How Did This Get Made?

Last Looks: My Secret Santa

Episode Summary

Ted Danson chats with Jason about working together on Netflix's A Man on the Inside and the Good Place in an excerpt from Jason's recent guest appearance on Ted's podcast, Where Everybody Knows Your Name. But first, Paul answers all your Corrections & Omissions on My Secret Santa before we announce next week's new movie! Listen to Jason's full episode of Where Everybody Knows Your Name on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Watch Paul's short documentary Swiftie Dads.

Episode Notes

Ted Danson chats with Jason about working together on Netflix's A Man on the Inside and the Good Place in an excerpt from Jason's recent guest appearance on Ted's podcast, Where Everybody Knows Your Name. But first, Paul answers all your Corrections & Omissions on My Secret Santa before we announce next week's new movie!


 

Listen to Jason's full episode of Where Everybody Knows Your Name on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.


 

Watch Paul's short documentary Swiftie Dads.

Episode Transcription

[00:00:00] Paul Scheer: Human nonsense, Ted Danson and Paul Scheer with Swifty Dads? All this and more on today's How Did This Get Made Last Looks. Hit the theme!

[00:00:11] Music: [Last Looks Opening Song]

[00:00:12] Paul Scheer: Hello all you hot cocoa lovers out there who are horny for Santa. I'm your host Hugh Mann. I mean, uh, Paul Scheer and welcome to How Did This Get Made Last Looks, where you, the listener, get to voice your issues on My Secret Santa, a movie that Discord user, Dove thinks, should have had the tagline,

[00:00:31] "It's not Hugh, it's me."

[00:00:33] Ho ho ho! I love that. That's really good. Why isn't that in the movie? That's like easy pickens. That's great. I mean, by the way, that should have been, uh, the tagline of the movie. Well, I guess it would be a confusing tagline 'cause you didn't know. But here's the thing, it's great. Dove, you killed it.

[00:00:50] You killed it with that tagline. Uh, now also, I'm having a hard time right here because, uh, dove is a character in a book that I just read, uh, Tomorrow, Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, which is a great book. Check it out. It's, it's beautiful. It's a, it's a story about platonic friendship. It's also a story about just partnership and video games, and it was one of my favorite reads in a long time, and I cried multiple times. I haven't cried reading a book in a very long time. Uh, it's great. Check it out. And again, you don't need like a PSA from me to check out a book because I believe this book was a hugely successful book, book of last year. Like when I opened up the, uh, the paperback, there's just pages of, uh, of great accolades that this book has achieved. So, uh, anyway, I love that book. You should check it out. Also, I don't know if you've heard of it, but Catcher in the Rye, a pretty cool book.

[00:01:47] Yeah, you should. You, you'll like it, you, you know, I read it. I'm like kind of on the inside. Yeah. I, I don't need to give you any more book recommendations, but, uh, I'm reading Martyr now, which.

[00:01:57] It's also A plus. I'm reading good books, you know, I hear, here's my theory. You always say, I wanna read more books in the new year. Or maybe you don't. I do. And, uh, if I can get like the amount of books that I wanna read done early, then I won't let myself down at the end of the year. When I found that I didn't read as many books as I wanted, but I gave myself a goal this year, five books.

[00:02:18] I normally do more than that, but five books I can, I can achieve that anyway. Uh. Enough about me and my reading. Oh God, Scheer loves talking about his reading. Anyway, uh, a big shout out to Latex Drool for that opening theme song. Uh, unfortunately the Screaming Kittens were too busy to make a song for us.

[00:02:37] Yeah, apparently the lead singers in love, and you know what? Honestly, I just don't think that she ever really cared about the band anyway. I mean, she had that kid and just quit the band. I mean, they would never achieve mainstream success with that kind of lackadaisical attitude. So anyway. Latex Drool, you are way better than Screaming Kittens ever were. We appreciate you stepping in.

[00:02:59] Remember, if you have an alt movie tagline or you have a song for this show, it's so easy to to get us the information we need. Alt movie taglines, corrections, and omissions. That all happens on the Discord. Discord.gg/HDTGM.

[00:03:14] And if you're submitting a song, just go to our website. HDTGM.com and there's a little button it says, uh, submit a song. You click on that, you upload the song. Keep it short, keep it nice. 15 to 20 seconds is best. And by the way, manageable. Um. Coming up on today's show, we got some really fun stuff to do.

[00:03:33] Uh, yes. We're gonna get to your corrections and omissions. On My Secret Santa, I actually saw that the lead actress of My Secret Santa was, uh, commenting on, uh, on one of our posts, um, which always gives me a little bit of a, a nervous energy, but she seems that she's really into it and she wanted to explain some of the choices made in Secret Santa, but I would recommend this.

[00:03:55] Uh, she seems like a super cool person and if you go to her page, she's got some of the makeup, uh, and costume tests for the film, and there's a image of her in her Santa costume dancing around, which just is disturbing and great. And I love it. So check her out. I'm not gonna tell you her name because I don't remember it off the top of my head, but, um, you can figure it out.

