An FBI profiler, military detective, and physics teacher all chime in with A+ corrections & omissions on last week's Mindhunters episode! Plus, Jason and Paul recommend a bunch of stuff they're currently loving, from books and documentaries to a bonkers Taco Bell TV special. And as always, Paul announces the movie we'll be covering on next week's episode. JASON & PAUL'S MOVIE/TV RECS: Miller’s Crossing Bookish Taco Bell's Live Más Live 2026 Jujutsu Kaisen Sentenced to Be a Hero Frieren: Beyond Journey's End Paddy Chayefsky: Collector of Words Breslin and Hamill: Deadline Artists JASON & PAUL'S BOOK RECS: Star Wars: Sanctuary (A Bad Batch Novel) Strangers: A Memoir of Marriage by Belle Burden JASON & PAUL'S COMIC BOOK RECS: Batman by Matt Fraction & Jorge Jiménez The Avengers in the Veracity Trap! by Chip Kidd The Super Hero’s Journey by Patrick McDonnell Batman: The Cult Deluxe Edition by Jim Starlin The Furry Trap by Josh Simmons Dream of the Bat by Josh Simmons One Hand and The Six Fingers by Ram V Dawnrunner by Ram V
An FBI profiler, military detective, and physics teacher all chime in with A+ corrections & omissions on last week's Mindhunters episode! Plus, Jason and Paul recommend a bunch of stuff they're currently loving, from books and documentaries to a bonkers Taco Bell TV special. And as always, Paul announces the movie we'll be covering on next week's episode.
JASON & PAUL'S MOVIE/TV RECS:
Taco Bell's Live Más Live 2026
Paddy Chayefsky: Collector of Words
Breslin and Hamill: Deadline Artists
JASON & PAUL'S BOOK RECS:
Star Wars: Sanctuary (A Bad Batch Novel)
Strangers: A Memoir of Marriage by Belle Burden
JASON & PAUL'S COMIC BOOK RECS:
Batman by Matt Fraction & Jorge Jiménez
The Avengers in the Veracity Trap! by Chip Kidd
The Super Hero’s Journey by Patrick McDonnell
Batman: The Cult Deluxe Edition by Jim Starlin
The Furry Trap by Josh Simmons
Dream of the Bat by Josh Simmons
One Hand and The Six Fingers by Ram V
[00:00:00] Paul Scheer: This week an FBI profiler a military detective and a physics teacher all call to add their 2 cents on a movie that no one could make sense of. Plus, we will find out how Mindhunters ripped off Agatha Christie. And guess what? People, it's time to go back to 1987 because Black Monday is on Netflix.
[00:00:24] That's right. All this and more on a brand new How Did This Get Made Last Looks, hit the theme!
[00:00:44] Music: [Last Looks Intro Song]
[00:01:09] Paul Scheer: Hello to all my Mindhunters. Welcome to Last Looks. I am Paul Scheer, where you, the listener, get to voice your issue on Mindhunters, a movie that Discord user, Sean McBee thinks should have had the tagline,
[00:01:22] "Mindhunters: Their only weakness, bullets."
[00:01:29] Thank you Sean McBee for that amazing tagline, which of course is a reference to LL Cool J's amazing one-liner after killing Johnny Lee Miller.
[00:01:38] I don't remember it to be, uh, quite honest with you. I mean, I laughed at it because I thought it was funny, but don't remember that that's a reference at all. And that's why Sean Mcbe is the champ. He doesn't need you to remember the movie. He just needs to get ya. He got me, uh, a big shout out to Chris Cheney for that opening theme song.
[00:01:55] Chris, you killed it. Remember, if you have an alt movie tagline, you can submit it to us on our discord at Discord.gg/HDTGM. And if you have a Last Looks theme song like Chris, you can, uh, just go to HDTGM.com and click on the submit a song button on our homepage. Remember, keep 'em short. 15 to 20 seconds is best.
[00:02:13] If you don't remember any of that stuff, just remember, just go to HDTGM.com. It's so easy. Everything is there. You got pictures, you got merch, you got episodes, and you even got links to the Discord. In my book, everything is there, so don't worry about writing it down 'cause I know everyone just reach for a pen and paper 'cause we're all just going analog.
[00:02:31] Uh, no, no, just go to HDTGM.com. You can remember that. Um, today. What are we gonna be doing? Well, I'll tell you, we're gonna stay pretty much on track to every single episode of this, uh, series, which is we're gonna go to your Corrections and Omissions on Mindhunters. Then, uh, Jason Mantzoukas, he is gonna pop in.
[00:02:50] We're gonna talk a bit about, guess what, stuff we like. And then of course I will reveal the movie for next week's episode. Now lastly, I'm going to play a phone call from our friend Garrett from Chicago. He called in with a question that kind of segues nicely into the last thing I wanted to plug. Uh, Garrett, what's on your mind?
[00:03:10] Listener: Hey Paul, I was just listening to the Last Looks Forbidden Dance, and you were saying that you couldn't get, uh, Black Monday anywhere. And then today I see it's coming on Netflix in like a week or two. Did that conversation have anything to do with that or did someone stronghold somebody after listening to that? Because it literally just came on there. All right. Just wondering. All right. Thanks guys. Great show. Love the show. Been listening to it for 15 years. Wow. All right. Bye
[00:03:39] Paul Scheer: Garrett. You are right. Netflix is now the home of Black Monday, three seasons of Black Monday on Netflix. It's me. It's Don Cheadle. It's Regina Hall.
[00:03:52] It's Andrew Rannels. It's Casey Wilson. It's June Diane Raphael. Eugene Cordero. Yassir Lester. The list goes on and on the first episode, uh, directed by Seth Rogan and Evan Goldberg. It looks amazing. It shot an anamorphic, which if you know anything, it looks pretty fucking cool. Uh, anyway, I love Black Monday.
[00:04:11] I just started rewatching it. I haven't watched it since it first came out, and the show really, uh, holds up and I hope more people find it. And I hope this is your chance to go check it out. Every season just gets more and more crazy. It's just jam packed with just amazing people, wall to wall, great performances.
[00:04:30] Um, so I hope you all like it and enjoy a little Black Monday, whatever day you put it on. Alright. Uh, that's all the plugs that I got. Oh, and was it my fault for saying it on Mindhunters? Yeah, probably. Uh, I'm sure Netflix, uh, heard me say it and then boom. I will say this. I did post a couple of things and I got a lot of responses.
