How Did This Get Made?

Last Looks: Law Abiding Citizen

Episode Summary

A crew member who worked on Law Abiding Citizen reveals juicy secrets when Paul responds to your corrections & omissions on last week's episode! Plus, Jason and Paul recommend A TON of media they're currently loving, Jason tells a delightful story about Philip Seymour Hoffman and Ethan Hawke in a bonus deleted scene from our Law Abiding Citizen live show, and at the end of the episode Paul announces the next movie we'll be covering on the pod. JASON & PAUL'S WATCH LIST: Shelter Dark Winds Chris Fleming: Live at the Palace Katt Williams: The Last Report Will Hines & Ian Roberts' High Functioning Comedy DTF St. Louis Ultra City Smiths A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms Mike & Nick & Nick & Alice Lovesick The Rip Secret Mall Apartment The Housemaid Ask Hank Anything Ragas Live Festival The Iron Snail JASON & PAUL'S READING LIST: A Short Stay in Hell by Steven L. Peck King Sorrow by Joe Hill I Blame Dennis Hopper by Ileanna Douglas Scene by Abel Ferrera Will Hines' Improv Nonsense Substack JASON & PAUL'S LISTENING LIST: The Twisted Teens Snocaps by Snocaps Tragic Magic by Julianna Barwick & Mary Lattimore Luminescent Creatures by Ichiko Aoba Secret Love by Dry Cleaning More or Less by Dancer Love Trinity by Life Without Buildings Green Energy: First Surge by Greenhouse Band Careful In The Sun by Careful In The Sun Key Change Podcast A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms Audiobook

Episode Notes

A crew member who worked on Law Abiding Citizen reveals juicy secrets when Paul responds to your corrections & omissions on last week's episode! Plus, Jason and Paul recommend A TON of media they're currently loving, Jason tells a delightful story about Philip Seymour Hoffman and Ethan Hawke in a bonus deleted scene from our Law Abiding Citizen live show, and at the end of the episode Paul announces the next movie we'll be covering on the pod.


 

JASON & PAUL'S WATCH LIST:

Shelter

Dark Winds

Chris Fleming: Live at the Palace

Katt Williams: The Last Report

Will Hines & Ian Roberts' High Functioning Comedy

DTF St. Louis

Ultra City Smiths

A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms

Mike & Nick & Nick & Alice

Lovesick

The Rip

Secret Mall Apartment

The Housemaid

Ask Hank Anything

Ragas Live Festival

The Iron Snail


 

JASON & PAUL'S READING LIST:

A Short Stay in Hell by Steven L. Peck

King Sorrow by Joe Hill

I Blame Dennis Hopper by Ileanna Douglas

Scene by Abel Ferrera

Will Hines' Improv Nonsense Substack


 

JASON & PAUL'S LISTENING LIST:

The Twisted Teens

Snocaps by Snocaps

Tragic Magic by Julianna Barwick & Mary Lattimore

Luminescent Creatures by Ichiko Aoba

Secret Love by Dry Cleaning

More or Less by Dancer

Love Trinity by Life Without Buildings

Green Energy: First Surge by Greenhouse Band

Careful In The Sun by Careful In The Sun

Key Change Podcast

A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms Audiobook

Episode Transcription

[00:00:00] Paul Scheer: Exploding dogs, Al Pacino's hair, and you'll never guess what I watched. All this and more on today's How Did This Get Made Last Looks. Hit the theme!

[00:00:17] Music: [Last looks Intro Song]

[00:00:18] Paul Scheer: Hello, all you Gerard butt heads, and I mean that, not like in the Biff Tannin sense of the word butthead, but as someone who is like a fan of, uh, Gerard Butler's butt. People, this is a classy show.

[00:00:34] And you know what? I'm a fucking classy host. I'm Paul Scheer Welcome to How Did This Get Made Last Looks, and I'm so happy that you're here today because you are going to finally be heard. I mean, it's gonna be a majority of me reading your voice and then just me disregarding what you have to say and just talking to Jason.

[00:00:53] But you, for the first part of this. It's all gonna be about you. Okay? You're gonna voice your issues on Law Abiding Citizen, a movie that Discord user Repo Mannish, I like that. Uh, thinks, should have had the tagline,

[00:01:08] "Law Abiding Citizen: Trial by Jerry."

[00:01:12] I like it. I like it a lot. Repo Manish coming in with not only a great name, but a great alt movie tagline.

[00:01:21] Gotta give a big shout out to Benjamin Hilton for that polka remix of our opening song. Thank you, Benjamin. That was just the kind of remix I needed. I didn't know I needed Polka and I didn't know. Besides Weird Al Yankovic, people are doing polk remixes. Anyway, remember people, if you have an alt movie tagline, submit it to us on our discord at Discord.gg/HDTGM.

[00:01:41] And if you have a Last Looks theme song, go to HDTGM.com. Click on the submit a song button. It's easy, just pop it right in there. Keep 'em short. Keep 'em fun. And let's keep them coming. Today we are gonna be hearing all your corrections and omissions on Law Abiding Citizen. Plus I'll even share a bonus deleted scene from our live show.

[00:02:02] Then Jason will stop by for Just Chat, where we will recommend a whole slew of TV shows, music and movies that we are currently loving. These have been fun. Jason and I have not had a chance to really connect on all this good stuff that we've been consuming, and as always, I will reveal the movie for next week's episode.

[00:02:22] Now we are back at Largo in Los Angeles on April 1st, doing our first live show in almost five months. Holy cow, it's been very long. We're gonna be covering the Pierce Brosnan action flick Live Wire, and we have a very special guest and maybe even two. You can get your tickets now at HDTGM.com and guess what?

[00:02:43] Next week on a Thursday, we are putting together the biggest cast of all time doing improv together. Me, Jason, Edi Patterson, Carl Tart, uh, Lisa Gilroy, Seth Morris. Uh. Corinne Wells, so many great people. Come out and check that out on March 26th. Also at Largo, you can go to my website. You can go to HDTGM.com anywhere to get the tickets for both of these shows.

[00:03:10] Alright, people, let's get into it. We had questions and you apparently have answers. It is time for us to get down to business, set us straight if you will. As we get into something I like to call corrections and omissions, Mad Licks, take us in. 

[00:03:31] Music: [Corrections and Omissions Song] 

[00:03:35] Paul Scheer: Okay, everybody. Big news. Every now and then doing this show, we hear from somebody who has worked on one of the films that we have talked about.

[00:03:45] Today is one of those days. That's right. We have an anonymous source from Law Abiding Citizen who has given us some details, some things that are gonna be some real head scratchers. So sit back, relax, and enjoy an anonymously sourced recounting of some of the things that went astray on Law Abiding Citizen.

[00:04:09] Okay, just to refresh everybody's memory, uh, Law Abiding Citizen ends with Jamie Fox going to see his daughter play the cello, and we thought the most appropriate ending to this film would be if Clyde rigged her cello to explode, killing everyone. The ultimate revenge and what do we are finding out is we weren't that far off.

[00:04:32] Okay. So. Many people on the crew thought that's the natural ending of the movie, right? It should just happen like that. It may not be the feel good ending, but it makes sense and the movie's already a little bit crazy. Now, here is a bit of backstory that I didn't know. The film was shot entirely in script order, which is just if you don't know, kind of crazy and unheard of.

