Jason and Paul chat about TV, movies, and ask who the Jackass cast members would be if they were in the Fellowship of the Ring. But first, Paul responds to all your corrections & omissions on The Forbidden Dance. And stay tuned to the end of the episode to find out next week's new movie! PAUL & JASON'S WATCH LIST: Nirvanna the Band the Show the Movie Young Sherlock Sherlock & Daughter The Fall and Rise of Reggie Dinkins
Jason and Paul chat about TV, movies, and ask who the Jackass cast members would be if they were in the Fellowship of the Ring. But first, Paul responds to all your corrections & omissions on The Forbidden Dance. And stay tuned to the end of the episode to find out next week's new movie!
PAUL & JASON'S WATCH LIST:
Nirvanna the Band the Show the Movie
The Fall and Rise of Reggie Dinkins
[00:00:00] Paul Scheer: Taxi dancing. A porn PSA. And Paul goes on Jackass? All this and more on a brand new, How Did This Get Made Last Looks, hit the theme.
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[00:00:32] Paul Scheer: Hello, all you Kid Creole and The Coconut Fans. It's me, your host, Paul Scheer, AKA Daddy Coconut and welcome to How Did This Get Made Last Looks where you, the listener, get to voice your issues on The Forbidden Dance, a movie The Discord user, Fun Facts 47 thinks should have had the tagline,
[00:00:49] The Forbidden Dance, you are tearing me apart, Nisa!"
[00:00:54] And that, of course, is a mediocre Tommy Wisseau impression, uh, but a great alt movie tagline by Fun Facts 47. Uh, here's a thought, do I need to have a great Tommy Wisseau impression? I mean, aren't there enough out there? It's like, if you're doing impressions right now, I don't think you need to work on a Schwarzenegger or Christopher Walken.
[00:01:13] Like those have been covered. So, you know, honestly, by me not doing a great one, I'm doing you a service. Uh, anyway. Shout out to Quinn for that opening theme song. I love that. Remember, if you have an alt movie tagline or title, submit it to us on our discord at Discord.gg/HDTGM, and if you have a Last Looks theme song, go to HDTGM.com and click on submit a song.
[00:01:33] That's right. It's easy. Remember, keep 'em short. 15 to 20 seconds is best. We're gonna be hearing all about your issues. Your corrections, your omissions about The Forbidden Dance in just a bit. Then Jason's gonna pop by. We're gonna talk about Nirvana, The Band, The Show, The Movie. Also my visit to the brand new Jackass movie set and we will reveal next week's film.
[00:01:55] Oh, it's a big one. Um, now lemme tell you. We love The Forbidden Dance. We barely saw any problems with it, but you, you had a lot of problems with it, and now here's your chance to set us straight. Fact check us, if you will. It is now time for Corrections and Omissions.
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[00:02:13] Paul Scheer: Thank you Brian B. Love that song. Alright, first one up from the Discord is John Steele.
[00:02:19] "Hey Paul. Two things."
[00:02:20] Hey John.
[00:02:21] "Uh, number one, I was surprised not to hear Jason's take on Nisa running through a men's bathroom barefoot while they made their escape from the villain."
[00:02:29] You know what? Uh, honestly, John, I think that there's just too much in this movie to discuss that, uh, that was kinda left on the, uh, on the, on the wayside. You know, here's what I'm gonna say. Yeah, gross. Uh, but also not as gross as those dirty feet in Birdemic. I mean, those live in my mind forever. Uh, John Steele also brings up that the actor that we were calling Rucker Hower's brother is Richard Lynch. John Steele reveals that apparently, uh. He set himself on fire while on LSD in the seventies.
[00:03:03] Our producer Scott chimes in and says, yeah, that is true. He became a, a very popular nemesis and film and TV because of these scars that happened in a 1967 incident in New York City's Central Park where he did light himself on fire. 70% of his body is burned, but wow. Way to go. This guy came back. It was a very, uh, hardworking, great actor.
[00:03:27] So there you go. Can't beat that. Um, and kids don't do drugs.
[00:03:32] Mitch Capper writes, uh,
[00:03:34] "One very funny thing that wasn't mentioned."
[00:03:36] Wow. Another thing that we didn't mention.
[00:03:38] "In the episode is how Rutger Hower's brother eventually reveals his real passion project is to open an evil nightclub. The one dastardly plan that happens to line up perfectly with having captured Nisa."
[00:03:52] So are you saying that this movie actually makes sense? That his evil plan could only work by capturing an amazing dancer? Well, now. This movie works on a whole nother level for me. Uh, you may have made the movie make sense. Uh, Sean McBee writes,
[00:04:07] "You all talked a lot about how Nisa and Jason never seemed to improve their dancing, but no one mentioned that the dance seemed to never be the same twice. I mean, every single time they danced the Loba, it appeared to be a completely different dance."
[00:04:21] You know, Sean, you're right about that. I didn't realize that. In my mind, I was like, oh, they're just doing different parts of the dance. But of course. I don't think that they knew the dance. Um, this is, I love this movie. I really, really do.
[00:04:34] Um, let's go to the phones. First up, we have Elle with some very exciting news.
[00:04:41] Listener: Hi Paul. I am calling with a correction. You all spoke pretty highly, about Dirty Dancing during, uh, last week's episode, The Forbidden Dance and, um, the Switchblade lady, Nikki, uh, is her name I believe was actually in Dirty Dancing. I recognized her. She is like the older woman who is married that, uh, Patrick Swayze is sleeping with before he needs baby. So, um, I verified this, this is one of the only things that she's been in is these two movies that I've seen. Oh, actually she's been in a few others. Poseiden and Bulletin Keith. Um, but yeah, wanted to provide some more connective tissue between these two iconic dance movies. Thanks so much. Love the show.
