Brendan Fraser stars in 2001's Monkeybone—a dark comedy based on a child's erection that's a Drop Dead Fred situation wrapped in a Jacob's Ladder scenario. LIVE from NYC, HDTGM all-star Rob Huebel helps Paul and Jason discuss Stu's flabby arm fetish, if Bridget Fonda was an unethical doctor, Chris Kattan's electric performance as a reanimated corpse of a gymnast, all the weird characters in Down Town, Monkeybone's sex scene with Julie, and so much more. Plus, special guest Griffin Newman from the Blank Check podcast drops by to passionately defend Monkeybone as a great film. Oh, and the crew talk with MULTIPLE audience members who have actually been in a coma.
Brendan Fraser stars in 2001's Monkeybone—a dark comedy based on a child's erection that's a Drop Dead Fred situation wrapped in a Jacob's Ladder scenario. LIVE from NYC, HDTGM all-star Rob Huebel helps Paul and Jason discuss Stu's flabby arm fetish, if Bridget Fonda was an unethical doctor, Chris Kattan's electric performance as a reanimated corpse of a gymnast, all the weird characters in Down Town, Monkeybone's sex scene with Julie, and so much more. Plus, special guest Griffin Newman from the Blank Check podcast drops by to passionately defend Monkeybone as a great film. Oh, and the crew talk with MULTIPLE audience members who have actually been in a coma.
[00:00:00] Paul Scheer: Yes, it's a movie based on a child's erection. We saw Monkeybone so you know what that means.
[00:00:12] Music: [Intro Song]
[00:00:59] Paul Scheer: Hello people of Earth and hello New York City. We are live at the New York Comedy Festival, at Town Hall, talking about the Brendan Frazier Stop Motion Live Action Kids Movie? Monkeybone. If you've not seen Monkeybone, our whole audience has, it is about, according to IMDB,
[00:01:34] "In a coma, a cartoonist finds himself trapped within his own underground creation and must find a way to get back while racing against his popular but treacherous character, Monkeybone."
[00:01:48] No, that's not right. That is not right at all. It's a terrible description. I wish AI wrote it. Um, it is directed by Henry Sellek and, um, boy oh boy. If you don't know the year this movie was produced, you might be surprised it has a 21 on the tomato meter and a 29 in the audience meter. So just a little bit higher.
[00:02:14] We are gonna break this film down a film that in the 15 years of doing, How Did This Get Made, I literally wrote down in my notes, how did this get made?
[00:02:32] Completely boggled me. I was like, how would script look like? Why did anyone agree to this? Bridget Fonda, is this why she stopped acting? But tonight we will, we will try to explain it all and we have some very special help. But first, let me introduce my co-host, Mr. Jason Mantzoukas!
[00:03:05] Jason Mantzoukas: What's up, jerks? Let's go, let's go New York. Yeah, that's right. We did it baby.
[00:03:20] Paul Scheer: Uh, Jason.
[00:03:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Paul.
[00:03:21] Paul Scheer: Monkeybone.
[00:03:23] Jason Mantzoukas: Never seen it.
[00:03:26] Paul Scheer: Never heard of it.
[00:03:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Never. And, and, and, and having watched it, I, I still don't know if I've seen it. I was flummoxed and confounded, uh, by it on almost every level.
[00:03:38] Paul Scheer: I watch this movie at 10:00 AM today. And when I was the most clearheaded.
[00:03:46] Jason Mantzoukas: I watched it on the train yesterday and was like, I hope people don't see that I'm watching this.
[00:03:53] Paul Scheer: Jason, we have so much to break down.
[00:03:56] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, let's get it down.
[00:03:56] Paul Scheer: And, and you know, we wanted to bring out a very special guest tonight, a person who is How Did This Get Made All Star been on a handful of episode episodes.
[00:04:06] You know him, uh, from shows like Children's Hospital and Transparent, uh, Human Giant, and most importantly, he loves to let the bodies hit the floor.
[00:04:16] Please welcome Rob Huebel!
[00:04:28] I didn't even know that you had that queued up. I was like, oh, this will be a, like you.
[00:04:31] Rob Huebel: I, two seconds ago. I go, is there any way you could play Let The Bodies Hit The Floor? And this,
[00:04:38] Jason Mantzoukas: And they had it.
[00:04:38] Rob Huebel: Lovely one was like, right now? She did it. Wow.
[00:04:44] Paul Scheer: Uh, the tagline of this movie, Get Boned. The other one is, If it yells, if it swings, it's gotta be Monkeybone. And then, Bone to be bad.
[00:05:02] Jason Mantzoukas: Bone to be bad. Bone. I like bone to be bad.
[00:05:05] Rob Huebel: I'm crossing my legs because thinking of the movie makes me hard.
[00:05:11] Paul Scheer: Well, I mean.
[00:05:12] Rob Huebel: It gave me like a one of those throwback teenage boners that's like.
[00:05:18] Jason Mantzoukas: That's what the whole movie's about basically.
[00:05:20] Rob Huebel: Oh yeah.
[00:05:20] Paul Scheer: Well this is the question, right? They refer to him at one point as a figment of his imagination.
[00:05:27] Jason Mantzoukas: This is a Drop Dead Fred situation.
[00:05:30] Paul Scheer: Well.
[00:05:31] Jason Mantzoukas: This dead, dead Fred situation wrapped in a Jacob's Ladder situation, I believe. This is, I believe we are double situation here.
[00:05:40] Paul Scheer: I mean, because this is, I mean, it is an erection that has become loose, right?
[00:05:48] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:05:48] Paul Scheer: I mean that's.
[00:05:48] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah.
[00:05:49] Paul Scheer: And, and I guess the thing that I'm like. Well, first of all, I have an issue because
[00:05:54] Jason Mantzoukas: A sentient loose dick is running around. I have a, oh, before we jump in, I had a, I have a super quick question.
[00:06:00] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:06:00] Jason Mantzoukas: 'Cause I think, uh, maybe you or the audience in the trailer that we all watched, number one Monkeybones, accent varied voices, completely different.
[00:06:09] It sounds just like Tuturro. Normal Tutturro.
[00:06:12] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:06:13] Jason Mantzoukas: But in the movie, it sounds like Turturro is doing Steve Buscemi. Am I right or am I wrong? I thought it, I thought it was, was Buscemi.
[00:06:23] Rob Huebel: I thought it was Joey Pants.
[00:06:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, that would be good too. But I, I thought it was Buscemi so much that when I saw it was Tutturo I was like, oh, weird. Maybe he's just doing a Buscemi impression. And then I watched this and he was, it's just him, normal voice also in this.
[00:06:35] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:06:36] Jason Mantzoukas: I don't remember a big pipe. I don't remember a big pipe falling well as the inciting incident. For his, um, coma situation.
[00:06:46] Paul Scheer: I do have the, uh, original opening and the, uh, alternate ending.
[00:06:51] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, whoa.
[00:06:52] Paul Scheer: You can see.
[00:06:52] Jason Mantzoukas: You're telling us there's more Monkeybone to watch.
[00:06:54] Paul Scheer: There's a lot more bone where that came from.
[00:06:58] Rob Huebel: Oh man.
[00:06:59] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, don't worry. We've got a couple of more inches.
[00:07:03] Paul Scheer: Um, I imagine that that voice change is because at a certain point when they found the film to be unreleasable and the director, Henry Selleck, uh, was.
[00:07:11] Jason Mantzoukas: A legitimate legend. Henry Selleck from Coralline, James and the Giant Peach, the Nightmare before Christmas, like a true legend makes this absolute fever nightmare.
[00:07:23] Rob Huebel: Well, was this after those?
[00:07:26] Paul Scheer: Well, do you wanna guess what year it is? This is a, this is always a good question. Like, if you know it, then it's not fun. But do you guys know?
[00:07:31] Rob Huebel: I, I don't know. I, the only thing at the very end, and I don't wanna jump ahead, but. Maybe I won't. But she says that some, she makes a South Park joke.
[00:07:41] Paul Scheer: Oh yes.
[00:07:41] Rob Huebel: And I was like, and I was like, okay, so this is.
[00:07:43] Jason Mantzoukas: But South Park has been on the air for like, yeah. Many 20 years. More than 20. I feel like I've been burned on this so many times before. I wanna say this is like in the nineties, but I feel like you're gonna tell me it came out in 2018. Like I, right. I feel like I've fallen for this before. And you're about to be like, it is actually a new release in theaters now. It is. Brendan Frazier's post Whale release.
[00:08:09] Paul Scheer: You can see this in 4DX at any AMC. Uh, no. I thought it was also nineties. It felt to me like Georgia, the jungle era.
[00:08:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Big time. Yeah.
[00:08:18] Paul Scheer: 2001. So I was still surprised.
[00:08:21] Rob Huebel: Hold on. Before or after September 11th?
[00:08:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:08:25] Paul Scheer: Well, interesting fact. It caused September 11th.
[00:08:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Whoa.
[00:08:29] Rob Huebel: That makes.
[00:08:30] Jason Mantzoukas: It was on the screens, on the planes?
[00:08:35] Paul Scheer: Everyone was so busy watching it.
[00:08:37] Jason Mantzoukas: Check on New York. The balcony gets it.
[00:08:43] Paul Scheer: That's right. Our balcony monsters here. They know what's up. Yeah. Everyone was so busy watching it that that's what happened.
[00:08:49] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:08:49] Paul Scheer: Um, here's what I'll say. Um, I think we're gonna come up against this throughout the, uh, throughout the discussion. So I think it's worthy of putting out there. Henry Selleck fired from the film studio goes, we need to fix this. So they hire Christopher Columbus to come in and make it more palatable.
[00:09:07] Rob Huebel: This movie?
[00:09:08] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:09:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Home, Home Alone. Chris Columbus.
[00:09:11] Paul Scheer: Yes. Uh, Harry Potter. Chris Yes.
[00:09:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Harry Potter. Uh, Chris Columbus.
[00:09:14] Paul Scheer: So basically I think that that voice change and things like that.
[00:09:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Discoverer of America, Chris Columbus.
[00:09:18] Paul Scheer: Yes. 1492.
[00:09:21] Jason Mantzoukas: The Santa Maria.
[00:09:23] Paul Scheer: The, uh, so that I think is some like we're gonna see. As we look at some of the footage, that's why things have changed. But I think premise wise, the movie has not changed at all because it still is about an erection that goes wild. And I will say this, I know it's very hard to create a compelling cartoon, but the movie opens up with a cartoon, then I'm like, goes, then that's the pilot. I'm like, oh, terrible pilot.
[00:09:49] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:09:50] Paul Scheer: Terrible pilot. And is what the pilot, two minutes. And I understand it's a compacted version of the pilot, but I'm like, what's like, what are we watching?