[00:04:16] You can do the math. Um, also guess who's coming on the show today? Ted Danon. Yeah. You know, Ted Danon. From Cheers, from The Good Place, from The Man on the Inside. Well, anyway, Jason went on Ted's podcast and we took a little portion of that and we're gonna put it on this podcast. So if you've never listened to Ted's show, you can get a little taste of it.

[00:04:36] Maybe you wanna follow it up later. But more importantly, if you love Jason, uh, you're gonna hear the two of them talk about The Good Place, The Man on the Inside, and so much more. Plus, we'll also reveal the movie for next week's episode. Now. I got a big announcement, a personal announcement, um, back in 2023,

[00:04:55] I was obsessed with these dads who were hanging out in the parking lot at Taylor Swift concerts, they were in their cargo shorts. They were checking their phone. They were just kind of pacing, uh, and they were all waiting for their daughters to get out of the show. So I had this idea, I wanna go talk to these dads.

[00:05:15] I thought it was gonna be like this funny thing, like, these dads just miserable, you know, at this concert, not really loving, you know, Taylor Swift or anything about it, but just having to be there. And I went down to SoFi. Within the first 15 minutes, I realized, oh, I have this all wrong. And I captured something that I think is really interesting.

[00:05:37] I went there for about two or three nights, talked to a bunch of different people. Um, we were gonna make this into a feature film. Um, not this short, but this is a kind of this magical thing. Magical. It was this thing that just. I happened on because I wanted to do a little funny bit, but then I found something a little bit deeper.

[00:05:57] We were actually gonna blow it up into a bigger movie that had a much bigger scope and that all fell apart. Um, but. I realized I never released the original mini doc, the mini doc that actually got us financing for this, uh, feature. So I wanted to put it up and I did. And your response to it has been amazing.

[00:06:18] Uh, thank you so much for watching it. Thank you for commenting on it. If you've not watched it, you can watch it, uh, on my website, PaulScheer.com, or on my YouTube or on The Dark Web, YouTube. It's very easy. Uh, just type in "Paul Scheer talks to Taylor Swift Dads" and, um. And if you liked it, share it. Um, you know, I, I, it was really fun, just fun to just go out with a camera and shoot stuff and just find something.

[00:06:42] Um, so yeah, so thank you. Hope you check it out. You don't have to be a Swifty fan. That's the other thing. You don't have to be a Swifty fan. People are like, I don't like Taylor Swift. First of all, let's take that outta the equation. This is about parents and children, and this is about concert going, it, it covers a lot of different stuff.

[00:07:02] So if you have been a child, if you are a parent, if you've ever been to a concert, I think it will resonate with you. So, uh, and also I will say that the, the thing that Taylor Swift did with this concert. It, it just blew my mind. I, I, I've never experienced anything else like this at a concert. So anyway, uh, check out that, uh, little mini doc.

[00:07:22] It's only like 15 minutes. Watch on your phone. It's fine. I'm not mad at it. I'm not over here like, uh, Christopher Nolan or something. Um, so yeah, watch It ain't which way you want. And finally, you could check out Dinosaur Improv back at Largo on January 24th. Okay. Uh, January 24th. We're back at Largo, and Jason and I will be together on the Scam Goddess Podcast on January 13th.

[00:07:48] Woo. A lot of plugs there. Lot of plugs, but all good, interesting plugs. We're giving you a lot of free content is what we're saying. Anyway, that's all the plugs. Let's get into it. Last week we talked at length about My Secret Santa. We had questions and we might have even missed a few things. Here's your chance to set a straight. Fact check us, if you will. It is now time for Corrections and Omissions.

[00:08:09] Music: [Corrections and Omissions Song]

[00:08:09] Paul Scheer: Thank you to the Brash Menagerie for that pop punk theme. By the way, Brash Menagerie. Love that. Let's go to the Discord. Nixed writes, 

[00:08:18] "A lot of logic issues in this movie could have been solved if instead of starting the movie showing Taylor getting fired from a place that has no relevance to the rest of the movie, she was getting fired from working in the kitchen at the resort. You don't need to reshoot the scene. You just don't establish an irrelevant place. It makes it so much cleaner if the employee discount plot was part of the reason why she was working in the kitchen, gives herself a reason to disguise herself there to continue the discount. Um, and really the only changes it makes is that Tia Maori, uh, threatening her at the end would make sense. I mean, it would be great if Tia was the one who fired her."

[00:08:57] Oh my gosh, Nixed, you nailed it. 

[00:08:59] Uh, Lizard writes,

[00:09:01] "Why was Tia Maori so insistent on unmasking Santa in front of all the children? I mean, I know she wanted to make Matthew look bad so she could get his job, but I imagine she surely would get fired from the bad publicity from her going crazy and yelling that Santa is a fake. She seems so determined to ruin the hotel after she doesn't get the promotion. And by the way. Who is she fighting against? The owner's son. It wasn't even a fair, he, of course he's gonna get it. I'm sorry, but nepotism is here to stay."