[00:05:32] Paul Scheer: I love it. Thank you so much. You know what? He should have stayed with her. I think he should have stayed with her. He would be more happy with her. And by he, I mean, Patrick Swayze. Uh, I don't know if you've seen our shirt for this, but, uh, Jason needs a Swayze is a pretty great new design that we have in our Teepublic store.
[00:05:48] You can just go and get that by going HDTGM.com and clicking on merch. I do love that. I'm not using that just to sell a shirt. I don't care if you buy the shirt. I think it's a good shirt, but I just want to kind of keep all the connective tissue together. Uh, next up a call from someone.
[00:06:09] Listener: I just finished the Forbidden Dance. And Paul, one of your comments, uh, reminded me of an ad that I saw back in 2019. Your comment was about why PSAs aren't spicier and hotter these days, and maybe we should bring that back. So back when I worked in marketing, you know, I would keep up with trends and industry news, and I came across this ad produced by a Spanish agency called Officer and Gentleman, and they partnered with adult film creators to have sex on a beach while it was cleaned up by the organization's Ocean Polymers. And for every view the video receives, they would make a donation to this organization. Well, it received five and a half million views, and Ocean Polymers got a ton of money, uh, because of this, uh, not so traditional PSA. I love the show. Love the work that y'all are doing. Uh, your content is a balm in these troubling times.
[00:07:20] Um, please keep it up and, uh, excited for the next episode. Bye.
[00:07:27] Paul Scheer: Whoa, wait, what? That is the most insane story I have to go find this. I, I also $1 per view, so, we're, uh, I don't understand even how. Okay. Oh, wait. So you'd, oh, this is great. I love this idea. More spicy PSAs. You should get this done caller. And by the way, thank you so much for what you said.
[00:07:49] We love doing this show. And, uh, it means a lot that, uh. It, it's a sad for us too. Um, I just think, yes, why not do it? As a matter of fact, Scott is chiming in. There's a whole New York post, uh, article about this PsA. Uh, the title is, can the Dirtiest Porn Ever Help Clean Up our Filthy Beaches and. It. Yeah, it's a flick.
[00:08:13] I guess I didn't understand it when you were describing it, but, uh, PornHub, every time you watched it, they would give a donation to Ocean Polymers, a nonprofit organization working on sending a ship to sea to pick up and recycle plastic from the world's waters, and spread awareness about, uh, this environmental issue, uh, the, the, while the flix cites as the dirtiest porn ever.
[00:08:35] Uh, because they want it to kind of appeal to a lot of fetishes. Uh, basically you never get to see anything in the act that's obscured by garbage, uh, until a cleanup crew is there, uh, in PornHub Cares logos. So it is, it's a porn that's safe for your own family, and I'm just looking at some stills from it.
[00:08:53] And you know what? This is genius. This is a genius thing. Alright, back to the Discord, My Fake Iron Lung writes,
[00:08:59] "I am surprised that Jason, June and John did not mention what Nisa was doing at the Brothel. It's something called Taxi dancing. It's basically an old timey thing from the early 20th century where a dime of dance girls would dance with businessmen for companionship. The movie sort of merged that older style with a more modern brothel, which was not necessarily the case with taxi dancing. Obviously, switchblade lady and her establishment is supposed to be sleazy and in seedy Hollywood. So the conflict would be heightened if it was more akin to, uh, sex work."
[00:09:29] Well, I think we did talk about that. She was a like just a dollar a dance girl. I mean, and we understand 10 cents a dance is where it was. Uh, I feel like this was like taxi dancing with, uh, with more, right? It starts with taxi dancing and then it heightens and she wouldn't heighten, so she just did the taxi dancing. But anyway, it was weird.
[00:09:47] Uh, and I don't think that this was happening anytime around, uh, the time of this film. Like you said, it was from the early 20th century, uh.
[00:09:56] Ginger writes,
[00:09:56] "Whenever Nisa spoke to her tribe or the witch doctor, she was speaking Spanish. Shouldn't she have been speaking Portuguese as that's Brazil's official language?"
[00:10:06] You know what, we actually did talk about it. It just wasn't one of the most interesting facts. We just kind of cut it from the episode.
[00:10:12] Um. Adjective Animal writes,
[00:10:14] "I can't believe they didn't cover the song, Lambada, was remade into the 2011 Jennifer Lopez plus Pit Bull hit On The Floor every time that song played in the movie, which was many. I kept on expecting to see Mr. Worldwide to chime in. Apparently on the floor was so popular that Loba reentered the billboard charts in 2011. After 22 years hitting number three on the billboard digital chart."
[00:10:40] Whoa, I did not know that. And you know what I mean, Mr. Worldwide should be in a cameo in every movie.
[00:10:48] I mean, if there is dancing in the movie, he should be there just to cheer him on. Uh, Adjective Animal love this. I cannot believe that we did not know that Lambada reentered the charts after 22 years. Blew me away. Wow, wow, wow. So many great corrections and omissions this week, but there can only be one that is the best.
[00:11:07] And, you know, it's gonna be hard for me to figure it out, but I, I think. The one that is our winner is our anonymous caller who led us to the best, most spiciest PSA of all time. That's right. Anonymous, you get this week's prize. And you know what, uh, for having the best correction, we have a very special prize for you.
[00:11:29] Courtesy of a surprise guest. (Roaring Noise) Nope, that wasn't a lion. That was the roar of Nisa's bodyguard and magical shaman. Uh, remember him? That's right, anonymous. Joa has agreed to provide you with one week of free bodyguard and healing services the next time you travel to Brazil. So to climb your prize, just go to Brazil and Joa will find you.
