HDTGM all-star Adam Pally (Sonic the Hedgehog) joins Jason & Paul to chat all about starting out in the comedy scene, Adam's new HBO special An Intimate Evening with Adam Pally, and if he fared better than June on The Great American Baking Show. But first, Paul answers all your Corrections & Omissions on our Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan episode. And as always, we announce next week's movie!
HDTGM all-star Adam Pally (Sonic the Hedgehog) joins Jason & Paul to chat all about starting out in the comedy scene, Adam's new HBO special An Intimate Evening with Adam Pally, and if he fared better than June on The Great American Baking Show. But first, Paul answers all your Corrections & Omissions on our Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan episode. And as always, we announce next week's movie!
[00:00:00] Paul Scheer: It's not chi chichi. Ha ha ha. Can Jason teleport? And we make Adam Pally cry. All this and more on a brand new episode of Last Looks. Hit the theme.
[00:00:16] Music: [Last Looks Intro]
[00:00:16] Paul Scheer: Hello everybody who dreams of taking New York City, but ends up in the outskirts of Vancouver. It's me, Paul Scheer, and welcome to How Did This Get Made Last Looks where you get to voice your issues on Friday the 13th, Part Eight, Jason Takes Manhattan.
[00:00:33] "If you can hack it here, you can hack it anywhere."
[00:00:37] That's Danny The Wall's alt tagline for the film. And today we have a very big episode. Okay? We are gonna be talking to Adam Pally, whose brand new HBO Max Special is currently out and is fantastic. It's called an Intimate Evening with Adam Pally. We're gonna get to all of your corrections and omissions about Jason.
[00:00:55] I learned a lot. You came at us with love, not with hate. Normally when we do these movies, they're like, you fucking idiot. How do you not know about this and that? I'm sorry. I'm sorry that we were not versed in the lore, but you came at us with love and I'm gonna share that love back at you because you know what?
[00:01:12] I'm kind of into Jason. What I learned blew my mind. So we have that coming up too. And as always, we will reveal the movie for next week's episode. But before I get too far into things, I gotta give a big shout out to Mark Granger for this week's amazing theme. You know what one of the best parts of this show is that everybody helps out in making it great.
[00:01:33] Not only our producers, but you, the listeners submit your songs, which you can do right at HDTGM.com. There's a little button there. It says, submit a song. You submit it, we play it here on the show. It's that simple. You make the show better in every single way. And remember, if you are submitting a song, keep 'em short.
[00:01:49] 15, 20 seconds is best. And you know what? Our discord is another place where you can submit your own ideas, not just corrections and omissions, but alt taglines like Danny The Wall did earlier in the episode. You all are the best. We love you and we'll never murder you on a boat when you are just trying to get it on.
[00:02:06] That's our promise to you. Now, big news. How Did This Get Made is on the road. We're doing a big show in Philadelphia, and the movie is a Jerry Butler classic Law Abiding Citizen. We're also gonna be in New York doing Brendan Frazier's Monkey Bone. But besides that, Dinosaur Improv is coming to Boston, DC and New York, and people have been asking me like, well, what is Dinosaur Improv?
[00:02:33] What is a comedy show? It is an improv show with some of your favorite people from like The Righteous Gemstones and Brooklyn Nine Nine and The Office. Your favorite podcast like Bitch Sesh and Dark Web. Yes, I know I've named a couple things that I'm on in there too, but here's the thing. We talk to you, the audience, we get suggestions about your life, and then we improvise a show around you.
[00:02:55] Every show is different. Every show is unique, and here's the thing. To see a bunch of these improvisers coming out of LA or New York to do this show is truly a feat. I mean, we bring a big crew with us, Edie Patterson, Danielle Schneider, Rob Hub, Jason Zuki, myself, uh, Owen Burke, Mary Holland. I mean so many great people.
[00:03:17] This is truly a spectacle that we don't know how much longer we can do it, but uh, when we get to do it out on the road, it is our favorite thing. So you can get tickets at HDTGM.com as well for that. Now, um, I wanna say that, you know, last week we learned a lot about Jason, or we made a lot of educated guesses about Jason, but you know what, not all of them are right.
[00:03:41] As a matter of fact, some of them downright wrong and you let us know. That's right. You fact checked us. And now it is time for you to take the stage and something I like to call corrections and omissions.
[00:03:54] Hit the theme
[00:03:57] Music: [Corrections and Omissions Song]
[00:03:58] Paul Scheer: Thank you Casey Campbell for that theme song. It rocked. Alright, let's go to the Discord. George Glass writes
[00:04:04] "As someone that re-watched all the Friday the 13th this week, the only reference I caught to the actual Friday, the 13th date, is in the first movie. It's an offhand super ADR'd line towards the third act where the cop and the owner of the camp talk about how it's a full moon and Friday the 13th. So all the crazies come out. Now my understanding is that Sean Cunningham came up with the poster slash title, first sold the distribution, uh, ALA corman slash Kenon films, then came up with the story and then filmed it cheaply after. Now, I presume that they realized in post the plot had no references to the actual date of Friday the 13th, and it was added just so people wouldn't complain or be confused."
[00:04:47] Now, you know, that's really interesting to me because I'm wondering if at one point, uh, they just had a movie, maybe it's called Camp Crystal Lake, and then the studio's like, let's release it on Friday the 13th. It'll be spooky and scary. So then because of that, they retroactively make it Friday the 13th. 'Cause I can't imagine coming up with a concept and then forgetting to add it in, right? It's like one hand doesn't know what the other hand is doing. I, I don't buy that.
[00:05:19] I buy that. The studio released this on Friday the 13th, and now let me check if that is actually true because I can solve it immediately.
[00:05:29] Nope, it was May 9th. I was totally wrong. And guess what, George, you were right. So, wow. Okay. Uh, not going to try to, uh, figure out anything more about this franchise 'cause it doesn't make sense. How do you sell a movie called Friday the 13th, and then that's the afterthought? Oh my god.
[00:05:48] Grudlin writes,
[00:05:50] "Everyone does their version of the Friday 13th noise, uh, mostly, 'chi chi chi, ha ha ha' but the noise is officially 'ki ki ki, ma ma ma' per Wikipedia. Howie Manfredini was inspired by the 1975 film Jaws where the shark is not seen for the majority of the film, but the motif created by John Williams queued the audience as to when the shark was present during scenes and unseen, Manfredini was also inspired to recreate a similar sound for Friday the 13th, and he came up with the sound of ki ki ki ma ma ma ma ma, based on the line 'killer mommy. Killer mommy' which Mrs. Voorhees recites repeatedly in the final reel."
[00:06:37] Killer Mommy. Wow. Wow. I'm learning here, people I'm learning and I'm loving it. Danny, the Wall, you remember Danny with the alt movie tagline? Well, Danny comes back and goes,
[00:06:48] "The Muppets were not the first to take Manhattan. June's instincts were correct. The phrase I'll take Manhattan is often the starting line for the song Manhattan, which was a part of the great American songbook canon of jazz standards. The term dates back as far as 1925. So it was a long part of American culture before the Muppets claimed it in 1984."
[00:07:10] Yeah, that was a dumb, that was a dumb goof up on us to say that The Muppets, you're saying this started in 1925? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, sure, sure. Makes sense. Makes sense. Uh, let's go to the phones.
[00:07:21] Listener: Hey Paul, just got done listening to your Jason Takes Manhattan episode, and I kind of wanted to answer a question for you guys about, uh, Jason's powers, um, in the 2017 video game of Friday 13th. When you play his Jason, you can choose which Jason from which movie you wanna play. And they have different powers or enhanced powers and Part Eight Jason, that you can play as you get enhanced teleportation. So yes, he can teleport in that movie. And also a little fun fact about part six, when Tom McLoughlin, the director, was originally hired to direct it, he wanted to make a Cheech and Chong crossover with Friday the 13th. But Paramount said, absolutely not. Keep up the good work. And also if you do another Friday 13th movie, definitely do five where it's not even Jason. Love you all. Take it easy.