[00:04:57] Um, but it wasn't trying to prove a point. It was really just because of the, a myriad of factors, right? You had weather, you had actor schedules, you had set construction, and the biggest part was they didn't have a third act. That's right. This movie was greenlit without a third act, and they needed to get it in theaters.

[00:05:20] So they thought if we move forward in script order, we can always be adjusting for continuity sake. You know, you'll never have to be in a position where you're like, oh, it would be so great if he did this. Oh, but we already shot that six weeks ago, so it was actually a really smart way of addressing it.

[00:05:38] But because there was no third act and because they were shooting an order, there were a myriad of script revisions. I mean, all the time. Uh, according to my source here, they were getting pages slipped under their hotel doors at 3:00 AM every Saturday and Sunday, brand new pages, and. There were like over six writers working on this film and all very high end names.

[00:06:04] Uh, then you also had the talent and the director, everyone was adding in to make this movie as good as it could be, because they knew what this movie was. Yes, it was absurd. But they were committed to making it work, right? They wanted to make the film make sense. So in many respects, and this is what my anonymous source says, there was a lot of care put into it, but it didn't always work out.

[00:06:28] Now, with a day or two left in production, the shooting script had reached quadruple goldenrod. Okay, now, if you're not familiar with production, every time you write a script and you put it in production, it changes color. So the first draft is white, the second draft, uh, blue, then pink, then yellow, then green, and then golden rod.

[00:06:49] Uh, and then it continues on with like buff salmon, cherry, uh, and what this person is telling me is it went to quadruple golden rod, which is like the 25th script that has come out. And there was a joke around set. Has anyone ever worked on a quadruple cherry script? Um, which would be the final color? It would be before it flipped to quintuple white.

[00:07:18] Um, and no one had ever heard of such an absurd achievement. So on the final day of production. It was the viola performance of Nick's daughter at the end of the film. So the night before, one of the producers jokingly sent around pages for a quote, unquote new ending, where Nick and his wife settle into their seats, the lights go down, the conductor starts the recital, and the viola explodes, and then the drums, and then the violins and the oboes, et cetera. The entire theater detonates into a mushroom cloud, fade to black. Now. Everyone read the fake pages and they thought it was a hilarious and fitting end. But yes, that's all it was.

[00:07:58] It was a prank. Um, they all felt that Clyde's gags were super fun and over the top, and it would be honestly more entertaining than the real ending. But alas, they did not ever shoot it. It was just a prank. It was a memorable prank to lift everybody's spirit to get through that last day of principle photography.

[00:08:18] Uh, but it did give this film the unique distinction of having a quadruple cherry status on scripts. Now, I will say this, I love when people share their stories. Uh, this is an amazing one. I love knowing that there was a lot of care here, and I don't think that this movie feels lazy. It's just improbable.

[00:08:39] And that may come from the fact that there are seven writers and people just trying to make it better and better and better. And I think the turns are really good. It just forgot some of the justifications. I don't know. I still think that there's a great movie in here. Uh, but look, that's from someone who was on set.

[00:08:56] Now let's focus on you. Let's go to the Discord. Sam writes,

[00:09:00] "A friend of mine worked on the movie and told me that the production office shipped back a bunch of unused fake blood to the special effects company, but the PAs didn't pack it right and it leaked all over the FedEx truck. And the FedEx was gonna call a specialist or a hazmat team to investigate it until the productions regular FedEx guy realized that the package came from the movie."

[00:09:22] Sam, I love that. And how freaked out that driver must have been to see just blood, they thought, I mean, there's definitely a moment where you're like, oh, I am carrying Gwyneth Paltrow's head here. I have a, a Seven style murderer on my hands. Um, I wish we should do more, like more pranking of FedEx drivers.

[00:09:45] That was what I was about to say, and I was like, no. No, we shouldn't do that. Um, I saw a video with this guy, Arak. He's a YouTuber. Yeah, I have kids. Um, where, uh, he shipped himself across country. But now I'm hearing that Arak is fake. Anyone wanna weigh in on that? Let me know.

[00:10:01] Uh, Ryan Says, says,

[00:10:04] "So a couple of corrections here from the perspective of a prison librarian.

[00:10:07] Oh, wow, Ryan, I didn't know that.

[00:10:09] "First of all, Butler would most definitely not be held in a prison while on trial as he is only been accused of a crime. He'd be in jail or a holding center in the courthouse itself. It would be a litigation nightmare if an innocent person got hurt by an inmate while still on trial."

[00:10:29] Uh, okay. Great. I like that. Um. I didn't also know the difference between jail and prison, and thank you for not hitting it over the head too much. But yes, those are two different places.

[00:10:39] "Second, it's very much a failure on the prisons part for not checking in on Butler while in solitary as there is a risk of escape or suicide."

[00:10:47] Well, look, we're dealing with that in the real world, right? Jeffrey Epstein. Now, uh. Ryan Says, continues by saying,

[00:10:54] "The institutions in my state have a log system where officers have to physically touch a tracking scanner, uh, on the door, and then go to a data pad after looking in the window of the cell door to see moving, breathing, flesh."

[00:11:08] I don't like how you said moving, breathing, flesh. Just say a person. We're all moving, breathing flesh. I don't like it. Uh, anyway,

[00:11:16] "These checks are done every half hour."

[00:11:19] Johnny Unusual writes,

[00:11:21] "It's worth noting that the writer on this film is Kurt Wimmer, master of films that are both tremendously preposterous and very dumb, and still very fun. He's written the, how did this Get Made Classics Ultraviolet, The Beekeeper, Expendables Four. Double trouble. I'm not gonna name the films because it's not a recommendation station, but I assure you that if you are ever stuck for movies, most of his films are the right kind of movies for this show, you can probably skip his Total Recall and Point Break Remakes."

[00:11:50] Johnny Unusual, thank you for not making this a recommendation station, and as a matter of fact, because you didn't, now I am inclined to go deeper, but you're right about Total Recall and Point Break. What whiffs like a whiff and a miss. I mean. I guess a whiff is a miss. Uh, Sean McBee writes,

[00:12:08] "I read the entire screenplay for the movie and I have notes."

[00:12:11] Well, Sean, thank you.

[00:12:13] "While the film credits Kurt Wimmer as the solo writer. The script is written by Frank Darabont following Wimber's previous draft."

[00:12:20] This is interesting, Johnny Unusual take notes. Um, I know about this because when I first came out to LA people were talking about this script. They're like, we have the next Seven.

[00:12:31] And this was the movie. It became, I may have said this in the actual episode, uh, it became this, but let's find out why. Sean McBee continues to write and says,

[00:12:40] "The script skips the actual crime opening with Clyde's nine one one call. Clyde didn't even witness the crime, but came in to find his family already dead."

[00:12:48] Oh. I like that. I like that it's a little bit. I mean that that opening was rough.

[00:12:55] "There's a reason given for Clyde being in the prison and for how he was able to tunnel into all the cells due to overcrowding in the jail. This old and disused prison has recently been opened as an annex to the county jail."

[00:13:07] This all makes so much sense. Okay.

[00:13:10] "Clyde is the first person to occupy those solitary cells in over 20 years. No word on how he could have known that overcrowding would force his old building back into use though."

[00:13:19] Alright, but by the way. Love all these reasons.