[00:09:32] Um, Johnny Unusual writes,

[00:09:33] "The name, Hugh Mann, as a wacky fake name was used in a classic episode of Futurama, where an alien uses a flimsy disguise to outwit the buffoonish Zap Brannigan. Now, uh, I don't mean to imply this is stolen, rather, my concern is that as a wacky name, Hugh Mann doesn't really work in the context of the movie. The Futurama, the gag is that a alien is, uh, taking a ridiculously literal pseudonym. But Taylor isn't pretending to be a human. She's pretending to be a man. Hugh Mann would work for, uh, you know, maybe a Christmas elf who is trying to be a human or a reindeer, pretending to be a person. But for a woman, wouldn't something like Man Lee or Mascue Lane or Harry Chest make more sense?"

[00:10:20] By the way, hire Johnny Unusual, people man. Man Lee? Harry Chest? I mean, Mascue Lane, um, is pushing it, but the other two, perfect.

[00:10:30] Let's go to Johnny from Pittsburgh. 

[00:10:33] Listener: Hey guys, I, um, just listened to the newest episode on, uh, My Secret Santa, and apparently, uh, you were right about the Eggold IMDB review. It looks like his dad is Jay Eggold, James Eggold. So his dad wrote that really sweet review about how heartwarming film it is. Anyway, love you guys. Bye. 

[00:10:57] Paul Scheer: Thank you, Johnny. And yeah, we figured it out. That's right. It's his dad. And you know what? God bless his dad for doing that. That is some perfect dad energy.

[00:11:10] Again, we're kind of tying together the Swifty Dads thing and this, I love it all. Dads get out there and support your kids by getting on Amazon and getting the word out. Okay. Uh, next up is, uh, Meredith. 

[00:11:24] Listener: Hi, my name is Meredith. Um, and I just listened to, uh, the, My Secret Santa episode and you mentioned Common Sense Media, the website for parents to, uh, review media that their children might be watching and you called it, um, like a conservative website.

[00:11:40] I work part-time for them as a media reviewer, and they're absolutely not a conservative website. They're actually super liberal. Um, what I do for them is actually audit the media reviews that exist for DEI content. So I add DEI content, I add a new section called Diverse Representations, where I get to talk about if there's a very positive queer relationship, I gotta to talk about that in a very positive way.

[00:12:04] If there's great black representation or disability representation, I get to talk about that. If there's a, something problematic in the media, like um, a woman's being called a slut, I get to add that as something negative. And, um, I've been doing this for Common Sense Media for I'd say about four years.

[00:12:23] They have a huge program to not only audit every single media review they have, but to include all of these standards and guidelines in new media. So they're actually really liberal and progressive. It is for parents to review media that their kids might watch, but in an informed, educated way and not in a conservative, policing way.

[00:12:44] Uh, you might go look at some of the media reviews, like I did Avatar, I did Jaws, I did 50 First Dates, and you can kind of see that diverse representations and how we're able to call out things that are negative in terms of, in terms of DEI and then also support, um, progressive, uh, DEI representation.

[00:13:05] So it's actually a really fantastic, very positive, very liberal company. Thanks for listening. Have a good day. 

[00:13:11] Paul Scheer: Alright. Okay. I Meredith, I am sorry about that. I, I thought that they were conservative and I'm happy to hear that they highlight great DEI and call it negative DEI. That's great. And Mark Kaiserman comes to slam me as well.

[00:13:25] Says " Common Sense Media, when you get a 10 plus on Common Sense Media, that isn't a quality rating, that just means it's suitable for ages 10 and older."

[00:13:33] Oh. Oh man, I really misread the whole thing. Uh, and Mark also says,

[00:13:38] "I love every episode. I'm excited to see Jason on Broadway next month."

[00:13:41] Well, mark, by the way, there's another plug for you. Jason will be on Broadway in uh, All Out, I believe it's called. Uh, it's great. Check out Jason on Broadway. Uh, great cast running through there. Uh, kind of like, uh, just a who's who of great funny people. Um, alright, so sorry about Common Sense Media. My mistake. We are now working in a different place. So thank you Meredith, for correcting me.

[00:14:06] Uh, back to the Discord,

[00:14:08] "Why is Matthew in the locker room when Hugh Mann is taken there by Santa's elf? I mean, Hugh just got the job in the lobby with Matthew only moments earlier. So why was Matthew naked and putting his work clothes back on after he just met Hugh in the lobby? I mean, did he run into the locker room and take off his clothes just to drop towel in front of Santa? I mean, that's kind of sexual harassment."

[00:14:28] Steve, you're a hundred percent right. I mean. Matthew is fucking freaky. He is a real freaky motherfucker. I, I didn't realize it was just right after. I thought there was like, some time had passed, but I guess you're right. I guess it was just immediate. And you know what?

[00:14:45] When you gotta take off your clothes and show off your schlong, you gotta do it. And that's, that is the God-given right of any nepo baby. Do not question it. And before we close up corrections and omissions, let's go back to the phone line to hear from a couple of folks calling in about the Howdie Awards.

[00:15:00] Oh yes, the Howdie Awards is back. We wanna do a new thing now where we're gonna start doing the Howdie awards again, but we wanna keep track of it. So, uh, when you hear something that could be a Howdie moment, let us know. Maybe we even start a little forum on, uh, the Discord, uh, Howdie moment. Just submit a nomination for Howdie moment.

[00:15:17] You don't need to explain it more, just say in this episode, this moment. Then that way at the end of the year, if you have a time code, whew, it'd be great. But, uh, by the end of the year it'd be way easier for us to do not, we wouldn't just put it off for nine years. Anyway, anonymous. Uh, take it away. 