[00:08:17] Paul Scheer: Whoa, whoa. That's how I responded to your voicemail when I was listening to it. Uh, I love that the Jason in the games. They acknowledge it.
[00:08:27] Like everyone knows that this doesn't make sense, so let's have fun with it. And I, I kind of like the idea that every Jason is different. Every Jason, you know, is a product of its own time, even though most of them came out year after year after year. But you know what you can change in year. Uh, and Jason doing a crossover with Cheech and Chong is the best fucking idea I've ever heard.
[00:08:48] The fact that we did not get that and we got like Jason versus Freddie, which is fine. Holy shit. But Cheech and Chong are like Abbot and Costello. Oh, that I'm, I am mad, mad. Thi this makes me as mad as when I heard this week that Adam Driver was gonna do, uh, a Kylo run movie with Stephen Soderberg. And, uh, Disney said no.
[00:09:07] What the fuck, people? Don't, you know, a good idea when it hits you, hits you right in the heart. Uh, Lee from Ontario gave us a call. And guess what Lee said.
[00:09:17] Listener: Hey, Paul, regarding Jason Takes Manhattan. Uh, I think I might actually have an answer for Zoox in regards to what is Jason? So in the ninth Jason movie, uh, Jason goes to hell.
[00:09:30] There's a part where the heroes of the movie are in the old Vorhees household. It's an abandoned old house that we've never seen in any of the other movies. And one of the guys, uh, picks up the Book of the Dead, the neon from the Evil Dead movies and just kinda like, oh, this is weird, and puts it down.
[00:09:50] And, you know, I think it was more just at the time, so to be like a wink to the horror fans. Like, Hey, look at this. It's, it's evil dead. We like it too. But people started thinking like, maybe that's what Jason is. Maybe he is a deadite from the Evil Dead movies. And for people saying, what the fuck is a deadite?
[00:10:09] It's like an evil spirit that can possess the body of a living or a dead person and turns them into like a zombie or like a ghoul kind of thing. Um, and so it was kind of, you know, not a hundred percent like is Jason a deadite? But um, after Freddie versus Jason came out and made a lot of money, they planned on, they wrote a script for it and everything, a Freddie versus Jason versus Ash from Evil Dead movie.
[00:10:40] So the fact that they were gonna actually link them all into a shared universe kinda gives credit to the Jason is a deadite theory. Um, they turned that script, I guess, into a comic book or comic book series. But anyway, there is the closest thing I think to an answer that we are gonna get regarding what the fuck, Jason Vorhees actually is.
[00:11:02] Paul Scheer: Another great collab. Oh man. We, Jason is a tricky person to put in a mashup movie because he doesn't speak. Right. So you, you do need that other element. Cheech and Chong, Ash, I mean, yeah, Freddy speaks and Freddy's great, but I, I like a human, sorry. You know, call me what you will. I enjoy a human in there and I know you're gonna like, well, Freddy is a human. I know, but he's not really a human. He is not, like, I, I don't, I don't, I, I, he's, he's a ghoul. He's a ghoul based on a human. Anyway, uh, next up, Stefan from New Brunswick, Canada.
[00:11:40] Listener: Hi. You were asking about the rules of Jason. I think Jason M specifically was asking the rules about Jason V uh, I'll try to keep this concise because there's a lot.
[00:11:50] First movie, he's a jump scare, not a dream, don't worry about it. Second and third movie, he's mostly a dude who lives in the woods? No super strength. He moves mostly like a person. Sometimes he's actually agile. There's a scene where he jumps through a window, uh, to surprise some people. By four, though he's so methodical, he does seem very Terminator. By six, he becomes a ghoul. The only explanation is he's struck by lightning. It's, uh, there's not a lot of deep lore beyond that, except I think they get to it in nine and it makes no sense. Don't worry about it. But anyway, by then, he's a lumbering zombie Terminator. In terms of weaknesses, when he is a human, he just has human weaknesses.
[00:12:27] And when he's a zombie, it's implied he needs to be trapped in the lake. And the idea of hydrophobia is introduced, I think it was in this film, the eighth one. Uh, they actually play that up later. They contrast that with Freddy Kruger, so that Jason's the water guy and Freddy's the fire guy. As for what they want, Jason's targets are pretty much anyone who enters his woods.
[00:12:47] And three, he seems to be killing for his mother, for whom he has like a shrine of her disembodied head. Uh, anyway, uh, after that though, he seems more just like a century just protecting Camp Crystal Lake from any outsiders. Very territorial dude. It's also why stories that take him out of the lake, like especially part eight, don't quite work, uh, because it seems like he would just be killing anyone in his way to get back home, uh, instead of like hunting someone down. So that's why they hand had to concoct the psychic bond, uh, between him and the hydrophobic girl.
[00:13:22] Paul Scheer: See Stefan, this is what we needed, a full breakdown. I appreciate this. I uh, I respect it and um, and I think you bring up some very good points here. Why take Jason out of the woods? I mean, we don't, we don't need to reinvent the wheel.
[00:13:42] All we need is a developer who's constantly, uh, buying that property and trying to relaunch dumb shit on it. I think it's fine. Alright, back to the discord. Johnny Unusual writes,
[00:13:50] "You guys are mentioning how it's better not to see Jason's face, and I agree, but actually almost every movie has a face reveal except for part seven. I found this chart to show how inconsistent the look is."
[00:14:02] Um, sorry if you are listening to this, 'cause that visual component doesn't help you in an audio medium, but, uh, I gotta tell you, this is worth looking at. We're gonna put this on our social media because it really is shocking how Jason has changed.
[00:14:20] I mean, uh. Odd, odd, odd. I mean, truly odd. Uh, maybe what I love about this film is like there is no care of consistency whatsoever. It's not like, oh, they got better at the design and that first version looked cheap. No, it's, it's just wildly, aggressively different. Age. Height, body eyes, wild. Um, alright.
[00:14:49] Scary Mirage writes,
[00:14:50] "You all mentioned that the kills, especially the ship's crew, seemed strangely gore free and that is correct. Paramount routinely had fights with the MPAA, which routinely demanded cuts and gore and blood to secure an R rating for each Friday film. Paramount was tired of fighting, cutting, and sometimes even reshooting kills. So for part eight, they decided to tone down the kills from the beginning. You can also see the error that Jason bloodlessly cuts the throat of the captain with the dull side of his machete. Oops."
[00:15:19] Wow. That is fascinating because even in the most bloody Jason films. It's not like that gr I mean, I guess look, times have changed, you know, uh, The Conjuring.
[00:15:33] They gave it an R rating. They're like, why? There's nothing barely scary in here. And they're, that's the point. It's too scary. So the MPAA is gonna mess with you. And the MPAA, you know, might get Jason at their house. They better not go to Camp Crystal Lake. Uh, they're gonna be wiped out. 'cause Jason doesn't like to do reshoots.
[00:15:51] Uh, Rachel 99, and I'll say it the way that it's written, Rachel 99!
[00:15:56] "If Jason's job is to protect Camp Crystal Lake, why don't they make a movie where he has to stop developers from turning it into condos? I'd watch that."
[00:16:04] Rachel. I just pitched it. We are simpatico, Rachel. I love that. Yes. Why not take it outta the kids and let's kill more adults.