[00:04:49] We've been kinda hitting a brick wall with that show for a long time, so I'm gonna say it's the power of How Did This Get Made so we can all embrace it. Um, alright, that is all I got for plugs. Let's get into it. Last week we talked at length about Mindhunters. Well, we had questions and we might have even missed a few things. Um, here is your chance to set us straight. Fact check us, if you will. It is now time for Corrections and Omissions.
[00:05:13] Music: [Corrections and Omissions Song]
[00:05:14] Paul Scheer: Thank you Dornheim for that theme song. Let's go to the Discord. The Mediocre Pumpkin writes
[00:05:19] "The end line where LL Cool J calls back to Val Kilmer's rule that the situation isn't secure until the ride home is frustrating for multiple reasons. June correctly said it's dumb because they're not actually on the ride home yet. It's also especially frustrating because LL wasn't even in the earlier scene when Val Kimer used that line. He also was not a part of the profiler training program. So how does he know?"
[00:05:49] Mediocre Pumpkin, you brought up a, a bunch of good points there. Could have so easily been switched to the other person. Um. Wow. It, it is shocking to me. A movie like this would make such a blunder, and the only answer I could say is he is the teacher. That's right. Val Kilmer is just a decoy. LL Cool J is actually teaching the class. Val Kilmer is his puppet, and that's the final reveal You see, you thought you found, oh, an omission. But what you, what you didn't realize was you revealed just how dumb you are. You didn't get the bigger point that LL was the teacher all along. It's right there for you. It's right there. How did you miss it? Hope no one else missed it.
[00:06:36] Dr. Gut's 1003 writes,
[00:06:37] "Presumably Val Kilmer had set up the island to have all sorts of clues to help the team profile and capture his imaginary puppeteer killer. So how come outside of the, you know, initial mannequin corpse crime scene, they never come across anything else that is connected to the simulated crime?"
[00:06:54] That's a great question. I would imagine it's because they are running for their lives. I mean, they are full on in panic mode. It would've been great if they found a clue and then realized it was just like a decoy clue. I would've liked that as like a twist, but I don't think this movie, uh, was smart enough to handle anything that complex. I think the minute a real serial killer is on the island, everything is out the window and, and we're off to the races. You would've thought that maybe Val Kilmer would've had a couple other people with them maybe hiding out on that.
[00:07:23] Nope. Nope. Nope. They, I mean, honestly, the Mindhunters should have killed some more innocent people, is what I'm saying. Uh, Dr. Guts also writes that, I thought it was worth mentioning that Renny Harlan dropped out of directing another How Did This Get Made classic, A Sound of Thunder to film Mindhunters instead.
[00:07:41] Ooh, interesting. If you don't remember A Sound of Thunder, I believe that that is the time travel movie where someone steps on a butterfly and then like they're running from dinosaurs. I, were they running from di there? There are dinosaurs and there's butterflies. I know that. I know that someone steps on a butterfly, but it's not the butterfly effect with.
[00:08:01] My man, the Kutch. um, Arkham Player writes,
[00:08:05] "I'm not exactly in shape, but as a wheelchair user, I question Vince's ability to hold himself up on the pipes for so long. Upper body strength in wheelchair users is kind of a myth unless you're training for like the Paralympics or a marathon. Wheelchairs are meant to make moving easier and not meant to be a device in which people improve their upper body strength. Now. I'm not saying I'm willing to test this out on MythBusters anytime soon, but the tires on a wheelchair are made of rubber. So Vince would've been grounded protecting him from getting shocked by electricity."
[00:08:39] Uh, wow. Uh, Arkham Player, first of all, thank you for giving us a, a really solid fact check. Yeah. I would imagine that the wheelchair for him is probably the safest place. Uh. Maybe I, I, I can't quite figure out the logic here either, except for the fact that they just wanted him to hang from pipes and, and that pipe scene was so exciting, I guess.
[00:09:03] Um, alright. Please do not test this theory out. Uh, Arkham Player already has told me he won't, but I don't want anyone else to try to electrocute themselves in a wheelchair. We will let the professionals deal with that. Alright, let's go to the phones with Jay from Ohio.
[00:09:20] Listener: Hey Paul, June and Jason, just a note on Mindhunters, you all remarked at the beginning about the scenario Val Kilmer put them in when he was more of a tactical exercise versus a profiling one. Uh, this is true. FBI profiler training is more psychological and the waiting part of catching killers would probably fall more to a dedicated FBI tactical unit or even a local law enforcement SWAT team. That said, uh, profilers are typically, uh, still special agents or criminal investigators who have arresting powers and are armed.
[00:09:47] Uh, depending on the nature of a warranted search, they may actually be the ones that doing the knocking on the door as well. They also do train on certain scenarios like. This where force may be required. Uh, they use simulated firearms that shoot chalk like projectiles, which I can say hurt like hell.
[00:10:01] Uh, I've actually assisted on some of these posing as anything from an aggressive protestor to a convenience store robber. Um, it's, it's actually kind of fun. Uh, that said, none of the training I have observed or taken part in was as elaborate as they said. And it seems like some fraud, waste, and abuse investigations are acquired on the part of, uh, Valcom character. So keep up the great work. Uh, PS Paul, my wife and I both love your book. Thanks. Bye.
[00:10:23] Paul Scheer: Oh man, Jay, thank you so much for reading my book. Um, also, whoa, these chalk pellets. Were you shooting them or were you getting shot with them? Either way. I guess what you're saying is this movie not really based in reality. Well. I was on your side, and then I got this phone call from my friend Stoddard. Stoddard, take it away.
[00:10:49] Listener: Hello Paul. This is about Mindhunters and where to begin. So many things to talk about, but there's one that I think I have a, a, a specific insight into. In the military, I was, uh, on a SWAT team and I was a, a detective, and when I went to the Detective Academy, they actually had a place called Scenarioville that was abandoned military housing.
[00:11:14] And in those houses, they would set up crime scenes with dummies and fake blood, sometimes with real blood if they wanted you to, to test, you know, use one of the kits to detect blood. Broken windows, uh, weapons or items laying around so that that way you would be able to go in and actually, you know, sketch your crime scene and make your measurements and, and, uh, and then take all your photographs and collect the crime scene, uh, evidence, uh, correctly.
[00:11:48] And uh, and that way you would be trained and you would be tested in the same area. And although it wasn't as elaborate as what is in the film, certainly. It was, uh, it was kind of crazy watching it and going, that's not that's far off. It's just, it's just cranked up to 11 is what they did in the film, and they just turned it up to 11.
[00:12:08] You know, it's, it was pretty crazy when I was doing it. I remember thinking, this is, this is kind of bizarre that they've just made an entire crime scene and then you've got instructors kind of standing around watching you or, or, uh, or they'd be watching you on a, on a camera, like in the movie. So, uh, yeah, there you go.
