Was Antonio Saboto Jr.'s character moonlighting as a drag queen? And was Melvin Smiley based on a character in Murder, She Wrote? Paul finds answers to these questions and more when he responds to your corrections & omissions on last week's The Big Hit episode. Then, Jason pops in to chat with Paul about Widow's Bay, Taskmaster, and many more TV shows they're currently loving. And you know at the end of the episode Paul announces next week's new movie! JASON & PAUL'S RECS: Widow's Bay Taskmaster (Season 21) Fatiha El-Ghorri's short film "Donkey" Last One Laughing UK (Season 2) The Fall and Rise of Reggie Dinkins Dark Winds (Season 4) The Comeback (Season 3) Star Wars: Maul - Shadow Lord Film Club The Gold Soviet Jeans
Was Antonio Saboto Jr.'s character moonlighting as a drag queen? And was Melvin Smiley based on a character in Murder, She Wrote? Paul finds answers to these questions and more when he responds to your corrections & omissions on last week's The Big Hit episode. Then, Jason pops in to chat with Paul about Widow's Bay, Taskmaster, and many more TV shows they're currently loving. And you know at the end of the episode Paul announces next week's new movie!
JASON & PAUL'S RECS:
Fatiha El-Ghorri's short film "Donkey"
Last One Laughing UK (Season 2)
The Fall and Rise of Reggie Dinkins
[00:00:00] Paul Scheer: Drag queens, ghosts, and a little Murder She Wrote. All this and more on this week's Last Looks. Hit the theme.
[00:00:34] Music: [Last Looks Intro Song]
[00:00:35] Paul Scheer: Hello to all my break dancing assassins. I am your host and people-pleasing hit man, Paul Scheer, and welcome to How Did This Get Made: Last Looks, where you, the listener, get to voice your issues on The Big Hit, a movie that Discord user You Brace Yourself thinks should have had the tagline, "The Big Hit: these rental fees just might cost you your life."
[00:00:50] All right, thank you, You Brace Yourself, for that alt tagline. A big shout-out to Latex Drool for today's opening theme song. And remember, if you have a alt movie tagline, submit it to us on our Discord at Discord.gg/HDTGM. And if you have a Last Looks theme song, go to HDTGM.com and click on a Submit a Song button on our homepage.
[00:01:13] Remember, keep them short. 15 to 20 seconds is best. Coming up on today's episode, we're gonna be hearing all your corrections and omissions on The Big Hit. Then Jason will join me for a Just Chat. We're gonna talk about our new favorite show. Uh, also just kinda check in. We haven't gotten a chance to really break down all the things that we've been excited about, but, uh, I gotta talk about Widows' Bay, and we do it in a way where there's no spoilers.
[00:01:38] So if you haven't watched yet, uh, we're just gonna psych you up. And if you have watched, it's just confirming you have great taste. Anyway, as always, at the end of the show, I will reveal the movie that we'll be covering for next week's episode. People- Heads up, we're gonna be back at Largo in Los Angeles on June 5th.
[00:01:56] Snag your tickets now at HDTGM.com. We will announce the movie soon, so keep on checking back in. Dinosaur Improv will be at the Del Close Marathon in New York City on June 12th and 13th. You can get info at Dinosaurimprov.com. It's all part of the Del Close Marathon. And if you've never been to the Del Close Marathon, or you, if you are a giant fan, I'm gonna tell you that I'm gonna be doing a, a, a retrospective on What's in the Dumpster with Chris Gethard.
[00:02:23] Uh, we're gonna do a reunion of Match Game 76 on Saturday night. Uh, also gonna be joining the George Lucas talk show. So many great shows that weekend. It's, uh, June 11th, 12th, and 13th. Come out, check out Dinosaur. We're doing two big shows and also so many fun small shows around, uh, the horn. All right, that is it for all the plugs and let's get into it.
[00:02:46] Last week we talked at length about The Big Hit. Well, we had questions and we might have even missed a few things. Here's your chance to set us straight. Fact check us if you will. It is now time for Corrections and Omissions.
[00:02:57] Music: [Corrections and Omissions Song]
[00:02:57] Paul Scheer: Thank you, Wally Tarkington, for that theme song. Now, before I get into your comments, I'm sure you've heard in our episode that June and I had this disagreement about whether they established the character Keiko to be in college despite clearly seeming like she was in high school.
[00:03:12] Now, after we recorded the episode, we did find and insert a clip from the movie where Keiko's dad does say the line, "I need to pick up my daughter at college." So June, you've been corrected. But yes, I also acknowledge it was creepy and probably a fix that was done in ADR. But I did hear that line, so I feel vindicated.
[00:03:33] All right, let's go to the Discord. Firebirt says,
[00:03:36] "As a Trekkie, my mind always focused on Avery Brooks' character Paris in this movie. He feels like the one person who's doing a mostly serious badass character while everyone else is doing Looney Tunes. But I also have to point out how weird it is that they named Lou Diamond Phillips' character Cisko. I mean, sure it's a different spelling, but it's just so weird to have the name of Avery Brooks' Star Trek character Captain Sisko. It would be like naming a character Picard in a Patrick Stewart movie."
[00:04:06] I gotta say, I agree with you 100%, but here's the thing. Avery Brooks is so badass in this movie that I forget that he's Sisko because he's carrying himself completely different.
[00:04:17] So I can separate the Star Trek from the man. Not always, but I can in this. Uh, Picard would be unforgivable.
[00:04:26] BB Max writes,
[00:04:27] "While the meal prep scene was essential to discuss, let's talk about, uh, the kitchen fire afterwards. Melvin enters the kitchen to find the whole uncut chicken on fire while it sits in an uncovered pan on the stove top. Can you even cook a whole chicken this way? I mean, let alone a chicken getting hot enough to burst into flames."
[00:04:52] Yes, I believe that the same amount of research they put into, uh, cutting wires in this movie they put into cooking chicken. There's no way that a chicken would burst into flames, especially in that short of a period of time.
[00:05:08] Um, I don't think-- I've never really started a fire in the house. Smoke, sure, but this chicken seems like it was based in kerosene to kind of ignite. I'm looking at a, an image of it right now. It is literally impossible, and you're not-- no one is cooking, uh, no one's cooking a stove chicken, a rotisserie chicken on a stove top.
[00:05:29] Uh, that doesn't happen. I mean, you know, there's stove top stuffing. That's on a stove top, but not stove top chicken. All right, let's go to the phones. Anthony from Florida.
[00:05:40] Listener: Hi, Paul, Jason, and June. Um, this is Anthony. I am also a former video store clerk. Um, in 1998, I got my first ever DVD player, and one of the movies I got was The Big Hit, and I just wanted to say that in the deleted scenes, they showed what happened to Vince.
[00:05:58] Um, Antonio Sabàto Jr. had a drag show to go to, so at one point he shows back up and he's in full drag and he's like, "Hey, I told you I had that thing to do this weekend." So that's where he was. Um, I have no idea why they didn't keep that in the movie.