[00:16:11] Um. It's like that Woody, the Woodpecker movie. Did anyone see that? Maybe I'm the only one. My kid like really liked it and it was upsetting. It was a Netflix movie. And, uh, he's like, dad, this is funny. And I had to be like, you know what? It actually isn't funny. I don't ever do that to my kids. But that movie was just too dull for me that I was like, this is not funny and it's actually gonna make you less funny by watching it.
[00:16:32] And he listened. And you know what, we watched Anchorman the other night and he was falling off the bed. Should I show anchorman to my child? I, I, here's the thing, there's a lot of sex talk in all the shows that we watch and that's about as bad as Anchorman gets. And it was a great way to kind of talk about, uh, you know, how to treat, uh, members of the opposite sex and how far we have come and gone back to anyway.
[00:16:55] Um. So many great corrections and omissions this week, but there can only be one that is truly the best. Uh, and you know what I gotta say? Is it the person who agrees with me that we see the same thing? I I I would go with that normally. I mean, is it Stefan who came in and just like brought forth the true knowledge?
[00:17:14] Is it the person that told us about Manhattan? I mean, honestly, you all killed it. But I have to say, um, if I was to wrap up it all in one neat, uh, like little bow, what's the, what's the fact that I'm gonna walk away with? Well, you're gonna be surprised. It's gonna be Grudlin. It's gonna be Grudlin. It's gonna be Grudlin because that ki ki Kiki mama, mama killer Mommy is a great dinner table conversation, uh, starter ender, who knows? I love it. That was great. And you know what, Grudlin you don't get anything you can hold, but you can listen to with your ears. That's right. You get this amazing song. Or I should say creepy song from Rob from Long Island. Hit it.
[00:17:59] Music: [Winner's Song]
[00:18:01] Paul Scheer: Now if you wanna chime in with your own thoughts, you can hit up the discord, right? But more importantly, I wanna hear from you. I wanna hear your voice. So gimme a call at 619 P-A-U-L-A-S-K. 6 1 9 Paul Ask. Coming up after the break, Adam Pally joins Jason Mantzoukas and I to talk about all things comedy.
[00:18:23] Welcome back. By now. I'm sure you've noticed that every week we re-release old How Did This Get Made episodes on our feed. These matinee episodes now come out every Tuesday. This week's matinee was an all time classic Sleepaway Camp. Ah, I love it so much. And next week we'll be closing out our Halloween matinees with Shopping Malls.
[00:18:40] So keep on checking out all of our replays of classic episodes every Tuesday. Okay, without any further ado, uh, we have a very special guest. You know this guy, uh, from the Sonic world. That's right. The Sonic, the Hedgehog World. You also know him as one of the stars of Happy Endings. He is a comedian, he is an improviser.
[00:18:58] He is a writer. He made a show this past summer that is slept on, in my opinion, called, uh, Mr. Throwback. It was Adam Pally and Steph Curry. Uh, a great, great show. Please welcome to Last Looks, Mr. Adam Pally.
[00:19:14] Music: [Just Chat Song]
[00:19:15] Paul Scheer: Adam. So good to have you back on the pod. Not in an official way. This is a more of a straight interview, but we are so excited. You are a fan favorite of How Did This Get Made.
[00:19:25] Adam Pally: Um, that's very, that's an what an honor to be. Yeah. Yes.
[00:19:32] Jason Mantzoukas: Secret. Secret of the Ooze is a, uh, I feel like a legendary episode of the, of the podcast.
[00:19:37] Paul Scheer: One of our first New York shows, I think like Live New York shows.
[00:19:41] Adam Pally: That was just lightning in a bottle of like my ki my son was hitting. Ninja Turtles at the time that we were doing it. And I was very, very, uh, literate. Literate in the language of the ooze, you know?
[00:19:56] Jason Mantzoukas: What is your son into now? Like what should we gear your next appearance towards? What do you have expertise in now?
[00:20:02] Adam Pally: Jesus Christ. I mean, God forbid.
[00:20:05] Jason Mantzoukas: Or, or any of your kids for that?
[00:20:06] Adam Pally: Um, no, my son is into, he, he plays defensive line on the football team.
[00:20:11] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah.
[00:20:11] Paul Scheer: Oh, I love this.
[00:20:12] Adam Pally: It's so cool. In New York City. So it's really cool. Like practice is always.
[00:20:15] Jason Mantzoukas: So cool.
[00:20:16] Adam Pally: To me. Like the beginning of a romantic comedy or something when I'm waiting to pick him up, you know, it's like I bump into like another, like a mom.
[00:20:23] I'm like, oh, hey. You know?
[00:20:25] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, hey, what's going on?
[00:20:27] Adam Pally: Yeah. Uh, 'cause it's like overlooking Tribeca. It's so beautiful. But he plays defensive line. Um, then he, he just booked the lead in, in the play, so he's like, amazing. The coolest kid in school kind.
[00:20:39] Paul Scheer: I love this.
[00:20:40] Adam Pally: And into like.
[00:20:41] Jason Mantzoukas: And I like that you think the romantic comedy that's happening is for you?
[00:20:44] Adam Pally: Oh, I'm still. It's clear. I'm a hero.
[00:20:46] Jason Mantzoukas: It's clearly happening to him.
[00:20:47] Adam Pally: No, of course. You gotta, it's crazy how I cannot, I can't get over that in my life. I guess that's true narcissism that like, even when I with him, I'm like, I'm the star.
[00:20:56] Jason Mantzoukas: That's just main character syndrome.
[00:20:57] Adam Pally: Yeah. I have it so bad.
[00:20:58] Jason Mantzoukas: When you're un unequivocally faced with someone who's excelling at every level and you are like, but I'm still.
[00:21:05] Adam Pally: Well, to be fair, not any of their dads are up on billboards. You know what I mean?
[00:21:10] Paul Scheer: Sure. You know, look, it, it's the journey. This is the, you know, you're, you're looking at it like, oh yeah, this is my downside, but then I'm gonna be coming up. This is where, you know, this is where everyone starts to recognize the billboards go up and all of a sudden the romcom starts.
[00:21:21] Adam Pally: Exactly. You know how it goes. It's like, I'm just getting my, my confidence back after the car crash that killed my wife. Right. 'cause obviously she's dead in this.
[00:21:29] Paul Scheer: Yeah, she's gone. Yeah. She has to be dead. And, um, now Pally, I have heard about you doing this show around New York and LA for a little while now, and everybody that has seen the show that you have done, which is now going to be a special on HBO, which is out right now that you can watch, came away from it in this way.
[00:21:53] Where they're like, you have to see it. It is unlike anything. And I would be in conversation with people who are like, well, is it standup? They're like, kind of, it's like, well, is it like, like, well, is he like playing songs? Like Yeah. Kind of. It's is it a one man show? Kind of. And the, the one thing that seemed to be the, the common denominator in hearing about this show was this revelation that you have at the very beginning of the show that your parents were lounge singers. And I've known you for a very long time. I never knew that about your parents.
[00:22:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. I only in fact have known your father as a physician. I know. You know?
[00:22:31] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:22:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Like that. That's the capacity that I feel like I've met him at under.
[00:22:35] Paul Scheer: Same. And it's such an interesting thing to kind of pull out from your, your past. And I think that. Honestly, that's really the basis that you should go into the special knowing that you, that your parents did this. And what, like from what ages were they lounge singers?
[00:22:54] Adam Pally: They, well, they were, they started their band Pally and Pal while, uh, well, my mother was at Hunter University.
[00:23:05] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[00:23:06] Adam Pally: Uh, and so my father had already dropped out of Binghamton. So like, I'm, I'm gonna say like 20 and 19.
[00:23:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh wow.