[00:13:22] "The version of the script, uh, doesn't have the cemetery scene. Instead, it establishes at the beginning of the movie that Bruce McGill's character is going blind and going through training with a guide dog. And when we skip forward 10 years later, his guide dog is wearing a cone of shame to indicate the dog recently had some sort of surgery, but whatever surgery the dog had came with something a little extra courtesy of Clyde. Yes, Bruce McGill is killed via exploding guide dog. It is somehow even more ridiculous than the cemetery murder bot."

[00:13:53] Wow. Not more ridiculous. Better. Um, okay. We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be back with some more of your juicy Corrections and Omissions. Stick around.

[00:14:06] Okay, we are back with more of your thoughts of Law Abiding Citizen.

[00:14:09] Let's go to the phones. First up is Rebecca. 

[00:14:13] Listener: Hi Paul. Husband and I are big fans of the podcast and we were actually at the Philly show, we had a great time. The whole time I was watching this movie, I kept coming back to the very sort of beginning setting up of the premise, which is, why wouldn't these guys, Darby and Ames have killed Gerard Butler in that initial break-in, I know you guys talked a little bit about how the motive was kind of murky.

[00:14:38] Um, and I agree that there was a lot there they didn't really get into, but it felt like he's incapacitated. He's on the floor, they have the baseball bat. It would've taken like a few extra seconds to like bash his head in. And then you don't have a witness, your, the case against him is that much weaker, like.

[00:14:56] What possible reason would they have for leaving him alive? Like every time I tried to sort of track back and think about that, it just like, it didn't make any sense to me. So I don't know if you guys had thoughts about that, um, or possible theories, but that was my big thing that really kind of, um, stuck with me throughout the course of watching this movie, which I did enjoy very much.

[00:15:19] So thank you very much for the great show. Appreciate the podcast. Bye. 

[00:15:23] Paul Scheer: Rebecca, look, I, I think that sometimes people are left for dead. Maybe they thought that they killed him. Maybe they thought he was such a wimp that one shot would take him out. Maybe they just didn't want it, right? They, they weren't there to kill.

[00:15:35] They were just there to be these violent, uh, whatever. They're not there, there to pick on women and children. Like, they're perverted. They're the worst of the worst. I, I understand the confusion. I get it too. I think that now that we know the script was written in a different way, it makes way more sense.

[00:15:53] I don't know if it makes him more of a hero or less of a hero. I think he would have a lot more issues at play if he came home. I don't know. I I agree with you. It's over complicated. It would be what a great opening scene to have him walk in on that. Oh, we already had that script and we threw it away.

[00:16:13] Um, next up, Ooh, this is good. From anonymous. Not the organization trying to bring down Scientology. Just, didn't give a name. 

[00:16:21] Listener: Hey Paul and everyone else. I was at the Philadelphia show for Law Abiding Citizen. Great time, uh, one omission, uh, that I thought you would catch, uh, when the entire, uh, District Attorney's office moves to the prison for quote unquote safety reasons. They bring in all their files and they also apparently brought their framed diplomas. And then put them up on multiple walls. Thought that was an interesting choice. Love the show. Thanks a lot. 

[00:16:49] Paul Scheer: I cannot believe that we did not see that. And now I can see it so clearly in my head that is, oh, I love it. I love something as dumb as that.

[00:16:59] And you know what? It also makes me love these characters more because you know the actors ask that question, right? They had to. And they're like, well, the room looks too bland. We wanna put some stuff up here. It's like, well, they're, you're trying to have your cake and eat it too. I love that they had to put their diplomas up.

[00:17:16] I may have talked about this before. I'll say it really quick. I used to hang up my diploma in my office, um, like the way a doctor would have it on the wall, and it was a joke that never really took. I was like, yeah, you see the, I don't actually care about my diploma. It's just a joke. But people are like, no.

[00:17:31] It should be on the wall. You graduated. I'm like, nah, I didn't know. And then I'd had to explain it and now I, now it's away. It's in the garage. It's a good joke. I thought, I thought it was a, it was a subtle joke. I didn't always call it out, but then I thought, oh, people, do they think I'm serious about having my diploma?

[00:17:46] It was a school of education diploma. It wasn't even an acting school diploma. Okay. Uh, Scott from Maine. 

[00:17:52] Listener: Hey Paul, Jason, June. This is Scott. I'm from Maine. It's a Stellar Skateboard throwback. Um, I'm literally in the middle of listening to the Law Abiding Citizen episode and I had to pull over and correct something that Jason was talking about and you guys were talking about regarding the prosecutors and lawyers watching executions.

[00:18:14] So Jason talked about watching Law and Order, so I think he needs to refer to the earlier episodes where it's Benjamin Brett. Jerry Orach, um, Sam Waterston, and I can't remember the actress's the name for, um, Claire Kincaid, but they all witnessed an execution. It's where Benjamin Brett's character ends up going and having an affair, and Jerry Orach goes off the wagon. Claire Kincaid ends up dying in a car accident later. Spoiler alert. And it's just, uh, a little silly. Having listened to this episode and loving you guys so much, but this is a major Law and Order episode where all these prosecutors and lawyers are watching the execution, uh, regarding the death penalty in New York.

[00:18:56] And I think it's the first time they execute one of their prisoners. So there's my omission. Thanks so much. I love your podcast. You guys do an awesome job. Have a great day. 

[00:19:05] Paul Scheer: Whoa. Well, I guess there's the Law and Order episodes I might have missed. Okay, well there we go. That I'm glad to know that this is true. Uh, and you know what? Score one point for the movie. Next up, Steve from New Jersey. 

[00:19:22] Listener: Hi Paul. Regarding Law Abiding Citizen. I thought it was hilarious that the CIA agent said we could not kill this guy for six months. Then we called in Jerry Butler and he flipped a neck tie into his wardrobe that strangled him to death. If they could get a neck tie into his wardrobe, why couldn't they get a bomb into his bedroom? That is all. Have a great day. 

[00:19:53] Paul Scheer: Well, I mean, come on. It's so much easier to sneak a tie in. You just put that on the shelf. A bomb at. Click, click, click. There's wires. There's buttons, everything. I think the neck tie was great.

[00:20:05] I I love that. I think that that's a fun thing. 'cause you feel like, oh my God, they were in my house. They put the thing there, I put it on myself. It's like the dog. They snuck it in the dog. That is where I think this movie should have done more. And I think that's why this movie was viewed as a Seven style film because it's like, you can't stop it.

[00:20:22] You don't even know where it's coming from. You're actually doing it to yourself. Oh, this movie could have been so good. Um, okay. Now here's the thing, lastly, uh, we're gonna do something a little bit different today. Now, normally this would only be about Law Abiding Citizen, but we did a matinee episode of 88 minutes, uh, Pete Holmes, Al Pacino movie.

[00:20:45] We put that back into the feed and someone called with a correction and omission that had to be discussed. Had to be discussed. So please take it away, anonymous. 

[00:20:57] Listener: Hi. I just was listening to the episode 88 Minutes with uh, Pete Holmes and I had to stop and call in because they're currently debating whether or not Al Pacino was wearing a wig in the movie.

[00:21:13] And I actually did his makeup and hair for something just a few years after that movie came out. And I can confirm that that is his hair. Also, that is his hair, because that's how he wants his hair styled. So when I worked with him, it was for an interview. It was not a union shoot, so I was doing his makeup and his hair.