[00:12:28] A little inside information. Love the show. Take care.
[00:12:31] Paul Scheer: Scenarioville. Love it. I love, but it wasn't that like, it seems like what you're doing there is like crime scene, like evidence collecting that, that feels normal to me. I don't think that they create full on like, uh, like huntings, like they weren't sending you out to knock on doors, were they?
[00:12:50] Maybe they were. I don't know. I like Scenarioville. Like, uh, is it like Lars Van Trier's Dogville? Um, no. Uh, alright. This makes sense. The movie obviously based in reality, but guess what else? It's based in plagiarism. Check it out. Alwyn from London coming in hot. Take it away.
[00:13:13] Listener: Hi there. I was not familiar with Mindhunters before the most recent episode, but um, who I was familiar with was Agatha Christie's book And Then There Were None.
[00:13:22] And the more I listened to this week's episode, the more familiar some of the plot of elements of Mindhunter became, they're both about a group of people trapped in an island being picked off one by one by the killer, who is someone among them. And if it was just that, I probably wouldn't have thought about it, but it clicked for me when you mentioned on the pod, the way each person is killed in the movie plays on their vice, and in the Agatha Christie, each person is being punished for something terrible they've done. There's also the elements of each of the death being foreshadowed ominously before they happen in Mindhunter. It sounds like it's the clocks. In Christie's, it's with an eerie poem that the book takes the title from. There's also the tension of the group turning on each other as more people are eliminated and suspicions grow. And very specifically in both as a message projected over audio designed to scare people. And then finally, at the risk of spoiling the book, uh, there's a plot twist of the killer being someone who faked their own death about halfway through the killings only to return alive at the end. So it seems beyond the realm of coincidence at this point. I probably could find more if I watched the movie and I have to wonder if Mindhunters is actually just a way worse ripoff of Agatha Christie's, AndThen There Were None. Would love to hear your thoughts.
[00:14:28] Paul Scheer: Alwyn, you are. 100% right.
[00:14:31] This is a direct ripoff of And Then There Were None. And great job putting together those context clues. I've seen that. I didn't even put that together. I've seen it. Uh, well yeah, I've seen it. I didn't read it and I'm not gonna lie about that. I've seen the movie. Um, and you are completely right. So many websites call this out.
[00:14:51] Uh, I don't know how they got away with not, you know, saying it was based on that story, but I guess they added enough stuff to it, uh, that just kind of pushed that out of sight. I mean, enough serial killer tropes. And that's kind of what they were saying is that they overlaid a lot of nineties stuff on top of Agatha Christie.
[00:15:13] So all one way to go for being well read, uh, and getting it just from a few context clues. Uh, next up. And finally, Liz from Wisconsin.
[00:15:23] Listener: Hi Paul, June, and Jason, I just listened to the Mindhunters episode and I was listening to you talk about the liquid nitrogen attack. I'm a physics teacher and I, in college we did experiments with liquid nitrogen and I just thought I'd share a little bit about my experience there. Uh, because your instincts that it shouldn't do what it did in the movie are absolutely correct. It shouldn't have done really anything at all. Uh, it would evaporate really quickly. We used to have a, you know, a doer, like a cylinder full of liquid nitrogen to use for experiments and people would kind of dare each other to stick their hands in it and like, you shouldn't do that.
[00:16:01] Uh, and it was important to, you know, take off any rings or metal jewelry or we're wearing, uh. I never was quite brave enough to, but I saw my friends do it a number of times. You can stick your hand in liquid nitrogen and just pull it out real fast and you'll be totally fine. If it gets sprayed on your skin, it'll evaporate right away.
[00:16:18] Uh, so there's no scenario where anything close to what we saw, uh, would've happened there. So I just thought I would share that I have I personally seen people with liquid nitrogen on them, uh, and it did not creep up and freeze them and make them shatter. Uh, thanks for all you guys do love your podcast.
[00:16:35] Bye-bye.
[00:16:36] Paul Scheer: Liz, are you telling me this movie didn't know what the hell they were talking about? See, I appreciate this. I, this is a week where we get. Military detectives, we get FBI profilers. We get a literature person, we get physics teachers. This is the kind of content that I need, not just, oh, in one scene the button was open.
[00:16:58] No, no, no. I got fucking professionals here. Thank you, Liz. Thank you all and thank you, Stoddard. Thank you Jay. Um. It does bum me out, because then you're also, I guess, telling me that Terminator two, the ending to that is also flawed. No!
[00:17:15] Alright. Back to the Discord. Jango One writes,
[00:17:18] "What really irked me in this movie was the letters on the back of their jackets. There's a scene where all the jackets are laid on the table and you can clearly see the letters even though the black lights aren't shining on them, which means they would've been clearly visible to the naked eye. Second, they reveal the letters. C-R-O-A-T-O-A, Crotoa? Just so Clifton Collins Jr. Can tell the story of the Roanoke Island colony. So you're telling me Johnny Lee Miller put those letters on the jacket solely to have that story told? Preposterous. I mean, was that like a story that like. Like, like that Clifton Collins Jr. told all the time. He's like, oh, this would be great. I'll make him tell it to everybody again. Like, oh yeah, they'll just do the same story over and over again.
[00:18:09] Uh, I mean, I don't even understand. I mean, I guess I get, well, maybe that's a clue. That is technically a clue. He should have put, uh, Agatha Christie on the back of the jacket.
[00:18:19] Um, Quantum Volt, wannabe profiler writes,
[00:18:23] "I was sad that trio didn't discuss the underwater final face off between Johnny Lee Miller and Catherine Morris, where they aim guns above the water in what I think was a game of chicken with their breath control. I get Catherine's character is terrified of water, and it's supposed to be her conquering her fear, but there are so many problems from the guns being in the water for an extended period of time, let alone whether Catherine would be able to hit Johnny at all. I thought that was the dumbest, funniest part of the film."
[00:18:53] I mean, Quantum Volt, you did it. You you talked us through it. Yeah. I mean, I am tired of the underwater bullet thing. I think that that's the opening of the last James Bond movie. There is a period of time in the eighties and nineties where every bad guy's going underwater with their guns and they're shooting slow bullets.
[00:19:11] Uh, I think that that's a Mission Impossible three. The one with, uh, the guy from, the guy from Michael Clayton. Uh, and then it also is in Lethal Weapon, like everyone is going underwater with guns, and the guns are working fine. It's impossible. Uh, I believe that if you've never been underwater before, holding your breath shouldn't be that hard.