[00:15:30] Listener: I noticed during the latest Howdies that in terms of international guest, uh, you mentioned many people but did not refer to Seth Rogan as an international guest. My question is, are you or I should say is How Did This Get Made standing with President Trump in trying to make Canada the 51st state? Is that your, your way of signaling that? Just the thought I had. Appreciate you. 

[00:16:04] Paul Scheer: Wow. Wow. Okay. First of all, look, I, I, you know I'm wrong. I'm taking a lot of hits today. I know Seth is Canadian. I respect, uh, Seth's Canadian heritage. I believe that Canada should stay where it is should not be part of our country. Now, Greenland, I got a whole different opinion on, uh, Greenland. Let's fucking, let's take it. Let's take it, let's take it all. Let's take it all. No, but Canada gets to stay. I love Canada, love our Canadians. Uh, and uh, I apologize. And you know what? It's my, my, uh, ineptitude of, uh, geography. Uh, and I, I take full credit for this, so I apologize, uh, to Seth Rogan, but I, I believe that Seth Rogan was nominated though too for that category. He was. I know he was anyway, uh, Liz from Detroit. What do you got? 

[00:16:59] Listener: Hi. Um, I'm a doctor, so I'm answering your call, um, for an answer of where does the butt start. Um, my impression was what you were asking was sort of like, where does the butt start from the front? Like where does crotch end and butt begin?

[00:17:15] Which is a very good question. Um, and the simple answer to that is that we have, um, this lovely little strip of tissue. Um, and our pelvic region's called the perineum. Um, so you have your genitalia, genitalia stop. Then you have perineum or more commonly known, uh, the taint. Um, and then you will have your, um, anus.

[00:17:37] So I would say technically where the butt starts is where the anus starts now. As to the other end, I think this is where people were getting confused as they were asking where it started on, like from the, from the back end. And I guess the answers that you got were, I guess, technically correct, um, if we're thinking of gluteal region and, but as kind of synonymous, um, your gluteal muscles do, um, originate from the ileum, specifically the iliac crest, um, which is the top part of your pelvic bone. And so, um, I won't go into any more detail than that because anatomists are annoying and anatomy is annoying. But, um, yeah. So I would say, um, overall, I don't know. I kind of have a holistic view of like the, the butt region, I would say includes butt cheeks, um, butt crack or gluteal cleft and butt hole. So that is where the but starts on. Alright, thank you. Have a wonderful day folks. 

[00:18:39] Paul Scheer: Alright Liz. Throwing. Well, where were you? Where were you for the Howdies? We should have started with you. That's a better and less, uh, perturbed explanation. I appreciate that. Liz. I salute you from the top of the head. Uh, which is where, where the salute starts.

[00:18:56] I don't know. Uh, thank you, Liz. Thank you to our anonymous Canadian. These are important, uh, corrections to get out there. So many great corrections and omissions this week. A lot of them coming after me, uh, which, you know, look, I, you know, I, I get, but I, I, I think to me, you know, I wanna go and celebrate the, the corrections and omissions that really stand out, the ones that do a little bit more of the work.

[00:19:23] And I'm gonna say that this week, Nixed and Johnny Unusual get to split the award because they effectively rewrote the movie in about eight lines or less. And you know what? I wish I could give you your own, uh, whatever Netflix movie, but I can't, I can only give you this song from the Amazing Bears in Love.

[00:19:44] Hit it.

[00:19:51] Music: [Winner's Song] 

[00:19:54] Paul Scheer: If you wanna chime in with your own thoughts or the latest episode, hit up our discord or call us at 619 P-A-U-L-A-S-K. That's 6 1 9 Paul Ask.

[00:20:01] Coming up after a quick break, Jason will chat with Ted Danson and I will announce our next movie. Stick Around.

[00:20:09] Alright everybody, welcome back. I know that matinee episodes have been a highlight in many people's feeds.

[00:20:15] We replay old episodes last week. We featured, uh, the movie Ultraviolet with Nick Weger and Mike Mitchell, and next week's matinee will be Grease 2, with Anna Ferris because you asked for it. That's right. Uh, we can maybe even, is there another part of the discord for that. Ask for what you want. Uh, back in the, uh, the matinee folder there.

[00:20:33] I, I like the, we got Grease 2 back out there 'cause a fan wanted it. And, uh, now without any further ado, instead of Just Chat this week, we're gonna play you a little tease from Jason's recent guest appearance on Ted Danson's podcast Where Everybody Knows Your Name. If you haven't listened to it before, Where Everybody Knows Your Name is the podcast where Ted and his, sometimes co-host Woody Harrelson,

[00:20:53] go deep with the people who inspire them, like John Mulaney, Carol Burnett, Quinta Brunson, Dick Van Dyke, and so many more. And today they're inspired by Jason Mantzoukas. That's right in the clip you're about to hear. You'll hear Ted and Jason talk all about working together on season two of Netflix's A Man On the Inside, and also on The Good Place.

[00:21:11] Ted, take it away. 