[00:21:37] He was lovely and I did his makeup, and then when I went to do his hair, I reached out to touch it and my fingers just grazed against it for one moment as I was gonna start to style it. And he dodged my hand, uh, like slipped his head to the side and said, no, no, no, no, no. The hair is fine. Thank you so much.

[00:21:58] The hair is good. And what I had felt when my fingers made contact was it clearly had been doused in just an enormous amount of hairspray, which makes sense in hindsight considering, um, the, the height ratio to the ratio to the depths. It was very, very thin, but incredibly tall. And this was only a few years later.

[00:22:24] This was like four years after 88 Minutes, but it was thinner and considerably taller even than in 88 minutes. So I would also venture to guess that the makeup or the hair department on the film used, you know, there's various powders and things you can apply to make it look fuller, but definitely. It was the way that it was because he had really strong feelings about his hair height especially, and uh, when I was done with everything, not his hair.

[00:22:58] He was like, okay, great, thank you. And the producers came up to me and they were like, Hey, um, did you wanna, uh, touch the hair a little bit? And I said, uh, I tried. And he ducked away from me and said, the hair's good. I, I believe he did it himself. And they said, then it looks great. And so I didn't tell anyone that I did Al Pacino's hair and makeup.

[00:23:21] That day for that project, even though it was really exciting for my career because I didn't want people to think that I did that to his hair, but he was really happy and it made him happy and that makes me happy because he was a pretty nice guy. And that is all. 

[00:23:37] Paul Scheer: Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. I don't, wow.

[00:23:43] First of all, thank you for sharing that. I think you did it in the best possible way. Uh, you know, look, it's his hair. And I think old guys that used to have a big, thick head of hair, they get nervous when it gets a little bit different. I don't mind it being like that. It's not like a comb over, but I get it.

[00:24:01] There's things were happening, right. And maybe, you know, maybe there were things in there that all pulled together. Wow. I love this. I love it. I love it. I love it. And I love that he's a good guy. I told you, or maybe I, I may have mentioned it, I, I did a movie where he was, uh, hanging out with one of the actors in the film and one day he just decided he would just wait in the car outside, set the entire day.

[00:24:26] Never came to set, but just waited for his friend to come out. And I thought that was the sweetest thing. Al Pacino, great guy, great head of hair, and, um. I feel like whenever I see it's still there, who knows? Who knows what's going on. I don't need to hair shame anybody. Uh, but I'm glad that it's not a wig and I'm glad that he is that passionate about it because if he likes it, I love it.

[00:24:48] Uh, and you know what? Look, nothing is going to beat that. I mean, truly right? Nothing is gonna beat a good old Al Pacino hair story. Um, and you know what? Instead of just giving you a theme song, anonymous, I'm gonna give you a chance, uh, to attend a, uh, a death row execution of your choosing. That's right.

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[00:25:35] And they have partnered up with us and we are gonna give you. Two free execution tickets. Just go to DeadNation.com/HDTGM and use the promo code Bonkers at checkout. That's DeadNation.com/HDTGM and use the promo code Bonkers. Terms and conditions apply. Offer only available for executions in the city of Philadelphia, and the execution must occur at the same time as your daughter or nieces cello recital.

[00:26:04] Alright, uh, congratulations anonymous. I hope you enjoy that live execution brought to you by our friends over at Dead Nation. All right. What an amazing prize. And you know what? Don't worry people, just because you didn't win this week doesn't mean that there won't be another chance to win an amazing, completely real prize next time.

[00:26:26] Alright. Remember, submit your comments, your queries about the episode that we're doing, and if you have something as good as the Al Pacino story, uh, please bring it there. And I gotta say, I know that it was tough to beat our anonymous person, but I really do appreciate our good friend Sean McBee for reading the script and telling us where the movie actually made sense.

[00:26:44] And I'm always flabbergasted when they change things that make sense. Anyway, you all are amazing and coming up after the break, we are gonna be joined by Jason Mantzoukas. We're gonna chat about Tv, music, movies and everything. But first, take a listen to this bonus deleted scene from our Law Abiding Citizen live show where we go off on a tangent and we talk about the late great Philip Seymour Hoffman.

[00:27:09] Jason Mantzoukas: We just did a movie that had Philip Hoffman as he was credited.

[00:27:14] Adam Pally: Right. 

[00:27:14] Jason Mantzoukas: His first screen roll. 

[00:27:15] Adam Pally: Mm-hmm. 

[00:27:16] Jason Mantzoukas: Which was as a high school student, and it was absolutely bananas. 

[00:27:20] Adam Pally: Really. 

[00:27:20] Paul Scheer: It was. 

[00:27:21] Jason Mantzoukas: My, My Boyfriend's Back is the movie and I cannot recommend it enough. 

[00:27:24] Adam Pally: On the queue. 

[00:27:25] Paul Scheer: It was. He was doing almost a comedian de art performance. It's like hat backwards. Like, what's up man? 

[00:27:32] Jason Mantzoukas: It's, it's, it's straight clown work. 

[00:27:34] Adam Pally: I mean, I love, look, I love Philip Seymour Hoffman. 

[00:27:36] Paul Scheer: Sure. 

[00:27:37] Adam Pally: I love Philip Seymour Hoffman. Uh, but as you go back through the catalog, there are a lot of moments where you're like, the dude is chewing the scene.

[00:27:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Chomp, chomp, chomp.

[00:27:50] Adam Pally: He's, he's, he, the way he's eating everything at lunch and then everything during the second half of the day. 

[00:27:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Give it me, give it to me. 

[00:27:56] Adam Pally: Because he, he, like, I saw like a clip of him in that movie with Ethan Hawke. The Devil Knows You. 

[00:28:00] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my god. This movie. 

[00:28:02] Adam Pally: And I remember loving that movie when I was like, I think, yeah. Who wrote that movie? Is that The Palmer? 

[00:28:06] Jason Mantzoukas: It's Mette. Lanette. Sydney Lamette. 

[00:28:07] Adam Pally: I remember loving that movie. And then when you.

[00:28:09] Jason Mantzoukas: I think it's his last movie.

[00:28:10] Adam Pally: When you go back and watch it, now. There are so many of those, like bad improv where like actors do improv, they don't know how, and they, they're just talking about like, yeah, it's nice day out, huh. Nice day. 

[00:28:22] Jason Mantzoukas: I saw Ethan Hawk tell a great story about that movie that every morning Lamette would come to his tra, each of the, he would come and talk to them. Kind of talk to 'em about their characters, but, and just kind of anecdotally to Ethan Hawk kept mentioning just how incredible Philip Seymour Hoffman was coming off in the dailies.

[00:28:39] He's like, wow, we're watching the dailies. And Phil is so good. He's really, it's, he's just going to places that I've never seen him go before. And Ethan Hawk was just getting more and more.

[00:28:48] Paul Scheer: Oh wow. 

[00:28:49] Jason Mantzoukas: Like aggressive and uptight. And so I was so angry about it. And so he would come in trying to be bigger and badder, and then finds out that, uh, Lamette's going to Philip Seymour Hoffman and saying the same thing about Ethan.

[00:29:00] Paul Scheer: I love it. 

[00:29:01] Jason Mantzoukas: So they confront Lamette. He is like, ah, you guys are so easy to fuck with. 