[00:06:15] Paul Scheer: Oh my G- This is why this movie is kind of amazing and awful at the same time.
[00:06:21] It's like, what a wild choice. All right, so he was going to a drag show? That- that's, uh, enough? Uh, like, do we know that? Is that part of the mo- Like, or was he unavailable and they made a joke? There's things in this movie, and I don't wanna point out too many things. There's some interesting conversation on the Discord about some ADR lines in here that are covering up some way more offensive words, uh, especially out of the mouth of Lou Diamond Phillips.
[00:06:50] I don't mean to bash Lou Diamond, but it feels like there was a bro vibe going on. That's what I'm talking about. This movie brought me back to a year, a very specific year in time that I feel like all bad things happened. It was a ba- it was bad. It wasn't like... It's not even like bro culture, like, "Oh man, you gu- can't take a joke."
[00:07:07] It was... No. It was, it was like- Axe-- The advent of Axe body spray. Remember that commercial where a girl was, like, humping, uh, a fucking, uh, water line because a guy above her was showering and, like, his tub, like, his pipe is, like, in an apartment building, and so she's, like, fucking humping the pipe 'cause she's, she's so turned on?
[00:07:29] Anyway, that's what this movie is, a girl humping a water pipe from the guy above her wearing Axe body spray. Uh, Dr. Guts, uh, continues to, uh, add some more color to Anthony Sabato Jr.'s whole drag queen plot line 'cause you know what? We do need to go a little bit deeper. Um.
[00:07:50] "In the DVD, there are these deleted scenes, uh, where we do actually see a entire subplot, uh, where Vince does moonlight as a drag queen."
[00:08:01] Again, I, I'm not, I'm not yucking it. I'm just like, "Why? Why do we need it? Uh, so there... The scenes they have, it's like he shows up in full drag to pick up the garbage bags and the body parts. Um, you know, so there is images of him, and he looks like a more masculine, uh, Liza Minnelli. Uh, you know, it's like Liza Minnelli meets Cher.
[00:08:25] Uh, not masculine. I would say muscular. Uh, that's what we're looking at here. God bless this movie for making big swings, and again, I never like to rip on a movie that takes chances, but again, I don't feel like these chances were from the people you want to take chances with. Uh, Luke from Portland, what do you got?
[00:08:42] Listener: Hey, Paul. This is Luke. I'm listening to the Big Hit episode right now. Lots of talk about movie rental shops. I just want to bring up, give a recommendation to come and visit Movie Madness in Portland next time you're here. It's an amazing movie rental shop. It's a part museum. They have 90,000 titles. I think it's the biggest movie, uh, rental shop this side of the Mississippi, maybe in the whole United States.
[00:09:13] Think you would really like to see it. Um, I'd also be wondering if you know of any other great movie rental shops around the country that, you know, still exist. It's, it's still a great thing, so great episode. Thanks. Bye.
[00:09:26] Paul Scheer: I love this. I did not know about this. I've been to Portland so many times. I will definitely come and visit, and I'm so glad you brought this up because I just got, um, an email from a friend, uh, about this brand-new place that is opening in LA.
[00:09:42] It's actually in Vegas as well. It's called Back to the Video Store, and it is a speakeasy, uh, like '90s Y2K video bar. And I will tell you that just based on what I've seen from it, it looks- really fun. Uh, it's not traditionally what you are describing. It's not a... You know, it's a bar, but it's a themed out bar and, uh, it's like you're drinking in a Blockbuster.
[00:10:10] I, I think it looks awesome. I have not been, but it's opening in LA and I will report back to you. But if you wanna follow them online or go see them when you're in Vegas, uh, back to the video store. But more importantly, we will visit Movie Madness. I mean, I need a little bit of video store energy. I was so upset when I was not cast in that Netflix show about, um, the Blockbuster.
[00:10:33] I was like, "Wait a second. That was... I did that. I could get in that." Uh, anyway, uh, but I love the people who created it and they're amazing and, uh, all good friends. Anyway, let's go to our next call. Ooh, this one's anonymous.
[00:10:48] Listener: Hi. I just want to validate, uh, June's bathroom fears from the most recent episode.
[00:10:55] Um, although I've used more modern bathrooms with two doors, which are okay because they both lock securely, my grandmother had a bathroom in her house that had a door to a bedroom and a door to the hallway, neither of which had a lock, and there was sort of a, a housekeeping do not disturb type, uh, sign that you could put on the door and flip around.
[00:11:25] But any time I was in there as a kid, the whole time it was just like, is someone gonna walk by? Is someone nearby? Like, again, t-too far away from the door to be able to stop anything if someone starts opening it. Uh, so I definitely understand where June was coming from on that point.
[00:11:48] Paul Scheer: I'm glad that we are in a safe enough space to share. Yes, uh, you know, look, people don't recognize a closed bathroom door means someone might be in there. I always knock. I always knock just in case I don't know. What, what, what does it cost you? What does it cost you? Always knock. Not gonna disturb anybody if no one's there. You're only gonna help yourself and save someone from the worst embarrassment of their life. Uh, next up. Becky.
[00:12:22] Listener: Hi, guys. Uh, loved the episode. Thanks so much. Um, I just wondered, uh, if you would talk about Bokeem Woodbine's finger grip strengtheners. Uh, it was a heck of a little thing to add in an already kind of overstuffed, fun movie, and he seemed to have a very precious relationship with them. Wonder if you guys wanted to comment on that, um, in addition to all the great things you already commented on. Again, wonderful episode. Love the show. Thanks so much.
[00:12:47] Paul Scheer: Hmm, Becky. Did not, uh, notice this, but thankfully Scott, uh, did uh, show us. Oh, that thing. Yes. Okay, so Scott is showing me a picture of it.
[00:12:59] That was wild. It does not seem, uh... If you're not familiar with what Becky is talking about, the finger grip strengthener is that giant, like, it, it almost looks like a shield where it, it's like he is, um, I don't know, like, on like, a some sort of like weightlifting machine, but it's, i- it's... I would say if you put it in your hand, it would reach down to your, like, elbow.
[00:13:24] It's giant. Uh, yes, so he's always... I don't know why his fingers would need to be strengthened, but I guess I'm looking at it more as a palm thing, but I guess he wants that tension and that tightness. And at this point, I, I think, um, you know, this is a time before, uh, pocket vaginas. And, uh, you know, Bokeem could've been so much more focused if he just bought himself an appropriately sized, uh, sex toy.
[00:13:52] And, and, and I can only imagine that at this point in his, uh, life, the character's life, not Bokeem's life, that, uh, he would be awash in so many, uh, amazing sex toys that he would never have to worry about the gym of it all. But maybe he likes the gym. I mean, this is a, a bunch of guys who do like gyms. But I'm, I'm just assuming that his dick is gonna be beat up.