[00:19:35] I get, I, I don't know. I mean, she's afraid of water. I forgot about that. The movie is dumb. And that scene I thought actually was anticlimactic, honestly. Uh, so thank you for calling it out. And I'm sorry that we didn't get there. I think sometimes our energy for watching the movie, like we, by the end of the movie, we're taking less and less notes 'cause we've been just beaten into submission.
[00:19:56] Uh, Sean McBee writes,
[00:19:57] "I read the script from Mindhunters and the finished film didn't deviate it from too much. There are two things I wanted to mention."
[00:20:04] First of all, Sean, you read the script from Mindhunters? You, you belong up in the, the, the fancy category of, of our profilers and, and lit majors and physics teachers.
[00:20:16] Uh, okay. So Sean goes,
[00:20:18] "These are the two differences. During the end scene in the pool, instead of the silly holding the gun outta the water to shoot, whoever runs outta breath first, Katherine Morris gets outta the pool, then dumps in liquid nitrogen before Johnny Lee Miller can get out freezing him solid."
[00:20:34] Honestly, I like that ending better. I think that that's a cooler ending. It ties together some bookends.
[00:20:40] "Uh, and then, uh, the other scene that is different is there's a weird scene where Vince's leg twitches and the team suddenly suspects that he is been faking his disability and is the killer. They actually hold a gun to his head and say they're gonna kill him if he doesn't stand up. He does stand."
[00:20:57] Wait what?
[00:20:58] "But even the script doesn't know if that was from extreme effort or some weird nerve response. Despite this seemingly confirming their suspicions, the group moves on from it pretty quickly. It seems like they recognized in the edit that this didn't make a lot of sense and ended up cutting it, but they did leave in one shot of Vince's leg twitching earlier in the movie, and that was probably a setup for this scene."
[00:21:23] Wow. Wow, wow. Uh, that is a wild, a wild thing. And I actually really love the specificity of the twitch, uh, because it just further convolutes and makes everybody wanna point the gun at each other because that's really what they're all doing after a certain period of time.
[00:21:44] Uh, Sean, you, you did the Lord's work by reading the script. Uh, and I gotta say. You were not the only one. Uh, I mean, you know, to me, I feel like everybody brought their A game and that's why the winner I'm gonna pick this week. Oh, it's gonna, it's gonna be tricky. It is gonna be so, so tricky. It's gonna be Alwyn from London because Alwyn found something that no one else found, and it was right out in the open.
[00:22:15] The clue was right there, just like Crocotoa And here is your winning prize. That's right. You're not gonna get a prize. You can hold in your hand, but you can get this. A free profile of you from me. That's right. I'm gonna put on my FBI profile hat and based solely on the info available in your submission, I am going to tell you all about you.
[00:22:41] Scott. Hit me with some dramatic profiling music,
[00:22:46] Alwyn from London. Well, what do we have here? It looks like she's extremely armed, with opinions. That's right. Within minutes of meeting you, she will be able to diagnose you as a killer or a victim. Having read every Agatha Christie novel, she knows immediately which character you are playing in real life, because Agatha Christie has written everyone's life in her novels. We are just living them. And if you dare tell her about a movie or a TV show, she'll tell you which novel that was ripped off from. You say, oh my gosh, I love Family Matters. She goes, well, guess what? That's just The Crooked House, which is an Agatha Christie novel. You go, oh, I love, uh, What's Happening. She was like, oh, that's just Five Little Pigs. Oh, Alwyn. You're so smart. But beware. If you ever catch her in a locked room or around a Belgian man, something is amiss. You can often find her in libraries. And guess what? She does have a favorite Agatha Christie character, but she won't tell you who. And if you ever mispronounce Hercule Perot's name, she'll never forgive you the same way.
[00:24:02] She will never accept Benoit Blanc into her heart, because that's not Christie. That's Johnson. Anyway, I don't know what I'm doing anymore. Uh, I hope you enjoyed your profile. Uh, I'm sure that's a hundred percent accurate, uh, based on all the information I know about you. Anyway, uh, for those who didn't win, be thankful.
[00:24:23] Uh, but, guess what? You can try next week to get your prize. Maybe not an FBI profiler. Uh, maybe we won't do that again, but something else. Who knows? Anyway, uh, keep on submitting your corrections and omissions on our discord or by calling us at 6 1 9 P-A-U-L-A-S-K. Coming up after the break, Jason will stop by for a Just Chat, so stick around.
[00:24:47] Welcome back. By now. I'm sure you've noticed that every Tuesday we re-release Classic How Did This Get Made episodes back onto our feed. This week's classic episode was The Adventures of Pinocchio and in honor of Dr. Guts 1003 informing us that Renny Harlan almost directed A Sound of Thunder instead of Mindhunters.
[00:25:03] Next week's classic re-release will be our own episode on A Sound of Thunder and a little bit of trivia for you, A Sound of Thunder was originally supposed to star Pierce Brosnan, who happens to be the lead in the new movie that we are covering for next week. But you're gonna have to wait just a little bit longer before we reveal what that movie is 'cause right now it is time to welcome Jason to LastLooks for a little Just Chat.
[00:25:53] Music: [Just Chat Song]
[00:25:54] Paul Scheer: All right, Rob from Long Island with a classic just chat theme. Jason, how are you?
[00:26:01] Jason Mantzoukas: You know, Paul, I'm doing great.
[00:26:04] Paul Scheer: You know, uh, I feel like we're right now, you know, we're in April showers and I feel like, you know.
[00:26:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh wait, but listen, they're gonna bring those may flowers.
[00:26:12] Paul Scheer: Oh, I hope Jason, I really, really hope.
[00:26:14] Jason Mantzoukas: I hope we get May flowers this year.
[00:26:17] Paul Scheer: Uh, May Flowers would be a great name. For like an a, like a, like a 1940s actress. Oh, that's a May Flowers movie. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:26:25] Jason Mantzoukas: I love the like, like a, uh, it's a stage name. Her real name was like, uh, Peggy Lasser known as May Flowers.
[00:26:34] Paul Scheer: May Flowers is good. Um, oh, she is a.
[00:26:37] Jason Mantzoukas: She was murdered. May Flowers? Murdered.
[00:26:40] Paul Scheer: Well, she was dating that mafia guy. Like he was old school.
[00:26:43] Jason Mantzoukas: By the way. This is it.
[00:26:44] Paul Scheer: He betrayed Capone and uh, and it's.
[00:26:46] Jason Mantzoukas: It's starting to sound like I just, uh, not ju I mean, I don't know when this is coming out because we're recording, but it was recently, I will say not to timestamp when we're recording this St. Patrick's Day and, um, I have adopted our friend Owen Burke's St. Patrick's Day viewing routine, which is, I watched Miller's Crossing. The Cohen Brothers movie.