[00:09:57] Jason Mantzoukas: We got, I have notes on the pilot.
[00:10:00] Rob Huebel: Well, I really like the cartoon because I also am very aroused by flap. Like, oh, arm flaps. If I see that on an older teacher it.
[00:10:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Oh yeah.
[00:10:11] Rob Huebel: Yeah.
[00:10:11] Paul Scheer: I guess like, this is my question, like, was this movie supposed to be like South Park?
[00:10:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, to me, it felt like, it felt to me like the Monkeybone cartoon that Stu has created at that time feels like it's very Ren and Stimpy coated.
[00:10:27] Paul Scheer: Okay.
[00:10:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Kind of gross out, kind of like, you know, the right, like that era of animated stuff. It felt like, and I, so much so that I was like, oh, is he supposed to be a John K kind of character? Uh, before we all realized that John K was a villain, you know?
[00:10:42] Rob Huebel: Sure.
[00:10:42] Paul Scheer: Well, but that was the thing. I couldn't quite tell like, what it was going for. Like the, it's like that's our pilot. They looked like they were showing it where you would have a wake.
[00:10:50] Rob Huebel: Um, I, I, I, I had a, I had a bit of a panic attack because I didn't, I didn't know anything about the movie.
[00:10:56] Jason Mantzoukas: Welcome to How Did This Get Made.
[00:10:58] Rob Huebel: I, I was worried that the whole movie was that cartoon.
[00:11:01] Paul Scheer: Oh God. Oh yeah.
[00:11:01] Rob Huebel: Oh, I was in my hotel and I was like, fucking Scheer, man.
[00:11:06] Paul Scheer: No, it gets weirder and worse. Uh, and look, he is an, a frustrated, I mean, I, and this is the thing. I don't know even about this guy because we kill him immediately.
[00:11:19] Jason Mantzoukas: Yep.
[00:11:20] Paul Scheer: He seems to be very, I mean, we know he is successful from the pilot that has not aired yet, is merchandised like crazy.
[00:11:28] Rob Huebel: Except he he doesn't want to do the merch.
[00:11:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Exactly.
[00:11:29] Rob Huebel: He doesn't like the, the biz aspect of it. He wants to get married to his lady.
[00:11:33] Jason Mantzoukas: He's free. He's like a true Gen X doesn't wanna sell out. Fuck that shit. I'm a purist. My stuff matters. Not like now where everybody can't wait to get that bag.
[00:11:44] Paul Scheer: But it seems to me like, well, you drew this thing about a dick running loose. Like no one forced your hand on this. Like, he's like, oh, I'm so frustrated with this thing that I created.
[00:11:55] Rob Huebel: The success of my cartoons yet.
[00:11:56] Paul Scheer: And it has not even been successful yet.
[00:11:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Also, they seem to, the, the merchandising options are aimed very much at young children. The cartoon absolutely is not. There's no way that cartoon, that horny, uh, yeah, boner cartoon is meant for little kids the same way that all of the merchandise is absolutely for little kids.
[00:12:20] Paul Scheer: And I guess so the, all the monkey wants to do is fuck. Right? That's, that's the premise. And the boy doesn't wanna fuck.
[00:12:30] Rob Huebel: Well, little boys.
[00:12:33] Jason Mantzoukas: No. What do you mean? Do you mean in the in, in the, in the pilot. Yeah. In the pilot. He's embarrassed 'cause he got a boner and.
[00:12:41] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Right. But it's a, but it's the boys. Like, oh, oh, flabby arms. But I guess the movie does high.
[00:12:47] Jason Mantzoukas: This was like a, this was one of those like, oh no, I'm having an uncontrollable boner in school. Everybody's gonna make fun of me. And they do.
[00:12:55] Paul Scheer: Well. But it also says, flabby arms, turn me on.
[00:12:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, no. Absolutely. This is a moment where we see a, a fetish being born.
[00:13:02] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:13:03] Jason Mantzoukas: You know, like.
[00:13:04] Rob Huebel: But but also creative problem solving. Just stacking books on your boner.
[00:13:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. What I couldn't figure out was like, I feel like then Stu's kink or fetish would've been flabby armed people. Yeah. Like, but he doesn't, that never comes back.
[00:13:20] Rob Huebel: Never comes back.
[00:13:20] Jason Mantzoukas: You know? Hey, that's the only thing wrong with the movie, really.
[00:13:24] Rob Huebel: That's all. That's it.
[00:13:25] Paul Scheer: Case closed.
[00:13:26] Rob Huebel: That's it.
[00:13:26] Paul Scheer: Now, I guess. And I don't wanna like talk about kids fucking, but I will say.
[00:13:31] Rob Huebel: I'll talk about it. I'm against it.
[00:13:36] Paul Scheer: By the way. Me too. And that's the shirt. No kids fucking, uh. But like, what's the relationship between the boy and the boner?
[00:13:47] Jason Mantzoukas: That's interesting.
[00:13:47] Rob Huebel: We're real. We're getting real wrapped around the axle here. I think.
[00:13:50] Jason Mantzoukas: I mean, I think the relationship between the boy and the boner is that it's his penis getting erect.
[00:13:58] Paul Scheer: Right. But I mean.
[00:13:58] Jason Mantzoukas: I think, I think, and then Stus obviously turning it into a monkey that is so out of control. The way that your boner is out of control when you're that age, you're like, I don't know why it's doing what it's doing.
[00:14:09] Rob Huebel: I mean, I'll just explain it to you. Yeah. What happens is.
[00:14:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:14:11] Rob Huebel: Your body becomes engorged with blood.
[00:14:14] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:14:14] Rob Huebel: And it rushes down to your penis.
[00:14:16] Paul Scheer: Got it.
[00:14:17] Rob Huebel: And then all the blood squirts out of your pee hole.
[00:14:19] Paul Scheer: Yes. Got, yeah.
[00:14:20] Jason Mantzoukas: All the, it's like all of your white blood cells pour out of the penis got, and the red blood cells stay inside your body right.
[00:14:27] Paul Scheer: Oh my God.
[00:14:27] Rob Huebel: That's where babies come from.
[00:14:28] Jason Mantzoukas: And please, no doctors or nurses correct us.
[00:14:33] Paul Scheer: I guess what I was thinking was like. I, I feel like the movie's trying to set up a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde scenario. Like the version of him that's the monkey is sex crazed. And then he is depressed. I mean, like, he seems like he wants to get back to being depressed.
[00:14:49] Jason Mantzoukas: I think the monkey is a very, like, ID, it's just his unchecked ID and he is then otherwise all super ego, I guess, controlled and.
[00:14:59] Paul Scheer: I mean yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like, it's, it's kind of like his other side is neither, it's not even interesting at all. Like, it's not like I'm the buttoned up guy.
[00:15:06] Jason Mantzoukas: It's like, and the bummer is that when he gets sent to, um, downtown, whatever, it's down.
[00:15:13] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:15:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Whatever the underworld is here.
[00:15:15] Rob Huebel: Yeah. Land of the Dead. I think.
[00:15:16] Jason Mantzoukas: He is. I don't understand what he's up to. He seems like I, I, I don't know. I gotta get outta here. Well, I don't wanna be here. What a bummer to not want be in the coolest place ever.
[00:15:27] Paul Scheer: But is it also is downtown, specific to him. I thought it was, I thought he was going to hit in his imagination. 'cause it seemed like, oh, these are characters that I created.
[00:15:38] Jason Mantzoukas: But No, no. 'cause there's a Picasso Bull. Yeah, there's a Joe Camel. There's a Joe Camel. This fucked me up. The Joe Camel character fucked me up. I rewound.
[00:15:50] Rob Huebel: It's a great Joe Camel.
[00:15:51] Jason Mantzoukas: It's great.
[00:15:52] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:15:52] Rob Huebel: It's better than Joe Camel.
[00:15:54] Jason Mantzoukas: It's so much better than Joe Camel because you can fuck it.
[00:15:58] Rob Huebel: But yeah, I think that's just everybody's nightmares.
[00:16:01] Paul Scheer: Yes. Okay. So everyone's nightmares now. Then I have an, now I'm jumping ahead to say, so everyone there, they're in purgatory waiting to either go back up or
[00:16:12] Jason Mantzoukas: Go down.
[00:16:13] Paul Scheer: Go down.
[00:16:13] Jason Mantzoukas: So are they all in comas? That's, that's what I couldn't, I didn't know either.
[00:16:17] Paul Scheer: So is Stephen King in this movie In a coma?
[00:16:20] Jason Mantzoukas: Great question. Great.
[00:16:22] Rob Huebel: Why is Stephen King in this movie?
[00:16:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:16:25] Rob Huebel: Why is Stephen, why are those Stephen Kings?
[00:16:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Is that Stephen King or an actor playing Stephen King?
[00:16:29] Paul Scheer: So Stephen King was supposed to be in the movie.
[00:16:32] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, okay.
[00:16:32] Paul Scheer: Did not show up on the day that they were shooting it, and then they put that guy in it.
[00:16:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Just a, like a somebody on the crew.
[00:16:41] Paul Scheer: Yeah. But I mean, but that's another thing is like, all right, so.
[00:16:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Is this the only movie that Stephen King has acted in?
[00:16:46] Paul Scheer: No. He was in Maximum Overdrive, I believe.
[00:16:48] Jason Mantzoukas: A movie he directed.
[00:16:49] Rob Huebel: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:16:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Insanely.
[00:16:51] Rob Huebel: Yes. So is that about a fuckable car? Can you fuck that car? No, that's Christine. No, that's Christine.
[00:16:55] Paul Scheer: No, you can't fuck Christine.
[00:16:56] Rob Huebel: I did.
[00:16:57] Paul Scheer: Oh.
[00:16:59] Jason Mantzoukas: I think you can fuck any car. But none of those movies were about explicitly fucking a car.
[00:17:04] Rob Huebel: Great point, great point.
[00:17:05] Jason Mantzoukas: New York's not a car culture. You wouldn't get it.
[00:17:08] Rob Huebel: They don't even know what a car is.
[00:17:10] Paul Scheer: It's like, um, it's like a personal subway, a car. So, so now, uh.
[00:17:15] Jason Mantzoukas: You guys would understand it as, can you fuck a bus?
[00:17:22] Paul Scheer: But I guess the thing is. He's there. And then when he sees this old man who looks, and I'm not trying to be ageist at all.
[00:17:31] Rob Huebel: Yeah. Don't look.
[00:17:32] Paul Scheer: It looked very, very old to me. And he is like, no, he can't die. I'm like, why not? Like, why not? Like why, like Yeah.
[00:17:39] Rob Huebel: We didn't, we didn't get to know that character. I think that was just to establish the exit past.