[00:14:12] It's going to be black and blue. It's not a good look for a dick to feel like it's gotten that much tension or grip on it. I don't think any part of the body it would be good for. Anyway Back to the Discord. So Todd W. talks about something that is very near and dear to my heart. He goes,
[00:14:28] "I can't make heads or tails of the locker room situation. Were we to believe that a ragtag group of freelance hitmen go to their office every morning and change clothes together in a locker room like they're football players and that they all shower together at the end of the day? I get having a warehouse or, you know, a building for your death squad to meet up and plan, but why on earth would they need a fully operating locker room where they can strip naked at the end of the day to change back into civilian clothes? I mean, when they appear to be wearing normal clothes for most of the time anyway. The one exception was their construction worker disguises, but why couldn't they just put those on, you know, at home or like, you know, the way that regular construction workers do?"
[00:15:06] I would even go one step further, Todd, and say, like, in a van. Uh, it's not like they were, uh, in a costume closet. They were naked, showering, brushing their teeth, and putting on deodorant in the locker room. This is not really the way I think freelance hitmen group operates. You know, maybe I'm the naive one. Um, now here's what I'll say. I read it slightly differently.
[00:15:27] Now, yes, Avery Brooks has this amazing office, and I feel like maybe it is in the same building. This is clearly on a higher level. Uh, I would think, okay, well, I work for Avery Brooks, and he gives me these great benefits, like a gym. And you know, at that point in your life, you're like, I-- Gym memberships were, uh, like in this time, oh, get a membership to Crunch, it was worth something.
[00:15:46] So There's a world in which we say, "Oh yeah, and part of working for me is you get to work out at my gym whenever you want." I buy that. I buy that a little bit. Here's the other thing I'll say, that these dudes just like to work out together. So they go to the-- like, this is, like, not part of the criminal world.
[00:16:02] This is just their, like, gym. They all belong to the same gym. Again, I don't know why a gym would be that high up, but I guess maybe that's my own thing. I, I just think of gyms being lower, but I guess, yeah, why not? They could be high up. Uh, all right. And lastly, we have a, a bespoke correction and omission because this is possibly one of my favorite, uh, like, nitpicks with a movie.
[00:16:25] This is from a friend of the show, Mel Tomlin, who, uh, is just amazing, runs her own, uh, bad movie nights. We often will exchange, uh, different takes on things. And Mel writes, uh,
[00:16:39] "As June mentioned, it was very weird that Mark Wahlberg's character was cheating on his fiancée with multiple women because he was a people pleaser, and it, it immediately made me think of a classic episode of Murder She Wrote. Now, there is an episode from 1987 titled 'If It's Thursday, It Must Be Beverly,' where during the course of the murder investigation, it is revealed that Deputy Jonathan Martin, whose wife was the murder victim," yikes, "had been sleeping with a different woman in Cabot Cove every day of the week, seemingly because he was also a people pleaser. He said he slept with one of the women because he didn't want to hurt her feelings."
[00:17:22] So I guess, you know, this is You know, um, it's not coming from me, but it's coming from Mel. June, you've been disproven once again, okay? Learn from me, learn from Mel. It- all the things are in there, okay? There's nothing that doesn't make sense in this movie, okay?
[00:17:42] We are gaslighting you right now, so take it. Uh, so many great corrections and omissions this week, but there can only be one that is the best. And I will say, honestly, yes, we've talked about burning chickens, we've talked about strength grips, we've talked about deleted scenes. But I will say, for anyone to draw the line from this movie to a mid, uh, a mid-series episode, not mid like in quality, but mid as in f- like how many seasons in, a, a mid-series episode of Murder She Wrote, and, and, and being able to use that to prove June wrong, well, guess what?
[00:18:23] Mel, you are this week's winner, and your prize for having the best submission is that we will be mailing you a bottle of premium hand lotion purchased by Bokeem Woodbine's character Crunch in the movie. Don't worry about sending us your address. We use, uh, TraceBuster on the message to track down your location, so you should be enjoying silky smooth hands courtesy of Crunch's lotion within three to five business days.
[00:18:47] By the way, uh, we didn't bring it up, but somebody did also bring up that there's no reason for, uh, that, uh, the man who invented TraceBusters would ever go broke because that technology is pretty fucking amazing.
[00:18:59] All right, uh, and for all of you who didn't, uh, win this amazing prize of the hand lotion, you can try your luck next episode by submitting your corrections and omissions on our Discord or by leaving us a voicemail at Speakpipe.com/HDTGM.
[00:19:11] And I gotta say, wow, the quality of these messages are just A+. Thank you for jumping on SpeakPipe. It sounds so much better, and I hope, uh, more and more people leave messages 'cause I love hearing your voices. Coming up after a quick break, Jason will join me for a Just Chat. Stick around.
[00:19:27] Welcome back. By now I'm sure you've all noticed that every Tuesday we re-release classic How Did This Get Made episodes into our feed in honor of the new Mortal Kombat movie in theaters. This week's classic episode was the original 1985 Mortal Kombat movie, and next week's classic re-release will be the best movie about a woman who falls in love with her dog.
[00:19:45] That's right, we are talking about Love on a Leash with our favorite co-host, Jessica St. Clair. So keep checking out all of our replays of classic episodes every Tuesday. And without any further ado, it is now time for Jason to pop in for a Just Chat. Chris Finke, play us in.
[00:20:09] Music: [Just Chat Song]
[00:20:09] Paul Scheer: Jason, I wanna get right into it.
[00:20:11] Jason Mantzoukas: Let's jump right in.
[00:20:13] Paul Scheer: We have not been able to break down some of the things that we've loved for a little bit of time, and I wanted to just check in with you.
[00:20:19] I didn't wanna put pressure on you 'cause it's fairly new, but have you been watching Widow's Bay? Katie Dippold's Widow's Bay.
[00:20:25] Jason Mantzoukas: I am heartbroken to say that I have not watched it yet.
[00:20:28] Paul Scheer: Okay.
[00:20:29] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm absolutely gutted that I can't jump in right now.
[00:20:34] Paul Scheer: Well, here's the thing. I imagine a handful of our listeners are also in the same boat as you, and I'm gonna say put it at the top of your list.
[00:20:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Ah.
[00:20:43] Paul Scheer: It is so funny. It's really beautifully done. It's directed so well. Hiro Murai-
[00:20:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:20:50] Paul Scheer: ... who you know from Atlanta and so many other great things, uh, really captures something that is so distinctly unique. Katie Dippold, friend of ours from UCB, she created this show. It's been in her head for a very long time.
[00:21:03] But here's the thing I will say And, uh, without any spoiler, 'cause I don't wanna give you any- I want you to enjoy it the way that I watched it. What she is able to do with these scenes, it feels like great long form improv scenes. Because the little tags and quirks of the people are... It makes me cackle so loudly because it's, it's the thing that someone would yell in a back line-
[00:21:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:21:28] Paul Scheer: Or walk across and say, and it's completely in the world, and it's just little details like that throughout are killing me. And the show as a whole is fantastic and scary, but it is those little details. I have not seen any show do that, just a meek little like, "Well, I'm over here."