[00:29:05] Adam Pally: It's like, yeah, and if you go watch that movie, they're both at a 10. 

[00:29:08] Jason Mantzoukas: And, and Sydnee Lamette is like 92 when he made this movie.

[00:29:12] Adam Pally: Truly, maybe he couldn't hear them otherwise. 

[00:29:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Truly.

[00:29:17] Paul Scheer: Welcome back. I'm sure you notice every week we re-release old How Did This Get Made episodes back into our feed. These matinee episodes come out every Tuesday. In honor of the movie's 40th anniversary, this week's matinee is on the BMX Classic. Uh, it is a film that for many years was unavailable, but now it's back in theaters.

[00:29:39] I'm talking about Rad. That's right. So go see Rad this Sunday, March 22nd. See it live. Then listen to our episode afterwards and keep on checking out all of our replays of classic episodes every Tuesday. And now without any further ado, it is time to welcome Jason to Last Looks for a little Just Chat. Rob from Long Island. Play us in.

[00:30:04] Music: [Just Chat Theme Song]

[00:30:04] Paul Scheer: Jason. What's up? 

[00:30:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Paul, you know what, boy, I've got a list of stuff that I've been watching and listening to and reading. 

[00:30:12] Paul Scheer: I am excited. I got books. I got music. I got it. 

[00:30:17] Jason Mantzoukas: We've got news. I think we, we have to start now. This puts a little bit of a timestamp on when we're recording this. 

[00:30:23] Paul Scheer: Mm-hmm. 

[00:30:23] Jason Mantzoukas: So this is now going to be slightly old news, but I think it's imperative that you and I talk about the fact that Gerard Butler is no longer making Plane Two.

[00:30:34] Paul Scheer: What I did not know about this. 

[00:30:36] Jason Mantzoukas: They have canceled the sequel to our beloved Planes. And are now no longer making Plane Two. 

[00:30:43] Paul Scheer: No. 

[00:30:44] Jason Mantzoukas: I believe this is a story that I just recently read. Um, so, uh, it is not great. 

[00:30:48] Paul Scheer: Well, you know, by the way, it was never gonna be called Plane Two. It was gonna called. 

[00:30:51] Jason Mantzoukas: It was gonna be called Train, I believe.

[00:30:52] Paul Scheer: Oh, Ship. 

[00:30:53] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh No. Boat, Boat. 

[00:30:54] Paul Scheer: Ship. 

[00:30:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Ship. 

[00:30:57] Paul Scheer: Two weeks before production began. 

[00:30:59] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. Isn't that? What a bummer. 

[00:31:01] Paul Scheer: And apparently Gerard Butler, I'm looking at this, like just pulled out. He is like, I don't, I don't wanna do it. 

[00:31:05] Jason Mantzoukas: I, I, I gotta think that's a mistake. I don't know what he's up to. 

[00:31:09] Paul Scheer: I wonder if he. Look. He knows what he's good at.

[00:31:14] Jason Mantzoukas: He does. 

[00:31:14] Paul Scheer: And he might have felt like it just didn't have the juice. 

[00:31:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Maybe it wasn't there. I don't know. Because playing to me was so, was gangbusters. 

[00:31:21] Paul Scheer: Oh. 

[00:31:22] Jason Mantzoukas: You know. 

[00:31:22] Paul Scheer: Yeah. 

[00:31:22] Jason Mantzoukas: I, I don't know if you, I tried to watch Greenland two and it wasn't working for me. Um, the Greenland movies are a little too dramatic, uh, for me. They're not as fun. Um. 

[00:31:33] Paul Scheer: I mean, it was supposed to pick up like right where Plane ended and go right to Ship. Uh. Yeah, and that's GB bass. I can talk to our friends over at GB Base, we have some friends, uh, in the Gerard Butler world. We gotta figure out what is. 

[00:31:48] Jason Mantzoukas: I wanna, what is what I'm so, so curious. But there is, I mean, the great news is there's no shortage of fantastic stuff to watch. I'm gonna recommend that people watch the new Jason Statham movie Shelter, um, which I think is an absolute blast in the John Wick just straight. Not just John Wick, but like in many of the other Jason Statham movies, it doesn't have the absurdity of a Beekeeper, but it has like a very good propulsive action movie.

[00:32:16] Paul Scheer: Oh, alright. I'm excited. 

[00:32:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Very fun. Very good. Dark Wind is back, baby. Dark Winds. 

[00:32:22] Paul Scheer: So everyone loves this show.

[00:32:24] Jason Mantzoukas: My favorite show on TV right now. 

[00:32:26] Paul Scheer: Wow. 

[00:32:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Stop. I think this is the most slept on show, uh, on television, I think. And there's lots of great stuff on TV right now, to be clear. Yeah, yeah. Uh, and uh, I just think this is season to season so consistent, so good and such a fantastic world example of world building that I cannot recommend it enough. It is an, it is an amazing show. And the new season, dun, dun, dun. Titus Wellover is in it. 

[00:32:53] Paul Scheer: So I heard about that. And that's, and that's, and you know, Molly. 

[00:32:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Get on board. 

[00:32:56] Paul Scheer: Molly, who is, uh, one of the producers of How Did This Get Made is a Dark Winds, uh, fan. Oh. And so she is singing its praises. I gotta it, I gotta get in. I gotta get in. 

[00:33:05] Jason Mantzoukas: It's so good. You cannot. 

[00:33:06] Paul Scheer: It's got all my favorite people. 

[00:33:07] Jason Mantzoukas: It's got everybody in it is fantastic, and it's based on books in that way that a lot of times I find that sometimes I'm reluctant to commit to something because I'm worried it will get worse as time goes on. 

[00:33:19] Paul Scheer: Yes. 

[00:33:19] Jason Mantzoukas: Allah Game of Thrones or something like that. But this is based on books and everybody seems to think that they're doing an incredible job similar to like a Slow Horses taking those books and making great seasons of television out of them. I, and so I cannot recommend it enough. 

[00:33:34] Paul Scheer: I am. I will recommend a book that I just read that was fantastic. And it's a novella, so, uh, you know, easier to like, so.

[00:33:44] Jason Mantzoukas: It's a shorty.

[00:33:45] Paul Scheer: Yeah. So for people who, you know, I'm right now. I jumped into a big book, which I am loving, but I also know, like I'm gonna be here for a long time, uh, which is Joe Hill's book called King Sorrow, which is, I am about 200 pages in and I'm loving it, but I'm in, that's about a, that's like about a thousand pager.

[00:34:03] I'm I gonna, I'm gonna. 

[00:34:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, whoa. 

[00:34:04] Paul Scheer: Yeah. I'm gonna, I will get through it. But by the way, uh, also a funny thing that somebody had said, oh, I didn't know, uh, you know, like I'm a big fan of Joe's father and I always said. Oh, who's that? And they're like, Stephen King. And I was like, what? 

[00:34:16] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah. 

[00:34:17] Paul Scheer: And then I looked at the back cover and I was like, oh, he looks like I never knew I was a fan of Lock and Key.

[00:34:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes, I remember. I remember finding that out as well. Years and years after I knew Joe Hill stuff.

[00:34:27] Paul Scheer: Yeah. 

[00:34:27] Jason Mantzoukas: No, I agree. 

[00:34:28] Paul Scheer: I was totally shocked. So the book that I read that I really. 