[00:27:07] Paul Scheer: Oh, I love that.
[00:27:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Miller's Crossing, which he watches, uh, on St. Patrick's Day. And boy, it's just one of my absolute favorites.
[00:27:13] Paul Scheer: Oh, I love that. I I love that. Uh, by the way, I'm looking up if there were any May flowers, um, and it seemed like there is a Maya Flowers.
[00:27:25] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, okay.
[00:27:25] Paul Scheer: And a Sandra May Flowers. But we are pretty much, we're good. We're good. May flowers.
[00:27:30] Jason Mantzoukas: We could do that.
[00:27:31] Paul Scheer: Yeah, we got it. Maya Flowers is different. And if your name is Maya Flowers, change it to May. Like why you're so close.
[00:27:39] Jason Mantzoukas: I mean, yeah, that's true. I mean, I wonder if she goes by May. Eh, probably not. Maya is such a short name. You don't need.
[00:27:45] Paul Scheer: Well, like if you're gonna name your kid Maya.
[00:27:48] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:27:48] Paul Scheer: Uh, then, then just name her May.
[00:27:51] Jason Mantzoukas: But what if you were trying to say like, oh, those are Maya flowers.
[00:27:56] Paul Scheer: Now. Now you're talking.
[00:27:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Now. Now it's making sense.
[00:27:59] Paul Scheer: Now I get it. Oh my gosh.
[00:28:02] Jason Mantzoukas: I love it. I love, I think we should, here's, here's what we should do.
[00:28:05] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:28:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Allah, Tilly Norwood. Yeah, of course. We should create an my favorite AI actor named May Flowers.
[00:28:13] Paul Scheer: Now that's, I'm in. Okay. Yes.
[00:28:16] Jason Mantzoukas: And maybe, maybe instead of like Tilly Norwood's, like kind of, she's like a young ingenue, maybe. May Flowers is, we do, our AI is like a standup comedian who just does Matt Rife style crowd work.
[00:28:30] Paul Scheer: Oh, okay. I, I. Now that see, you're going that direction.
[00:28:35] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:28:35] Paul Scheer: And I'm thinking, what I was thinking that you were gonna go for was we create like a June squib. She's just.
[00:28:41] Jason Mantzoukas: I love it.
[00:28:41] Paul Scheer: Very, very.
[00:28:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Very old.
[00:28:43] Paul Scheer: But by the way, we, let's, let's mix 'em together. Yeah. She's an old, like, because you could do it. Yes. You know, it's like.
[00:28:48] Jason Mantzoukas: Can do it for years. She's not gonna, you know, she's, you know, she's an elderly standup comedian who just does crowd work.
[00:28:57] Paul Scheer: To great success. Because she is getting this intergenerational audience. It's like the young kids love her because she's cool and she's hip, but the older people are like, finally, this person can speak for me.
[00:29:08] Jason Mantzoukas: And because it's ai, we can have her be literate in all of the slang and everything for all the generations.
[00:29:16] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah. Like just.
[00:29:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Speak authentically to Gen Alpha and the Baby Boomers.
[00:29:22] Paul Scheer: But she's not playing down to it. Like she's not doing like, oh, it depends, like depends. No, no, she's not doing that kind of stuff. Yeah.
[00:29:30] Jason Mantzoukas: No, I think she's kind of like a real tells it like it is honest person, you know? Like I think that the thing we need to prioritize in our new AI actors and, and then this is speaks for also the Geek Squad. Is, uh, people, what they want is the perception of authenticity, and that is why.
[00:29:49] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:29:49] Jason Mantzoukas: I think the more authentic we can make May Flowers seem, our elderly standup comedian AI construct, uh, the more authentic we can make her seem, the better, you know?
[00:30:00] Paul Scheer: Yes. And I feel like that becomes, I mean, this is where we're gonna have to spend a lot of money now. I know a lot of people are not, you know, are like, Hey, Paul, Jason, don't, don't, you know, embrace ai, but we are doing something that honestly, I don't think you can do, which is a 90.
[00:30:16] Jason Mantzoukas: That's the reason to use ai.
[00:30:18] Paul Scheer: Exactly right. It this is not taking a job away from anyone. We're doing, uh, you know, we're, we're doing a hundred year old person.
[00:30:25] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:30:25] Paul Scheer: It is.
[00:30:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:30:28] Paul Scheer: We're gonna get one angry. How dare you? You guys don't joke about it.
[00:30:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Even as a joke. Even as a joke. I don't like it when they do this, even as a joke. It's not funny to joke around about.
[00:30:38] Paul Scheer: It's not, yeah, it's people are like, all right, all right, we're just enjoying our.
[00:30:41] Jason Mantzoukas: Here are the names of five incredibly talented elderly comedians who never broke. Why don't you talk? Why don't you give them a platform instead of your stupid fake person?
[00:30:54] Paul Scheer: You dumb bits. Oh man. Uh, oh my gosh.
[00:30:58] Jason Mantzoukas: All right. Uh, I've got stuff that I'm watching. You wanna hear about it?
[00:31:01] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Yeah, sure.
[00:31:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Get ready. Did I talk about Bookish? The Mark Gaddis, um, post World War II detective show on, um, PBS Masterpiece?
[00:31:11] Paul Scheer: No.
[00:31:12] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay, good. Okay. So, um, there's a show called Bookish that was on Masterpiece. It just finished its first season and it's, it's like the most masterpiece theater, uh, British, uh, uh, uh, detective show. It is post World War ii, like Right, right after the war, so.
[00:31:31] Paul Scheer: Right, right.
[00:31:31] Jason Mantzoukas: It features like bombed out London streets and everything.
[00:31:35] Mark Gattis, who you might know as the Mycroft in the, um, Sherlock Holmes, Benedict Cumberbatch, Sherlock Holmes. He's also the head of the Iron Bank on Game of Thrones. He's part of the Dr. Who world Mark Gattis. You would recognize if you saw him.
[00:31:50] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:31:51] Jason Mantzoukas: This is his show he wrote and created it, and it's about a Sherlock Holmes esque detective who's helping, who consults with the police to solve crimes in post World War II London. And it is dynamite. There's just a lot going on. There's a lot of layers to it that are very interesting, but it's really just straight ahead. Every two episodes is one mystery, so it's basically like a movie length.
[00:32:20] Paul Scheer: Oh, I love that.
[00:32:20] Jason Mantzoukas: Story. So every two episodes is one mystery.