[00:21:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh.
[00:21:50] Paul Scheer: "I did that." You know, it's like a little and just, like, calling out stuff. There's a moment where one of the characters makes a very big declaration, and then is immediately called out, uh, like, like-
[00:22:02] Jason Mantzoukas: Right.
[00:22:02] Paul Scheer: ... the way that, like, in a way that-
[00:22:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Great.
[00:22:04] Paul Scheer: ... you would do it on stage. I, I, I don't know, like, and I don't wanna give it any more-
[00:22:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, no I'm excited.
[00:22:08] Paul Scheer: And just say that to me, is like the special sauce of Katie because she's so attached to horror. And if you don't know who Katie is- She...
[00:22:16] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, what I was gonna say is, like, this is a horror show.
[00:22:20] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:22:20] Jason Mantzoukas: This is a horror show-
[00:22:22] Paul Scheer: Light horror.
[00:22:22] Jason Mantzoukas: ... that is-
[00:22:23] Paul Scheer: In a good way.
[00:22:23] Jason Mantzoukas: ... very funny.
[00:22:24] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:22:24] Jason Mantzoukas: You know? Um, and this is, if you don't know Katie Dippold, this is, like, her sweet spot, you know?
[00:22:30] Paul Scheer: Yeah, I mean, June absolutely loves it. My dad loves it. My dad found it unbeknownst to, uh, you know, any connection that I had to it, uh, or anything, and he-
[00:22:41] Jason Mantzoukas: I think the best way that I can illustrate that I often will say here is if somebody, if I'm trying to explain Katie Dippold to somebody, just Google Katie Dippold Babadook.
[00:22:50] Paul Scheer: This is exactly what I was gonna say. This is, this is the thing. She is mostly known, uh, she's a brilliant screenwriter. Uh, we perform with her in Dinosaur. Um, she wrote The Heat and Ghostbusters, uh, so many different films and, uh... But she is a meme online because she is dressed fully as the Babadook at a Halloween party and-
[00:23:16] Jason Mantzoukas: Where n- where nobody else is dressed up.
[00:23:18] Paul Scheer: No one. And, uh, it is this shot that really... I mean, it, it, you, you have seen it. You've definitely seen this meme, and that is Katie Dippold. 'Cause she's also not a person who is want for attention. It's not like she posted that.
[00:23:35] Jason Mantzoukas: No.
[00:23:35] Paul Scheer: Like, no. She's into Halloween, and we know that.
[00:23:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, she's obsessed with Halloween-
[00:23:40] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:23:41] Jason Mantzoukas: In the funniest way.
[00:23:42] Paul Scheer: It's, uh, yeah.
[00:23:43] Jason Mantzoukas: So, like, this show is so exciting to me because it is, like, truly Dip's been, uh, given the keys to just run rampant with a very cool horror show-
[00:23:56] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:23:56] Jason Mantzoukas: ... that is very funny. And that, I'm-
[00:23:58] Paul Scheer: She just kills it.
[00:23:59] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, I love her. I'm so excited.
[00:24:01] Paul Scheer: It'll be on the top of your list. It'll be on top-
[00:24:02] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:24:02] Paul Scheer: Of everybody else's list, but I, I- Oh ... I'm ex- I'm excited for more and more people to find out about it.
[00:24:08] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm stoked. It's on Apple. Yeah. Do it up. Get out there, watch it. It's, it's... I'm so excited that it's getting so well-received, and it's like, I feel like I've been hearing from everybody they're obsessed with it. I haven't been able to watch it because I have been traveling.
[00:24:21] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:24:22] Jason Mantzoukas: I was in Europe. I was doing some work, and then I was in London, and I got to see my Taskmaster castmates.
[00:24:29] Paul Scheer: I saw the reunion pictures online.
[00:24:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh.
[00:24:33] Paul Scheer: I follow enough of your castmates to, uh, to have seen it all together, and, it looked like a great time.
[00:24:38] Jason Mantzoukas: Such a blast. We had such a great time hanging out and catching up with all of them. Uh, I do wanna shout out, uh, Fatiha El-Ghorri has a BAFTA-nominated short film up called Donkey-
[00:24:50] Paul Scheer: Ooh.
[00:24:51] Jason Mantzoukas: ... that is on YouTube. You can watch it on YouTube here.
[00:24:53] Paul Scheer: Oh, great.
[00:24:53] Jason Mantzoukas: And it's hilarious.
[00:24:55] Paul Scheer: I'll have to watch that.
[00:24:56] Jason Mantzoukas: Um, she's so fantastic. And then season 21 of Taskmaster is up, is start- is midway through the season right now.
[00:25:03] Paul Scheer: Midway through.
[00:25:03] Jason Mantzoukas: Kumail Nanjiani is one of the guests, or is one of the competitors.
[00:25:06] Paul Scheer: It's a killer cast. I mean, this is a- It's a- Yeah ...
[00:25:07] Jason Mantzoukas: great cast. Um-
[00:25:09] Paul Scheer: It's, I would say, more famous than in recent note. Like, you know-
[00:25:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:25:13] Paul Scheer: Like, in the sense that you know a couple of-
[00:25:15] Jason Mantzoukas: Armando Iannucci's in there.
[00:25:16] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:25:16] Jason Mantzoukas: The creator of Veep and a number of other things. Um-
[00:25:19] Paul Scheer: Surprised that he did this. Like, and not... You know, just a wild, wild choice.
[00:25:23] Jason Mantzoukas: And he's having a blast.
[00:25:24] Paul Scheer: Oh my gosh.
[00:25:25] Jason Mantzoukas: He's having a blast. It's a, it's a great season. Um, they're all great seasons. Listen, we love the show.
[00:25:32] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:25:32] Jason Mantzoukas: But it's a particularly funny season that I think is absolutely worth everybody watching. In addition, I would recommend everybody, please, if you haven't watched it yet, season two of Last One Laughing, the UK Last One Laughing.
[00:25:44] Paul Scheer: I, I am obsessed. I am obsessed, obsessed, obsessed. This show is fantastic. Like-
[00:25:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Season one was incredible-
[00:25:53] Paul Scheer: Yes
[00:25:53] Jason Mantzoukas: ... so funny. Season two, the head-to-head pairing of David Mitchell and Sam Campbell is next-level insane and so funny.
[00:26:04] Paul Scheer: I have never gone to bat more, uh, to be like, "Can I host the American version-
[00:26:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes
[00:26:09] Paul Scheer: ... of this show?"
[00:26:10] Jason Mantzoukas: You must.
[00:26:11] Paul Scheer: I love it-
[00:26:12] Jason Mantzoukas: You must.
