[00:31:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:31:07] Paul Scheer: Full out. This is full out.
[00:31:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Before she was on SNL, her comedy persona was called Sarah Squirm.
[00:31:14] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:31:15] Jason Mantzoukas: You know, and it was all of this gross out body horror comedy, you know, was her.
[00:31:21] Paul Scheer: It's like John Waters by way of Peewee.
[00:31:23] Jason Mantzoukas: Peewee Herman.
[00:31:24] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Peewee Herman. Yeah.
[00:31:25] Jason Mantzoukas: Fucked up Peewee Herman type of a body horror. Like there's, she's just got, like, that was so Sarah Squirm this special lives in that world. It's like.
[00:31:34] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:31:35] Jason Mantzoukas: Big, colorful, chaotic set, but with lots of just like gross, tactile stuff. She really heightens every bit to not just absurdity, but to gonzo level absurdity. Um, the fact that she has a foot pedal that just plays the Seinfeld baseline, it's is never not funny. Every time she hits it.
[00:31:57] Paul Scheer: It kills me. It kills me. It kill.
[00:32:00] Jason Mantzoukas: I can't recommend it enough. It's one of the best comedy specials I've seen in years. I think.
[00:32:04] Paul Scheer: I was gonna say there is literally nothing like this special. Uh, it, you know, it feels very much like, uh, Julio Torres's special. Like, it's like, yes, it's redefining what a special is, but I think what more, what's different about hers is like, hers presents as a standup special that is completely twisted. If you just watch anything, watch the first five minutes once you get past the opening, which is just with John Waters.
[00:32:30] Oh yeah. But, but her like entrance onto stage and those first five to 10 minutes are just like a machine gunfire of like, what the fuck? It is.
[00:32:41] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, it is. It's, it's so, it's so nuts. There's so much going on, but it seems so effortless and it's so funny. It, she's so comfortable. Bouncing between all of these very intricate elements, you know?
[00:32:55] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:32:55] Jason Mantzoukas: It's very hard what she's done, and she's making it look not only so easy, but so silly, and it's incredibly impressive.
[00:33:04] Paul Scheer: It's effortless, it's artful, it's fun, and it's, I, I think honestly, it's like inspiring as somebody who, you know, I think that we've watched standup for such a long time that we're just.
[00:33:13] You're like, okay, we understand what standup is like, what a standup special is.
[00:33:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:33:17] Paul Scheer: And yes, we've seen like some brilliant reinventions of that, but this to me makes me go like, oh, there's a different way of doing standup that, I mean, and again, is it all palatable? I have no idea. You may watch it be like, I fucking hate it, and that's okay. I'd rather have more visceral reactions to, this is fucking nuts. 'cause that's what I think it is. And it's, it's great. Like in that way.
[00:33:39] Jason Mantzoukas: It feels like an outgrowth of, of like stuff that used to be like the Gethard show or stuff that feels like some of the stuff that like Joe Pera does or stuff like, you know, like there's, there's something about it that feels really interesting and come, it's a, just a unique voice. I guess that's all I'm saying. It's a truly unique voice.
[00:33:57] Paul Scheer: There's a, there's a part of, okay, so I would say like, if Tim and Eric begat Eric Andre. Eric Andre has begat Sarah Sherman. Like they keep on like, kind of.
[00:34:07] Jason Mantzoukas: That's interesting. Yeah.
[00:34:07] Paul Scheer: You know, like, I mean, pushing, they're all unique, all brilliant.
[00:34:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:34:10] Paul Scheer: But it's like, it's just, they're each comfortable in their absurdity and their own voice in a way that you're like, oh, like Eric Andre show. I've never seen anything like that till I saw it and I was like, this is fucking great. And now I look at this, I'm like, oh. I get why you opened for Eric. You are this and like I get why it crosses over. But I also get why you are unique from him as well. So it's fucking great. I love it. Right. Um, alright Jason, wonderful talking to you.