[00:34:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Nepo baby, he's. Yeah. I don't read Joe Hill 'cause he's a nepo baby. 

[00:34:37] Paul Scheer: Um, this is what I'll say. This book, if you go and pick it up, I think you'll love it. It is called A Short Stay In Hell. 

[00:34:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay. 

[00:34:45] Paul Scheer: By Stephen L. Peck. I don't want to tell you anything about it. 

[00:34:48] Jason Mantzoukas: Great. 

[00:34:49] Paul Scheer: Uh, it's, it's going to, you can read it in afternoon if you'd like. Um, it is so. I couldn't, I, I, I couldn't get, wow. I couldn't get enough of it. I just thought it was such an interesting, it's like a horror. I mean, people call it a horror. I don't think of it as a horror. I just felt like it was like a psychological great, uh, trip. Really fun. So Short Stay in Hell is what I got here. 

[00:35:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Awesome. Oh, I love that. Um, I can't remember if I shouted it out last time, but there's a couple of books. That, uh, audio books that I've listened to lately that I thought were all fantastic. Um, but to the two that I'm gonna shout out specifically, uh, were shouted out on the Action Boys podcast, one of which is the Ilena Douglas book. I Blame Dennis Harper. 

[00:35:30] Paul Scheer: Oh yes. 

[00:35:30] Jason Mantzoukas: Which is fantastic. And the other is the Able Ferrara, the director, April Ferrara, uh, uh, his book called Scene that he reads himself and is just, he's a character. His stories are insane. Uh, this was again another Ben Rogers, uh, Action Boys. Shout out. And it is a fantastic listen and it's short. 

[00:35:51] Paul Scheer: Oh, okay. I'm gonna put that on my list now. I know that you probably haven't had a chance to watch it yet 'cause it just came out, uh, but I highly recommend. Chris Flemming's special.

[00:36:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, I haven't seen it. 

[00:36:02] Paul Scheer: Chris, Chris Flemming has a brand new special. If you don't know Chris Fleming, I mean, he's getting a lot of traction right now as being like one of the most fearless comedians. I think that's like, that's a la like there's a great, uh, New York profile of him, which I agree with all, like, I, I, I just think he is insanely silly. Yeah. And funny. And, um, he's just got an energy unlike anyone else. It made me feel the same way. I felt like when we talked about Sarah Sherman, uh 

[00:36:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah. 

[00:36:30] Paul Scheer: Like watching that special. This is a. T to B. Great special. And he's so good. And if you're in LA you could check catch, catch him at Largo.

[00:36:38] He's always kind of popping up at Largo. And one of the cool things about Chris Fleming, he releases so much shit online. Uh, 'cause he is like, oh yeah, that's might be funny tonight. And they may never be funny again. So, so he is a lot of like quick bits you can kind of get into. But it is a great, great special directed by uh, Bill Bens. But the best he, this thing. 

[00:36:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Love Bill Bens. 

[00:36:58] Paul Scheer: Made me laugh. Uh, so, so hard. Um, and, uh, it's the new one I gotta remember. I think it's called. 

[00:37:05] Jason Mantzoukas: I love that. 

[00:37:06] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Live at the palace. Yeah. 

[00:37:07] Jason Mantzoukas: I can't remember what it's called. And this is the opposite end of the spectrum because I feel like, uh, um, Chris Fleming is on the up. This person has been there for a while. Kat Williams' new special once again, being taped in Florida and is absolutely nuts.

[00:37:24] Paul Scheer: I, I saved that one. I'm ready for that. 

[00:37:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Um, just a couple of other, like be, because we sometimes will talk about comedy. 

[00:37:31] Paul Scheer: Yeah. 

[00:37:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Will Hines has got a substack. 

[00:37:34] Paul Scheer: Oh yes. I love that substack. 

[00:37:35] Jason Mantzoukas: Great substack. If you're at all interested in improv, improv comedy, the LA comedy scene, anything like that, I can't recommend it enough. And then he, and Ian Roberts do a YouTube series that is improvised scenes where there're just two guys meeting for dinner, for coffee. 

[00:37:52] Paul Scheer: Yes. 

[00:37:52] Jason Mantzoukas: And they do scene and they just do scenes based on it.

[00:37:55] And it's all on YouTube. And a lot of it is very funny and worth watching, and I can't remember what it's called, but it's, uh, Will Hines and Ian Roberts YouTube. You'll find it. 

[00:38:03] Paul Scheer: I, well, I have a, I have a, a musical thing for you because, you know, some fans have reached out to me and said, you know, Paul, here's something you could let Jason know about.

[00:38:12] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay. 

[00:38:13] Paul Scheer: Because you can kind of surprise Jason with your knowledge. I was recommended, uh, this band, the Twisted Teens, they're, they're a Australian, uh, like kind of rock band. 

[00:38:25] Jason Mantzoukas: Great. 

[00:38:25] Paul Scheer: And I love it. It is great. 

[00:38:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Awesome. 

[00:38:27] Paul Scheer: Twisted Teens on Spotify. I've really been enjoying it. They have a handful of albums out, uh, and, uh. 

[00:38:34] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay.

[00:38:34] Paul Scheer: They're, they're French Indie. 

[00:38:36] Jason Mantzoukas: Great. 

[00:38:37] Paul Scheer: Yeah. 

[00:38:37] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm gonna check it out. Okay. I love that. Um, while we're on music, I'll shout out a couple of more, uh, albums that have come out recently that I think are fantastic. Snow Caps is a band that has, uh, the Crutchfield Sisters, um, uh, Katie Crutchfield, you might know as Waxahatchee.

[00:38:54] Um, her sister was in the band Swearing and has put out solo records of her own. Um. Uh, Snow Caps is them working together, and boy, it is incredible. The record is phenomenal. 

[00:39:06] Paul Scheer: Yeah. 

[00:39:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Um, Juliana Barwick and Mary Latimore have released an album together called Tragic Magic that is absolutely stunningly beautiful.

[00:39:15] Also, the artist, Ichico Ayoba uh, I hope I'm saying that right. The is put out a record last year called Luminescent Creatures that I cannot stop listening to. That is like completely wormed. Its way into my entire year so far. 

[00:39:31] Paul Scheer: Ooh. 

[00:39:31] Jason Mantzoukas: And is fantastic. New album from Dry Cleaning, new album from Dancer, A found song, a new song from one of my favorite, uh, bands or one of my favorite, uh, uh, Glasgow Scotland Bands, Life Without Buildings. They found and remastered a song that would never been released. Get involved. It's fantastic. 

[00:39:50] Paul Scheer: Whoa. All right. 

[00:39:52] Jason Mantzoukas: There's a new, there's a new Greenhouse album about to come out, probably out by now, and there's a new band that I love called Careful In the Sun that just put out a new record and it's fantastic.

[00:40:02] Paul Scheer: Oh, wow. These are, this is all right. This is a good. List of people. Yeah. 

[00:40:05] Jason Mantzoukas: Just because I mentioned Rish Ksh Hiway recommended Apothecary Diaries to me. 

[00:40:10] Paul Scheer: Mm-hmm. 

[00:40:10] Jason Mantzoukas: He does Song Exploder, which is one of my favorite music based podcasts. Yes. But inside the Song Exploder Feed, he's doing a new podcast called Key Change, where he interviews someone about a song that changed their life. And that is also a fantastic new podcast that I think is worth. 