[00:21:13] Ted Danson: Working with you, and the last thing we just did together, which just came out by the way, 

[00:21:18] Jason Mantzoukas: A Man on the Inside. Season two. 

[00:21:19] Ted Danson: Season two. And you are, um, very funny and a little wacky and all of that, but I remember, um, trying to start to leave because we had a little side scene and then the, the. 

[00:21:36] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:21:37] Ted Danson: The other scene was going on in the other room. And you. 

[00:21:39] Jason Mantzoukas: That you needed to go join. 

[00:21:40] Ted Danson: That I needed, my character needed to go join and so I was trying to get away, but you kept adding little very funny things and then I start to walk, oh, you're leaving? You know? 

[00:21:51] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. 

[00:21:51] Ted Danson: Oh, I, you know, you would call out.

[00:21:53] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. 

[00:21:53] Ted Danson: What, what was happen happening.

[00:21:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. Oh no, that's like a classic for me. That's a classic move to just say out loud what's currently happening in the scene. To me, the actor. 

[00:22:03] Ted Danson: Yeah. 

[00:22:03] Jason Mantzoukas: Like, oh, are we done? 

[00:22:04] Ted Danson: With our scene? 

[00:22:05] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay. Oh, talk to you later. You know, like, yeah, just like, yeah. All that kind of stuff. Just again, seeding. It's what you were talking about earlier of like, oh, some people are chasing a big button. Yeah. They think like, oh, I'm, and then at the end I'm gonna clobber it with this big line. Yeah. Or this big joke or something or other. And I'd much rather sprinkle a bit of weirdness at the end. 

[00:22:26] Ted Danson: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

[00:22:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Like a, like something that's just like, wait, what was that? What was that? Weird little, yeah, little aside. 

[00:22:31] Ted Danson: But your weird thing didn't come out of nowhere, which is, I would argue what Sandy Meiser would hate. Nothing before. It came off of me. 

[00:22:39] Jason Mantzoukas: It came off of exactly what you were doing.

[00:22:41] Ted Danson: Yeah. 

[00:22:41] Jason Mantzoukas: Which was you were trying to extricate yourself. 

[00:22:43] Ted Danson: Yeah. 

[00:22:43] Jason Mantzoukas: From talking to me, you, your character doesn't want to talk to me anymore. 

[00:22:46] Ted Danson: Yeah. 

[00:22:47] Jason Mantzoukas: And so for me to just call that out was very funny. 

[00:22:50] Ted Danson: I have my version or actors who aren't good at improvisation have their version, which is, I really came up with something, a, a way to do this last night that I wanna show you now.

[00:23:00] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Yes. 

[00:23:00] Ted Danson: While the cameras are rolling. 

[00:23:02] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, no. And I think that's, that's, I mean, 99% of people on sets are prepared, uh, you know, are, are, have made choices already or are have, have worked on this, you know, I'm only now in life, getting better at working on things. Like really script analysis and really digging in on stuff.

[00:23:21] That's, that's, I did it in reverse, you know what I mean? Like I am so, I'm so much more comfortable on a set that I can improvise on than a set that is, requires me to be kind of word perfect. You know? That's a much harder endeavor for me and much more daunting. 

[00:23:38] Ted Danson: Yeah. For me too, my brain. 

[00:23:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. But I will say like watching you, it seems effortless. You know? It is. 

[00:23:49] Ted Danson: I have a crapload of psoriasis under my wardrobe. 

[00:23:52] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm sure. 

[00:23:52] Ted Danson: As a result of looking effortless.

[00:23:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. But it really is like it's, it is, you know, I've been watching you since I was a kid, you know, whether on TV or on sets as an adult. And it is, it's a cool process. 

[00:24:07] Ted Danson: Thank you. 

[00:24:07] Jason Mantzoukas: It's cool to watch you slip into these guys, you know? And, and that like, especially The Good Place that mischievous evil, that like twinkle. Yeah, that's, I mean that's. 

[00:24:19] That's incredible. 

[00:24:20] Ted Danson: I had no idea how to play the first season. 'cause I didn't know. 

[00:24:23] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. You didn't wanna tip it. 

[00:24:24] Ted Danson: Because you. No. You couldn't tip it. 

[00:24:25] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. 

[00:24:26] Ted Danson: You had to, if people were to look back, which they do 'cause they watch it over and over again, that show. 

[00:24:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Mm-hmm. 

[00:24:32] Ted Danson: I love that. But you have to go, this is real in the moment, uh, for the audience watching. 'cause they don't know the twist. 

[00:24:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. 

[00:24:40] Ted Danson: And if you look back, knowing the twist, it has to be real as well and to the point where I couldn't go, 'cause not everyone knew this on the set. 

[00:24:49] Jason Mantzoukas: You couldn't ask questions. 

[00:24:50] Ted Danson: No. 

[00:24:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Because nobody, yeah. 

[00:24:51] Ted Danson: And the director was. 

[00:24:52] Jason Mantzoukas: And also you needed to play a character who in success, you could continue to play in season two without having to make it a new guy who now is evil.

[00:25:00] Ted Danson: Yes. 

[00:25:00] Jason Mantzoukas: You know? 

[00:25:00] Ted Danson: Yeah. 