[00:23:14] Adam Pally: And uh, yeah. I'll get you, uh, after I tell the story, I'll get you, I have their headshot hanging over there, which I'll get you, you guys. It's so.
[00:23:22] Jason Mantzoukas: I love, it's wild.
[00:23:23] Adam Pally: But, um, so, and then they had me relatively young and they, and my sister, so they were like, you know. We lived in Stuyvesant Town, which was only happened because they were, you know, um, they were artists and they had a subsidy to live in Stuyvesant Town.
[00:23:41] Paul Scheer: Right. Stuyvesant Town is kind of amazing. It's this artist community or you have to make less than like, I like a.
[00:23:47] Adam Pally: 50,000 a year.
[00:23:48] Paul Scheer: Yes. Yeah. And you can live there and it's a pretty amazing idea that that would psyche. It would allow artists to live in New York City without having to like, live in New York City or like, or pay the, the living costs.
[00:24:00] Adam Pally: Pay the. Right. And that's where we, where I grew up. And then, and then, uh, when I was around seven or eight, my dad had had a couple close call auditions and some close call, you know, bookings with music and uh, and it just kind of hit him the wrong way.
[00:24:20] Jason Mantzoukas: Huh.
[00:24:20] Adam Pally: And he decided he wanted to go back to medical school. So he, he went back to medical school at 33.
[00:24:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[00:24:27] Adam Pally: And with, with two children.
[00:24:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, wow.
[00:24:30] Paul Scheer: Isn't it wild that we come from a time, my, my stepdad, um, that my mom remarried, uh, later in life. He was a concert pianist and he got the chance to audition for Carnegie Hall, like, and. And played got rejected. It was like, well, I'll never play piano again. And went and, uh, went back into studying, uh, psychology and just never and only would play if no one was in the house. Uh, right. Like it was like, it's such an interesting thi like we're, I think we would be like, oh, we got some close calls. Yeah, we're close. We're close.
[00:24:59] Jason Mantzoukas: That must mean I'm on the right track.
[00:25:01] Adam Pally: Oh, yeah. I mean, we were just talking about impo like, uh, uh, main character syndrome For me, I would still be walking around being like, well, this bubble's gonna burst any second. You know, like, I got the next one's right around the corner.
[00:25:11] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, wow. Uh, so did your dad then just become a hobbyist musician or did he stop playing music?
[00:25:18] Adam Pally: He stopped playing music.
[00:25:19] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow. Oh. Oh, that's heartbreaking. Oh, wow.
[00:25:22] Adam Pally: It was heartbreaking. But we, we, we had a piano in our house when we, when we. We, we bought an old piano when we moved to Chicago because he, he only, he was close.
[00:25:34] He, he did enough work that he could get through pre-med in like a year and a half. And he was really good at it, he found. So then after pre-med, they, they, he got a scholarship at University of Chicago, which is like a really prestigious
[00:25:46] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:25:47] Adam Pally: University. And my mom was like, yeah, let's just, let's go. And so we moved to Chicago and she worked at a bridal shop in Skokie, Illinois, uh, which actually is still there. And we shot and used this holding on Mr. Throwback, which was.
[00:26:03] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, that's so crazy.
[00:26:04] Adam Pally: It was wild.
[00:26:05] Paul Scheer: By the way, Mr. Throwback a great show. You, Steph Curry. Uh.
[00:26:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Awesome.
[00:26:10] Paul Scheer: It's such a great, I mean, great.
[00:26:12] Adam Pally: Uh, yeah. But like, so that was a thrill to go back to Skokie and like shoot that in like on the street and everything. But so then we, we were there. From the time I was like eight till, like 11 till he finished medical school, 11, 12. Which is why my accent is like wild, you know? Which is why like sometimes I sound like I'm from the Lower East side and then sometimes I sound like I'm from Chicago. And then at 12 we moved to New Jersey where he opened up a small practice
[00:26:43] Paul Scheer: Oh wow.
[00:26:43] Adam Pally: So it, it was like, you know, a lot of moving around and stuff. But that was, that, that was his, yeah, his life.
[00:26:51] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[00:26:51] Adam Pally: That was the life, you know, it was a different time. It was like things were more, were easier to do.
[00:26:56] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:26:56] Adam Pally: You could shift gears, you could take on debt.
[00:26:59] Paul Scheer: Sure.
[00:26:59] Adam Pally: You, you know, like.
[00:27:01] Paul Scheer: Make mistakes. Yeah.
[00:27:02] Jason Mantzoukas: You could take a chance, you could take a chance on yourself and go and open a private practice or figure something out, you know?
[00:27:08] Adam Pally: And the amount of chances he took on himself is wild. And, and they all, you know, sometimes they, they were good and sometimes it was hard, but they, you know, worked out.
[00:27:19] Paul Scheer: Now, I will say too, like for people who know you from, you know, Happy Endings, Mr. Throwback, the Sonic movies, like you have. Dirty Grandpa.
[00:27:30] Adam Pally: The infamous.
[00:27:31] Paul Scheer: Howard Stern's favorite movie. Uh, he talks about it a lot.
[00:27:35] Adam Pally: He talks about nonstop.
[00:27:36] Paul Scheer: In earnest. And here's what I'll say, that personality that you have is, or you're acting great, we love it. Perfect. But you on stage is something that I don't know how many people understand or get, because I will just say, you as an improviser, great. But when you do bits, they are always the most unexpected, weird, uh. Some might even say like, at points can be super aggressive. Where does it begin? Where does it end?
[00:28:06] We don't know. And it like, I will, there's one bit that I'll always talk about. 'cause it was one of the funniest things, Rob Huebel and I hosted the show called Crash Test. It was an 11 o'clock, uh, show, uh, that we would do on Monday nights. So it was a very interesting audience. And you came out as like Bernie Madoff's son.
[00:28:24] Adam Pally: Uh, this is right after Bernie Madoff.
[00:28:26] Paul Scheer: Right after.
[00:28:27] Adam Pally: So it wasn't like.
[00:28:27] Paul Scheer: No, this wasn't like, yeah.
[00:28:29] Adam Pally: Yeah. This was like the week of the story.
[00:28:31] Paul Scheer: A hundred percent topical bit. Uh, yes. Uh, and, and you proceeded to collect money from the audience, uh, for like a trial fund or, or, you know, for your, you basically do a pyramid scheme with the audience and then left with the money that you collected.
[00:28:46] And it is one of the fun and people were like, well wait, he's definitely coming back. There's gonna be a part two of that. Nope. It was, you took the money and you left and, and there was this, just this vibe throughout the entire show. 'cause you are on pretty early where it's like, whoa, but now, but now, and, and it, no, there was never, and that to me kind of sums up where you will go, your commitment to bits, your idea for like, comedy.
[00:29:14] It's one of the most memorable bits in a sea of bits, uh, that I've ever seen. And, and I feel like this show kind of combines. I think parts of you that people are very familiar with, and parts of you that are probably not known to that many people. 'cause I don't know if people know what your live bit persona is, or like, you, when, when you and I hosted some event for Jimmy Kimmel and we sang the entourage theme song to Doug Ellen for three minutes, you know, to get 'em to donate some money, uh.
[00:29:42] Adam Pally: Turns out we were on the right side of history there.
[00:29:44] Paul Scheer: There it is. And, uh, and you know, and so you like, I just think that the special is something incredibly unique because it is without giving much of it away. It's, it's you talking about your life, it's you doing bits, it's you singing songs like as an homage to your, your parents. Um, and it's just this incredibly interesting mix that's kind of surrounded by this doc footage that reminded me of like the pilot episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm, where you're following Larry, getting ready for this big gig.