[00:32:23] Paul Scheer: A little like Luther esque in that way, right?
[00:32:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Very much, yes. And it's so fun and it looks great, and it, and Gaddis is fantastic and there's a couple of like good reveals that come in and a couple of like longer running mysteries. But for the most part it's a case of the week and, uh, absolutely beautifully done. It's called Bookish. It's available now. The whole first season is up and it's terrific.
[00:32:47] Paul Scheer: Oh, wow. All right. I I gotta watch that. I like that a lot.
[00:32:50] Jason Mantzoukas: I think you'd really like it. It's, it's really satisfying.
[00:32:53] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Th That's all right. That seems really good. Are you reading anything right now? 'cause I'm reading a great book. I don't know if I talked about this.
[00:32:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Ooh, what do you got?
[00:32:59] Paul Scheer: I read this book called Strangers, which is a, a memoir of a marriage by Bell Burden, which is, uh, June was reading it and she's like, you gotta read it. It's about this couple who's been together, like this kind of New York City socialite, uh, whose husband leaves her. It's a really great, compelling quick read, really beautifully written.
[00:33:18] Jason Mantzoukas: And it's during the pandemic, is that right?
[00:33:19] Paul Scheer: Yes. It happens like, uh, during COVID and, uh. It's fascinating. I, I, I think what I love about it is on some level it just talks about breakups and like that awkwardness of what a breakup is and how you feel and did you do anything wrong and, and who and, and how your friends treat you.
[00:33:41] It really captures an element. And there's another part of this, which is like, they are very affluent and they're within this like, kind of a different cultural sphere in New York. Which is great, but I do think the reason why it connects so much is it's not like, it doesn't have like juicy bits like, oh, then we went to this house and we did this. It really just more is like how you fit in when you are a part of something and now you are singular.
[00:34:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:34:04] Paul Scheer: And uh, I thought that book was really, uh, really, really great. Um, and I also.
[00:34:08] Jason Mantzoukas: That was a much discussed.
[00:34:10] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:34:11] Jason Mantzoukas: When I was in New York doing, um, that Simon Rich show, everybody behind the scenes was reading, I guess it had just been excerpted in something. Uh, it had just been maybe in Vanity Fair or something. And that book was like everybody was talking about that book. I gotta read it.
[00:34:28] Paul Scheer: Yeah, it is a. She writes really well, I guess it started as a New York Times, like there's like a love section New York Times. Like you can write like these stories about like relationships.
[00:34:37] Jason Mantzoukas: Modern love. Yes.
[00:34:38] Paul Scheer: Modern love. Yeah. So she wrote that and it kind of, it grew out of that. So, um, but uh, yeah, I highly, highly recommend that. I really think it's a, a great.
[00:34:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Um, I will shout out, um, I don't remember if I mentioned this. Um, uh, I'm a huge fan of all the Star Wars audio books.
[00:34:54] Paul Scheer: Oh, yeah.
[00:34:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Specifically I love all the Star Wars books, but the audio books, they do such a great job sound designing them and, and making them feel very immersive. And the one that came out, uh, last, at the end of last year called Sanctuary that is, um, The Bad Batch, the tv right, the animated show, the Bad Batch This is a, a novel for the all of those characters, and it's fantastic.
[00:35:15] Paul Scheer: Oh, I love that.
[00:35:16] Jason Mantzoukas: That's, I'll throw out a couple of recommendations for comics. Um, I'm, I'm very much enjoying Matt Fractions, uh, Batman run right now with, uh, Jorge Haman as on a gorgeous book. Fantastic. Uh, two books, two like longer books like hardcover books. Um, the Avengers in the Veracity Trap, the Chip Kidd book was fantastic. And the Superhero's Journey. These are basically books where creators are putting themselves and doing graphic novels that are about their own personal relationship to these characters and these stories. So there's a real blurring of the lines. Do you remember, like we talked about, I think on your pod, on your maybe something you were doing, um, Marvel 1985.
[00:36:01] Paul Scheer: Oh, yes. Yes, yes.
[00:36:02] Jason Mantzoukas: You know, it seems it's a little bit like that. These are, these are incredible comics creators who are writing these original stories that are ab, that have themselves as components to them and, and why and how all of these characters from the Marvel universe are so impactful and important to them and but told nonetheless in a comics style.
[00:36:23] So very good. Um, the Avengers and the Veracity Trap and the Superhero's Journey, I loved both of those. I will also shout out, um, I'm like very much enjoying, I just finished rather, uh, they did a deluxe edition of an old Batman storyline called The Cult.
[00:36:42] Paul Scheer: Okay.
[00:36:42] Jason Mantzoukas: And it's, it's really takes place in a Gotham where like a cult figure.
[00:36:46] Paul Scheer: Ooh.
[00:36:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Takes over. Like a cult leader, a religious leader, cult leader, takes over Gotham and starts to amass this incredibly powerful army of people who are doing whatever he says. And the, the parallels between its storyline and the, the world we're currently living in was chilling and very unsettling. Uh, and it's great. And it's from the nineties, you know, it's like an old, yeah, it's an old run, but fantastic. Uh, they just put out a deluxe edition of it and it's really great.
[00:37:19] Paul Scheer: Oh, I love that. I should check that out. I, uh, I just got, uh, I went out with our good friend Jesse Falcon, by the way. We should, we should, you should come out to those dinners. I've been trying to do, uh, yeah. Uh, like a, a bimonthly, uh, Jesse Falcon dinner 'cause he is.
[00:37:35] Jason Mantzoukas: I would love it.
[00:37:37] Paul Scheer: A great hang, as you know. Um, Jesse works in the Marvel world. Uh, but he gave me this book, the Furry Trap, by Josh Simmons. And Whoa.
[00:37:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes, Josh Simmons is Nuts. Yes.
[00:37:48] Paul Scheer: Yes. It is like a horror short story collection. And it is. I mean, there are things in it that I was like, it is, uh, it's visceral. It's like big is a.
[00:38:00] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, it's unsettling. Yeah.
[00:38:01] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:38:01] Jason Mantzoukas: No, no. Josh Simmons stuff is very hardcore. Very. It's great. It's, it's really, does that book, I forget, have the Batman story in it? There's a Josh Simmons book. Dream of the Bat is the, is the, is the one I'm thinking.
[00:38:17] Paul Scheer: Oh, yes, yes. Okay. I'm looking at that right now.
[00:38:18] Jason Mantzoukas: Um. And that's another Josh Simmons kind of twisted book that's great. Um, and
[00:38:24] Paul Scheer: there's a few, it looks like, it looks like the twilight of the bat and uh.