[00:17:43] Paul Scheer: Right. Then you, but he was, but he's trying to stop the old man from dying, from dying.
[00:17:48] Jason Mantzoukas: There's a, oh no.
[00:17:50] Rob Huebel: He's trying to stop him from leaving.
[00:17:51] Paul Scheer: Oh, okay.
[00:17:52] Rob Huebel: And going back to. Right?
[00:17:56] Paul Scheer: Wait, the old man's going back up?
[00:17:57] Rob Huebel: Waking up.
[00:17:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah.
[00:17:58] Paul Scheer: Oh.
[00:17:58] Jason Mantzoukas: The old man gets a ticket to exit, puts the helmet on.
[00:18:03] Paul Scheer: Oh. Oh, right.
[00:18:03] Jason Mantzoukas: And the, the hammer hits the mallet and he goes flying into Abe Lincoln head.
[00:18:07] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:18:08] Jason Mantzoukas: This is an Abe Lincoln head. Incredible stuff.
[00:18:12] Rob Huebel: You never got to see the old man's boner either.
[00:18:15] Paul Scheer: No.
[00:18:16] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:18:16] Paul Scheer: And why is his boner in purgatory?
[00:18:22] Jason Mantzoukas: Wait, you mean Monkeybone?
[00:18:24] Paul Scheer: Monkeybone seemingly exists in,
[00:18:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, okay. So, okay, so that's a great question. Stu AkA Brendan Frazier.
[00:18:34] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:18:35] Jason Mantzoukas: Frazier. When he's in the net.
[00:18:37] Rob Huebel: AKA Encino man.
[00:18:39] Jason Mantzoukas: And AKA The Whale. Um, when he's in downtown, when he's in this limbo world. Do you think he has no dick? Because.
[00:18:50] Paul Scheer: No, he's turned on by the girl.
[00:18:51] Jason Mantzoukas: His dick is left his body and is now.
[00:18:53] Paul Scheer: But he's turned.
[00:18:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Physicalized.
[00:18:54] Paul Scheer: No, 'cause he's turned on by that girl. 'cause he's like, I love my girlfriend. And that girl kind of comes in for the kiss. The cat.
[00:19:00] Rob Huebel: That's Rose McGowan.
[00:19:01] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah. I'm just talking about her character.
[00:19:02] Rob Huebel: By the way, if this, if that, this is a bigger question, but, uh, like, I don't know who this movie is for, but like there's a lot of us Rose McGowan's boobs in this movie.
[00:19:11] Paul Scheer: Well, yes, but he goes from literally saying, I love my girlfriend. I was gonna ask her to marry me and then, then Rose McGowan just kinda leans in. He is like, Ugh. I'm like, wow, you really dropped that quick.
[00:19:22] Rob Huebel: Yeah.
[00:19:22] Paul Scheer: You don't even know this person.
[00:19:23] Rob Huebel: Well, well, the monkey too crawls down her shirt and then he says, I left my phone number in your panties, or something like that. Which is a pretty.
[00:19:31] Paul Scheer: Which is not abnormal.
[00:19:31] Jason Mantzoukas: I've tried that move. It doesn't work.
[00:19:33] Rob Huebel: Doesn't work.
[00:19:34] Paul Scheer: Doesn't work. I, I get.
[00:19:35] Rob Huebel: June would be furious at this conversation right now.
[00:19:39] Jason Mantzoukas: I mean, June is so thrilled she didn't have to watch this movie.
[00:19:43] Paul Scheer: June is thrilled that she, I I'm, I know that she had it on her plane, like it was right on the tarmac, like with the laptop open. If she watched it, it will be. I'm gonna hear it. Um, I will tell you. But I mean, so he hates the monkey. So I guess my question is, and I keep on asking questions to just establish reality, so is Joe Camel, somebody's Monkeybone?
[00:20:05] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh wow. Because Joe Camel is a dick.
[00:20:08] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:20:08] Jason Mantzoukas: I mean, like the, it is like, it, it looks like a dick.
[00:20:11] Rob Huebel: So remember there was a, oh, this is a deep cut, but there was a thing on, on those cigarettes where you could see dicks, right?
[00:20:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Yes. Joe Camel was.
[00:20:18] Rob Huebel: We're, we're getting off topic now, but.
[00:20:20] Jason Mantzoukas: We're, in fact we're not.
[00:20:21] Rob Huebel: We're sponsored by Camel Cigarettes.
[00:20:24] Paul Scheer: Um, but yeah, so Joe Camel is there.
[00:20:27] Rob Huebel: I don't know that everything, uh, downtown represents a boner.
[00:20:31] Jason Mantzoukas: I, yeah, I don't think.
[00:20:32] Paul Scheer: Some of it's nightmares.
[00:20:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Some of it's nightmares.
[00:20:34] Rob Huebel: It's nightmares. Yeah.
[00:20:34] Jason Mantzoukas: Quite a lot of it, I believe is nightmares.
[00:20:36] Rob Huebel: Yeah.
[00:20:36] Paul Scheer: Because also purgatory is the place where we create nightmares. So it's a little monster.
[00:20:41] Rob Huebel: But they were running out of nightmares too. That was like the real, yeah.
[00:20:44] Paul Scheer: And why?
[00:20:44] Jason Mantzoukas: They want, um, doctors.
[00:20:47] Rob Huebel: Well, Paul, if you have to ask.
[00:20:48] Jason Mantzoukas: They want Dr. Bridget Fonda's Nightmare Juice.
[00:20:53] Rob Huebel: Which is real. That's real.
[00:20:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Why in her sleep study. Why in her sleep study has she created nightmare juice? Like what, what is, what is the possible use for nightmare juice?
[00:21:05] Paul Scheer: And why would you call it nightmare juice?
[00:21:09] Jason Mantzoukas: And just keep it in like a thing in the refrigerator? I couldn't make heads or tails outta that also.
[00:21:15] Paul Scheer: And is that chimpanzee being tortured by nightmare?
[00:21:18] Jason Mantzoukas: Clearly, yes. As is the dog. And like there's a lot of very aggressive animal cruelty in this movie.
[00:21:24] Rob Huebel: Why hadn't, Julie the girlfriend, Bridgette Fonda says at one point that he had not had a good night's sleep in years.
[00:21:30] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:21:30] Rob Huebel: Why?
[00:21:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Because his nightmares are, he's, what blew my mind was, she says in that section of the movie that before he saw her, he had never drawn cartoons. He just drew those crazy nightmare paintings.
[00:21:44] Rob Huebel: Oh right, right.
[00:21:45] Jason Mantzoukas: And that after she started working with him and he could sleep more and then he started doing the car, the Monkeybone cartoons.
[00:21:51] Paul Scheer: Well, because he started drawing with his other hand.
[00:21:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, that's right.
[00:21:55] Rob Huebel: Right.
[00:21:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Thank you. Now is his other hand, his dick?
[00:22:00] Paul Scheer: And is she fucking her her patients?
[00:22:03] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. She's fucking her patients. Absolutely. Also. Okay, so he's in a coma.
[00:22:07] Paul Scheer: Again, this is for kids.
[00:22:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Maybe. Maybe it's for kids. He's in co.
[00:22:13] Rob Huebel: This is for kids. This is for kids whose parents have recently died.
[00:22:16] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:22:17] Rob Huebel: And they're just like living alone.
[00:22:19] Jason Mantzoukas: This is for latchkey kids.
[00:22:20] Rob Huebel: Yes. Yeah. Your parents still come home.
[00:22:23] Jason Mantzoukas: This is. That's right, latchkey kids. Where are you? Where are you, latchkey kids? Yeah.
[00:22:28] Rob Huebel: If your parents asked, what did you watch? You could just say, oh, this movie, Monkeybone.
[00:22:33] Paul Scheer: Right. They wouldn't ask. Wouldn't ask. They wouldn't ask follow-up questions.
[00:22:36] Jason Mantzoukas: What's crazy is he's in a coma. Megan Mulally incredibly plays his callous sister who can't wait for him to die.
[00:22:44] Rob Huebel: Three months.
[00:22:45] Jason Mantzoukas: And.
[00:22:46] Rob Huebel: Why?
[00:22:47] Jason Mantzoukas: In a way that, in a way that I was like, oh, when he dies, she must make money. Or she must, right? There must be a reason she's so glib about him dying. The reason they give is 'cause they saw a parent die and they agreed they'd never let each other suffer. But what's absolutely clear is that his brain activity is off the charts. He's in a coma, yes, but is he brain dead? Absolutely not. In fact, his brainwaves are going double crazy.
[00:23:17] Uh, Dr. Julie says.
[00:23:18] Rob Huebel: Well, that's the plan is to, is to make him have even more nightmare.
[00:23:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:23:21] Rob Huebel: So she can shock him awake.
[00:23:22] Jason Mantzoukas: But you wouldn't pull the plug on someone who is that much had that much brain activity.
[00:23:27] Paul Scheer: Well, but that's why they gave it a nice time. Now I've been in a situation where the plug has been pulled on somebody. I won't get into that story, but.
[00:23:35] Rob Huebel: That's a different podcast.
[00:23:36] Paul Scheer: That's a different podcast. No, but they, they don't schedule it. They're like, well they're gonna pull the plug tomorrow at 9:00 AM It's not like spoken about. Like.
[00:23:44] Rob Huebel: And you can't stop it.
[00:23:45] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:23:45] Rob Huebel: Cannot stop it.
[00:23:46] Jason Mantzoukas: I just got an evite to a plug pull.
[00:23:50] Paul Scheer: It was such a funny.
[00:23:51] Jason Mantzoukas: What am I supposed to bring?
[00:23:53] Paul Scheer: Weird thing that hang over like, oh yeah, well tomorrow you only have until tomorrow morning at nine then you dead. Um, I'll show you this one. Uh, alt clip four. Uh, but this is a, a scene that was edited out with, uh, Stu and his sister Alt clip four. Here we go.
[00:24:10] Mikayla, do you have that one Alt clip four? His sister one? You can't find that one? Okay, well then we don't have it.
[00:24:14] Rob Huebel: Well, what was it? It was, uh, 'cause there was.
[00:24:16] Paul Scheer: Well there was a scene scene where Stu comes onto his sister.
[00:24:20] Jason Mantzoukas: Wait, at once he's Monkeybone. When he's Stu or when he is Monkeybone?
[00:24:25] Paul Scheer: Monkeybone is trying to fuck his sister.
[00:24:26] Rob Huebel: Yeah, that's okay. That's fine.
[00:24:27] Jason Mantzoukas: I mean, Monkeybone doesn't know any better.
[00:24:29] Rob Huebel: That's what he is. He is born to do.