[00:11:53] Um, however, I do wanna clarify the had to get made is not paying for your trip to Brazil. And if you choose to use Joa's Healing Services, you must consent. To his pet snake biting your wound. Not a big deal. I think it's worth it because these bodyguard and healing services are topnotch. So anonymous. Uh, I know we don't have your official name, but I think you should take us up on this.
[00:12:12] Thank you, Joa, for supplying such an amazing prize, and for all of you who did not win this completely real prize, you can try your luck next episode by submitting your corrections and omissions on our discord, or by calling us at 6 1 9. P-A-U-L-A-S-K.
[00:12:26] Okay. Coming up after this quick break, Jason will stop by to chat about movies and TV that we are loving plus so much more stick around.
[00:12:36] Welcome back. I'm sure you've noticed that every Tuesday we re-release old How Did This Get Made episodes back into our feed. We used to call these matinees, but now we're calling 'em classics. This week's classic episode is on the erotic thriller, Jade. So keep on checking out all of our replays of classic episodes every Tuesday.
[00:12:52] And now without any further ado, it's time to Welcome to Last Looks for a little Just Chat. My friend Jason. Anton Wellen, play us in.
[00:13:00] Music: [Just Chat Song]
[00:13:01] Paul Scheer: Jason, how are you?
[00:13:02] Jason Mantzoukas: Paul. Boy. Oh boy. Thrilled to see you. How are you?
[00:13:06] Paul Scheer: I am thrilled to see you as well. I feel there's been so much stuff going on. I haven't seen you in a little bit of time.
[00:13:12] Jason Mantzoukas: It's been too long.
[00:13:14] Paul Scheer: And it's been too long. And we we're in the middle of spring break and I know you go hard, you go down to Florida.
[00:13:18] Jason Mantzoukas: You know, I go down to Florida. I've got, uh, I rent a house with a guitar shaped pool.
[00:13:23] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah. It's so fun.
[00:13:24] Jason Mantzoukas: You know, you know, you, you enter the neck and you, you, you come out the fretboard, you know, uh, it's really, it's a cool spot.
[00:13:31] Paul Scheer: Did I ever tell you this story? I might have and, uh, forgive me if I'm retelling it, but when I was seeing Club Paradise for the first time, which is like a, a Robin Williams movie from the eighties.
[00:13:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, okay.
[00:13:40] Paul Scheer: It's like Robin Williams and Peter O'Toole, and I think the premise of it is that Robin Williams like takes over a club, med style resort, like full party adult party thing. And, um. At one point, Peter O'Toole iss, like, you're running this place into the ground. And, and he goes, I'm finding diaphragms in the pool.
[00:14:01] And I didn't know what that was. And, uh, and I was trying to find out for my dad. I was like, dad, what? It's like, um, what's a diaphragm? He's like, oh, that's how you control your breathing. I'm like, right, so could you lose that? And the pool, and it was like.
[00:14:14] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh.
[00:14:15] Paul Scheer: I didn't.
[00:14:15] Jason Mantzoukas: What a strange thing for your dad to have to put together.
[00:14:18] Paul Scheer: Oh. And then he was like, oh no, that's another, that's another kind of, no, that's, that's a different kind of diaphragm.
[00:14:23] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my God.
[00:14:24] Paul Scheer: But you have a lot of, I guess what I was saying was you have a lot of diaphragms in your pool.
[00:14:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Well see, I have one of those, you know, um, when, uh, Scrooge McDuck dives into the.
[00:14:34] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:14:34] Jason Mantzoukas: Swimming pool full of, uh, gold coins.
[00:14:36] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:14:37] Jason Mantzoukas: Uh, that's what my pool is like, except it's just diaphragms. I actually have no water in it. It's just diaphragms.
[00:14:44] Paul Scheer: Well, there is water in it. 'cause there's, the diaphragms do absorb something and so they.
[00:14:48] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes, there is a little bit of water. Yeah. But really it is mostly diaphragms.
[00:14:52] Paul Scheer: Um. I'm surprised that in this year of our Lord 2026, oh, uh, we have not ever seen anyone attempt a Scrooge McDuck dive into a pool full of coins.
[00:15:04] Jason Mantzoukas: How has that not been a Mr. Beast thing?
[00:15:06] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:15:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Or, or just some or jackass.
[00:15:09] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:15:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Six or whatever thing you know. How have they not tried a, although, I mean, I think the answer is obvious. Metal is solid. It doesn't move like liquid. And if you tried to dive into a, a pool full of metal coins, you would die.
[00:15:22] Paul Scheer: But at the same time, we have to see if that's actually true.
[00:15:26] Jason Mantzoukas: I agree. And maybe the thing is, maybe it's a person couldn't do it, but a duck could.
[00:15:32] Paul Scheer: Ooh. A duck with a monocle.
[00:15:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Maybe that's it.
[00:15:34] Paul Scheer: Yeah. I think maybe the problem has been getting the monocle on a duck, uh.
[00:15:37] Jason Mantzoukas: And the robe.
[00:15:40] Paul Scheer: It's really a, it's really a tailoring issue. Um, I can speak about this without using too many specifics, but I got to swing by the set of Jackass Five.
[00:15:52] Jason Mantzoukas: So good.
[00:15:53] Paul Scheer: And, uh, wow.
[00:15:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[00:15:55] Paul Scheer: Can't wait. Can't wait. And, and I think the thing that was, that kind of blew my mind about it.
[00:16:00] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[00:16:01] Paul Scheer: Was when you're there, they're, they're shooting them at the pace in which you watch them, right?