[00:38:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Ooh. I don't know that I knew that existed.
[00:38:29] Paul Scheer: And then the Birth of the Bat. Yeah. This is interesting. Uh, I gotta get more into him. Uh, but yes, it's like.
[00:38:35] Jason Mantzoukas: Because I think that's how I found out about Josh Simmons was also Jesse Falcon.
[00:38:39] Paul Scheer: Oh, wow.
[00:38:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay. So that makes total sense.
[00:38:42] Paul Scheer: Yeah. That is. Uh, it was like, he's like, we gotta go over here. I'm gonna get you this book. And I was like, all right, great. Uh.
[00:38:49] Jason Mantzoukas: He is the best. I just love him.
[00:38:50] Paul Scheer: He's such, such a good time.
[00:38:52] Jason Mantzoukas: Um, I've become obsessed with the comics writer Rom V.
[00:38:56] Paul Scheer: Okay.
[00:38:56] Jason Mantzoukas: Um, and just two books that of his, that I really enjoyed, the One Hand and the Six Fingers, and Dawn Runner, uh, are two kind of graphic novel length books that are, I think are both absolutely terrific. Very cool, very interesting, uh, comics writer right now that I think is really worth checking out.
[00:39:17] Paul Scheer: Now, I know that we are always recommending stuff that we really, really like, but Jason, there is something I do need to talk to you about that is kind of inexplicable in many ways, which is, um, on Peacock, our favorite streaming platform.
[00:39:30] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:39:30] Paul Scheer: Uh, we talk about it a lot. Uh. There was a special called Live Mas Live. Live Mas Live happened the Friday before the Academy Awards.
[00:39:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay.
[00:39:44] Paul Scheer: And it was presented as an award show hosted by Vin Vince Staples and Live Mas Live was a Taco Bell board meeting that was put on stage that I. Molly watched it with me and we are in complete, and, uh, like, it, it shook me to the core what this thing is because you'd think, okay, well they'll have jokes and they'll do music.
[00:40:13] No, it is a straight up hour long. Like, it's like, oh, I work for Taco Bell and they're kind of like bringing me into the fold. Yeah. And guess what? They hired a couple interesting people. Like they have like Benson Boone comes out at one point and he goes, let me tell you about this six sided thirst trap.
[00:40:29] It's a Quesarita Supreme, as Molly is saying right now. She says It's post apocalyptic fast food nightmare.
[00:40:35] Jason Mantzoukas: Um, wait, but was it real?
[00:40:38] Paul Scheer: It's. 100% real. It is a way for Taco Bell to show off all their new products, like the Creme Brulee Crunch wrap.
[00:40:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, okay.
[00:40:46] Paul Scheer: But they put it in an award show thing and you would think, okay, well Vince Staples is hosting it. No, just, it's really the CMO. Like he introduces.
[00:40:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Whoa.
[00:40:55] Paul Scheer: The show. And then the CMO comes out and the CMO runs most of the show, and then they cut to cameos of people that are shocking. Like at one point they.
[00:41:05] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[00:41:05] Paul Scheer: It's like the money that went out to pay everybody. And, and I don't, I don't fault anyone for taking Taco Bell money and showing up and drinking a cold brew horchata.
[00:41:15] Jason Mantzoukas: Where did it air?
[00:41:17] Paul Scheer: Peacock.
[00:41:18] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay.
[00:41:18] Paul Scheer: Live Mas Live.
[00:41:21] Jason Mantzoukas: What the fuck is going on?
[00:41:21] Paul Scheer: As I describe it to you, it's not close to capturing what it was. It was like, oh, this would be funny. It's lame. It's weird. No.
[00:41:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Because it sounds like what you're pitching me is like a, a Tim and Eric Sketch.
[00:41:32] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:41:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Or something, you know?
[00:41:34] Paul Scheer: Yes. And it like, it, it, it's really, it's all over the place. It's a show that they keep on telling you, um, it's gonna be full of comedy and music, but they never get to either one of those things. Organic. Like it's like, yeah, they're, I guess this is comedy. Some of the faces that you might know and recognize a lot of great friends of ours that are in it.
[00:41:53] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[00:41:53] Paul Scheer: And I need to ask them a lot of questions about what it was, but a live event. It happened live.
[00:41:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Were the Doughboys on it? This seems like prime Doughboys.
[00:42:01] Paul Scheer: Oh no, it was, it was Jason Sudeikis.
[00:42:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Got, got it.
[00:42:05] Paul Scheer: Uh, Benson Boone, Rachel Bilson.. Uh, it was the Bella Twins from the WWE.
[00:42:11] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[00:42:12] Paul Scheer: Phineas. Phineas from Billy Eilish.
[00:42:14] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[00:42:15] Paul Scheer: Like, uh, like, uh, Tara Lipinski, um.
[00:42:18] Jason Mantzoukas: What the hell?
[00:42:19] Paul Scheer: Yeah. It, it is a, a wild ride. Anyway.
[00:42:22] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my God.
[00:42:22] Paul Scheer: And Vince Staples hosts it.
[00:42:23] Jason Mantzoukas: I wonder how many people are watching that.
[00:42:26] Paul Scheer: I don't know.
[00:42:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Because you said it's long, right? It's not, it's like a long thing.
[00:42:29] Paul Scheer: It's an hour. It's an hour long. It's got.
[00:42:32] Jason Mantzoukas: It's like a full length special.
[00:42:34] Paul Scheer: If you have Peacock, just try the opening. You're like, oh, Paul oversold this, this is not bad. The opening is the only part where I'm like, okay, there's some, there's a conceit here. Uh, and then once they get into the venue. Which is The Palladium. Um, it is wild.
[00:42:53] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my god.
[00:42:54] Paul Scheer: Wild. It is wild.
[00:42:56] Jason Mantzoukas: That is very unsettling.
[00:42:57] Paul Scheer: I need everyone to watch it because I can't. I, I lived through this with Molly and, uh, and Wes, we did a special.
[00:43:04] Jason Mantzoukas: You guys have like trauma that you need to talk, but to talk through.
[00:43:08] Paul Scheer: It. Really, we really, like, I you have a.
[00:43:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Trauma bond.
[00:43:10] Paul Scheer: It still sits with me. I'm like, what did I watch there? And you know, when, and my, my and your like. My, my radar for this is like, I'm fine. I can watch anything and be like, It wasn't bad. This was on, on another level, something like, like it was like we were forced to watch a company retreat where they're like, we got Tara Lipinski, so she's gonna come out, talk about the crunch wrap. Like, oh, that's amazing. People are gong to go nuts.