[00:24:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:24:32] Paul Scheer: So, but I guess, I mean, so Monkeybone is a monkey. That's the other thing I was having an issue with. It is his id. Okay, so, but it's a full monkey. Like he's hanging and swinging and wanting banana.
[00:24:41] Jason Mantzoukas: What you're saying and Yeah, because it's, it's, it's fuzzy because yes, it is his boner and yes, it is, it is all of the, the urges and all of the kind of animal instincts Right. Uh, are contained in it. But it is a physical boner at times, or it seems to be, but he also has distinct monkey like actions.
[00:24:59] Paul Scheer: He's literally hanging from things.
[00:25:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes, yes. He's swinging and hanging and go Woo hoo. At times. And so he's also doing straight monkey stuff.
[00:25:07] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:25:08] Rob Huebel: I would say he's doing Mr. Peepers stuff.
[00:25:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:25:11] Rob Huebel: We'll get to that.
[00:25:11] Paul Scheer: Well, well, well, Mr. We'll get to Mr. Mr. Peepers indeed.
[00:25:14] Jason Mantzoukas: I will say. And, and not for nothing. We can get to it now. Chris Kattan late in the movie, late in, I mean, comes in. Comes in and single handedly is electric. The physical comedy that he, the, the broken neck, all the broken neck stuff was killing me.
[00:25:39] Rob Huebel: Unbelievable. When he takes the yardstick Yes. Jams it down his back, the tape and then spins around.
[00:25:47] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:25:47] Rob Huebel: All that's in one.
[00:25:48] Jason Mantzoukas: All in one take. Next level.
[00:25:49] Rob Huebel: Unbelievable.
[00:25:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Really elevated the third act of this, which was absolutely nuts.
[00:25:55] Paul Scheer: Now, but I, well, I guess what, I guess what I'll say about it is we are led to believe that Stu is a boring nothing burger. But when he is in the body of Chris Kattan, I gotta say, he is very inventive, very outgoing and broad.
[00:26:10] Now equally like a Monkeybone.
[00:26:11] Jason Mantzoukas: Here's my question though. When he's in Chris Kattan's body, he's somehow still able to execute all of the gymnastics abilities that Chris Kattan's human the.
[00:26:24] Paul Scheer: Well, that was like, because it's like, so is he sharing a brain?
[00:26:27] Jason Mantzoukas: That's what I was wondering. And I was like, oh, I wish they'd explore this some more.
[00:26:30] Rob Huebel: Well, how did the gymnast die? The newspaper on the bus as the like tragic death of famous gymnast. But they don't explain, how does he die?
[00:26:41] Paul Scheer: And I want, I don't wanna be mean.
[00:26:42] Rob Huebel: Oh, he must have like broken his neck, right? Because.
[00:26:44] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, he breaks his neck, but we don't know.
[00:26:45] Rob Huebel: Well, that happens to every gymnast. They all break their necks.
[00:26:47] Paul Scheer: Yeah. I don't wanna be mean at all, but I will say this, even in 2001, if a gymnast died, it's not getting front page of any paper. They would have to have done something insane.
[00:26:59] Rob Huebel: You just pissed off a lot of gymnasts. You're gonna get so many emails.
[00:27:03] Jason Mantzoukas: We're gonna hear from the gymnasts in the, in the fan base.
[00:27:06] Paul Scheer: Because they, they, they also position him to be very famous, but yet he is taking public transport. I mean, people do notice him.
[00:27:14] Jason Mantzoukas: Mm-hmm.
[00:27:14] Paul Scheer: Around. Easy. I do have sec, I have issues with that second half, but I do, I do like it. There was a YouTube.
[00:27:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, you have issues? Oh, you have issues with some of the movie? Oh, wow.
[00:27:26] Paul Scheer: Just a couple things.
[00:27:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Some of the choices they made, they didn't work for you?
[00:27:30] Paul Scheer: Now, Whoopi Goldberg's in this.
[00:27:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah. Oh, the cast is, the cast is wall to wall, like next level talent.
[00:27:40] Rob Huebel: Explain to me how that happens. Who read this?
[00:27:46] Paul Scheer: Well, this is it.
[00:27:47] Rob Huebel: I love, I I have, we, I did a show with Megan Mulally. I love Megan Mulally is the funniest person on earth. So funny. It is a crime. It is a crime how underused she is and the.
[00:28:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah.
[00:28:01] Rob Huebel: Like they don't give her anything.
[00:28:03] Paul Scheer: Bob Odenkirk.
[00:28:04] Rob Huebel: Odenkirk also.
[00:28:05] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:28:05] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah.
[00:28:06] Paul Scheer: Uh, you have a, uh, everybody in this.
[00:28:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Thomas Hayden church is in this. Whoopi Goldberg, like Giancarlo Esposito, Rose McGowan. It is a murderer's row of people. All of the surgeons, Odenkirk and all that team is all people, you know, and it's all in service of nonsense.
[00:28:22] Rob Huebel: Yeah.
[00:28:23] Paul Scheer: I mean, and, and who, but I do feel like Meghan Mulally gets to be funny. The only person who does not get to be funny aggressively is Bridgette Fonda. I feel like I love Bridgette Fonda, and I watch her in this movie. I'm like, wow. They really like whatever they did. And it's like. I don't know what she is, in any way.
[00:28:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:28:41] Paul Scheer: Whatsoever.
[00:28:42] Rob Huebel: I think they sold her. They said, do you want to kiss Chris Kattan and Brendan Frazier? She was like, yeah, I'll do it.
[00:28:51] Paul Scheer: I felt like she was, I, I felt like Chris Kattan had to kind of force that kiss. He did hold her face, uh, she wasn't leaning in for it. Yeah. But Chris Kattan also has a moment where he is like, it's me. I called you by her name. I got my monkey here. He's wrecking everything. And she's like, okay, it's not him. I'm like, wait, what do you mean? He just gave you like 10 context clues that it is him.
[00:29:14] Jason Mantzoukas: So much crazy. And she's already had multiple experiences with Monkeybone as Stu that seem like it's not Stu.
[00:29:21] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:29:21] Jason Mantzoukas: So when a dead, when the reanimated corpse of a gymnast arrives with his head taped to a T square, you might be like, nah, hang on, I'm gonna li I'm gonna listen to this.
[00:29:37] Paul Scheer: Stranger things have happened.
[00:29:39] Jason Mantzoukas: I also fully expected, I couldn't figure out, I fully expected there to be a love story in the downtown between Stu and Rose McGowan's character. 'Cause I felt like they were trying to seed that somehow.
[00:29:51] Paul Scheer: But you can't because he's in love.
[00:29:53] Jason Mantzoukas: No, because we're meant to believe in true love between him and Julie.
[00:29:55] Paul Scheer: But he's been there for three months, so maybe it dies.
[00:29:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. And And does time work the same there? Who know? Who knows.
[00:30:01] Paul Scheer: I mean, he grew a full beard in the bed. I mean, that was a good looking beard.
[00:30:06] Jason Mantzoukas: I mean, you could do that in a couple days. A good sneeze will get that much beard out.
[00:30:12] Paul Scheer: My favorite moment was Megan Mulally appearing through the window of the hospital.
[00:30:17] Rob Huebel: She was smoking. Yeah, she was smoking out there in the patio. Yeah.
[00:30:20] Paul Scheer: But it is also just an, it felt to me like, she's like, I wanna do something interesting and funny and not be in this room. Cause that didn't feel like that should be an option for her to be. Smoking in and out like a patio leaning in through a hospital.
[00:30:34] Rob Huebel: You mean the hospital rooms don't have balconies?
[00:30:35] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:30:37] Jason Mantzoukas: What, when did, okay. Huh? What was the movie we did? Cool World?
[00:30:44] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:30:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Where? Where Brad Pitt enters Cartoon World?
[00:30:47] Paul Scheer: But that was his cartoon world. His, uh, well, no, Brad Pitt was the cop.
[00:30:52] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, one of the nerd tell us what's going on?
[00:30:54] Paul Scheer: Gabriel Burns cartoons. He goes in. Brad Pitt was the cop trying to bust him in his own cartoon world. Right.
[00:30:59] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay. Year was?
[00:30:59] Paul Scheer: So Gabriel Burns knows the worlds.
[00:31:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Year. What year was that roughly?
[00:31:02] Audience Member: 90, 94.
[00:31:03] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, okay. So that's fully, so, okay. Cause this was giving me that vibes wise.
[00:31:08] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:31:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Of like, oh, a, a person getting trapped in their cartoon.
[00:31:13] Paul Scheer: This is everybody, every executive's like. I don't know why Roger Rabbit worked, but I think we can do it too.
[00:31:20] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:31:21] Paul Scheer: And then you go, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he Oh yeah. Love it. Love it. And then he's a dick. Oh yeah. Love it. Love it.
[00:31:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, you know what's true about that is this movie, Monkeybone is as horny as Roger Rabbit is in Roger Rabbit. And maybe that is the direct connection they're trying to make is those other movies didn't work because the animated character wasn't fucking horny enough. So what if the, what if the character was a dick? Literally an engorged, a blood filled penis. But as a monkey.
[00:31:53] Rob Huebel: I have a question to, just to go back to Whoopi Goldberg for a second.
[00:31:55] Paul Scheer: God of death.
[00:31:56] Rob Huebel: Um, yes. The God of death. So, Whoopi Goldberg at one point is approving, uh, these other like grim reapers, you know those guys?
[00:32:04] Paul Scheer: Well, the, the white, the people in the white rope. Yeah. They are like, so Brendan Frazier should be in a white robe to be judged, right?
[00:32:13] Jason Mantzoukas: No, no. They, they are like, I think we broadly saying.
[00:32:16] Rob Huebel: Oh, they're Grim Reaper. Oh, they're crim Reaper. They, they go out. Yeah.
[00:32:19] Jason Mantzoukas: Remember they arrive to give the old man your, his exit check or whatever.
[00:32:23] Rob Huebel: So he was gonna, he was gonna dress up like that and then be able to. Okay, got it. Yeah. So then, so then they got busted, and then somehow her head exploded and there were a bunch of interchangeable heads.
[00:32:34] Jason Mantzoukas: Why do, why are there extra heads? Why are they thinking that somehow in the future, her head will get destroyed and we will need replicas that we can just install.
[00:32:46] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Well, you should read my prequel script that it's self, well, I mean, self-published, but Yeah, you should read it. It's good.
[00:32:52] Jason Mantzoukas: I would love to.
[00:32:53] Paul Scheer: But she, she's also not the devil. Like that's the other thing about this movie, she's not damning people. She's like, oh, your time on earth is over and that's it.
[00:33:02] Like she's seemingly benevolent. Right. I mean, like she's not.
[00:33:06] Rob Huebel: Yeah, I think she's death. She's sort of agnostic, right? She's like, your time is up and you're just down here now and these are the rules, basically.