[00:30:15] We're following you. It's incredibly funny. These voicemails that you've see throughout the show are great, and I and I, and I was talking to you before we started recording, I was like, I hesitate to say anything too specific about the show for fear it is a spoiler because from the minute it starts, you are on this journey and you don't know where it's gonna end.
[00:30:38] And it's funny, and the rug is being pulled out. It's being, uh, pushed under you. You're con you're, you have firm control of what you're doing. I haven't seen a special like this. And I think that people who wanna see some sort of an interesting different comedy special, it's not a standup special. It's not a music special.
[00:30:55] And look, I'm gonna tell. I have a thing for comedians putting guitars on, and the, and, uh, I was prone to not enjoy this, and I found myself, uh, absolutely loving it.
[00:31:06] Jason Mantzoukas: No, it's great. I think the, the special to me highlights one of my favorite things about your comedic persona, which is that you are a deeply unreliable narrator, especially, especially as it refers to your own life.
[00:31:22] Um, and I feel like that is on display, like, full stop in this thing. This thing is top to bottom, classic Pally mischief. And that's, that's what I like about, that's what I love about you, is you are a deeply committed mischief maker.
[00:31:39] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:31:39] Jason Mantzoukas: And that, and it's, the whole show is so funny, but I just love how you're constantly setting up and undoing yourself and that is a delight to watch.
[00:31:49] Adam Pally: I don't know what to say. I am, uh. Really moved. Uh, you guys are my heroes. And, um, it's wild to hear that I really like hear your guys' voices, uh, in my head whenever I make something. So it's really nice to, um, to hear that you, you liked it.
[00:32:08] Paul Scheer: Well, it's incredibly unique in a sea of things where people are like starved for what's different. How do you create something that's alive? How do you create something that feels like, I think what Jason and I love, I I, maybe I'm not, it is like this idea like. You can't always communicate like these i these shows that we see that we love, right. Because they're not just, they're not perfect for tv. But you created something that I think speaks to a special, but also feels incredibly intimate and Yeah.
[00:32:38] Incredibly unique.
[00:32:39] Jason Mantzoukas: But it's also, it's yours. Like it watching it and, and you had, even we've talked, you and I have talked about it Yeah. Is what the show is. Um, and in a way I was like, oh, I wish we'd hadn't talked about it only so that I could receive it. Because what a, like what a, it it really is. It is you.
[00:32:56] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:32:56] Jason Mantzoukas: You know, uh, in every way. It doesn't e like to even be like, oh, there's these jokes, or there's these songs, or there's this, this is just a Pally show.
[00:33:04] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:33:05] Jason Mantzoukas: And that is pretty rad.
[00:33:06] Adam Pally: Yeah. I, again, like I, I feel seen, uh, you know, I was really, wanted to have something. I feel like you guys understand it, especially coming from the world that we do.
[00:33:20] It's like, I need people usually, I, I always need people to like do what I do.
[00:33:27] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:33:27] Adam Pally: And sometimes that can be incredibly frustrating when you, when you don't have access to, to the people that you want, you know, or anybody sometimes. And so I just wanted to like, make something that was like, felt, it was like somebody's album or, you know what I mean?
[00:33:43] Where it's like you, you look at a moment in time of like a a, a Bob Dylan record or something, and you're like, oh, that's what, that's what was that in that moment in time for that person.
[00:33:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Incredible.
[00:33:54] Adam Pally: And part of me feels like that's what these specialists should be. Right?
[00:34:00] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:34:00] Adam Pally: Or some, or their version of them. Like they don't all have to be like that. Like they're the most amazing joke writers of all time. But like, I look at Anthony Jeselnik's last special and I was like, really, really, um, inspired by that. Like he, yeah, he's a joke machine, but then he goes deeper and it's like, you know, but it's all him. And it's like, and again, like you could put, you know, it's like you can visualize the jacket and you can visualize the, the image and you're like, oh, that's that record.
[00:34:29] And I, I don't, I never had anything like that. I just had the, these moments that we've had on stage that were created to go away, right?
[00:34:38] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. Our, our chosen art form is ephemeral, you know, like everything we've done, I mean, not everything, obviously we've all been on, on, on TV and stuff like that, but like the vast, vast, vast majority of hours logged for us.
[00:34:52] Adam Pally: Oh yeah.
[00:34:52] Jason Mantzoukas: Are improv shows. Ephemeral that night only. Nobody's taping it. Nobody sees it again. And that's bad.
[00:34:57] Adam Pally: It's like both of you guys, like I've seen, like Jason, I mean you, Ja. Jason, you've made me cry doing an improvised scene with Jessica. You know, we're literally, the audience is like gasping for air, laughing, and then the next moment hysterically like crying and holding them 'cause of something you said, you know, that like cut to the point.
[00:35:19] And Paul, like, the first joke I ever saw in improv was I, I can recount it to you now, which is like, I would say we put it up there in the hall of fame of like Simpson's jokes, which was the, it was a respecto scene and Huebel, there was like this horrible thing happened in a village and Huebel was running away from the village and someone put down a sign that was like, don't go this way, go the other way.
[00:35:46] And then someone put down another sign after it that was like, that last sign is a, a liar. Go this way. And then you came out and were like. Affordable signs to build and sell.
[00:35:59] Paul Scheer: Oh my gosh.
[00:36:02] Jason Mantzoukas: So good.
[00:36:03] Adam Pally: I mean, like, and that's. I, I mean, like the audience for both those shows, probably 11 people maybe.
[00:36:07] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:36:07] Adam Pally: Like, you know, and like I was there and it was like lightning. It's like genius. But you don't, but no one gets to. They take it with them in the fe in the feeling of it, and they try to recount it, but it like doesn't hit the spot.
[00:36:22] Paul Scheer: Well, this is why I love that, like improv and, and, and different types of shows now are getting more traction. Like, it used to just be like, the only way you could go out on the road is to do a standup show. Then I think podcasts entered into that equation, and now I think it's expanding to bit shows, you know, uh, shows like, it, it, you know, do, we're doing improv, like the idea of doing improv on the road. I think the joke was early on in those moments where we were all doing this, like, you could never take this on.
[00:36:51] There's nothing here to take on the road. Like, what are you, what are you selling? And, and it's so, I think, but people just want this idea of a moment, like, we experienced something together. It's incredibly unique. No one else will get it. And I love standup and I think it's, it doesn't take anything away from standup, but it, it allows you to go like, oh, if you saw five improv shows in five different cities, it would feel like a completely different show. And that's part, and the audience makes that up. Everything makes that up. And this show that you did, you're, you're special captures that vibe. And I think it's the intimacy of the doc crew that you have following you to get you behind the scenes of the artifice of what this even is.
[00:37:33] Uh, you know, what the special is. And then, um, I think that that's something that I think other people have done, but you do it in a way where you are aware of that camera and making it very entertaining and not like also a naval gaze. Because I've seen that too. Like the, the serious version of the doc behind the thing.
[00:37:50] Adam Pally: No. Yeah, yeah. No. Well, I think it's also, well, two things. Well, musically, and Jason, we talked about this a lot. Like, you know, I am a hip, like a, not even a hippie, nouveau hippie of, of that generation of like Phish and the Dead and, and Dave Matthews and Pearl Jam and like that. There's a feeling you get specifically, or, or Jack White to the White Stripes.
[00:38:14] Like there's a feeling you get from going to those shows where you don't know the set list before.
[00:38:19] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:38:20] Adam Pally: And you know, and it's like it creates a community because the people like who saw it one night are telling you this could be it. And then, and then they're saying, this could be it and this could be it.
[00:38:31] And it's all these, there's a question there that's unanswered until the, the lights go down. And even, even the best standup comedians, that question is answered beforehand even though you're not hearing the material because of the format.