[00:40:29] Paul Scheer: Oh, I love that. 

[00:40:30] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. 

[00:40:31] Paul Scheer: Alright. Wow. You've given me some really good things off the bat and I thought I was coming in with Twisted Teams. I felt really good. 

[00:40:37] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm excited to shake. 

[00:40:38] Paul Scheer: You know, I mean, I hope, I hope.

[00:40:39] Jason Mantzoukas: I, because all my stuff is mellow and I was just thinking the other day, I need some new bands.

[00:40:44] Paul Scheer: I know that's. 

[00:40:44] Jason Mantzoukas: 'Cause a lot of my stuff is, is like really chill, like quiet music. 

[00:40:48] Paul Scheer: Yeah. 

[00:40:49] Jason Mantzoukas: I'll, I'll jump back to TV for a brief moment. And say that one of my favorite all time showrunner creators is Steve Conrad who made Patriots. 

[00:40:57] Paul Scheer: I was gonna ask about this. Yes. 

[00:40:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Perpetual Grace Limited and his new show, DTF St. Louis is out now. Um, a couple of episodes are out now by now. Absolutely incredible show in like straight off the bat in incredible show. 

[00:41:11] Paul Scheer: I am so excited about this and I was, I didn't realize it was same guy. And there was a show that he made after Patriot that I also didn't realize that he made that I was like, oh, this is uh, 

[00:41:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Perpetual Grace Limited, or Ultra City Smiths?

[00:41:24] Paul Scheer: City Smiths was the one I, yes.

[00:41:26] Jason Mantzoukas: And I was like, it's the stop motion animation. 

[00:41:27] Paul Scheer: Yes. 

[00:41:28] Jason Mantzoukas: And it's fantastic. 

[00:41:29] Paul Scheer: So I gotta, I gotta catch up on this. You know, it's tricky 'cause my wife does not like to watch, uh, anything that is written, uh, we are just trying to solve cold cases. We're trying to, yeah, we're trying to get to the bottom of cases that have already been solved. Uh, but now she's outta town, so she is outta town. And I got, I got free reign of the TV every night. 

[00:41:49] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay. I mean, there's a lot to see. Have you watched the, the Dunk and Egg the Knight of the Seven Kingdoms? The new Game of Throne series? 

[00:41:57] Paul Scheer: I don don't even know what that is. 

[00:41:59] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, interesting. So, um, so actually this counts as both a TV show recommendation and a book recommendation.

[00:42:07] So this is the, and actually this is related to Steve Conrad because he wrote the original adaptation of this and was then taken off and rewritten. But there's a series of novellas that George RR Martin wrote for the characters of Dunk and Egg. 

[00:42:23] Paul Scheer: Okay. 

[00:42:24] Jason Mantzoukas: And, and it's a knight and his squire. And unlike Game of Thrones, which is palace intrigue and dozens and dozens of characters and all these moving parts. This is the exact opposite. 

[00:42:36] Paul Scheer: Okay. 

[00:42:36] Jason Mantzoukas: This is small scale storytelling, just these two characters, and each novellas is like a couple of hours long. 

[00:42:44] Paul Scheer: Ooh. 

[00:42:44] Jason Mantzoukas: And so I listen to all the novellas on audiobook. Like you can finish it in 10 hours, I think. 

[00:42:50] Paul Scheer: Oh wow. Okay. 

[00:42:51] Jason Mantzoukas: And they just did season one of a TV series, only six episodes that covers the events of the first novella and it's dynamite. It's such a good watch. It's so fun. It's funny. Um, it is exactly the kind of Game of Thrones story that I would enjoy, um, because it's not sprawl. The House of Dragons is too cr I, I don't know what's going on. There's too much. 

[00:43:14] Paul Scheer: Right, right. Just see. Yeah, I get that.

[00:43:15] Jason Mantzoukas: It's too much. So this is much smaller and really fun and I recommend it both as worth listening to the audio book and also the show is terrific.

[00:43:24] Paul Scheer: You know, if you are at this moment struggling and being, I have to write all this stuff down, don't worry about it. It's always in the show notes. Uh, we have been doing a very good job of that. Also, if you go on the Discord, you can kind of jump in there. And see what's uh, happening. 

[00:43:38] Jason Mantzoukas: Unless it's been disconnected.

[00:43:39] Paul Scheer: I mean, is that, oh, you. 

[00:43:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, go ahead. 

[00:43:41] Paul Scheer: I was gonna say, I have a little, like a, a sneak peek to get excited about. 

[00:43:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay. 

[00:43:45] Paul Scheer: My friend, who I think we talked about on the, uh, Shoot Em Up episode, Ben David Grabinski. A director who was behind the Scott Pilgrim aime Show on Netflix. 

[00:43:53] Jason Mantzoukas: Loved it. 

[00:43:54] Paul Scheer: Also did a movie with me and Joe McHale a couple years ago. It has a brand new movie coming out called Mike and Nick and Nick and Alice. Uh, it is with Vince Vaughn and James Marsden and I got to see an early screening. I'm actually even hosting a screening here in Los Angeles, uh, probably right around the time that you're hearing this. Uh, and it is great. 

[00:44:16] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, nice. 

[00:44:17] Paul Scheer: Fun.

[00:44:18] Jason Mantzoukas: I love that. 

[00:44:18] Paul Scheer: Vince Vaughn time travel movie. I'm not spoiling anything because they're in the tra trailer, but, uh, Vince Vaughn from the future travels a, a little while, not, not tremendously far back to Vince Vaughn, like maybe a couple weeks earlier and it's a gangster, shoot him up. 

[00:44:34] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, cool. 

[00:44:34] Paul Scheer: It, there's scenes in it that remind me of like drunken master, uh. 

[00:44:38] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.

[00:44:39] Paul Scheer: James Marsden is awesome. And it's just like. Also like, um, Elisa Gonzalez is in it, right? 

[00:44:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. 

[00:44:45] Paul Scheer: And it's also, uh, Jimmy Trow. Keith David. It's a cool. 

[00:44:50] Jason Mantzoukas: This sounds great. 

[00:44:51] Paul Scheer: Cast. Yes. And it's gonna be, uh, exclusively on Hulu. It's gonna be premiering at South by Southwest, uh, as well. Watch the trailer because the trailer, the trailer, if the trailer gets you pumped. And it does for me. 'cause it definitely has a, has an Andrew WK drop in it as well. Uh, okay. It. 

[00:45:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh nice. 

[00:45:06] Paul Scheer: It is, it's a fun one. Uh, so March 27th on Hulu is when this one comes out. 

[00:45:10] Jason Mantzoukas: I love that. I'm also gonna shout out, thank you, Joanna Robinson from House of R for recommending the TV show Lovesick, the British sitcom Lovesick that has. 

[00:45:20] Paul Scheer: Oh, i've seen this. Yes. I like this. Yes. 

[00:45:22] Jason Mantzoukas: There only a couple of episodes, but a couple of seasons rather, but is fantastic. And I just watched all of that. And then in movies. Have you, I watched The Rip, of course. 

[00:45:32] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah. I love The Rip. 

[00:45:32] Jason Mantzoukas: Affleck and Damon. But have you watched, which I thought you would like, Secret Mall Apartment.