[00:33:13] Paul Scheer: But yet there is this purgatory where nothing is happening before you get to, like, you don't do any trials or tribulations. You just wait until.
[00:33:22] Jason Mantzoukas: You just seem to have, you seem to be able to hang out in a space that seems kind of like where you might buy supplies in a video game.
[00:33:31] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:33:32] Jason Mantzoukas: You know what I mean? It's the kind of weird town you stumble on and Fall Out and you're like, oh, everybody here's kind of a reanimated corpse, and I guess this is where I buy ammo. Like that whole world. I was like, what? And what they failed to give us by only giving us downtown is we don't understand any kind of hell or heaven. We only know this, this middle ground, this netherworld.
[00:33:58] Paul Scheer: And but then also in the netherworld, Hypnos is there, who is the sleep god.
[00:34:04] Rob Huebel: Who's the brother of Whoopi Goldberg?
[00:34:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:34:07] Paul Scheer: Okay. Yeah. So sleep and death are closely related. I like that as an idea.
[00:34:12] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, sleep is kind of a, sleep is a bit of a death. Sleep is our nightly death.
[00:34:16] Paul Scheer: I like that.
[00:34:18] Jason Mantzoukas: An orgasm is a little death.
[00:34:21] Paul Scheer: Some Monkeybone. Wow. That all makes sense now.
[00:34:25] Rob Huebel: A poop is a birth.
[00:34:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Big or little, sometimes just watery.
[00:34:32] Paul Scheer: So then.
[00:34:37] Rob Huebel: I'd edit that out. I'd edit. I'll, I'll edit that out.
[00:34:39] Paul Scheer: Keep it all in. Keep it all in.
[00:34:44] Rob Huebel: I have another, um, quick question. Well.
[00:34:47] Paul Scheer: Well, yeah, go for it.
[00:34:48] Rob Huebel: I don't wanna jump around too much.
[00:34:49] Paul Scheer: You can, you can jump there.
[00:34:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Jump around.
[00:34:51] Paul Scheer: Well. Just jump up and get down. Jump, jump jump.
[00:34:56] Rob Huebel: The sex scene between them.
[00:34:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:34:59] Rob Huebel: We gotta talk about that.
[00:35:00] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:35:01] Rob Huebel: Um, first of all, I feel like Bridgette Fonda said, I'm not getting naked for this. You're not gonna see any.
[00:35:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Thank God.
[00:35:09] Rob Huebel: So, so much, so that she opened her robe and wrapped it it around her.
[00:35:13] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:35:14] Jason Mantzoukas: What a strange move that was.
[00:35:16] Rob Huebel: You're not gonna see side boob.
[00:35:18] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:35:18] Rob Huebel: You're not gonna see armful. You're not gonna see anything.
[00:35:22] Paul Scheer: I guarantee you that that wasn't even her body in the shower.
[00:35:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah.
[00:35:27] Paul Scheer: I think that was a body double.
[00:35:28] Jason Mantzoukas: When she wrapped the robe on. I was like, we are through the looking glass.
[00:35:32] Rob Huebel: That's the way my wife and I make love. Like that. Just don't look at each other.
[00:35:36] Paul Scheer: Get in my robe.
[00:35:36] Rob Huebel: Don't look at each other.
[00:35:39] Jason Mantzoukas: This is also, I feel like, although now you tell me it's 2001, and I'm now gonna go back on this because I feel like this was an era in which butts and butt stuff. Like in terms of like Ace Ventura's talking butt.
[00:35:52] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:35:53] Jason Mantzoukas: Or in this one when he's like, that's not how we shake on it in monkey land, we touch, we rub butts. There's a lot of like butt stuff.
[00:36:01] Paul Scheer: Is that? You studied monkeys. Is that true? They rub butts.
[00:36:03] Jason Mantzoukas: They do. Oh yeah. Yeah. And you can rub their butts all you want. Right.
[00:36:08] Paul Scheer: We have one out in the lobby after the show, if anyone's interested.
[00:36:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:36:11] Rob Huebel: But just to drill down on this sex scene for a second.
[00:36:14] Paul Scheer: Yes. No.
[00:36:15] Rob Huebel: Have no desire to see Brendan Frazier's body or his ass like shaking in my face and like I, it felt like.
[00:36:25] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, but you are not in love with him.
[00:36:26] Rob Huebel: That's true.
[00:36:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Doc Julie is. The sleep doctor.
[00:36:30] Rob Huebel: But he is about to teabag her on. There's one angle, there's one angle where you can tell Bridgette Fonda is like, I fucking hate my agent so much.
[00:36:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:36:42] Paul Scheer: Giving up acting.
[00:36:43] Rob Huebel: His ass is like right here. And you can't, that's not a fake thing. No. That's him with his taint and balls like right here.
[00:36:53] Jason Mantzoukas: I couldn't figure this out at all. Like, what did they, did they think this is hilarious? Was it in the script or was Brendan Fraser like, oh, you know, it would be funny if I started like bumping like like, like up and down her like I would like, it's like he's gonna teabag her or something in a way that I was like, she should dump him now.
[00:37:12] Paul Scheer: Well, that's it. I have a lot of issues with Doc Julie because Doc Julie, everything could have been justified. Like, you are still coming out of a coma. Just take it easy. She ne, she's like, he's back home the same day he comes out of a coma. He is eating cake with his hands and then he is teabagging her.
[00:37:28] Jason Mantzoukas: All of these feel like improvised moments. They eating the cake with their hands. Yeah. All that stuff.
[00:37:34] Rob Huebel: Where did they get the footage of the monkeys having graphic sex? That he's watching. They do that misdirect where you see her, uh, in the shower and you think he's looking at that and then they cut to his POV and it's, he's watching like, like doggy style sex, which I guess that is how like monkeys. Don't do a missionary.
[00:37:56] Jason Mantzoukas: I think they call it monkey style.
[00:37:57] Paul Scheer: Monkey style. That's the shirt.
[00:38:00] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:38:01] Rob Huebel: Wait, hold on. Did we come up with missionaries sex?
[00:38:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, because of the missionaries. Missionaries did.
[00:38:08] Paul Scheer: Yeah. They brought it around from land to land and now.
[00:38:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes, they take it from country to country. Introducing heathens to the good lord and the missionary position.
[00:38:18] Paul Scheer: Good bone. Yeah, bad to the bone. Uh, but there is a moment in here.
[00:38:22] Jason Mantzoukas: That's what the movie silence is about.
[00:38:24] Paul Scheer: But. But there's a moment here where I'm like, he is having a dream chasing women in bikinis, but he is watching monkey porn, but he's also attracted to flabby arm school teachers.
[00:38:45] Rob Huebel: Well, you're confusing Monkeybone. And his, uh, I think the thing on the golf course with, uh, when he runs into the sand trap on the golf course.
[00:38:54] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:38:54] Rob Huebel: Which also was a pretty cool stunt. I couldn't figure out like how they did that.
[00:38:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Practically. I agree.
[00:38:59] Rob Huebel: It goes down into.
[00:39:00] Jason Mantzoukas: It looked great.
[00:39:01] Rob Huebel: That looked pretty cool. Unless that was all.
[00:39:03] Jason Mantzoukas: My guess is the sand is, uh, a vi a visual effect.
[00:39:07] Rob Huebel: Oh, okay. Right.
[00:39:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. And he's just going down and, yeah. Yeah. I don't know though.
[00:39:10] Rob Huebel: Yeah.
[00:39:10] Paul Scheer: Yeah. But then my guess is it's all stop motion animation. Even Brendan Frazier.
[00:39:14] Rob Huebel: Are, that's that quick sequence where he's, uh, fantasizing about chasing the, the women in lingerie on the golf course are tho Is that, was that 2001 lingerie? That looked like 19?
[00:39:30] Paul Scheer: It was.
[00:39:30] Rob Huebel: Somebody said it was.
[00:39:31] Paul Scheer: Very positively.
[00:39:32] Jason Mantzoukas: It was. We have a lingerie expert.
[00:39:34] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah. Always have.
[00:39:36] Jason Mantzoukas: We travel with her every show she brings, she just in case we have a lingerie question, we have, we have Morgan, of course, our Dungeons and Dragons expert. We have our lingerie expert.
[00:39:47] Paul Scheer: And I'll say that she is just a 2001 lingerie expert.
[00:39:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:39:50] Paul Scheer: So you can't.
[00:39:51] Rob Huebel: Before or after 9/11?
[00:39:52] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:39:54] Rob Huebel: I'm sure it changed dramatically.
[00:39:56] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, after 9/11, everything, all the lingerie changed.
[00:40:01] Paul Scheer: But that like, so you're right. Like, so were you gonna say, is that his dream or the monkey's dream?
[00:40:07] Rob Huebel: Uh, I think that was, uh, his fantasy down in, uh, the underworld. I think.
[00:40:14] Paul Scheer: Well, because he, but then he's talking to Brendan Frazier, I believe as Monkeybone. 'Cause he goes In the day that's you. But down here you're with me.
[00:40:24] Rob Huebel: You're, you're monkey ass is mine.
[00:40:26] Paul Scheer: Right. So I think that, and so I think that Hypnos.
[00:40:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Wait, what?
[00:40:31] Rob Huebel: Hypnos the God of Sleeps is, is telling him like, uh, you're your monkey ass belongs to me. And, and we're running outta nightmares. We gotta go get some more nightmare juice.
[00:40:41] Jason Mantzoukas: But isn't Monkeybone Hypno's agent in the real, isn't this their plan that they can talk together?
[00:40:47] Paul Scheer: Well, that's what's he's saying to him. He is like, you aren't getting me enough bad dreams, asshole.
[00:40:52] Jason Mantzoukas: I see.
[00:40:52] Paul Scheer: Go put all the fart juice.
[00:40:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Now, I understand.
[00:40:55] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:40:55] Jason Mantzoukas: I see, I see, I see. Yes.
[00:40:56] Paul Scheer: Not fart juice.
[00:40:57] Rob Huebel: Fart juice?
[00:40:57] Jason Mantzoukas: Fart juice?
[00:40:59] Rob Huebel: That's a movie. You gotta, we gotta pitch that movie. Do not steal that idea.
[00:41:03] Paul Scheer: Fart Juice is gonna come out next summer.
[00:41:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Felt like that. I felt like that whole farting, um, toy thing.
[00:41:07] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:41:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Came in so late.
[00:41:09] Rob Huebel: Yeah.
[00:41:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. I was like, oh, give me the farting toy thing way earlier. Make that the plan.
[00:41:14] Paul Scheer: And why do the, why does he have to put a so much of it in the butts? But also it's like, it seems like that vial of nightmare juice is only gonna affect a handful of people.