[00:38:49] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:38:49] Adam Pally: Because it's jokes. It's one person with a microphone. It's presented in this way where it's like, this is my act and this is this year's act.
[00:38:59] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:38:59] Adam Pally: And this is next year's act and this is my act and you're getting what Des Moines got. But you might get it a little better 'cause I learned what laughs or didn't. but you're getting the same act and, part of that is, is like, you know what, we came up like, I would rebel against that all the time. I'd be like, well, I can't do that.
[00:39:17] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:39:18] Jason Mantzoukas: Classic, classic Pally.
[00:39:21] Adam Pally: But I wouldn't be like, I can't, I can't even imagine myself doing that.
[00:39:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:39:24] Adam Pally: You know what I mean? And then as you get older, you're like, oh, well that's an art, like that's a Broadway show, right? That's a one man show. That is a talent that is so specific. Those lines are memorized. Those emphasis are, are, the timing is perfect. It's been worked, it's been rehearsed, it's been figured out. And, and what I like about a jam band is that it's not, and so you're, it's like, well, how do I take, how do I get that feeling of. Of con of, of well, of what we do into that.
[00:39:51] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah.
[00:39:51] Paul Scheer: I think it's like, well, I'm leaving the house and I'm paying money. So why is this special? Because if you can go, if you go pay money to see a movie, it's gonna be out on, you can watch it at home within the course of probably three weeks. So it's like, why are you making me go out? And Yeah. And it's like, well, why are you making me come out to see this comedy show? It's gonna be, it's gonna be, it's, and again, they're all different, obviously.
[00:40:16] Like you can go see, you know, the same material and it's done and it's fine. But it's like, but there's something about these shows that feel more alive and in a way that it's like, oh, maybe he'll fuck up, maybe this will go off the rails. I don't know. And I think you keep elements of that. This show feels it's only it's shot in one day.
[00:40:33] Uh, but it, it doesn't feel crisp around the edges in the right way. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead.
[00:40:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Can, I think one of the things that I really loved about it is, is not, is the special because the special inclusive of the show and the black and white documentary scenes is what this is to me, which is a perfectly shaggy hangout special. But the, the idea that you cannot, because of licensing issues, show you guys actually excelling at playing the songs.
[00:41:04] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:41:05] Jason Mantzoukas: Because unequivocally the thing, you're there and are doing the best, playing these songs very well. Clearly you've got Dave Hill there, you've got a great band there.
[00:41:15] You are not allowed to show that. So all we get access to is your, your your fragile mind and, and the everything that.
[00:41:24] Adam Pally: So almost like my recollection.
[00:41:25] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:41:25] Jason Mantzoukas: Great.
[00:41:25] Paul Scheer: Yeah. It's like you're telling someone about the show, which is kind of brings it back to what I was saying. This is the show that so many people have talked to me about as you've been doing. Have you seen Pally's show? Oh yeah, that was great. Oh, Mike, he did this. He did that. Every different person because I think it felt like, oh, he's gearing up for something. I don't know what, and, and you, in the past, you've done this too. Didn't you have like a show where you were doing like wine tasting and clothes shopping?
[00:41:50] Adam Pally: Mm-hmm.
[00:41:50] Paul Scheer: Like, yeah, like, you know, you know, so like, you know, so.
[00:41:52] Jason Mantzoukas: Well what, remind me, Pally, will you just tell us about the movie you did with Fred Armisen and Zoe Lister Jones?
[00:41:58] Adam Pally: Yeah. It was called Bandaid, which Zoe wrote and directed and did everything, the music and everything. And I had to learn again, like I got the part, um, by, by playing a song like, you know.
[00:42:11] It wasn't a necessarily an audition process, but it was like, can you play a song and sing? And I have rudimentary guitar skills from like, being in high school and playing, you know, in a couple bands.
[00:42:22] Paul Scheer: Cause your dad did not want you to, like your dad.
[00:42:24] Adam Pally: My dad ha did not teach me piano. He did not want me.
[00:42:26] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah. Like when you say that in the, it made me laugh so hard when you said like, like your dad, like your dad could have like.
[00:42:34] Adam Pally: Yes.
[00:42:34] Paul Scheer: Given you a little something, but no.
[00:42:36] Jason Mantzoukas: I missed that. I will say the, the part in the special where you and your dad play together is wonderful and hilarious.
[00:42:43] Adam Pally: Oh yeah. I love that. I love that moment. And I love the moment after where I'm yelling at him and then it gets like, a little tense is like one of my favorite moments in this special. Uh, but, um, but yeah, no, I, I, I had to learn again how to do it and then I had to learn how to play in a band. And then we did these shows, these like big shows, and that was, this was like 10 years ago and it was like really eye-opening. 'cause I was like, oh, I, I like this.
[00:43:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:43:09] Adam Pally: And, and, and I've, I've always been embarrassed that I play guitar, uh, and, and be because of Paul, like, what, what you said, like, I'm the most hypercritical of every comedian on the planet.
[00:43:23] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:43:24] Adam Pally: I, I, anything that is foreign to me, I immediately don't, like, I'm like, you know what I mean?
[00:43:30] Like, it's like I need to be warmed up. And so I've all had that thought a million times where I'm like, what am I gonna do? Go out on stage and play guitar? Like, like that's not comedy. That's, you know, what a crutch.
[00:43:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:43:43] Adam Pally: You know, and like, um, and I think I, I, I changed on that view because of, uh, like exactly what we were saying before it, it's like, well, who cares?
[00:43:59] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:44:00] Adam Pally: And, and if this is part of the premise of what I'm doing, then you gotta pick up a guitar.
[00:44:05] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:44:05] Adam Pally: And, and that was kind of, and it was kind of like, I don't know, it was kind of like being like, yeah, I, I am one of these guys.
[00:44:12] Paul Scheer: You know. Well, now let me ask you this. I don't wanna put you on the spot here, but you did, uh, workshop this primarily at the Rehad, uh, comedy festival.
[00:44:21] Now I do want give you a moment to just talk about why you went there. Uh, you know, just get that off your chest. You know, I wanna, I want to, I want to just hear it from you.
[00:44:29] Adam Pally: Well, I went there for money. I went there for money. Um, no no.
[00:44:36] Paul Scheer: No. He's, Adam is not.
[00:44:37] Adam Pally: No, I have not. I'm hesitant even to make a joke. Like, I don't even know.
[00:44:41] Jason Mantzoukas: Paul. Paul, you did say you had three gotchas for Pally. Yeah, I got you.
[00:44:45] Paul Scheer: Got two more. Two more coming up. Two more coming up. Don't worry. I space them out. Um, so get, I'm comfortable again. You did talk about. No, but that's just because you did like the Fox News Show.
[00:44:54] Um, you talk about being uncomfortable and I will tell you that, uh, one of the things that has caused so much drama in my household is a show that you are currently on right now. Uh, the Great American Baking Show, the celebrity Halloween edition. It's you, Patton Oswald, Leslie Jones, and Rachel Dratch, hosted by our friend, friend of the show, Casey Wilson and Andrew Reynolds.
[00:45:15] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:45:16] Paul Scheer: Now June. I think which we've will be the first to say this show gave her like a full on panic attack, nervous breakdown. So much so that we have not watched it. We're not allowed to watch it, nor.
[00:45:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Wait has June's come out?
[00:45:30] Paul Scheer: Oh, yes, it's out.
[00:45:31] Adam Pally: Yeah. June's came out. Oh, they warned me about June.
[00:45:33] Paul Scheer: Yeah. See on Roku.
[00:45:34] Adam Pally: Yeah. June. I was, first of all, I was, I wear this with a badge of honor. People brought June's name up to me behavior wise many times.