[00:43:32] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, it's almost like, it's almost like, uh, uh, uh, an inside out, like, um. You know, Gillette Theater or something like that. Yes. Like the product would host a performance, you know?
[00:43:42] Paul Scheer: Right. And you don't even get that.
[00:43:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Like, you don't even like, but now you don't get the performance, you just get like the board meeting of Gillette and some celebrities like walk through.
[00:43:50] Paul Scheer: Right. And it and, and it's, and it is that, that same thing. I don't know if you've ever done this. I've definitely done this where you are, but kind of flown in. We'll treat you nice. We'll put you up in a night, we'll pay you a little bit of money. You just come and say, Hey everybody. I'm so excited that everything is happening for Taco Bell, but it's on like we don't do that on camera.
[00:44:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:44:08] Paul Scheer: No one knows that that ever happens.
[00:44:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Right, right.
[00:44:10] Paul Scheer: That is like, I went to Mexico one time to sit with a bunch of people who bought the most local advertising on FX at one point.
[00:44:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh wow.
[00:44:17] Paul Scheer: June and I went down and had a dinner. And, uh, it was love. It was a lovely experience.
[00:44:22] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, wow.
[00:44:23] Paul Scheer: It was a fine experience.
[00:44:24] Jason Mantzoukas: That's interesting. Yeah.
[00:44:24] Paul Scheer: But man, oh man. This Live, Mas Live.
[00:44:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay. I'm gonna check, I'm gonna check this out.
[00:44:28] Paul Scheer: Like, I mean, check it out like. At night, you know, get yourself, yeah. Get yourself in whatever zone you need to do because.
[00:44:36] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my God.
[00:44:36] Paul Scheer: It, it, you need to be a little bit, you need to, I think in, in the broad light of day, it will, it'll be a soul crush.
[00:44:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Holy shit. That's very funny.
[00:44:46] Paul Scheer: Um.
[00:44:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Love.
[00:44:47] Paul Scheer: Man. Oh man. I love it. Gives me the chills, just even thinking about it. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.
[00:44:52] Jason Mantzoukas: No, I love that. I think that sounds absolutely bananas. I can throw a couple more things in into the mix.
[00:44:59] Paul Scheer: Okay, great.
[00:44:59] Jason Mantzoukas: I'll just throw out, um, in my continuing, uh, anime, uh, obsession, uh, I now have just watched season one of Jiujitsu Kaizen, which is I think phenomenal.
[00:45:12] Like, uh.
[00:45:13] Paul Scheer: Oh, yeah.
[00:45:13] Jason Mantzoukas: That and Sentence to Being a Hero are two of like the best action, um, shows that I've ever seen, like the, the, the fights and everything are absolutely beautiful and stunning. Gorgeous show. As stunning and beautiful as like the heartbreaking scenes of this season of Freiren are. Uh, I will say absolutely the season of this season of Freiren, which I've already mentioned, uh, is absolutely the best season of television maybe I've ever seen. The Hero of the South episode is absolutely incredible. Um, the documentary about, uh, screenwriter Patty Chasky called Collector of Words, is absolutely fantastic if you care about Hollywood.
[00:45:55] Paul Scheer: Ooh.
[00:45:56] Jason Mantzoukas: Uh, he is just such a fantastic character. I cannot recommend that enough, as well as the documentary, Paul, which I think you would also like, which is called Breslin and Hamel.
[00:46:05] Paul Scheer: Ooh.
[00:46:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Deadline artist. Which is about the, the relationship of Jimmy Breslin and Pete Hamel, the two.
[00:46:14] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah.
[00:46:14] Jason Mantzoukas: Like Totemic New York, uh, journalists. Yes. Uh, New York City journalists, and it's about their friendship. It's about their battles with each other. It's just, and it's also what I loved about it, which I think you would very much like about it.
[00:46:26] It is about that period of time in New York City that is so heady and so wild and all of the footage is fantastic. All of the characters are fantastic.
[00:46:38] Paul Scheer: Oh, I love that.
[00:46:39] Jason Mantzoukas: I think it's on an HBO I'm almost positive. Uh, it's called Breslin and Hamel Deadline Artists. That one in the Patti Chesky documentary I think are absolutely dynamite.
[00:46:50] Paul Scheer: I love this. Uh, alright, Jason, what a pleasure chatting with you as always.
[00:46:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Yay.
[00:46:56] Paul Scheer: Now it is finally time to announce our next movie. Next week we are going from Johnny Lee Miller to Liquid Bomb Killer. That's right. We'll be watching 1992's action thriller Live Wire starring Pierce Brosnan, Lisa Elbacher from Beverly Hills Cop and actor activist Ron Silva.
[00:47:16] I know it's Silver. I'm so excited for you to watch this movie. It is a great one. Here's a breakdown to the plot.
[00:47:21] "After a US senator is killed by a mysterious ingested liquid explosive, a bomb disposal expert is brought in to investigate the explosive and uncover the terrorist plan."
[00:47:31] Uh, now there are not enough reviews of live wire on Rotten Tomatoes, so instead we turn to Letterbox where User Silent Dawn writes
[00:47:39] "A nineties trash action procedural that's mainly hilariously about infidelity while the rest of it revolves around, uh, water that explodes after being ingested. Wacky stuff."
[00:47:50] And you know what? Silent Dawn is a hundred percent right. This movie, fucking rules take a listen to the trailer.
[00:47:56] Trailer Audio: These attacks against members of the Senate come just a week before the revote on the anti arms bill.
[00:48:01] Now there's a matter of my $10 million.
[00:48:03] You're talking about.
[00:48:06] There's absolutely no trace of any kind of explosive or fragments from a detotnating device.
[00:48:12] Keep digging. People don't just explode. You took a drink of water, shook, boom.
[00:48:18] Hold on.
[00:48:19] Then boom. That's it?
[00:48:21] No, I left out the part that you swallowed a grenade.
[00:48:25] Paul Scheer: Now Livewire is not currently streaming anywhere for free, but you can rent it in all the usual places. Um. So I suggest that you do, I, I think you're gonna be very happy with this choice. It is fun nineties trash. Uh, so. That is all for Last Looks. If you listen on Apple Podcast or Spotify, please rate and review us. Make sure you are following us and have automatic downloads turned on. It helps the show and we appreciate it. Visit us on social media @HDTGM and a big thank you to our producer Scott Sonne and Molly Reynolds, our engineer, Casey Holford, and our social media manager, Zoe Applebaum, as well as our intern Quinn Jennings.
[00:49:01] And of course, we will forever be thankful for the one and the only Avaryl Halley, we miss Avaryl. We'll see you next week for Livewire.