[00:25:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Uh, it's, no, it's gotta be.

[00:25:03] Ted Danson: I heard so many directors who, uh, who didn't know this, they only told. 

[00:25:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, the directors didn't? 

[00:25:08] Ted Danson: No. 

[00:25:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, I didn't know that. 

[00:25:09] Ted Danson: Yeah. 

[00:25:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, that's cool. 

[00:25:10] Ted Danson: I mean, one or two. 

[00:25:11] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

[00:25:11] Ted Danson: Who were in, in the beginning of the process. 

[00:25:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Sure. Drew and whoever else.

[00:25:14] Ted Danson: Drew. Got it. Yes. So I would go, I'd go, Hey, I have a, uh, talking to the wrong person. Sorry. Excuse me. 

[00:25:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Where's Morgan? 

[00:25:22] Ted Danson: Where's Morgan. 

[00:25:25] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah, that what a, what a singular challenge though. 

[00:25:28] Ted Danson: Yeah. 

[00:25:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Like I feel like actors talk about having a secret all the time. It, it, like, I dunno if that's still a relevant thing, but you know, like that idea of, that that cliche of an actor has a secret, but like, you really did have a, your character had a secret, and that is, that is a , I didn't see, I think of myself as a very savvy TV watcher, movie watcher. That twist shocked me. Like I was, yeah. It got me, I was so, 'cause I, I was so in on the show and then that I didn't, that I didn't see it coming was so incredibly delightful. I'm so rarely surprised. Yeah. That it really, it really got me. 

[00:26:05] Ted Danson: I can thank my friend John Krasinski for not being a blabber. Because even before we started shooting, he was going off. Uh, I had just gotten The Good Place. Yeah. And we're about to shoot and he just gotten some big movie and was gonna go do this huge, amazing.

[00:26:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Probably The Quiet Place. So you guys were both in the place, you guys were both in places. Good. And it. 

[00:26:28] Ted Danson: No, but it's kind of that story because, uh, I was slightly jealous. 

[00:26:33] Jason Mantzoukas: You guys mostly work in place-based things. 

[00:26:35] Ted Danson: Yes. Only place based. And this is why he said what he said to me when I de described said, Hey, I want him to know that I was gonna do something.

[00:26:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Mm-hmm. 

[00:26:43] Ted Danson: Cool too. 'cause he was gonna go Yeah. A big fucking movie star. So I went, Hey, I'm gonna be working with your friend Mike Schur.

[00:26:48] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. 

[00:26:48] Ted Danson: He, you worked together in The Office and Oh yeah. I'm, and yeah, it's, uh, it's um, I play this architect, it takes place in the afterlife and I'm an architect who designs this whole village community for the afterlife. And I could see his eyes go, oh, okay, yeah, it's The Office, but in heaven. And I saw that and I went, no, no, you don't understand because at the end of the first season, I become the, you discovered that I'm actually the, the devil. And he went, oh, that's good. And I went, yeah, fuckin A it's good.

[00:27:21] Jason Mantzoukas: It's good. 

[00:27:21] Ted Danson: And I walked up feeling going, oh fuck. 

[00:27:23] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh no. Oh no. Why did I have to? Why did I have to big time? 

[00:27:29] Ted Danson: But wait, moving back. 

[00:27:30] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, please, please, please. 

[00:27:31] Ted Danson: Because another thing, another thing that makes you such a good film actor, you UCB folks, is because it's the camera. I love this. Camera. I think I always want to act for many reasons, but one is to get it right.

[00:27:47] Jason Mantzoukas: Mm-hmm. 

[00:27:48] Ted Danson: It's 50 50 at best, and I'm giving myself credit to say 50 50 that I will truly be in the moment. 

[00:27:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Right. 

[00:27:57] Ted Danson: You can get close to the moment, but then you're, then you, a part of your brain goes, wow, look at me. I'm in the moment. And then you're out. 

[00:28:03] Jason Mantzoukas: Right. 

[00:28:04] Ted Danson: And the camera sees that. 

[00:28:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. 

[00:28:06] Ted Danson: The camera knows whether you are truly in a position to surprise yourself. Cause you don't know it's coming. 

[00:28:12] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. 

[00:28:13] Ted Danson: You know, because you're so lost in the moment, or no, you're just now giving me a facsimile of something. 

[00:28:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. 

[00:28:21] Ted Danson: Of being in the moment. 

[00:28:23] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. And a lot of times I feel like that can look like what you prepared. 

[00:28:27] Ted Danson: But if you, you, Mr. UCB, are part of a group trying to find out where this group is going next, you can't be phoning it in. Everything's. 

[00:28:37] Jason Mantzoukas: You'll miss discovery. 

[00:28:37] Ted Danson: Everything where it's going. 

[00:28:38] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. 

[00:28:38] Ted Danson: It's all discovery. It's all curiosity. 

[00:28:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. 

[00:28:41] Ted Danson: Which is my new favorite fucking, I love that word, life right now at my age, maybe when I approached seventies gratitude became a very valuable word.

[00:28:51] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay. 

[00:28:51] Ted Danson: And real. 

[00:28:51] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

[00:28:52] Ted Danson: You know, be grateful. 

[00:28:53] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. 