[00:45:45] Paul Scheer: See I love, I like this.
[00:45:46] Adam Pally: They hadn't seen my sort of behavior since June. So I wear that.
[00:45:54] Paul Scheer: Well that makes me now wanna watch this because I'm not allowed to watch the other one. So you can watch that on the, the Roku channel and what a great crew. 'cause you have Patton and Leslie and Dratch on there.
[00:46:04] Adam Pally: It was so fun and so stressful. Like I will, I do empathize with June. Like it is stressful. Like you think it's gonna be casual and you think it's gonna be, but then they're extremely harsh about the judging, which hurts no matter what.
[00:46:16] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:46:16] Adam Pally: Like no matter what.
[00:46:17] Jason Mantzoukas: And the judges are the same as Paul, still Paul Hollywood and Pru, right?
[00:46:21] Adam Pally: Yeah. But it's not like celebrity Jeopardy where the questions are toned down. It's like the same thing.
[00:46:26] Jason Mantzoukas: It's not easy. Like what Ike Behold has to do on Jeopardy.
[00:46:29] Adam Pally: Yeah. No, I've seen those questions. That dude didn't graduate high school. You're telling me Celebrity Jeopardy, Illuminati.
[00:46:38] But yeah, like it was totally true. I was, I was totally stressed out. There's so many rules, there's so many bees. You're cooking outside for God knows why reason.
[00:46:47] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:46:47] Adam Pally: Like, I, I don't understand why they do that. Like, and it's just production is hell. Oh, there's like hay fever, like British hay fever, everyone. Sniffling and being like, right, we're doing this in the worst possible time. You're like, well then why, why?
[00:47:02] Paul Scheer: Why do this? We don't need, the tent isn't part of the show. But anyway, that, that is, uh, like, uh, again.
[00:47:08] Adam Pally: So fun. It was a blast.
[00:47:09] Paul Scheer: Out on Roku. And your podcast with, uh, Gabrus has, uh, been a delight to listen to you two together. I love Gabrus. Ugh. I love you.
[00:47:17] Adam Pally: Oh, he is the funniest. Thank you.
[00:47:18] Paul Scheer: Uh, and you guys, it's called Staying Alive.
[00:47:21] Uh, and yes, it's basically you're talking to, uh, some wellness experts. You're also talking to some people about how they stay, how to stay healthy. You're getting to a certain age. There's a, there's a moment where you're just kind of, I was listening to Flanney talk about this, uh, Flanny who runs Largo was on Mark Marron.
[00:47:39] It's a great listen, if you've not heard that, it's awesome. Uh, but just like you get to a certain age and you start to worry about these, these things like what do I have? What do I trying to get? What am I trying to get rid of and how do I do better? You know, uh, and. I love the podcast. 'cause it, it, it's one of these podcasts I think you can take away valuable things from without it being like, oh my God, I'm about to die. Or, uh, I'm, or I'm so freaked out that I'm changing everything in my life.
[00:48:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, it's got that thing, which is, it's a great, it's about health and wellness and all that kind of stuff in that space, but it's hosted by you two dummies.
[00:48:13] Adam Pally: Yeah.
[00:48:13] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:48:14] Jason Mantzoukas: Which is all I really wanna hear is you and Gabrus chopping it up. Sometimes it's with a scientist or a doctor or an expert, and then sometimes it's with Mike Mitchell from Dough Boys.
[00:48:24] Adam Pally: Yeah.
[00:48:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Or Carl Tart. Or people that you guys know and hang out with, but nonetheless are still gonna talk about their, their, you know, like how, how, um, how in shape they are or whatever, you know, whatever version of their health journey. And that's what's fun is to hear it through your guys' lens.
[00:48:40] Adam Pally: Absolutely. Thank you. Yeah. Like, well, we don't know what we're doing and we don't, we're not, you know, I feel like the average person is just trying to swim, like swim through a sea of ads and recommendations and you know, doctors prescriptions and non-doctor prescriptions.
[00:49:00] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:49:01] Adam Pally: It's like the, the, and, and everyone just wants, everyone's just scared of dying, which is so empath like, you know? It's just, that's, that's all it is. Everyone's just so scared of dropping dead and so, we'll, we'll do anything to like prolong that and I, the same. And so talking about that thing is kind of freeing in a way because yeah, we're all walking around with our little medicine bags, you know, with our little routines, but we don't wanna.
[00:49:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, you mean my AM/PM pill case that now sits on my kitchen cabinet?
[00:49:33] Paul Scheer: Oh my God.
[00:49:34] Adam Pally: You should see my, I I, I take pills as the amount of pills that I take daily. It, I should be sitting in a nursing home with a bike helmet on, but like, I just don't want to keel over yet.
[00:49:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. Part of the problem is our, the, the, the, the, we're so focused on billionaires and extreme wealth and all of this kind of stuff, and all of those people believe that their money is gonna keep them alive forever. And what everybody should instead be recognizing is we are all gonna die.
[00:50:06] Adam Pally: Oh yeah.
[00:50:06] Jason Mantzoukas: And we should all, I wish all the billionaires were like, let me instead demonstrate how to live a full life and how to die responsibly.
[00:50:14] Adam Pally: Yeah.
[00:50:15] Jason Mantzoukas: Wouldn't that be great?
[00:50:16] Paul Scheer: Well, and by the other way, the other thing is like, Hey look, I guess I'm gonna live a a, a forever and I'll be so fucking miserable because my days are spent not enjoying anything. It doesn't seem like there's any joy in their life. It's like just to live, like, and I've seen a lot of older people.
[00:50:32] Jason Mantzoukas: So cool. You've seen a lot of older people. That's awesome.
[00:50:35] Paul Scheer: Oh, I mean, well, I pay for it. I, I pay for it. Um, and I'm, and I get great footage, I get exclusive stuff. But like, the truth is, is like, well, what good are you if you're alive and none of your friends are? Right?
[00:50:47] Like, it's like it's, it gets progressively more and more lonely. It's not like, oh, I don't wanna die today. Of course you don't wanna die today, but, uh, you know, at a certain point, Hey, you were like, well, uh, I think, I think I've done my time here. I've, i've figured it out. I'm, I'm, I'm ready to go.
[00:50:59] Adam Pally: Do you remember the scene in White Lotus where the last one, where like, there's a party going on and the dude is just like sitting in the house in Thailand, the older guy, and he is like watching and, and he knows that his, that his like young French wife is off with the boys, right?
[00:51:13] And. Like that reminds me of like the Jeff Bezos wedding.
[00:51:19] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:51:19] Paul Scheer: Right, right, right.
[00:51:20] Adam Pally: Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Where it's just like he's 40 years older than every guest at that wedding and they're just like partying and spending money and I doubt he has like more than like one or two close friends there.
[00:51:32] The rest are just like celebrities or billionaires or whatever that like interact with him transactionally and stuff like that. But there, no matter how full the night was, there was a moment where he was sitting there alone and he was like, holy shit, I'm gonna die. That's it.
[00:51:45] Jason Mantzoukas: It used to be that it took a show, like Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous or something to give us access to the, the extreme wealth, the, to pull the curtain behind. Like, um, you know, it used to be when you got to be that rich or wealthy, it meant that you could retreat from society. You could retreat from, you could buy a private island, you could retire.
[00:52:09] Adam Pally: It was, guache, it was guache to show people your house or what you're.
[00:52:12] Jason Mantzoukas: And now to not just, not just is it like so in fashion to demonstrate so outrageously your wealth demonstrably show it all the time on social media or whatever.
[00:52:23] It's also weird that all these billionaires, now that they are so wealthy, all they wanna do now is be so popular.