[00:41:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah. Well, no, but I mean they're, they're giving it, the toys are gonna go to everyone. Oh, you mean just the.
[00:41:32] Paul Scheer: But I mean, its to say, alright, so they do a thousand people. Is that enough nightmares to fuel all of the underworld?
[00:41:38] Jason Mantzoukas: That's a, this is a great question and I'd love to spend the rest of the episode just drilling down on the, the metrics of how much nightmare juice per capita that can give enough nightmare return to fuel downtown's energy needs. Because this is a renewable resource.
[00:41:58] Paul Scheer: Here's all I'm saying.
[00:41:59] Jason Mantzoukas: We need to stop using fossil fuels and power our cars off of nightmares.
[00:42:05] Paul Scheer: I wanna see more of a Jack Nicholson Batman moment where he is like, oh, we got the new parade float, the Monkeybone Parade float, and he's gonna douse the whole city with nightmare juice. But it seems like you have to have a lot of nightmare juice, because then Dave Foley also a very funny person, uh, in this movie.
[00:42:23] Jason Mantzoukas: Back when actors could get away with purple face.
[00:42:25] Paul Scheer: Oh, man. Talk about a moment at the end. They'll go closer there. Yeah. Where he pop up. They, they, whoa.
[00:42:32] Rob Huebel: They they put a lot of pressure on that line too.
[00:42:36] Well, but, but I wanna drill down real quick on when he goes to the Sleep Institute to break in, to steal the nightmare juice.
[00:42:43] Paul Scheer: He does fuck that monkey.
[00:42:44] Rob Huebel: There's an orangutan.
[00:42:46] Paul Scheer: He does fuck that monkey.
[00:42:47] Rob Huebel: That's not a monkey. That's an Oranga tan. Ranu.
[00:42:50] Paul Scheer: Tan, tan, tan.
[00:42:51] Jason Mantzoukas: Tan.
[00:42:51] Paul Scheer: Tan,
[00:42:52] Rob Huebel: That's an orangutan in a cage. I don't know why he is in a cage. I guess he's part of the sleep study.
[00:42:56] Jason Mantzoukas: I guess yes. He's part of the nightmare.
[00:42:58] Rob Huebel: That, that he, Brendan Frazier kisses.
[00:43:00] Jason Mantzoukas: Yep.
[00:43:01] Paul Scheer: Yeah. But, or, or more.
[00:43:03] Rob Huebel: And then the orang.
[00:43:04] Jason Mantzoukas: For sure. They did more, for sure. They did more.
[00:43:06] Rob Huebel: Rips off his fucking pants.
[00:43:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. Yes. Because he, the, or the orangutan wanted to go farther. Because I think the orran, the orangutan, understands that there's a monkey in here the same way that the dog understands that's not him in there. Like I think all the animals know what's going on. So the orangutan is like. I'm gonna fuck you.
[00:43:27] Rob Huebel: Yeah, I feel like that was edited out. I feel like the monkey did. Sorry. The orangutan did fuck him.
[00:43:33] Paul Scheer: Yes, a hundred percent.
[00:43:34] Rob Huebel: In the prison cell, probably.
[00:43:36] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:43:36] Rob Huebel: For, you know, atmosphere. And then they edited that.
[00:43:40] Jason Mantzoukas: The prison cell in downtown?
[00:43:41] Rob Huebel: No, I'm just.
[00:43:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, oh, you mean in the, in the lab.
[00:43:44] Rob Huebel: Yeah, in, in the lab. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:43:45] Paul Scheer: So wait, and then, and when they're in the pri, when you just said prison downtown, and we remember Stephen King, so Stephen King, Jack the ripper, Lizzie Borden, they're all there.
[00:43:53] Rob Huebel: Atill of the Hun
[00:43:54] Paul Scheer: Atele the hun. So they're just, are they just being sucked for nightmares?
[00:43:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. Because he says, Stephen King says, isn't it that Cujo is inhabiting his body on Earth?
[00:44:04] Rob Huebel: Earth, yeah. Cujo took his exit pass.
[00:44:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. Cujo took his exit pass. So I guess.
[00:44:09] Paul Scheer: So Cujo is his Monkeybone?
[00:44:10] Jason Mantzoukas: So yes, I think Cujo is his Monkeybone, which means anything after 2000 and any Stephen King book after 2001 is written by a dog? I mean. What are we talking about?
[00:44:24] Rob Huebel: And Cujo is up there fucking people.
[00:44:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:44:28] Rob Huebel: With Cujo's dick.
[00:44:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Wait, did Cujo get hit by the van? Have people forgotten that Stephen King was hit by a van? Is this a story nobody remembers?
[00:44:39] Paul Scheer: Well, he was chasing after the van.
[00:44:42] Rob Huebel: Wait, refresh my memory.
[00:44:44] Paul Scheer: He, the Cujo was Stephen King was chasing after a van. Cause he, okay. Cujo dog. No, he was, um, Stephen King was walking on the side of the road and he got hit by a car. Uh, that happened. He al.
[00:44:58] Rob Huebel: Recently?
[00:45:00] Paul Scheer: No, a while ago.
[00:45:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, 20 years ago.
[00:45:02] Paul Scheer: My favorite story about Stephen King, and this came out recently is that he got addicted to Lou Pega's Mambo Number Five.
[00:45:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Addicted?
[00:45:09] Rob Huebel: What do you mean addicted?
[00:45:10] Paul Scheer: Addicted. He couldn't stop playing it. And his wife told him, if you play it one more time. I will divorce you.
[00:45:20] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh wow.
[00:45:21] Paul Scheer: Little bit Monica in my, yeah. And that. So.
[00:45:24] Rob Huebel: Do we have the rest of that?
[00:45:25] Jason Mantzoukas: And he is divorced.
[00:45:29] Paul Scheer: Wait, so then I guess my question is if, if Cujo is up here, then is Jack the rippers, like Monkeybone also up here?
[00:45:37] Jason Mantzoukas: And who is that? Who is Jack the Rippers?
[00:45:41] Paul Scheer: Oh. Oh, it's Rob.
[00:45:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Who is Lizzie? Who's Lizzie Borden's Monkeybone? The axe?
[00:45:45] Rob Huebel: Atilla of the Huns. We don't know.
[00:45:47] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, we don't know.
[00:45:47] Paul Scheer: So some Monkeybones can be violent, some monkeybones can be sexual.
[00:45:52] Jason Mantzoukas: I wish I knew the rules. The movie would've been, the movie is so close to enjoyable in, in a lot of ways if simply the rules had been made more clear. So I understood what the entire fuck was going on. Because without that, I kept being like, I kept rewinding to be like, yeah, did I miss important plot points?
[00:46:12] Paul Scheer: Same.
[00:46:13] Rob Huebel: I, I think this movie is for kids that take mushrooms. I really do. I really do. So all kids, yeah,
[00:46:22] Paul Scheer: I, I will say this. Henry Selleck, I fell in love with Dark Town comic book. This is the source material. 'cause this is a book that Henry Selleck really wanted to adapt. And he wrote to the author, he said, I never felt any project that was closer to my sensibilities than this one.
[00:46:35] And his initial intention was to stay true to the material. But as the project developed. It evolved into Monkeybone. That's the quote.
[00:46:46] Rob Huebel: When was he fired in the process? Like was he.
[00:46:49] Paul Scheer: Seemingly late. We're gonna get some more details.
[00:46:52] Rob Huebel: Okay.
[00:46:52] Paul Scheer: About this in a little bit.
[00:46:54] Rob Huebel: Well, 'cause I, 'cause I had a question. Um, there's, there's a sequence, um, where the bassett hound dog that they share, or I forgot his name, but, um, Stu takes the purple sludge and gives it to the Bassett hound and puts him to sleep.
[00:47:10] Paul Scheer: And what kind of nightmare could he have?
[00:47:12] Rob Huebel: And then they cut to the dog's dream.
[00:47:14] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:47:15] Rob Huebel: And it's so fucked up. 'cause the dog has huge balls and he's laying prone and they pull back and there's a giant scissors. Like he's having this nightmare.
[00:47:27] Paul Scheer: 'Cause that's, dogs get snipped.
[00:47:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:47:30] Rob Huebel: They had to shoot that?
[00:47:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:47:33] Rob Huebel: They had to anesthetize a Bassett hound with huge.
[00:47:38] Jason Mantzoukas: Let's be clear, that bassett Hound for sure died during this production. That is absolutely clear.
[00:47:46] Paul Scheer: Let me go out to the crowd because I think that there, there might be some people out here who have some questions. They, we may have some answers.
[00:47:52] Alright. Hi. What's your name? What's your question?
[00:47:54] Audience Member: Emily. Um, so I know you guys like to talk to people who are kind of experts in certain areas. I've been in a coma.
[00:48:01] Paul Scheer: Oh.
[00:48:03] Rob Huebel: Congratulations.
[00:48:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Emily has.
[00:48:06] Paul Scheer: Emily, who did you meet in your coma?
[00:48:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Are you in it right now? Are we, are we all characters in your coma dream?
[00:48:16] Paul Scheer: Is this her Monkeybone or is this Emily?
[00:48:19] Alright, so, uh, so what would you like to share?
[00:48:22] Audience Member: I just wanna say that, um, Jason, this is a Jacobs Ladder scenario because at a certain point when Brendan Frazier wakes up from the coma or Monkeybone, his breathing tube pops out. That breathing tube would be connected to a ventilator. So there was no ventilator breathing for him. If there was and the tube came out.
[00:48:47] Paul Scheer: Could they have unplugged the ventilator?
[00:48:49] Rob Huebel: Well, they didn't unplug it. They snipped it.
[00:48:51] Audience Member: So, so it has to be removed by a medical professional because if, if you wake up and it's in your body, you're trying to breathe and it's trying to breathe for you, you would die in seconds.
[00:49:03] Paul Scheer: So really, we really having that react? Yeah. Okay. Sure.
[00:49:09] Rob Huebel: Well, can we hear a little bit more about your coma? If it's funny, if it's funny.
[00:49:14] Paul Scheer: Keep it light. Keep it light.
[00:49:15] Rob Huebel: Don't, don't bum us out.
[00:49:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Just out of curiosity, how long?
[00:49:21] Audience Member: Um, a few weeks.
[00:49:22] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay.
[00:49:23] Paul Scheer: And did you go in any, was there any rollercoaster imagery? Any Joe Camel imagery?
[00:49:28] Audience Member: There was a lot of imagery for sure. Um, I can't, as someone who's never had a boner, I can't. I.
[00:49:37] Paul Scheer: It's okay. It's okay.
[00:49:41] Audience Member: I cannot confirm whether or not I would've had a Monkeybone. I did not. No.