[00:26:12] Paul Scheer: ... so much.
[00:26:13] By the way, uh, this is kind of a tangential side note. I know that I've talked to you very, uh, openly and passionately about my, uh, about my love for Traitors.
[00:26:23] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:26:23] Paul Scheer: But maybe the thing that will get you on board is the new season of Traitors, which is going to be-
[00:26:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Celebrity Traitors, you, you mean?
[00:26:31] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:26:32] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes, I've heard about this.
[00:26:32] Paul Scheer: Michael Sheen- Richard E. Grant
[00:26:35] Jason Mantzoukas: James Projector.
[00:26:37] Paul Scheer: Yes, James, uh, yes, Ro-
[00:26:38] Jason Mantzoukas: James Acaster is, is in the cast.
[00:26:41] Paul Scheer: Uh, and I'm gonna mispronounce his name, but, uh, Romesh from, uh-
[00:26:44] Jason Mantzoukas: Romesh is in there, yeah
[00:26:45] Paul Scheer: ... yes, from Taskmaster.
[00:26:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Yep.
[00:26:46] Paul Scheer: Uh, fantastic. It, it is going to... I mean, it's James Blunt is in it. It, it, yes.
[00:26:51] Jason Mantzoukas: Can I ask you a question? Is this, it, it, this is, is this normal? Do they always do high-end celebrity Traitors or is this a new thing? So- I don't feel like I've ever heard this before, 'cause to me, whenever Traitors has been described, it's like Real Housewives and, um, you know, like, it's kind of like- Right, so- ... Bravo celebrities and so forth.
[00:27:12] Paul Scheer: There's a couple of things to go over. In a sense-
[00:27:14] Jason Mantzoukas: I mean, I know Ron Funches was on it, you know, um-
[00:27:16] Paul Scheer: No, no, no. But th- this is what has happened. Uh, when Traitors first started, there was, like, a handful of British celebrities in the original cast mixed with real people. Like, it was an interesting, like, diverse group.
[00:27:29] Jason Mantzoukas: I see.
[00:27:29] Paul Scheer: Right? It's kinda like the way when Mike White competes on Survivor. You're like, "Oh, that's Mike White-
[00:27:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, yeah
[00:27:34] Paul Scheer: ... but he's with, uh, a bunch of normies." But America was like, "No, no, no, no. We're never doing normies. We're only doing Bravo people." But BBC has always been in front of it. But the show's popularity has just grown and grown and grown.
[00:27:48] So I think that they are like, "Oh, shit. Like, we, we can actually really get high-end celebrities." And then-
[00:27:56] Jason Mantzoukas: Huh.
[00:27:56] Paul Scheer: ... following that, the next season, which I know a little bit about and we can talk off-air, the next American season is going to be matching that in some ways. This, this, y- I would say wait until celebrity-
[00:28:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:28:08] Paul Scheer: Season two, 'cause that, that, it's gonna be all the people that you like. It'll be a good- And it will feel, I think, like what we like in the Taskmaster world.
[00:28:16] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, yeah.
[00:28:16] Paul Scheer: It's gonna be more fun and more playful. But here's the funny thing I think, which is, like, Traitors has gotten so successful with the Bravo celebs that now they're doing a normie version of Traitors that's gonna air on regular television.
[00:28:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, wow.
[00:28:31] Paul Scheer: So Traitors is a streamer show, but now they're doing the normie version as a network show. And I gotta say I like the normie version of Traitors in the sense that no one's coming in with baggage.
[00:28:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, yeah.
[00:28:45] Paul Scheer: It's a lot more of like, "Oh, I don't know you."
[00:28:47] Jason Mantzoukas: These are, everybody's a discovery.
[00:28:48] Paul Scheer: Yes. You know?
[00:28:49] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:28:49] Paul Scheer: And that to me, it's like, 'cause there's a lot of shit that I don't like. I, I vocally I've s- talked about this, but I, that where when you come on to Celebrity Traitors, they're like, "Well, you're a housewife, so you're definitely manipulative."
[00:29:00] Jason Mantzoukas: Ah.
[00:29:00] Paul Scheer: I'm like, "Well, no, no, no. Let them play the, let them play the game."
[00:29:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:29:04] Paul Scheer: It's, it, like-
[00:29:05] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:29:05] Paul Scheer: ... it, you can't, it, because in a, in a game like Mafia, you're looking for any reason, and it's so much more fulfilling, I think, to, to really be like, "No, no, no. It's all here. It's all on the level."
[00:29:15] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, it's also, like, you're not getting people's, like, you're not getting e- like, people who are, like, trying to do their thing.
[00:29:22] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:29:22] Jason Mantzoukas: You, you, if it's normal people, you are really just getting to know these normal people, you know? And that's-
[00:29:27] Paul Scheer: And then my ultimate issue with the entire show is you can't pick if you're a traitor or not.
[00:29:32] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:29:32] Paul Scheer: You are picked by the, by Alan Cumming or, you know, by, uh, the host picks you. So even if you are the most manipulative person, it means nothing because you have no control over who you are. Yeah. It's not like I get to choose what side I'm on. Like, and, and that's part of the fun of the show is, like, when they bring on, uh, you know, Travis Kelce's mom, uh- Yeah ... and they make her a hidden traitor, you know, then people really attacked her. I guess sh-
[00:29:57] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, I didn't know she was on there. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's funny.
[00:30:00] Paul Scheer: So yeah, Tra- uh, Mama Kelce was on- ... and could not really keep a straight face, uh, in the, uh, deliberations, so she was booted relatively quickly.
[00:30:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, my God. Oh, that's great. I love it. Yeah.
[00:30:11] Paul Scheer: So anyway, I will say that I feel like if you wait for season two of Celebrity Traitors, I believe that that will be a great time for you, and, uh-
[00:30:18] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay. Perfect.
[00:30:19] Paul Scheer: ... you will, and you will also get who I think is fantastic, Claudia Winkleman, who is the BBC host, and she is just a, a wildly funny weirdo.
[00:30:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, great.
[00:30:27] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:30:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay.
[00:30:27] Paul Scheer: In a, in a great way.
[00:30:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Perfect. I'll watch that.
[00:30:29] Paul Scheer: All right. So you've been traveling, which means a lot of time on planes.
[00:30:33] Jason Mantzoukas: A lot of time on planes, a lot of time in hotel rooms, and a, but frankly, a lot of time not having access to, like, my shows or my stuff.
[00:30:42] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:30:42] Jason Mantzoukas: You know?
[00:30:42] Paul Scheer: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:30:42] Jason Mantzoukas: 'Cause it's not a, partially why I wasn't able to watch Katie Dippold's show is 'cause I couldn't get any Apple TV stuff. I couldn't get-
[00:30:49] Paul Scheer: You're not, you're not rocking some sort of VPN?
[00:30:51] Jason Mantzoukas: You know, I, I, I travel now with a Roku thing.