[00:28:54] Ted Danson: Ted. How'd you get everything you got? I don't know. Yeah, just say thank you. You know how much more? I don't know. Thank you. You know, just stay there. My new word though is curiosity. 

[00:29:05] Jason Mantzoukas: Big time. 

[00:29:06] Ted Danson: Stay fucking curious. 

[00:29:08] Jason Mantzoukas: And that is, and I will say, I. One of the things that all my, like all my characters have, is deep curiosity. Like a lot of times. 

[00:29:17] Ted Danson: That's true. 

[00:29:18] Jason Mantzoukas: They all want to know everybody else in the show more. 

[00:29:23] Ted Danson: Yes. 

[00:29:24] Jason Mantzoukas: And, but there're almost always people that, everybody else in this show is like, can this guy get outta here? Can we get rid of this guy?

[00:29:30] Ted Danson: Yes. 

[00:29:30] Jason Mantzoukas: But like. Like Apollo on A Man on the Inside, like that Thanksgiving episode, all Apollo wanted to do, as far as I was concerned, was make friends.

[00:29:39] Ted Danson: Yeah. 

[00:29:39] Jason Mantzoukas: He's just there to make friends. You know, Calbert make, I'm, I'm making friends with Cal. 

[00:29:44] Ted Danson: Yeah. 

[00:29:44] Jason Mantzoukas: This every, you know, everybody that, that my guy meets, curious, I wanna know more. 

[00:29:51] Ted Danson: And your curiosity isn't to then have a one up or have anything that's on a negative or, or sad or anything. Your curiosity. The payoff is, well, I'll be, damn. 

[00:30:03] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. 

[00:30:03] Ted Danson: Oh my God, this is amazing. 

[00:30:05] Jason Mantzoukas: More specificity. Is more like, and you know what? And this thing we just figured out, I'm into it too. 

[00:30:10] Ted Danson: Yeah. 

[00:30:10] Jason Mantzoukas: You know? And, and then you're just finding weird little pockets of stuff that a lot of times can just be ephemera that they're never gonna use.

[00:30:20] Ted Danson: Yeah. 

[00:30:20] Jason Mantzoukas: But then every once in a while it makes it into the cut and I'm like, oh, whoa, they used that? Cool. 

[00:30:24] Ted Danson: I feel like I've graciously gone along with that, I'm 77. 

[00:30:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Mm-hmm. 

[00:30:29] Ted Danson: You know, like, wow, you're 77. Look at Yeah, da da. You know, I just, and then I watch myself on TV and it's like, fuck. 

[00:30:36] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. 

[00:30:36] Ted Danson: I'm 77. 

[00:30:38] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah.

[00:30:38] Ted Danson: It's so disturbing. 

[00:30:40] Jason Mantzoukas: I felt when I turned on the, this season, uh, of the show, I was like, oh, whoa. I'm so much grayer than I was the last time I think I appeared on television. 

[00:30:51] Ted Danson: Yeah. 

[00:30:51] Jason Mantzoukas: You know, even though I see myself in the mirror every day. 

[00:30:54] Ted Danson: Yeah, yeah. 

[00:30:54] Jason Mantzoukas: My mind is lying to me. 

[00:30:56] Ted Danson: Yeah. 

[00:30:56] Jason Mantzoukas: But when it's right there on tv, I'm like, oh, that guy's older. That guy's older than I thought he was. 

[00:31:01] Ted Danson: Yeah. So my process is that I watch it again. 

[00:31:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. 

[00:31:04] Ted Danson: And I wipe my tears away going, well, I guess it's not that bad. And then I watch it a third time. I go, oh fuck, there are other actors in this scene. 

[00:31:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. 

[00:31:13] Ted Danson: Oh, you know. Oh yeah. Oh good. Oh, this is good. 

[00:31:15] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, it's like that thing you do you, because do you do this, like, let's say you're watching a scene from, uh, A Man on the Inside and but one of these big group scenes. Do you watch yourself when someone else is talking? 

[00:31:28] Ted Danson: I, I'm trying to figure out what you mean by someone else is talking. No. To someone else? 

[00:31:33] Jason Mantzoukas: You mean the other act? The other, but you know what I mean? Like sometimes I'm like, why am I even looking at me right now? 

[00:31:38] Ted Danson: Yeah. 

[00:31:38] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm not the one talking like, yeah, nobody's looking at me right now. Because sometimes I'll be like in that way that I'm so oftentimes chasing a moment or a something to improvise. 

[00:31:52] Ted Danson: Yeah. 

[00:31:53] Jason Mantzoukas: I can sometimes see Jason, the improviser there. 

[00:31:57] Ted Danson: Yeah. 

[00:31:57] Jason Mantzoukas: Instead of Apollo or Derek or, you know, uh, uh, Adrian Pimento or whatever. I instead see me who just had a clever idea. 

[00:32:07] Ted Danson: Yeah.

[00:32:08] Jason Mantzoukas: And is now, and is now just waiting to unload it, you know? And I'm like, oh, this fucking idiot. Why can't I even cover with a bit of a performance so that I can strike with a, with a, with a great line. But no, I can see all the mechanics in my mind, but it's almost always happening while someone else is talking.