[00:16:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh.
[00:16:07] Paul Scheer: Like I would say that I watched them do a bit. And probably 15, 20 minutes. And then it was over and it was like, okay, now we're moving to the next thing.
[00:16:15] Jason Mantzoukas: That's, they don't do it again. They don't get pick up shots. They don't, you know.
[00:16:19] Paul Scheer: No, the most that I saw them like tweak was just the, we are here doing this.
[00:16:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:16:26] Paul Scheer: Like just, just getting the.
[00:16:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Intro thing.
[00:16:28] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Just a succinct set up for it. But, uh, yeah, and the thing that blew my mind in visiting that set was. I got there at lunch and like, you know, when you're on a, when you're on a film, you know, you break for, everyone breaks for lunch and I didn't realize that like Jackass breaks for lunch and then I was like.
[00:16:47] Jason Mantzoukas: Sure.
[00:16:48] Paul Scheer: Why would you ever want to eat?
[00:16:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:16:50] Paul Scheer: And then do any of these things like it, it doesn't feel like.
[00:16:54] Jason Mantzoukas: It's just imagining them lining up at catering to get like a chicken breast and some rice and all the traditional like onset meals. And then going back into having themselves like punched repeatedly in the stomach by like a robot.
[00:17:08] Paul Scheer: That's all I could possibly think about. I was like, why are Preston, Weeman, why are you guys eating? Don't eat, just keep it like a liquid diet or something.
[00:17:18] Jason Mantzoukas: Because a lot of the guys, the original guys are older now.
[00:17:22] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:17:22] Jason Mantzoukas: So is there a younger contingent of?
[00:17:25] Paul Scheer: Well. Yes. From Jackass four, the sa the, the same.
[00:17:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, that's right.
[00:17:29] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:17:29] Jason Mantzoukas: There was some people Yes, that's right.
[00:17:31] Paul Scheer: You got Poopies.
[00:17:32] Jason Mantzoukas: Poopies.
[00:17:32] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Poopies. Who, now I, I, I may have told you that we've been very deep into the Jackass in my family. Yeah. Um, I did not realize this, but Poopies has got his hand eaten off by a shark during Shark week.
[00:17:45] Jason Mantzoukas: What?
[00:17:45] Paul Scheer: The first ever injury on Shark Week happened promoting Jackass four.
[00:17:49] Jason Mantzoukas: What? And, and his hand was bitten off, are you saying?
[00:17:53] Paul Scheer: Well, it, it was severed at three tendons.
[00:17:56] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my god.
[00:17:57] Paul Scheer: And uh, and they had to like, get him out of where they were shooting. Get him back to the States. They brought him to a guy who. Uh, was able to get it reattached. It is reattached, it's gnarly. Um, and he says it's painful.
[00:18:11] Jason Mantzoukas: Whoa.
[00:18:11] Paul Scheer: But I, and there's footage of it, you can watch the footage of it. And so Poopies, uh, like his, like, um.
[00:18:19] Jason Mantzoukas: For Shark Week?
[00:18:20] Paul Scheer: For Shark Week, not even for the movie, like they gave him the footage to put on his YouTube. Like that was the culpa, like Yeah. The Shark Week people were, well, you can actually have the footage.
[00:18:28] It's brutal. And there, and then Steve O talks about it as well, and he was like, we all knew this was not a smart thing. He's like, because in our time with dealing with sharks and everything like that, he's like, sharks really don't fuck with you. And you know, but these sharks were so hungry. He's like, I saw a leaf land, like in the water and they all went nuts for the leaf. So then you drop Poopies in there.
[00:18:53] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:18:53] Paul Scheer: Uh, doing a literal uh, jump the shark like Fonzie from Happy Days moment falls off and then, and when you watch them race towards him, it is frightening.
[00:19:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, that's awful.
[00:19:05] Paul Scheer: And there's no.
[00:19:05] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my God.
[00:19:06] Paul Scheer: And there's no insurance. I was actually thinking that that's like the best, not the best gig, but like for Shark Week, it's like, oh, he didn't get paid. Like he didn't get paid extra for losing his hand. 'cause I'm sure he signed everything away.
[00:19:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, I'm, oh, for sure. Oh, that's so upsetting.
[00:19:21] Paul Scheer: Yeah, it's really gnarly. Like, and I, I just was like, and again, 'cause my kids have gone so deep into it, we've really found pockets that it didn't even know exist.
[00:19:32] Jason Mantzoukas: Have they found or gotten to the, all of the TV shows? Because.
[00:19:37] Paul Scheer: Yes. That's how it started.
[00:19:38] Jason Mantzoukas: I feel like. Oh, oh, it is? Okay.
[00:19:40] Paul Scheer: Because I was like, I, I knew the movies would be great, but I was like, let's start on the TV show because.
[00:19:44] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:19:44] Paul Scheer: It's harder to go backwards than.
[00:19:46] Jason Mantzoukas: It really is.
[00:19:47] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:19:47] Jason Mantzoukas: It's a good ramp up.
[00:19:49] Paul Scheer: And so, you know, so that was the, the TV shows, which apparently, uh, according to Jeff Tremain and, and Johnny, uh, they are in the middle of redoing because.
[00:19:59] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, wow.
[00:20:00] Paul Scheer: Uh, it was an interesting thing and, and just as somebody who worked at Viacom, I can identify with this, which is at one point when they were like, oh yeah, we need you to QC these, uh, you lose the rights to certain music. Now, Human Giant was a show that we knew about digital and DVD, so we really picked our music and hired musicians and we owned a lot of our music. Uh, but back in the day, Jackass and Real World, they would just play the top 40. They would play any song they wanted.