[00:45:38] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah. 

[00:45:38] Jason Mantzoukas: The documentary. 

[00:45:39] Paul Scheer: Oh, I was up on that and I, we haven't talked about it and I love it. 

[00:45:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Gimme this all day. 

[00:45:43] Paul Scheer: It is. 

[00:45:44] Jason Mantzoukas: All I want is this. 

[00:45:45] Paul Scheer: It is so fun. So weird. 

[00:45:48] Jason Mantzoukas: Yep. 

[00:45:48] Paul Scheer: I think they were even doing a screening of it in the mall or they have like a. 

[00:45:52] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, that's funny. 

[00:45:53] Paul Scheer: Yeah, they've been doing like some fun things. It should get more attention, but now it's out streaming in a, I think probably on HBO Max at this point. 

[00:45:59] Jason Mantzoukas: Uh, I think I saw it on Netflix. Maybe. 

[00:46:02] Paul Scheer: Okay. Maybe that's what it is. That's a really. 

[00:46:05] Jason Mantzoukas: So, so good. Um, I can't recommend it enough. I had a blast watching it. 

[00:46:09] Paul Scheer: I was gonna say, you know what I really enjoyed, it's a really fun, if you're in the mood for like, it's not a, How Did This Get Made movie. Because it's, it's quite effective. But it has those elements that make it kind of fun, which is The Housemaid. Paul, uh, Paul Feeds. 

[00:46:22] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, haven't seen it. I'm excited. 

[00:46:23] Paul Scheer: It is fun as hell. Yeah. Uh, I'm really like, I really. I really dug it and, um. 

[00:46:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Great. 

[00:46:31] Paul Scheer: Uh, and June and I were watching it and just fully caught up in it.

[00:46:36] Yeah. Silly.

[00:46:37] Jason Mantzoukas: I love that. 

[00:46:37] Paul Scheer: And not silly, but like can't be in the best possible. 

[00:46:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, no, it looks like it's a fun time, which I all I want. 

[00:46:42] Paul Scheer: And I gotta say, I may have said this out here and I'll say it again because goddam it, I believe it, uh, Amanda Siegfried running one of the best careers in the game. 

[00:46:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah.

[00:46:51] Paul Scheer: Like, she's just killing it. 

[00:46:52] Jason Mantzoukas: And turned up on one of the YouTube sent me some video of her playing Otto Harp and singing Joni Mitchell songs on some late night talk show, and I was like, fuck. 

[00:47:02] Paul Scheer: Yeah man. 

[00:47:03] Jason Mantzoukas: This is incredible as well. What happen? 

[00:47:04] Paul Scheer: She's cool as hell. 

[00:47:05] Jason Mantzoukas: What is happening here? 

[00:47:06] Paul Scheer: Very cool lady.

[00:47:07] Jason Mantzoukas: I'll shut out some YouTube stuff. Raga is live the, uh, Indian, classical music and other experimental music festival that happens every year in New York. This year's festival is all on YouTube now, and I cannot recommend it enough. One incredible performance after another. Raaga is live. 

[00:47:23] Paul Scheer: Mm-hmm. 

[00:47:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Um, I'm really digging The Iron Snail, uh, which is this guy who lives in Maine and who does like long form, uh, uh, YouTube essays that are about clothes and old school clothing companies or what it is to build like a, what it is to have different kind of wool sweater. And why are, why are our sweaters falling apart and what used to be a. 

[00:47:45] Paul Scheer: Well, they're not falling apart if you get 'em at quince.

[00:47:47] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh boy. Here we go. 

[00:47:48] Paul Scheer: I just wanna say Jason, like if you want, uh, here's the thing. They are able to cut out the middleman anyway. I don't wanna, Hey, like I don't, I don't need to sell you on it. Uh, but if you do, go there, use that offer code Bonkers, and you'll get stuff that's not gonna fall apart. I'll guarantee you there's gonna be a YouTube show about how do they make this stuff.

[00:48:09] Jason Mantzoukas: The show that I'm looking for, that the show that I need the fans help someone find this and send it to me please, is the British Sitcom Movie Club. Can't find it. 

[00:48:19] Paul Scheer: Oh wow. Okay. 

[00:48:19] Jason Mantzoukas: Anywhere. It looks great. I wanna watch the TV show, Movie Club. So can you please find it? 

[00:48:25] Paul Scheer: Alright. 

[00:48:25] Jason Mantzoukas: And also, I was a guest on the Hank Green YouTube show called Ask Hank Anything.

[00:48:30] Paul Scheer: Oh wow. 

[00:48:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Um, that was an absolute blast. So go watch it, please. I love that. He asked me to ask him lots of questions that were like, science-based and stuff like that, and I did, and he had answers. 

[00:48:41] Paul Scheer: Oh, I love that. Uh, Jason, uh, what a pleasure. 

[00:48:44] Jason Mantzoukas: We did it. 

[00:48:44] Paul Scheer: We will, uh, we'll talk soon. Um, and, uh. 

[00:48:48] Jason Mantzoukas: Cannot wait. 

[00:48:48] Paul Scheer: Yeah, cannot wait.

[00:48:48] Uh, always a blast. Thank you Jason for popping in and a reminder that we put the entire list of our recommendations in this episode's show notes. So take a look there if you can't remember something you wanted to check out. Alright, it is now finally time to announce our next film Next week we are going from a prison inmate to hips that gyrate.

[00:49:06] That's right. We'll be watching 1990s The Forbidden Dance starring the former Miss USA Laura Herring. Uh, IMDB breaks in the plot by saying

[00:49:17] "A Brazilian princess tries to save the rainforest by introducing America to the electrifying exotic Lambada."

[00:49:24] Uh, rotten Tomatoes gave this film a 25% score on the tomato meter, and John Perellis from the New York Times wrote in his review,

[00:49:31] "Its dance sequences are barely sexier than a bowling tournament, but connoisseurs of clunky dialogue and shameless continuity lapses should look no further."

[00:49:40] And you know what, John, you are right and that means it's a perfect film for us. Take a listen to the trailer. 

[00:49:46] Trailer Audio: From the jungles of the Amazon to the heart of America, only one dance can turn feeling into rhythm. Strangers into lovers. Passion into fury.

[00:50:02] She is hot.

[00:50:04] The danger behind the beat, the magic behind the music, The Forbidden Dance. 

[00:50:14] Paul Scheer: You can stream the Forbidden Dance on Tubi or rent it at all the usual places. Now we are gonna discuss this more within our episode, but heads up there is another movie about the Lombatta that came out in 1990 on the same exact day that is called Lambada.

[00:50:29] Make sure you watch The Forbidden Dance, not Lambada, okay? It's tricky. The Forbidden Dance.

[00:50:35] Anyway, that is a wrap on Last Looks. If you listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, please rate and review us and also make sure you are following us and have automatic downloads turned on. It helps the show. It helps the show. Make sure you have automatic downloads turned on and, I gotta tell you, we appreciate it. Visit us on social media, leave comments, do all that good stuff. And a big thank you to our producer, Scott Sonne, Molly Reynolds, our engineer, Casey Holford, our social media manager, Zoe Applebaum, our intern Quinn Jennings.

[00:51:01] And of course, we will forever be thankful to the one and only Avaryll Halley. We'll see you next week for The Forbidden Dance.