[00:32:27] So hopefully nobody's looking at me because that's, that's what it is for me. It's that same thing of like, oh man, I wish I'd done that better. I wish, I just wish I wasn't chasing that, that bit or that joke or whatever. Or I, I can quibble with all of it, you know? Uh, I'm confidently there, but when I watch it back, I'm full of 

[00:32:46] Ted Danson: Yes. No, I agree. 

[00:32:47] Jason Mantzoukas: Self-recrimination. 

[00:32:47] Ted Danson: I'm, I'm whoever my favorite actor is when I'm working. 

[00:32:51] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. 

[00:32:51] Ted Danson: But when I watch, I'm just this judgmental dick. 

[00:32:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Totally. Really completely. Oh, absolutely. I get that. I think we all are. 

[00:32:58] Ted Danson: Yeah. 

[00:32:58] Jason Mantzoukas: And it, and that's why I think a lot of people don't watch their stuff. 

[00:33:01] Ted Danson: Yeah. 

[00:33:01] Jason Mantzoukas: I do. I don't. And 'cause I also think of it as kind of a learning experience. It's, I get better because I watch it. 

[00:33:07] Ted Danson: And it's humbling. Humbling is good. 

[00:33:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah. And I, and God forbid if I was out here not watching it back and just walking off sets being like. Just like Rocky. Yeah look at me, I fucking did it and then I watch it back and I'm like, oh God. 

[00:33:24] Ted Danson: Yeah. 

[00:33:24] Jason Mantzoukas: That's trash. What am I doing? 

[00:33:26] Ted Danson: Somewhere in between is probably true. So better to be there. 

[00:33:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, and, and some, and that is how I always feel somewhere in between is the actual performance.

[00:33:35] Paul Scheer: Well, welcome back.

[00:33:36] I hope you enjoyed that snippet of Jason's chat with Ted Danson. If you wanna hear the entire conversation, look for the full episode on the Where Everybody Knows Your Name podcast feed.

[00:33:44] Okay, now it is almost the end of the show, which means it is time to announce our next movie. Next week we'll be doing some reverse evolution as we go from Hugh Mann to Mon Key?

[00:33:53] That's right. We're watching the 2001 Comic Fantasy Monkey Bone, starring Brendan Frazier, Bridget Fonda and Chris Kattan. Now, uh, Monkey Bone has a pretty amazing supporting cast with actors like Giancarlo Esposito, Bob Odenkirk, Rose McGowan, John Turturro, Meghan Mullaly, Dave Foley, and Whoopi Goldberg. Now, IMDB describes the plot as this.

[00:34:14] "In a coma, a cartoonist finds himself trapped within his own underground creation and must find a way to get back to reality while racing against his popular but treacherous character Monkey Bone, which"

[00:34:25] This is Paul speaking now, is a boner. Yep. This movie is about a man's boner keeping him down.

[00:34:34] You heard me right. Rotten Tomatoes gives this film a 21% score on the tomato meter, and Rick Groan from The Globe and The Mail wrote,

[00:34:40] "Why do I still have a soft spot for this flick? Because, there are glimmers of intelligence in this mess because it must have driven the marketing department crazy and because it fails so differently than all those run of the mill failures."

[00:34:55] You know what? Honestly, Rick, I'm with you. I am with you. Next week we're gonna have some very special guests that will fall on both sides of the love it, hate it spectrum. But before we do any of that, listen to the trailer.

[00:35:08] Trailer Audio: From the director of the Nightmare Before Christmas, Stu Miley was dropped into a whole new world.

[00:35:14] Hello? Am I dead?

[00:35:16] Hi boss.

[00:35:17] Now he has 24 hours to find a way out or he'll lose everything.

[00:35:22] The woman I love is living with a little monkey that looks like me.

[00:35:26] Ow.

[00:35:27] What a lucky girl.

[00:35:28] Brendan Fraser, Bridget Fonda, Chris Kattan.

[00:35:32] Monkey Bone. 

[00:35:33] Be right back after I choke my monkey!

[00:35:34] Pg 13. 

[00:35:35] Paul Scheer: You can stream Monkey Bone for free on the Hoopla app through many local public libraries. Or you can rent it on Apple Tv, Amazon Prime, or Fandango at Home.

[00:35:44] Alright, people, you got your work cut out for you. You're gonna listen to Ted Danson's podcast. You're gonna watch my documentary about Swifty Dads, you could check out Jason on Broadway. And honestly, if you, you haven't watched Weapons, I'm shocked that that movie didn't get nominated for, uh, more stuff, like at least a screenplay award, right? Should have gotten that. Haven't seen it getting nominated for too much stuff. But June's in that, and that's why I bring it up. Anyway, that's it for Last Looks. If you listen to us on Apple Podcast or Spotify, please rate and review us. Also, make sure you're following us and have automatic downloads turned on.

[00:36:16] It helps to show and we appreciate it. And you can visit us on social media @HDTGM, and a big thank you to our producer, Scott Sonne, Molly Reynolds, and our engineer Casey Holford, as well as our social media manager, Zoe Applebaum. We'll forever be thankful to the one and only Avaryl Halley, who got us here, and we'll see you next week for Monkey Bone.