[00:20:30] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:20:31] Paul Scheer: And then it's like things like The State had that too, and you couldn't, you can't release it because you don't have the rights to it. But back then.
[00:20:37] Jason Mantzoukas: It's why shows like Moonlighting or 30 Something or My So-called Life spent so long not being able to stream is be, was because they had huge music rights problems. Um, and so yeah.
[00:20:50] Paul Scheer: It's really wild. Yeah. So it's like, so I guess what happened was at one point they weren't really QCing it as closely as they should have. So they're, they have some issues with some of the music choices that are in there. And like, I mean, I will say in watching it didn't really like, you know, but I do think that they're actually very careful and really selective about the music that they pick. So I, I also feel like it's just one of those things, it's like, well, it wasn't picked by us, you know, and it's, it's not gonna be as good.
[00:21:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Interesting. Oh, well I would, I mean, a box set of all of the Jackass stuff would be so fucking funny.
[00:21:24] Paul Scheer: Oh God.
[00:21:25] Jason Mantzoukas: Um, that would be an in incre. I would love that. And I also love that they always, one of the things I always appreciated was that they would put out a new movie and then the next year they would put out like, 45 minutes worth of like an extended cut of that movie with 45 extra minutes of stuff.
[00:21:43] Paul Scheer: Right. And it was very rarely because we've watched all of those, uh, the two point fives or whatever.
[00:21:48] Jason Mantzoukas: Yep.
[00:21:48] Paul Scheer: You know, um, it's very rarely the same bits, different openings, fully different bits.
[00:21:53] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:21:53] Paul Scheer: Like, it's not even extensions. It's, it's, it really, like I didn't understand that. I, I never really watched this 'cause like I already saw it, like, I guess what gonna see a couple more ball hits? I was like, oh no, no. It's a fully different film.
[00:22:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. It's genuinely stuff that is like, oh, maybe they didn't get enough of this, or it's, but it's still very satisfying. Very good.
[00:22:12] Paul Scheer: I, yeah, I really, I really enjoyed it.
[00:22:15] Jason Mantzoukas: It's like watching the Lord of the Rings extended cuts.
[00:22:17] Paul Scheer: That's what a lot of people say.
[00:22:18] Jason Mantzoukas: Now, if I was to, if I was to revisit a Jackass movie like a Lord of the Rings movie. Yeah, I would only watch the extended cuts.
[00:22:26] Paul Scheer: Well, you see, that's why you're a purist. I mean, that is the way that they're supposed to be watching.
[00:22:30] Jason Mantzoukas: You know, uh, uh, uh, Johnny is my Frodo, and, uh, Steve-O is my Pip. And, uh. Pontius is my Merry and, uh.
[00:22:40] Paul Scheer: Oh, please somebody draw that. I would love to see that.
[00:22:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Somebody do all of the, yes, all of the, uh, map the map the fellowship onto the Jackass crew.
[00:22:50] Paul Scheer: And by the way, the island that they're on, it should definitely look like a dick. And balls like a, an old, like an old map writing. Uh, I would love to see that. Oh my gosh. Um.
[00:22:59] Jason Mantzoukas: It's called Middle Girth.
[00:23:02] Paul Scheer: Ah. Now, Jason, I know it's taken the world by storm and I'm slow to catch up on this stuff, and I feel like you might have been ahead of the game and told me about it, but Nirvana, The Band, The Movie.
[00:23:15] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay.
[00:23:16] Paul Scheer: Is amazing. And I've gone back.
[00:23:17] Jason Mantzoukas: So I did not tell you about it.
[00:23:19] Paul Scheer: Okay.
[00:23:19] Jason Mantzoukas: I suspect maybe Seth or Owen did, because they are heavy into it.
[00:23:24] Paul Scheer: Okay.
[00:23:25] Jason Mantzoukas: So I haven't seen it, but I've talked to them about it. Now, are you aware of the fact that it, like The Trip is based on a TV series?
[00:23:33] Paul Scheer: Based on a web series that brought the TV series forward. Okay, so I've watched it all. So I watched the movie. It was great. Uh.
[00:23:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:23:42] Paul Scheer: And I was so blown away by it. Then I went back, found the web series.
[00:23:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay. Okay.
[00:23:46] Paul Scheer: Watched all 10 episodes of that, and now I am working my way slowly through the TV series just because I'm enjoying it so much.
[00:23:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, that's great.
[00:23:55] Paul Scheer: Uh, I don't wanna, I don't want to wreck it, but by the way.
[00:23:57] Jason Mantzoukas: But you don't feel like, oh, I wish I'd watched the TV series first, or, I wish I'd gotten in a done it in a different order. Okay.
[00:24:04] Paul Scheer: I, I think it's the filling on both ways that you watch it. They do a great job. I mean. The premise is divinely simple.
[00:24:14] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:24:14] Paul Scheer: It's just like two guys want to play at this club. That's it. And that is from episode one of the web series to the film, the, the same quest. It is like the Roadrunner and Coyote.
[00:24:28] It's like Coyote wants to get the roadrunner and any which way he gets there, it's like, well, we'll start back at, we'll start back at one.
[00:24:34] Jason Mantzoukas: Right.
[00:24:34] Paul Scheer: It just.
[00:24:35] Jason Mantzoukas: Great.
[00:24:35] Paul Scheer: You know, so that's really what makes the show so fulfilling. And I, and I think that, uh, the guys are great and, and I'm realizing. This is just, I'm not without any spoilers or anything because you shouldn't know anything about the movie.