[00:30:56] Paul Scheer: Okay.
[00:30:56] Jason Mantzoukas: Um-
[00:30:57] Paul Scheer: Ooh, I like that.
[00:30:57] Jason Mantzoukas: ... that gets me some stuff, but then, but Apple, HBO, I don't-
[00:31:02] Paul Scheer: Yeah, you're done.
[00:31:02] Jason Mantzoukas: ... I don't know how to do a VPN on the Roku, I guess, is what I would have to do. I'm certain it can be done.
[00:31:08] Paul Scheer: I, I also like when I'm in different countries to kind of partake in what's going on there.
[00:31:12] Jason Mantzoukas: I, I watched a lot of just, I'm flipping around Italian television. I'm flip- you know, I'm just flipping around, seeing what's what. Um, which is-
[00:31:18] Paul Scheer: Let me, let me ask you- you're, uh, we won't talk about what you did. Yeah. But, uh, you're in Italy.
[00:31:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:31:24] Paul Scheer: How are you approaching dining in Italy knowing the egg allergy is- So- Yeah.
[00:31:30] Jason Mantzoukas: So I had a card printed up in Italian that explains my allergy-
[00:31:37] Paul Scheer: Got it.
[00:31:37] Jason Mantzoukas: ... in detail. Now, that being said, I used it only a few times. Almost everybody was very attentive and very, um, uh, very on top of allergies, which I was-
[00:31:51] Paul Scheer: Amazing.
[00:31:51] Jason Mantzoukas: ... very surprised by. Yeah. Um, and so, so e- even though it was very stressful and even though there was a lot of eggs in a lot of the meals, the, I was able to navigate pretty safely, and so knock on wood, had no bad, uh, experiences with this trip.
[00:32:07] Paul Scheer: That's amazing, uh, 'cause it's, it, it is to me, it's like there's so- egg in pasta, everything.
[00:32:11] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, big time.
[00:32:11] Paul Scheer: Like all these little.
[00:32:12] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:32:12] Paul Scheer: These things.
[00:32:13] Jason Mantzoukas: All the breads, all the pastas, all the, all the desserts, all the breakfasts, all of it.
[00:32:17] Paul Scheer: But this is why you look so good. You can come back from a little time spent in Italy and not-
[00:32:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, yes.
[00:32:21] Paul Scheer: Have taken any of that weight.
[00:32:23] Jason Mantzoukas: And I had pasta, I had pasta a couple of times. Hm. It worked out a couple of times, but mostly for me, like I'm in Italy having grilled fish and a caprese salad. I'm eating-
[00:32:32] Paul Scheer: Great.
[00:32:32] Jason Mantzoukas: ... very clean- Yeah ... as opposed to everybody else who's going bananas.
[00:32:35] Paul Scheer: I mean, it's, it's, uh, it's so good.
[00:32:37] Jason Mantzoukas: Um, I know we've talked about it.
[00:32:39] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:32:39] Jason Mantzoukas: But I cannot recommend enough The Fall and Rise of Reggie Dinkins.
[00:32:45] Paul Scheer: Oh my God.
[00:32:46] Jason Mantzoukas: It is pound for pound the most joke-dense, funniest show on TV, full stop. It's phenomenal.
[00:32:55] Paul Scheer: Well, I gotta tell you, there's a joke where it's, it, the, it's not a plot joke, it's just a joke joke.
[00:33:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:33:01] Paul Scheer: Um, and I'll s- I'll see if you remember it. It's like in the second to last episode, and they go to a deli. Reggie has like a sandwich at the deli, and they kinda have this moment with the delicatessen guy, and through the course of this conversation, the delicatessen guy is like, "Wow, I, I sell animal slices. Huh, slices of animal." And he just sa- Yeah ... like, like for cold cuts. And he has-
[00:33:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:33:24] Paul Scheer: ... this like existential crisis. I laughed-
[00:33:27] Jason Mantzoukas: It's so funny.
[00:33:28] Paul Scheer: ... so hard at this.
[00:33:29] Jason Mantzoukas: It's so funny.
[00:33:29] Paul Scheer: I've never thought of cold cuts as slices of animal.
[00:33:32] Jason Mantzoukas: As sliced up animals. Yeah.
[00:33:34] Paul Scheer: And then, and then I was, I, I wrote to our friend, uh, Meredith Scardino, who is the creator of Girls5eva, who, whose name was on the episode, and I was like, "That is one of the i- the hardest I've laughed watching an episode."
[00:33:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:33:47] Paul Scheer: And then she's like, "That's your buddy Phil- Oh, yeah ... Jackson's joke." And-
[00:33:50] Jason Mantzoukas: That's a Phil Jackson joke.
[00:33:52] Paul Scheer: ... and I was like oh my God.
[00:33:53] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:33:53] Paul Scheer: I watched it play out, and I was like, that's how Phil would play it. And I talked to Phil, and Phil was like, "I literally just improvised that in the room."
[00:33:59] Jason Mantzoukas: I love it.
[00:34:00] Paul Scheer: And I was like, and I w- it's s- 'cause the guy has this momentary existential crisis. It's so fucking funny.
[00:34:05] Jason Mantzoukas: The show is a blast. And kind of like what you were saying before, like- There is an improv feeling to it.
[00:34:13] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:34:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Like, there is, there are j- like what you were saying about Dippold's show, there are jokes and throwaway lines that feel as though they're improvised, or feel of the moment, and it's really satisfying, and, and it's so funny to watch. I, I, I just loved it.
[00:34:29] Paul Scheer: Do you know who I thought was phenomenal on that show? I mean, the, the cast is-
[00:34:32] Jason Mantzoukas: Megan Thee Stallion.
[00:34:33] Paul Scheer: Me- always. I mean, she-
[00:34:35] Jason Mantzoukas: Megan Thee Stallion was so funny in the show.
[00:34:38] Paul Scheer: Truly, everybody in the show just, like, crushes. Yeah. Like, Megan, like, her- ... bit with Radcliffe is so, so good.
[00:34:47] Jason Mantzoukas: So funny.
[00:34:48] Paul Scheer: Uh, but the one that I, uh, blown away by was Anna Camp.
[00:34:51] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:34:51] Paul Scheer: Anna Camp, who plays his-
[00:34:52] Jason Mantzoukas: Great episode.
[00:34:53] Paul Scheer: I was like, "Oh, wow." It's such a fun... 'Cause I think it's hard on a show like that to kind of come in and, like, up the stakes even more, and, like, play in a different thing, and, and they do that.
[00:35:05] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, also, it's really hard to come into a show that already has so many bananas characters-
[00:35:11] Paul Scheer: That's, yeah, that's, yeah.
[00:35:12] Jason Mantzoukas: And to be the focal point of that episode. So it's not like, oh, she's got a couple of scenes, she's gonna do her thing. No, that episode is really about her-
[00:35:22] Paul Scheer: Really great, yeah.