[00:49:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:49:47] Paul Scheer: Alright. I like it. Thank you so much for your incredible expertise.
[00:49:51] Rob Huebel: Incredible.
[00:49:52] Paul Scheer: Three weeks. Three weeks.
[00:49:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow. That was that. See, that's a great one, New York.
[00:49:59] Paul Scheer: One of the best.
[00:50:00] Rob Huebel: What a great. What a great vacation.
[00:50:03] Jason Mantzoukas: Welcome back.
[00:50:05] Paul Scheer: Well, she didn't just get out of the coma.
[00:50:07] Jason Mantzoukas: I don't know. I assumed, like, assumed. I assumed. You woke up to come to the show, said your brain knew you had tickets.
[00:50:16] Paul Scheer: She said at 5:00 PM she got outta the coma. Uh, yeah. Yeah. Hi. Hi.
[00:50:19] What's your name?
[00:50:20] Audience Member: Jen.
[00:50:20] Paul Scheer: Jen, what's your question?
[00:50:21] Audience Member: So you've shown some alternate clips of, there's different cuts. Do you think there's a, in that alternate version, there's a more nefarious version of Julie where she kind of tricks Stu into like a Stockholm syndrome version of the relationship because she very clearly has no problem manipulating his subconscious. Okay. Because.
[00:50:47] Jason Mantzoukas: Do you mean manipulating him with the nightmare juice? When he's in the, when he's in the coma?
[00:50:51] Paul Scheer: So you think she's an unethical doctor and that like.
[00:50:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Are you reporting her? Are you trying to get her license stripped?
[00:50:59] Paul Scheer: This whole thing has been just to get this on, it's on tape.
[00:51:02] Jason Mantzoukas: I'll say, all the doctors in this movie behave irresponsibly.
[00:51:07] Audience Member: It was very unethical. And I have a master's in marriage and family counseling, so like I have to like be like, oh, that's very unethical how you're behaving like the.
[00:51:15] Rob Huebel: You don't have to do it here.
[00:51:16] Jason Mantzoukas: Now here's my question. Here's my question for you. My question for you is, if you were faced with the imminent death of your partner or behaving unethically in order to save them, what would you choose?
[00:51:29] Paul Scheer: She just looked at her partner.
[00:51:32] Jason Mantzoukas: She just looked at her partner and said, bye-bye.
[00:51:37] Audience Member: Well, like I'm not his doctor.
[00:51:40] Jason Mantzoukas: She isn't either.
[00:51:42] Audience Member: She was, she was his sleep doctor.
[00:51:44] Jason Mantzoukas: Only sleep doctor.
[00:51:45] Paul Scheer: Does that count?
[00:51:46] Rob Huebel: A sleep study.
[00:51:48] Paul Scheer: A sleep study. It feels like she was getting college credit for that. I don't know.
[00:51:51] Rob Huebel: She didn't, she didn't even have the authority to stop Megan Mulally.
[00:51:56] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:51:56] Rob Huebel: From pulling the plug.
[00:51:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Pulling the plug on someone who has so much active brain going on that to pull the plug is murder. Like, I mean.
[00:52:07] Paul Scheer: I think Paul's going up in the.
[00:52:09] Jason Mantzoukas: When was Terry? When was Terry s Shiva? Was that before this?
[00:52:12] Rob Huebel: Jason.
[00:52:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Hang on.
[00:52:13] Paul Scheer: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
[00:52:14] Jason Mantzoukas: Hang on.
[00:52:14] Rob Huebel: Jason.
[00:52:15] Paul Scheer: Walked out the door for one second.
[00:52:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. No. Here's what's happening.
[00:52:19] Paul Scheer: I'm walking in Jason's ranting about Terry Shivo.
[00:52:22] Jason Mantzoukas: I am not going to hear you guys ham and haw over me mentioning Terry Shivo when you barely reacted to multiple 9/11 jokes. You guys gotta decide. What are your levels? The balcony gets it. They're assholes. It's all the Richie riches over here that are clutching their pearls. Terry Chivo. That's a home run reference. Assholes.
[00:52:57] Paul Scheer: What's your, what do you got? Oh, she's dressed as Rose McGowan.
[00:53:00] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, nice.
[00:53:01] Audience Member: Hi. Uh, fantastic movie, but also, whoa.
[00:53:06] Um, hi, my name is Saja. My friends here are huge fans of your podcast, so thank you so much. And, um.
[00:53:12] Paul Scheer: But not you, not you.
[00:53:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Not you. She's, now that's interesting. You're wearing a costume, costume.
[00:53:18] Audience Member: The question, why do they hate doctors so much on this show?
[00:53:22] Paul Scheer: Why do we hate doctors so much on this show? I feel like I've just struck out twice with questions here. I apologize to.
[00:53:30] Jason Mantzoukas: Um. The, the, I will say as Paul makes his way up into the balcony, get ready. Um, some of the, that the third act, which is the Kattan stuff, is inclusive of some of the funniest shit was the, the surgeons in full surgical gear.
[00:53:50] Rob Huebel: Great.
[00:53:51] Jason Mantzoukas: Run chasing, chasing the reanimated corpse through the hospital into the parking lot. They load into a suburban, they do a car chase. Kattan's organs are falling from the sky onto a barbecue, onto.
[00:54:08] Rob Huebel: The kid plays football with it.
[00:54:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Kids, kids are playing football with a lung. Paul's in the, in the.
[00:54:15] Paul Scheer: I'm in the balcony.
[00:54:16] Jason Mantzoukas: In the balcony.
[00:54:17] Paul Scheer: That's the kind of reception. Welcome. Yes. Balcony monsters.
[00:54:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah.
[00:54:23] Paul Scheer: Yes, yes, yes. Alright, I'll come to the person I'm closest to right now. Okay. What's your name? What's your question?
[00:54:31] Audience Member: Hi, Ashley. So, uh, I did a little bit of research. Apparently Ben Stiller was originally signed on to play the main character.
[00:54:38] Paul Scheer: That's what we heard.
[00:54:39] Audience Member: Ultimately, Chris Kattan, Brendan Fraser were a great combination of people.
[00:54:43] Uh, would Chris Kattan, had Ben Stiller have been that great or would they have gone for a different actor to play the person Ben Stiller jumped into as.
[00:54:51] Jason Mantzoukas: My guess is Ben.
[00:54:52] Paul Scheer: The voice.
[00:54:53] Jason Mantzoukas: Wait, what?
[00:54:54] Paul Scheer: Ben Stiller is gonna be John Tuturro.
[00:54:56] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, I thought he was gonna be Brendan Fraser.
[00:54:59] Rob Huebel: Are you sure? Are you sure?
[00:55:00] Paul Scheer: I, from what? I, we're gonna get some more.
[00:55:02] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm here. Wait.
[00:55:03] Paul Scheer: Let's, let's, let's answer this question. It's good question.
[00:55:06] Rob Huebel: But I believe it.
[00:55:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Hold on. Hold on one second. Paul. There's somebody right there.
[00:55:08] Audience Member: Is she supposed to be Ben Stiller?
[00:55:10] Jason Mantzoukas: What was, what was supposed to be Ben Stiller?
[00:55:12] Audience Member: Ben Stiller was supposed to have character.
[00:55:16] Jason Mantzoukas: No.
[00:55:19] Paul Scheer: I heard someone say Ben Stiller is supposed to play, uh, Brendan Frazier's character. And then I heard, no, I saw that you have notes. I wanna see what your notes. All right. So what do you got? Oh, do no, I won't. Yeah, I don't need to read them.
[00:55:32] Rob Huebel: Was anybody here? Was anybody here else in a coma?
[00:55:35] Audience Member: Yes.
[00:55:36] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:55:36] Rob Huebel: What?
[00:55:38] Paul Scheer: Hold on, hold on.
[00:55:42] Rob Huebel: From now on only, only people in comas.
[00:55:45] Jason Mantzoukas: By the way. Paul. Paul. There's another coma over here.
[00:55:48] Paul Scheer: Oh. And I was right by her.
[00:55:50] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm so sorry. We're only talking to coma people tonight.
[00:55:54] Rob Huebel: You have to currently be in a coma.
[00:55:58] Paul Scheer: Alright. What? Hi.
[00:55:59] Audience Member: Hi, Paul. Um, I was in a coma. I'm not trying to, it's not a competition, but it was exactly four weeks.
[00:56:05] Jason Mantzoukas: How? How many?
[00:56:07] Audience Member: Four weeks.
[00:56:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow. Four weeks.
[00:56:08] Rob Huebel: Well, he's better.
[00:56:08] Paul Scheer: Is it true? What they say?
[00:56:09] Rob Huebel: He's better than you.
[00:56:10] Paul Scheer: After three months it goes downhill.
[00:56:12] Audience Member: As, no. So I was, I was, it was four weeks. Uh, I was having this, uh, like DMT dream where like I was in an MC Esher house. You'd like open a door and then you'd look, you'd be looking, instead of looking like this, you'd be looking down at like, people on a couch playing video games. Oh wow. And you'd go in another room. But it was this real crazy maze. And the end of that was, I, I was running away 'cause I thought they were trying to, to, uh, cut my dick off.
[00:56:39] Paul Scheer: Wow.
[00:56:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Monkeybone.
[00:56:42] Paul Scheer: Monkeybone.
[00:56:43] Jason Mantzoukas: That's a fucking Monkeybone.
[00:56:44] Audience Member: It's a real thing. Like it's in Richard Hammond's, um, uh, autobiography after he had his like, uh, racing accident. Uh, and it's a real thing. And I'm pretty sure I was having that when they were trying to put the catheter in and I was trying to like protect myself.
[00:57:00] Paul Scheer: That's what the dog was also doing. The dog was worried about.
[00:57:04] Audience Member: The one other thing I wanted to say is that, um, I grew up next door to Liz Livingston, who is the creator of Drop Dead, Fred.
[00:57:11] Paul Scheer: Oh, whoa.
[00:57:14] Audience Member: Carrie. In the original script, Carrie Fisher's character was named after my mother, but the studio thought that Martha was a lame, like old lady name. So Carlos changed it to, uh, Janie, which was the girl he was dating at the time. But if you hear when Fred hits her, uh, when he hits her papers down and she's like in her office, her boss yells Miss Charu.
[00:57:37] Paul Scheer: That's you mom. Wow.
[00:57:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow. Wait a minute. Wait, what? I have one. Incredible. Incredible.
[00:57:44] Paul Scheer: Well, now we gotta ask you.
[00:57:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Incredible. I have a question.
[00:57:47] Audience Member: Team Fred.
[00:57:48] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:57:49] Audience Member: Is Team sanity.
[00:57:51] Paul Scheer: Yes!