[00:24:50] I didn't know a thing about it besides, it was very funny. The thing that I realized was I believe the way they are getting away with stuff because they're getting away with a lot of stuff. A lot of stuff. Um, it is to me, on a, it's not a prank film, it has elements of a prank film.
[00:25:11] Jason Mantzoukas: Mm-hmm.
[00:25:11] Paul Scheer: Um, but what I think they're doing is they're treating like a documentary because they both play themselves.
[00:25:18] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, interesting.
[00:25:19] Paul Scheer: Funny. And they are both. And I think what they are able to legally say is.
[00:25:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:25:24] Paul Scheer: Yes, this is a documentary about us. We would like to play this place.
[00:25:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Yep.
[00:25:27] Paul Scheer: Now whether or not they are.
[00:25:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Smart.
[00:25:29] Paul Scheer: And, and one of the guys. Is a, uh, musician. So it does check out.
[00:25:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:25:34] Paul Scheer: Like it's never outta that.
[00:25:36] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, that's so smart.
[00:25:36] Paul Scheer: So they can get the rights to things. I mean, I'm talking about like music cues, video clips.
[00:25:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:25:42] Paul Scheer: It all falls in fair usage because, because it's it's a doc.
[00:25:46] Jason Mantzoukas: They're making a documentary Yeah. Ooh.
[00:25:48] Paul Scheer: And I, and, and it's ingenious and once you start to see certain things, it's not a cheat at all, but it's really, you go, oh. 'Cause they dress the same pretty much all the time too. Yeah. Very much like a cartoon. So it's like, oh, they got that. Like they're mixing and matching, like to get the storylines all connected, but it feels like it's very run and gun in the sense that, uh, there is actually, I can talk about this, but there is a very big story that happened in Canada and they were across town shooting something else, and they're like, oh my gosh.
[00:26:20] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[00:26:20] Paul Scheer: Why don't we use that as a backdrop for a bigger part of our story? They ran over there and when you look at the news footage from that day, you can see them in the background doing their thing.
[00:26:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, this is cool.
[00:26:34] Paul Scheer: So it's awesome. Like.
[00:26:35] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, I'm excited.
[00:26:35] Paul Scheer: Yeah, so it's, it's really like from a production standpoint, I literally left the theater going like. It's the funniest thing, but also I have more questions than Mission Impossible. Like how did they?
[00:26:46] Jason Mantzoukas: How they just, yeah. Oh. 'cause it also seems like it would be so simple to understand.
[00:26:51] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:26:51] Jason Mantzoukas: But that is great. That makes me very curious.
[00:26:53] Paul Scheer: Because you're just like, because you get like, oh, Borat and Bruno, they're like, oh, he's going to a thing. He's, yeah, but they're doing stuff that I'm like, what? How, what is, like, how I love it. And they, I, I read a great interview with them and they said something really cool, which was. When the movie first started, I was looking at the credits and uh, 'cause I like to support everybody in the arts, you know?
[00:27:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Mm-hmm.
[00:27:14] Paul Scheer: Not just about the people in front of.
[00:27:15] Jason Mantzoukas: Sure. The below the line people are very important to you.
[00:27:17] Paul Scheer: I always say that.
[00:27:18] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:27:18] Paul Scheer: Um, but there is a thing where like the VFX is really high up and I was like. This movie needs VFX? And then I'm like, oh, it does.
[00:27:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[00:27:27] Paul Scheer: And and why is it they, they're like, our VFX are there to make you like, you don't even know that they're there. Yeah. And that's part of it too, is it's, so it hides seams and cleans up interesting stuff. And you can't like, yeah. So you don't know what, uh, I mean yeah, you don't, there's so much stuff that I'm sure is happening with little tweaks that you can't even tell. It's awesome.
[00:27:49] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, that's cool. I'm excited.
[00:27:50] Paul Scheer: I think you'll love it. Yeah. I think you'll will absolutely love it. But yeah, highly.
[00:27:54] Jason Mantzoukas: I will, I will recommend I'm, you know, I, I love any and every detective show that is on television.
[00:28:02] Paul Scheer: Of course.
[00:28:02] Jason Mantzoukas: Um, and so there's been two that have been, uh, recently on that I've loved. Um, I powered through all of Young Sherlock, which is.
[00:28:11] Paul Scheer: Oh, i've been, it's on my list. Guy Richie, right?
[00:28:14] Jason Mantzoukas: Guy Richie's Young. Sherlock. It's an absolute blast. Um, it basically is like college age Sherlock. Um, and he becomes best friends with Moriarty, and it's basically like they're on cases that are, you know, that, that, that affect them, you know, and it's, it's, uh, and Sherlock's whole family is a part of it. It's, um, not Ray Fines, Joseph Fines, the brother
[00:28:38] Paul Scheer: Oh wow.
[00:28:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Is his father. And it's, it's great. And he's a Fines. The Sherlock, the, the, the actor who plays Sherlock is a Fines as well, but not.
[00:28:46] Paul Scheer: What a find.
[00:28:47] Jason Mantzoukas: What a Fine finds he is. Um, anyway, um, but it's got that like kinetic guy Richie style and vibe.
[00:28:54] Paul Scheer: Oh, I love this. I love that Guy Richie's like second coming.
[00:28:57] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:28:57] Paul Scheer: Is this like kind of cool shows and doing this? Did you I mean, I was obsessed when I was a kid with young Sherlock Holmes, the movie.
[00:29:05] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, I didn't see it.
[00:29:05] Paul Scheer: Oh, okay. When I was a kid there was a movie called Young Sherlock Holmes and it's like the game was afoot and that was like the big part of it, but it was a college age, or you know, a high school age.
[00:29:14] Jason Mantzoukas: That's cool.