[00:35:23] Jason Mantzoukas: ... in a way that is, like, really hard and challenging, and I thought she was absolutely hilarious.
[00:35:29] Paul Scheer: She just killed me, just, like, literally, I was like, "Oh, man." And it's just funny because, like, I just feel like to me, I'm like, oh, I, I didn't even expect her to be able to come in and do that.
[00:35:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:35:40] Paul Scheer: You know? Uh, yeah, so yeah, but-
[00:35:41] Jason Mantzoukas: I loved it. Yeah. I loved it. Um, Dark Wins, season four-
[00:35:45] Paul Scheer: I know you're on this.
[00:35:45] Jason Mantzoukas: ... Is happening now. It is, I mean, r- I, I, I remain, uh, on record as saying I think Dark Wins is the most underrated show on television right now. It is... I, I don't understand a world in which this isn't the show everybody's talking about all the time. It is absolutely phenomenal.
[00:36:03] Paul Scheer: Well, now, I, I'm gonna, I'm gonna probably ask another question where you're gonna be like, "No, I've not had a chance to catch up on this." But I'm gonna ask it nonetheless.
[00:36:10] Have you watched The Comeback? The new season?
[00:36:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:36:13] Paul Scheer: Okay.
[00:36:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Although I've not caught up on it.
[00:36:14] Paul Scheer: Okay.
[00:36:14] Jason Mantzoukas: I watched the first h- uh, that's a good example of, I w- watched the first chunk, and then HBO was one of the shows, one of the things I couldn't get.
[00:36:22] Paul Scheer: Got it.
[00:36:22] Jason Mantzoukas: So I've got the last half of the season to watch.
[00:36:25] Paul Scheer: Uh, another great re- like, I love that we have adopted, or we have been able to adopt a certain British model for these shows where it's like, oh, we can come back whenever-
[00:36:36] Jason Mantzoukas: Bring it back.
[00:36:37] Paul Scheer: ... we want.
[00:36:37] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:36:37] Paul Scheer: Like, when Alan Partridge comes back it's always wonderful and great. Which, by the way, I think he just came back in something else, 'cause he just won a BAFTA at the recent BAFTA ceremonies with-
[00:36:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Oh, he did a sh- he did something last year. Yeah, yeah.
[00:36:48] Paul Scheer: Yes. So it's like, it, I'm always kinda... But I think The Comeback this season is really, really, really interesting. Uh-
[00:36:55] Jason Mantzoukas: I also re-watched the previous Comeback. Before this season-
[00:36:59] Paul Scheer: Oh, nice.
[00:36:59] Jason Mantzoukas: ... I re-watched the old ones, and they are Just so funny I mean-
[00:37:04] Paul Scheer: It is so good.
[00:37:05] Jason Mantzoukas: That is one of the most consistently hilarious series that's ever been.
[00:37:10] Paul Scheer: Uh, you know, so saying that, like, you know, this season is, I mean, if, in the very broadest way, Valerie Cherish is brought in to be the center of a show that is written by AI.
[00:37:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:37:21] Paul Scheer: And I had this conversation with June last night, 'cause she's like, "Well, the, you know, the show is bad, but people are watching." I'm like, June, though, if you look at season one and two of The Comeback, those sitcoms written by human writers-
[00:37:35] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:37:35] Paul Scheer: ... are equally bad. Like, there's no discernible quality difference between any of these shows.
[00:37:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, it's so funny.
[00:37:40] Paul Scheer: Which is, I think, is also, like, just meta commentary, too. Yeah. It's like they're not, they're all about the same level, but people tell you, "That s- show is great." Yeah. But I think that is also intentional. There, there is, uh, there's some great-
[00:37:52] Jason Mantzoukas: It's really, it's another show that has just an amount of jokes coming at you that are so satisfying and land so hard. Um, a- a- and, and I just think Kudrow is unreal. I mean, she's- I think she's unreal as that character ...
[00:38:08] Paul Scheer: Tru- truly fantastic. I mean, they definitely, I think, are saying goodbye to her-
[00:38:14] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:38:15] Paul Scheer: ... uh, this season. And, uh, and the ending It just wraps in so many great ways. And, and there's so many beautiful things. Like, there's a ... I don't wanna spoil any of it, but there are just these great full circle moments that, uh, like literally brought tears to my eyes- Yeah ... twi- like twice in one episode. I was like-
[00:38:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Great.
[00:38:31] Paul Scheer: ... wow. Really, really great.
[00:38:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Great. I love it. The-
[00:38:34] Paul Scheer: By the way, the show I believe that we were both talking about with, uh, with Steve Coogan is, uh How Are You, It's Alan. Yeah. And then in, and then in Is it parentheses Partridge.
[00:38:44] Jason Mantzoukas: I haven't seen any of it, but I love it.
[00:38:47] Paul Scheer: Uh, I, I love it. I already love it. I cannot wait. Ah.
[00:38:49] Jason Mantzoukas: Um, the, the Disney+ series, uh, the, the animated Darth Maul Shadow Lord, I think is what it's called-
[00:38:57] Paul Scheer: Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:38:58] Jason Mantzoukas: ... is fucking awesome.
[00:39:00] Paul Scheer: More of that. I agree.
[00:39:01] Jason Mantzoukas: ... g- give me more. Give me more. It's terrific. I loved every minute of it. I think it's, it's a fantastic... Maul, who would've thought Darth Maul, such a kind of problematic character in the prequels, would in the animated series, across the animated series, become one of the most interesting, most three-dimensional characters in all of Star Wars?
[00:39:22] Paul Scheer: Well, I mean, this-
[00:39:23] Jason Mantzoukas: It's incredible.
[00:39:23] Paul Scheer: ... This is the thing, you know, Darth Maul is such a visually iconic character who was so underserved by the prequels.
[00:39:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:39:34] Paul Scheer: It was like, it really was just like, oh wait, why? Wait, no, come on. And, uh, and no character really lives up to that level of like look besides him in those prequel films. And the fact that they are able to do this, I mean, The Clone Wars, everything was so much better in the show animated. It, it is a great world to be, these stories to be told, not just to be villains that are, uh, dealt with or, you know, mashed.
[00:39:58] Jason Mantzoukas: To really build them out and build him, like a character who, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm pretty sure I'm right, Darth Maul doesn't talk in the prequels.
[00:40:05] Paul Scheer: No.
[00:40:06] Jason Mantzoukas: And he talks so much in these animated series- Ugh ... and his growth is so fantastic. And they're shining a light on periods of Maul's life that we just haven't seen yet, and it's all, it's gangster stuff, it's smuggler stuff, it's all crime stories inside of Star Wars just as the Empire has taken over. It's fantastic.
[00:40:27] Paul Scheer: I, uh, I wanted to say that there's a thing I saw online, and I'm just repeating somebody else's observation, so I'm not taking it as my own. But they said one of the most badass things about Darth Maul is that in the first prequel series he does not know that Anakin is anything special and he is chasing him down on the motorcycle ready to kill him.