[00:52:30] Adam Pally: Yeah.
[00:52:31] Jason Mantzoukas: They just wanna be loved. They wanna be loved across the board and immortal.
[00:52:35] Adam Pally: Yeah. And they wanna live, they and because it's like every.
[00:52:38] Jason Mantzoukas: And they wanna be funny.
[00:52:38] Adam Pally: Because I think they think they're outrunning their old selves.
[00:52:41] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:52:41] Adam Pally: In a lot of ways. It's like the longer I stay around, the less people will remember. What I was, and this is who I am now.
[00:52:48] Paul Scheer: Mm-hmm.
[00:52:48] Adam Pally: And I'm not even that person anymore. A lot of them are so delusional, you know what I mean? Like, so I, I, that's the, the, one of the most fun things about the podcast is like finding out that a lot of the health industry is like snake oily.
[00:53:02] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Well, it's always been.
[00:53:04] Adam Pally: I mean, like, so much of it.
[00:53:05] Paul Scheer: I mean, it's like this idea of like, this, the diets, the diets that are gonna change everything, you know? And it's, and I always think, like whenever I see somebody do it, I'm like, well, at the end of the day. Just like exercise a little bit and just try to have a little restraint.
[00:53:19] They don't have to go full on anything, but people are like, no, no. Now my whole life is only this. And then that lasts for six, eight months or two weeks or whatever it is, and then you go, you fall back. It's like, it's, it's built to kind of pull you back in.
[00:53:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Yeah. One of the things I like about the podcast too is again, you guys are just, it's, it's one of the things that's on display so much is the same thing that I loved about 101 places to Party before you die.
[00:53:45] Paul Scheer: Oh my gosh, yes. Oh my God.
[00:53:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Uh, the travel show that you and Gaber also did for the, I believe is maybe now on HBO Max.
[00:53:51] Adam Pally: Yes. HBO.
[00:53:52] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay. I cannot recommend it enough. I've recommended it on this show before. It's fantastic because it's, it's a travel show and of course I love a travel show, but really what I loved about it is it is a show about male friendship. We are, we talk all the time right now about like, oh, loneliness epidemic. Men have no friends, men don't know how to have friends. The. You and Gabrus are so effortlessly demonstrating male friendship in a way that is so fun and also so funny on that show. And I feel like that comes through into the podcast as well, but also then is in service of, you know, talking to experts and talking to doctors and all this other stuff, but in a way that's so much more approachable than if you just were to dial up a another interview with that same, if you were like, I wanna talk to a sleep doc, I wanna hear a podcast with a sleep doctor because I'm having trouble sleeping. I'm the version of it that you guys do, incredible. You, you know, um, because that's, you know, I wanna hear two regular guys try to parse this out for themselves.
[00:54:54] Adam Pally: Yeah. And sleep apnea is truly no joke. Truly no.
[00:54:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:54:58] Adam Pally: Fricking joke. Like one of the hardest things to crack. Uh, and I feel like tru uh, an American struggle, like, uh, uh, I know it happens around the world, but there, but like we are not addressing people dying in their sleep.
[00:55:13] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:55:13] Jason Mantzoukas: No, it's crazy. But you know, and that's, those are the kind of conversations that I think are necessary especially for middle aged guys like us. But boy is it fun to listen to you and Gabrus chop it up with people.
[00:55:26] Adam Pally: I'm obsessed with it. I just want what we talk about. It's what, whenever I see a friend and they look good, I'm like, what are you doing? What's, what's going on over there? You know what I mean?
[00:55:33] Paul Scheer: It's normalizing. It's normalizing that kind of conversation that I think especially. Uh, men don't have, I don't want to generalize it too much, but I think that that's, it's, it's a good, it's a good thing out there. And it's one of many good things, Adam, because right now we can watch your special, we can listen to your podcast. We can watch you bake on the level of June, which makes me more excited than anything.
[00:55:54] Adam Pally: Well, I don't know about bake. Behave.
[00:55:56] Paul Scheer: All right. Behave.
[00:55:56] Adam Pally: Behave.
[00:55:57] Paul Scheer: Okay. Got it. Got it. Um, well, I am so happy.
[00:56:02] Adam Pally: Dude. Thank you so much. I'm sorry I cried again. I feel like every time you guys are having me on, I cry, but it's really caught me off guard and I, I, uh.
[00:56:10] Paul Scheer: The show is great. You are fantastic. Always doing.
[00:56:13] Adam Pally: Love you guys.
[00:56:14] Paul Scheer: Such great, great stuff. You're the best buddy. Love you.
[00:56:17] Adam Pally: Love you. Thank you.
[00:56:17] Jason Mantzoukas: All right, love you buddy.
[00:56:18] Paul Scheer: Thank you Jason and Adam for just chatting with me. But now it's finally time to announce our next movie. Next week we'll be going from a Jason in Manhattan to a Jason on Mars? Wait, what are we doing, Freddie in Space? Oh, no, no, no. We're doing Jason Statham on Mars because we're watching the 2001 film, John Carpenter's Ghost of Mars starring Jason Statham, Ice Cube, Natasha Hendrich, Clea Deval, and Pam Greer. I have never seen this movie, and I am so excited. Here's IMDBs breakdown of the plot.
[00:56:55] "200 years in the future, a Martian police unit is dispatched to transport a dangerous prisoner, but when the team arrives, they find the town deserted and the remaining inhabitants possessed."
[00:57:06] Oh, hell yes. Oh, well now, oh hell no, because I just saw that Rotten Tomatoes gives this film a 23 score on the tomato meter. And Bruce Fets from Entertainment Weekly said,
[00:57:18] "It's disheartening to see the Master of Horror bringing himself to both write and direct a film with such a prepubescent understanding of horror."
[00:57:28] Ooh, Bruce, that one hits low. Don't do that to John Carpenter. He demands your respect. By the way, uh, I had a friend saw him in concert. That dude is the best. You ever see him. Just smoke cigarettes and just play video games and talk to Robert Rodriguez. He is the coolest motherfucker of all time. I love John Carpenter.
[00:57:47] I will not have anyone speaking ill of him, but we will speak ill of this movie. Uh, you can stream, uh, Ghost of Mars on the Roku channel, but uh, don't just stream it yet. Why don't you get a little taste of it by listening to the trailer.
[00:58:00] Trailer Audio: It was supposed to be a routine prisoner transport.
[00:58:04] Williams was arrested on the suspicion of murdering six rail workers. The bodies were hung and decapitated.
[00:58:10] But here, a million miles from home.
[00:58:15] Hello?
[00:58:18] They're about to discover nothing is what it seems.
[00:58:23] The hell is going on out there?
[00:58:26] Whatever used to live here, we woke it up.
[00:58:28] It takes us, I'm talking about a kind of possession.
[00:58:31] John Carpenter's Ghosts of Mars.
[00:58:34] Paul Scheer: Alright, now the Ghost of Mars is not just available on the Roku app, it's also available on, get this, the Criterion Channel. Yes. And Apple TV as well as Amazon Prime. In addition, I encourage you to check out Hoopla, Canopy, and Libby. Oh, I love Libby. Which are digital media services offered by your local public library that allow you to consume movies, tv, music, audiobooks, eBooks, and comics for free.
[00:58:57] Alright, that is it for Last Looks. If you listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, please remember to rate and review us. Please rate and review us. It makes this show go higher and the algorithm, and that's important nowadays. Uh, also make sure you're following us so you have automatic downloads turned on and that allows you to not miss a damn thing.
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[00:59:37] We'll see you next week for John Carpenter's Ghosts of Mars. Wow, it's hard to do two plurals back to back. Alright, next week. Bye for now.