[00:29:15] Paul Scheer: And it was, it was such a fun way to kind of do Sherlock and it's a way to like, I don't know, it's like you, you can also give him, um. You can beat him down a little bit.
[00:29:25] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:29:25] Paul Scheer: Like he doesn't have to be Sherlock at full power.
[00:29:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, that's, well that's what's fun about it, is you are watching him become that, learn the lessons of Sherlock Holmes. Right? You are. He doesn't know everything. He's not, so he's kind of like stumbling his way through things, which is very fun.
[00:29:42] Paul Scheer: Oh, I love it.
[00:29:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Um, and in many ways, Moriarity is more attuned to certain things and is more perceptive or, you know, they're, they're having their competition of minds and deductive reasoning and all that kind of stuff. It's great.
[00:29:57] Paul Scheer: So no Watson?
[00:29:58] Jason Mantzoukas: No, uh uh. No Watson.
[00:30:01] Paul Scheer: That makes sense there because Watson's kind of coming in.
[00:30:03] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, yeah. I think Watson's later, but I'm trying to think if there's anybody who's like a Watson stand in.
[00:30:07] Paul Scheer: It seems like Moriarty is, or, or they are that relationship or they.
[00:30:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:30:11] Paul Scheer: Vice versa.
[00:30:11] Jason Mantzoukas: It is more Moriarty. It, it is a two-hander for him and Moriarty, which is great.
[00:30:15] Paul Scheer: Oh, I love it.
[00:30:16] Jason Mantzoukas: Um, I also watched a show called Sherlock and Daughter.
[00:30:20] Paul Scheer: Oh, what?
[00:30:20] Jason Mantzoukas: In which David Thules plays Sherlock.
[00:30:23] Paul Scheer: Wow.
[00:30:24] Jason Mantzoukas: And this is like a almost, I would say a YA Sherlock story. Okay. Because I, the main character is like his daughter who is.
[00:30:34] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:30:34] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm gonna say 17 or 18.
[00:30:37] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:30:37] Jason Mantzoukas: Or, you know, late teenage years age daughter, who comes from, we think it's his daughter. There's some question mark.
[00:30:44] Paul Scheer: Oh, I'm, I'm looking at it right now. Very Wyatt. It's a CW show.
[00:30:47] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:30:47] Paul Scheer: Or it looks like a Yes. Okay, got it. Yeah.
[00:30:48] Jason Mantzoukas: And but also a blast.
[00:30:51] Paul Scheer: And by the way, great cast.
[00:30:52] Jason Mantzoukas: And David Thules is unreal in it. Yes.
[00:30:54] Paul Scheer: Gray Scott.
[00:30:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Yep.
[00:30:55] Paul Scheer: Is in this? Yeah. Wow. I love this.
[00:30:57] Jason Mantzoukas: He plays the Grownup Moriarty. Um, it's great. It's a, and that was also very satisfying and very fun, but a, a, a very light, both of them are very kind of like light Sherlocks, you know?
[00:31:11] Paul Scheer: Love, I love that. Oh, you know what has been killing me. Uh, I've been laughing so hard. The Fall and Rise of Reggie Dinkins.
[00:31:19] Jason Mantzoukas: We talked about it before when it was just the pilot.
[00:31:21] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:31:21] Jason Mantzoukas: But absolutely. Let's talk about it now because more episodes are finally available
[00:31:26] Paul Scheer: and I, I like the pilot. I thought the pilot was very funny. Yeah. But man, oh man. It exponentially gets funnier and funnier and funnier. It's like, it's almost like a superpowered 30 Rock in the sense it's like, okay, that's our premise. And boom and boom and boom. And it's like, and they're just, they're fire. And by episode four you're like, this is just wall to wall.
[00:31:45] Jason Mantzoukas: We just don't have many joke machine shows anymore.
[00:31:50] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:31:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Like our, our comedies are feeling a little soft and a little sweet and, or just a little not funny, um, lately. And so. This show, like that kind of Robert Carlock, Tina Fey, sharp joke, dense shows I'm missing. You know, like the Girls Five EVAs and the 30 Rocks and this is scratching that itch and then some.
[00:32:15] Paul Scheer: And it's really what I love too, is like they, I also feel. And I, I say this with the most, uh, love. Tracy's getting the rust off very quickly.
[00:32:25] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:32:25] Paul Scheer: Like in the beginning I was like, oh, I don't know if this is like, ah, I want it to be kind of, and then I'm like, oh, he is in the pocket.
[00:32:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:32:31] Paul Scheer: Firing on all cylinders. And I'm like, oh, this is really, really well done. And the cast just pops and great people popping up. Corbin Bernson in an episode.
[00:32:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Craig robinson.
[00:32:41] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah.
[00:32:41] Jason Mantzoukas: And Heidi Gardner in there. It's got. It is. I think that show is dynamite and it, my only like feeling is uh, like a lot of these shows that I think are so great. I just wish it was on NBC.
[00:32:54] Paul Scheer: Well, that's the thing. It's like.
[00:32:56] Jason Mantzoukas: Like, I don't know that people are in the habit of going to Peacock to find a show.
[00:33:00] Paul Scheer: Well, I think it was, I think what they did was they did play it on NBC after the Super Bowl.
[00:33:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:33:05] Paul Scheer: And then they played it again and it had like this
[00:33:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, they did?
[00:33:07] Paul Scheer: Crazy rating. It was almost like.
[00:33:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh good.
[00:33:10] Paul Scheer: It was like over, because our, our buddy Phil Jackson, who we do Dinosaur with, he is one of the writers on it. And I'm gonna look at the thing 'cause it's a, it's a crazy stat because I think what we're talking about is like, why don't they make these things? Do people not want these things? And the answer is they, they love these things.