[00:34:33] We will check in again. Alright, now that we've said goodbye to Jason, it is time to say hello to our next movie. Next week we'll be going from an angel smoocher to a killer shooter. That's right. The winner of this year's Discord fan vote poll is the 2007 action comedy Shoot Em Up, starring Clive Owen, Monica Bellucci, and Paul Giamatti.
[00:34:57] Now I will say that even with over 2000 votes logged, technically the fan vote ended in a deadlock tie between Shoot 'Em Up and the 2003 Disaster film, The Core. However, there was a little bit of foul play. Now, I don't wanna sound like Donald Trump here, but I believe this fan vote was rigged because people switched up their votes at the last second to force a tie, hoping I think that we would do both films, that they would somehow make us feel obligated, to them, to do both. But here's the thing. The Core was way too long. We're not gonna do that. And I did not think that Shoot Em Up was a great choice. So you, you fucked around, you found out, okay, we are gonna do Shoot 'Em Up a movie that I don't think Jason, June, or I believe belongs on this show, but you picked it, you picked it, and we're gonna give it to you.
[00:36:05] Um, I gotta tell you, I, I love this movie and I'm gonna be waxing poetically about it all next week. If you don't know anything about it, lemme just say this. Shoot Em Up, is a Clive Owen movie where he plays a man named Mr. Smith, who delivers a woman's baby during a shootout and is then called upon to protect the newborn from an army of gunman.
[00:36:26] It is essentially like a Bugs Bunny cartoon meets John Wick. Uh, Paul Giamatti gives a amazing performance, I gotta say, uh, Monica Bellucci gives an amazing performance, and we will talk about why Clive Owen was not, uh, raised up for this kind of non winking portrayal of this badass in a overtly comical action film.
[00:36:54] I, I I, I, I can't get into it. We're gonna break it down next week. Uh, Discord, you picked the wrong one, but you also picked a great one. Uh, Rotten Tomatoes gives this film a 67 score on the tomato meter. Roger Ebert wrote in his review,
[00:37:06] "I don't need a lot of research to be confident in stating that never before have I seen a movie open was the hero delivering a baby during a gun battle, severing the umbilical cord with a gunshot, and then killing a villain by penetrating his brain with a raw carrot."
[00:37:19] Well, I mean, yeah, I get, I don't know if that's a review as much as it is a, a statement of fact of the opening scene of this film. And if that doesn't make you excited, then uh, I don't know what does. Anyway, let's take a listen to the trailer.
[00:37:33] Trailer Audio: Hey, Annie, listen, I'm afraid that this business trip's gonna take a little bit longer than I thought.
[00:37:37] These guys were stalking this lady. She had a kid.
[00:37:45] I couldn't just stand there.
[00:37:46] Either we really suck. Or is this guy really that good?
[00:37:57] Who are you?
[00:37:57] I'm a British nanny and I'm dangerous.
[00:38:01] Paul Scheer: Now here is the thing, Shoot 'Em Up is not streaming free right now, but you picked it so I'm not gonna hear any complaints. It is available to rent on Apple tv, Amazon Prime Video, YouTube, and Google Play. As always, you can try to find, uh, these movies on Hoopa Canopy and Libby. But guess what? It, it's not, it's not there. So you gotta rent this one, and I think you should. And I don't think you're gonna be upset about renting it. Uh, so go with God. Enjoy your pick. I can't wait to talk about it next week. Uh, it is a fun episode, Jason, June and I getting into this film.
[00:38:36] Anyway, that is it for Last Looks. If you listen to us on Apple Podcast or Spotify, please rate and review us. Please also make sure you are following us and have automatic downloads turned on. It helps the show and we appreciate it. Visit us on social media @HDTGM and a big thank you to our producers, Scott Sonne, Molly Reynolds, our engineer, Casey Holford, our social media manager, Zoe Applebaum, and our intern Quinn Jennings. And we will of course, be forever thankful to the one and only Avaryl Halley. We will see you next week for Shoot 'Em Up.