[00:40:52] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:40:52] Paul Scheer: It is one of the most ba- like, he's like, "Oh, I'll just kill this child." Yeah. Like, I don't even ... I, there's no, there, he knows very little and is ready to go and it's like-
[00:41:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, yeah.
[00:41:01] Paul Scheer: And that ar- that really is, like I never thought of it like that. It made me laugh so hard because it's like, oh yeah, it's, this is just a kid who's kind of good at pod racing. That's all he's doing.
[00:41:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. And he's like, "Gotta kill this kid."
[00:41:11] Paul Scheer: Gotta kill him. Got- Got it ... to kill him. Oh, man ...
[00:41:14] Jason Mantzoukas: I know I mentioned it, uh, uh, I think maybe last time we spoke, but I did wanna thank one of our listeners, uh, very kindly after I requested that people send me Film Club.
[00:41:25] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:41:25] Jason Mantzoukas: The Aimee Lou Wood show. Somebody sent it to me and I, I gotta say, it's one of the, one of the most wonderful watches I've had in a long time. It is so sweet and so heartfelt, and it's all about the movies, and it's all about how we feel about the movies, and how, ugh, how they interpret and allow us to exercise and exorcise our emotional interiority.
[00:41:50] And it is dynamite. It's so funny and so sweet-
[00:41:54] Paul Scheer: Oh, my God. I gotta watch that.
[00:41:55] Jason Mantzoukas: ... and so heartbreaking. And it's six episodes. It's, it's a little bit hard to find, but I really urge everybody to seek out Aimee Lou Wood's Film Club.
[00:42:04] Paul Scheer: But by the way, uh, you know, one of the great things about being in our Discord is access to certain things like this. As we talk about this, people continue to, uh, help us out, uh, whether it's direct messages- Yeah ... or even simply, uh, have access to things that we might not even have access to. Yeah. So the Discord is not just about this show, it is about the community around the show. Everybody is amazing in our own-
[00:42:25] Jason Mantzoukas: Now, before we disconnect the Discord-
[00:42:27] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:42:27] Jason Mantzoukas: ... um, here's what I will say. I- in the spirit of if you're willing to help me out, uh, please, I'm looking for The Gold Season Two. Hmm. Um, I'm, I know it's gonna air here at some point. Uh, The Gold Season One, Paul, I've talked about it on the show before, is one of the best, most wonderful, like, heist crime shows.
[00:42:48] Paul Scheer: Oh, I don't... Okay, yes.
[00:42:49] Jason Mantzoukas: It's a British show that's based on a real story, and I'll tell you the setup. The setup is the first scene is these guys go to rob a bank.
[00:42:58] Paul Scheer: Mm-hmm.
[00:42:58] Jason Mantzoukas: And as they're breaking into the vault, one of them is like, "Hey, what about that stuff over there?" And they look over and there is, and I'm not gonna remember the amount, but they think they're going in to rob, like, a couple of hundred thousand pounds worth of money.
[00:43:14] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:43:14] Jason Mantzoukas: But there instead is, like, 26 million pounds in gold.
[00:43:19] Paul Scheer: Right, which is about- That- Uh, which I guess in 2025 is 88 million.
[00:43:23] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:43:23] Paul Scheer: So this is a giant amount, yes.
[00:43:24] Jason Mantzoukas: So they instead steal that, but then have no understanding or capacity of what to do with it, and h- and so the m- the show is about all of the people that have to get involved, that they have to, like, now find and reach out to-
[00:43:40] Paul Scheer: I love this.
[00:43:41] Jason Mantzoukas: To figure out how to melt the gold or sell the gold or bury the gold or fence the gold, and they, it, it is, it's this sprawling epic that is so fantastic. Jack Lowden from Slow Horses is in it. Um, uh, Hugh Bonneville, like, a whole ton of people. It's cops and robbers, but it's also all these other people that are, that, that they have to keep bringing in, and all the ways that it's always just falling apart. So season two-
[00:44:07] Paul Scheer: Well, I will say- Yeah ... it's gonna be on PBS apparently soon.
[00:44:11] Jason Mantzoukas: That's what I've heard too, but they've been saying that now for so long-
[00:44:14] Paul Scheer: Okay, got it.
[00:44:15] Jason Mantzoukas: ... that I'm like, "Will somebody just send it to me?" Because, and it aired in the UK, uh, over a year ago, I think.
[00:44:20] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:44:21] Jason Mantzoukas: So I'm looking for The Gold Season Two, and I'm also looking for a show called Soviet Jeans. Um, if anybody knows about that show.
[00:44:28] Paul Scheer: All right, we have to wrap it up right now, but we will be, uh, back again to talk about all the things that we love. Jason, great to talk to you.
[00:44:34] Jason Mantzoukas: Can't wait.
[00:44:35] Paul Scheer: All right, that is a wrap talking with Jason, which means it is finally time to announce our next movie. Next week, we will be going from gun shooting to parachuting.
[00:44:43] That's right, we'll be watching the 1994 skydiving action film Drop Zone - oh, I love this movie - starring Wesley Snipes, Gary Busey, and Yancy Butler. IMDb describes it like this:
[00:44:54] "A tough cop teams up with a professional skydiver to capture a renegade computer hacker on the run from the law."
[00:45:01] Rotten Tomatoes rates Drop Zone 41% rotten on the Tomatometer, and Letterbox user Justin LaLiberte says,
[00:45:08] "Where some see a poor man's Point Break, I see a rich man's Terminal Velocity,"
[00:45:12] which released a mere three months prior.
[00:45:15] Let's take a listen to the trailer.
[00:45:16] Trailer Audio: $2 million a month for the operations and names of every undercover agent in the world.
[00:45:21] In a world of high-tech espionage...
[00:45:24] these people are killers ...
[00:45:25] All that stands between lawlessness and justice...
[00:45:28] you leave the cop stuff to me ...
[00:45:40] is one man.
[00:45:40] Stage one is complete, right on schedule.
[00:45:42] Wesley Snipes.
[00:45:42] Schedule's gonna change.
[00:45:43] Drop Zone, Rated R.
[00:45:43] Starts Friday, December 9th at theaters everywhere.
[00:45:45] Paul Scheer: If you wanna watch Drop Zone, you can stream it for free on Hoopla or rent it at all the usual places that you rent movies. That is it for Last Looks.
[00:45:52] If you listen to us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, please rate and review us, and make sure you are following us and have automatic downloads turned on. It helps the show, and we appreciate it. You can visit us on social media @HDTGM, and a big thank you to our producers Scott Sonne, Molly Reynolds, and our engineer, Casey Holford, as well as our social media manager, Zoe Applebaum.
[00:46:08] And of course, we will forever be thankful to the one and only Avaryl Halley. We will see you next week for Drop Zone.