[00:33:25] Jason Mantzoukas: They just don't know how to find them.
[00:33:26] Paul Scheer: Right. I think and it's, it's like you have to get it on every possible thing. You just don't know.
[00:33:30] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:33:31] Paul Scheer: 'Cause people wanna watch it. I'm just see with the, the status kind of crazy.
[00:33:34] Jason Mantzoukas: And people like pe it's so hard because so many people watch things passively and you know when you are having, you know, like when your show's on Netflix or someplace that some service or something that everybody, for the most part has.
[00:33:47] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:33:47] Jason Mantzoukas: It gets those eyeballs, you know, it's like, um, um, uh, I was talking to Sam Richardson who was saying that Detroiters has just been put on Netflix and that it's finding a whole new audience and people are acting like. Oh, I saw your new show. You know, and he's, oh no, that's a very old show.
[00:34:07] But thank you. And that's, and it's such a good thing, but something on Peacock. So few people have it, and so few people know to go there, to find the new Tracy Morgan show.
[00:34:17] Paul Scheer: I totally agree. I mean, we've been fighting this fight. Uh, and I'll say it out loud here because if anyone works at Sony or Netflix, we can't get Black Monday to stream anywhere.
[00:34:27] And that's Don Cheadle. Regina Hall. Yeah, Andrew Randalls. Me. Casey. You know, Wilson, it's like there's so many funny people on it. It's like, just get it on. Like why is it like trapped? It's not, it's not. It's just like it's. You can buy it, but like put it on a streamer. Let people watch these things.
[00:34:41] Jason Mantzoukas: It's crazy.
[00:34:41] Paul Scheer: It's like, like it's just free. It's a free show. Like, whatcha you gonna pay the license? It's not gonna be expensive. Here it is. This is the stat, The Fall and Rise of Reggie Dinkins. The pilot ratings jumped more than a hundred percent reaching 13 million viewers since the premiere. And that was like over a month ago. But that.
[00:34:57] Jason Mantzoukas: That's awesome.
[00:34:57] Paul Scheer: 13 million is.
[00:34:59] Jason Mantzoukas: That's huge.
[00:34:59] Paul Scheer: Giant for a comedy.
[00:35:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Great. I love that.
[00:35:02] Paul Scheer: And that's awesome.
[00:35:02] Jason Mantzoukas: I love that. And I hope it continues to thrive and create an appetite for more shows like this that are funny.
[00:35:09] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:35:10] Jason Mantzoukas: You know, not that are not, you know, and I love all the, all the shows that, all the comedies that are sweet and dramedies and the shows that are, yeah. There's not funny like The Bear, but are nonetheless considered comedies. It's a great show. Um, but like.
[00:35:23] Paul Scheer: We just don't need to have, we don't have to live, learn, love, and grow. We could just make people laugh and it's just dumb.
[00:35:28] Jason Mantzoukas: We can just do bits and enjoy them. Absolutely.
[00:35:30] Paul Scheer: Yes. I mean, and that's Nirvana, The Band, The Show, you know, or the movie. Yeah, it's like everywhere.
[00:35:34] Jason Mantzoukas: Or Jackass.
[00:35:35] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:35:35] Jason Mantzoukas: You know what I mean? Like Jackass is a show that I feel like, boy is that such a funny show.
[00:35:39] Paul Scheer: It's so, so good. Uh, well Jason, let's get to work. We'll fix that and by the next episode we should be on track. I feel like we'll get a bunch more.
[00:35:47] Jason Mantzoukas: I think we'll have figured out everything.
[00:35:49] Paul Scheer: Alright, talk to you soon.
[00:35:51] Alright. Thank you Jason for just chatting with me. But now it's finally time to announce our next movie. Next week we will be going from Nisa loves cool Jason to Ladies Love cool James. That's right. We are watching 2005's. Mind Hunter starring Val Kilmer, Christian Slater, and of course, lL Cool J. Oh boy. I love this movie. Uh, IMDB describes it as this,
[00:36:13] "A group of FBI trainees are taken to a remote island for a simulation. Uh, but once they're there, they realize that they are being hunted by a serial killer."
[00:36:21] Ooh, rotten Tomatoes gives this film a 25% score on the tomato meter, and Richard Roper from Hebert and Roper says
[00:36:28] "Mind Hunters is supposed to open in the spring of 2003, but they kept on pushing back the release date. They should have kept pushing."
[00:36:35] Ooh, Richard Roper with a slam. I liked Richard. Uh, let's take a listen to the trailer.
[00:36:40] Trailer Audio: They are the FBI's newest profilers.
[00:36:43] You're all smart or you wouldn't be here.
[00:36:44] I just want you to be smarter.
[00:36:46] Trained to get into the minds of the most elusive serial killers. Now, someone trained to think like a killer.
[00:36:53] There's just one problem.
[00:36:55] Is about to become one.
[00:36:57] There's no one here but us.
[00:37:04] Paul Scheer: You can stream Mind Hunters on Stars and Philo, and you can rent it at all the usual places that you rent movies. Um, okay, so. That is it for Last Looks. If you listen to us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, please rate and review us. Please also make sure you are following us and have automatic downloads turned on, have automatic downloads turned on.
[00:37:21] It helps us show and we appreciate this. Visit us on social media, @HDTGM and a big thank you to our producer, Scott Sonne, Molly Reynolds, our engineer, Casey Holford, our social media manager, Zoe Applebaum, our intern Quinn Jennings. And of course, we'll forever be thankful to the one and only Avaryl Halley.
[00:37:37] We will see you next week for Mind Hunters.