[00:57:52] Jason Mantzoukas: No!
[00:57:52] Paul Scheer: That's it. Team Fred. They're the same thing.
[00:57:55] Audience Member: It's an, it's a short story. There's a, a, a woman my age who's an amazing artist. Her name is Liz Livingston. When her sister was born, all of these mischievous things start happening. And when her mom confronted her, she said, it wasn't me, it was Dead Fred. So her mother, who's a writer and used to edit for Reader's Digest, wrote a short story about this evil character, and it's called Drop Dead Fred.
[00:58:22] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[00:58:22] Audience Member: Her friend Carlos Davies said, this is brilliant. Wrote the script. They made the movie. There was gonna be a second one. And, uh, it just, the whole thing petered out because the person they got to play, Fred wanted to rewrite the script.
[00:58:37] Jason Mantzoukas: Can I ask a question? If we had not asked, who else was in a coma?
[00:58:41] Paul Scheer: I know. Yeah, you would.
[00:58:42] Jason Mantzoukas: We would have heard none of this.
[00:58:44] Paul Scheer: That's what I'm like living in that.
[00:58:46] Jason Mantzoukas: This is essential information. Do you wanna come sit down here? We need more people like you down here.
[00:58:54] Rob Huebel: More coma.
[00:58:55] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm gonna come back to you.
[00:58:55] Rob Huebel: One more coma person.
[00:58:57] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm gonna come back to the person I was. But now you're up against the wall because that person really delivered.
[00:59:02] Rob Huebel: You're coma better.
[00:59:03] Jason Mantzoukas: You better have been in a coma for five or more weeks.
[00:59:07] Paul Scheer: Now, you stood up with a coma. You were in a coma?
[00:59:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Please.
[00:59:09] Paul Scheer: We'll put her in a coma. Alright, go.
[00:59:11] Jason Mantzoukas: Please don't stand so close to the edge.
[00:59:12] Paul Scheer: I'm, yeah.
[00:59:12] Jason Mantzoukas: Please don't stand so close to the edge.
[00:59:14] Audience Member: Okay. Uh, we've, oh, sorry. My name's Jess. Long Island Trash. Um, we, we spent a lot of time talking about medical malpractice, but I feel like we really missed the fact that there was organ trafficking happening.
[00:59:28] Rob Huebel: Yes.
[00:59:28] Audience Member: Um, because they're talking about money and you cannot sell organs in the United States. And they were really invested.
[00:59:35] Paul Scheer: They were like, this will get my Mercedes. Yeah.
[00:59:38] Audience Member: Yeah. So I feel like the real enemy was capitalism.
[00:59:41] Paul Scheer: And and that's why we hate doctors.
[00:59:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes, yes. That's why we hate doctors. Unethical doctors.
[00:59:53] Paul Scheer: I do. I mentioned that we have another special guest here tonight.
[00:59:58] Rob Huebel: Is it naked Dave Foley?
[01:00:00] Paul Scheer: No, he is running around outside.
[01:00:02] Rob Huebel: We didn't talk about Dave Foley's naked body.
[01:00:06] Paul Scheer: You wanna talk about it?
[01:00:07] Rob Huebel: What?
[01:00:08] Paul Scheer: You wanna talk about it? He had very cute bottom.
[01:00:10] Rob Huebel: I'm surprised that he did that.
[01:00:16] Paul Scheer: Well, there is one person here, one person here who knows a lot about this movie, is a fan of this movie. You might know him from roles and uh, such, uh, TV shows as a Tick, but also as the co-host of the Blank Check podcast. Griffin Newman is here. Where is he though? Where he's down. He's already downstairs.
[01:00:38] There he is. Alright, perfect.
[01:00:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, where is he?
[01:00:39] Paul Scheer: Oh, there he is.
[01:00:39] Jason Mantzoukas: So here we go.
[01:00:40] Paul Scheer: Take my chair.
[01:00:41] Griffin Newman: I got three things to say right off the bat.
[01:00:44] Jason Mantzoukas: Give it up for Griffin Newman.
[01:00:49] Griffin Newman: I brought my two copies of Monkeybone, DVD and Blu-Ray.
[01:00:55] Rob Huebel: Wow.
[01:00:55] Griffin Newman: Because I need the high def picture quality, but this doesn't have special features.
[01:00:59] Jason Mantzoukas: Holy shit.
[01:01:01] Griffin Newman: And as we saw tonight.
[01:01:02] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[01:01:03] Griffin Newman: The only way to see the deleted scenes from Monkeybone reliably is to have the disc.
[01:01:08] Jason Mantzoukas: This is like, this is chilling, that you have hard media, physical media. Two of Monkeybone is like very uncomfortable for me.
[01:01:20] Griffin Newman: We, we recorded a three and a half hour podcast with you guys today.
[01:01:24] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[01:01:25] Griffin Newman: You, you guys went, oh, you like Monkeybone? Do you want to come on at the end and do a defense?
[01:01:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[01:01:30] Griffin Newman: I said yes. I ran home. I picked up the two copies. I came straight here.
[01:01:33] Jason Mantzoukas: I, by the way, thank you. Thank you for coming.
[01:01:36] Paul Scheer: So this is a movie that you. That was a, a sav to you as a child. Like this made it good.
[01:01:43] Griffin Newman: It made things make sense.
[01:01:46] Jason Mantzoukas: And what, what are those things when you say it made things make sense? Like what? Like puberty?
[01:01:53] Griffin Newman: I get it. This is a comedy show and you got all just gave it a spin this morning. You gave it one watch. Right? Right. And you're, you're sort of visitors, you're tourists to the world of monkey.
[01:02:03] Rob Huebel: We're tourists.
[01:02:04] Griffin Newman: You're tourists. Right. And so, I don't mean to just fact check, but there are a couple things you got wrong that I wanna just quickly correct.
[01:02:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, please.
[01:02:09] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[01:02:10] Rob Huebel: Also, yeah crucial question. Have you been in a coma?
[01:02:14] Griffin Newman: I have not.
[01:02:14] Rob Huebel: Okay.
[01:02:15] Jason Mantzoukas: There is. We did you seem like there is one more coma guy over there that we didn't get to. There's, we didn't forget about you.
[01:02:20] Rob Huebel: Don't call him coma guys.
[01:02:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Coma guys.
[01:02:23] Paul Scheer: Coma man. Coma man.
[01:02:25] Rob Huebel: Comies.
[01:02:26] Griffin Newman: James's. James.
[01:02:28] Jason Mantzoukas: James Comey.
[01:02:29] Paul Scheer: They'll have their day in court.
[01:02:30] Jason Mantzoukas: You're indicted.
[01:02:32] Griffin Newman: Uh, just quick little speed round fact-checking.
[01:02:34] Paul Scheer: Yes. Great.
[01:02:35] Griffin Newman: Uh, number one, Monkeybone is good.
[01:02:37] Paul Scheer: Okay.
[01:02:38] Griffin Newman: Number two, Monkeybone is normal.
[01:02:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay.
[01:02:42] Griffin Newman: Number three, Monkeybone makes sense. I feel like that's pretty.
[01:02:44] Paul Scheer: Wow.
[01:02:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Are you saying the movie or Monkeybone the character?
[01:02:49] Griffin Newman: Both.
[01:02:49] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[01:02:50] Paul Scheer: Wow.
[01:02:50] Griffin Newman: All three statements apply in both directions. There are a lot of misread here.
[01:02:53] Paul Scheer: No, no. I wanna, I want you to yeah. Hit us with like, I wanna get to the answer of the Ben Stiller thing. Was Ben Stiller supposed to be Brendan Fraser?
[01:03:00] Griffin Newman: Ben Stiller was supposed to be Brendan Fraser.
[01:03:01] Paul Scheer: Okay.
[01:03:02] Griffin Newman: He dropped out pretty late.
[01:03:04] Paul Scheer: Okay.
[01:03:04] Griffin Newman: He makes more sense as an angry Gen X cartoonist, I would argue.
[01:03:07] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[01:03:08] Griffin Newman: Yeah. Uh.
[01:03:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Here's what I'll say to the guy that said, no, earlier. You're a fucking moron. Get outta here.
[01:03:18] Griffin Newman: Uh, it was absolutely Ben Stiller. Okay. And, uh, Fraser didn't want to get pigeonholed into Post Mummy Action Hero, and he was like, I wanna be loose. I don't wanna be taken seriously. Pushed hard for this role. Paul Rubins was supposed to be the voice of Monkeybone.
[01:03:32] Paul Scheer: Whoa.
[01:03:35] Jason Mantzoukas: Awesome.
[01:03:35] Griffin Newman: A man who knows something about boners in places they shouldn't be.
[01:03:38] Rob Huebel: Edit that out, edit that out.
[01:03:40] Griffin Newman: And may his memory be a blessing. Uh, I think the studio, uh, would not approve of that.
[01:03:47] Paul Scheer: Okay.
[01:03:47] Griffin Newman: But he, but I believe he did do sessions.
[01:03:50] Paul Scheer: Wow.
[01:03:51] Griffin Newman: And was replaced.
[01:03:52] Jason Mantzoukas: Stiller and, and Paul Rubins from Mystery Men, which had already come out by then.
[01:03:57] Paul Scheer: No. This was the movie that. He did Mystery Men Instead of this.
[01:04:00] Jason Mantzoukas: Correct. I'm sorry.
[01:04:01] Griffin Newman: This was mostly shot in 99 and sat on a shelf.
[01:04:05] Rob Huebel: Is that before or after 9/11?
[01:04:07] Griffin Newman: Good amount before. And this is also a thought experiment I've been working on, I've been trying really hard to drill into the cannon of movies to me that feel distinctly post Y 2K but pre 9/11.
[01:04:17] Paul Scheer: Okay.
[01:04:17] Griffin Newman: And obviously a lot of these movies were shot, you know, in 1999, right? Or you know there are movies that were shot before 9/11 that came out afterwards, but there are movies that came out within that window that feel timelock to this feeling of we just live past the apocalypse, we made it and now nothing can stop us. There is a hubris to the mania.
[01:04:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[01:04:41] Griffin Newman: And some of these films extend into sequels that go past the 9/11 point, but you feel them kind of taking on, we gotta like scale it down. Like Shrek one.
[01:04:50] Paul Scheer: Right.
[01:04:50] Griffin Newman: Is a post Y 2K, pre 9/11 film. Shrek two is firmly post 9/11. It's considering the weight of what it has to represent.
[01:05:00] Yes. Shrek one didn't have to represent shit.
[01:05:02] Jason Mantzoukas: Sure, sure.
[01:05:03] Griffin Newman: We were invincible. Monkeybone is prime somehow shot in 1999, but like a time capsule. If we survive, if we make it past Y 2K, if the clocks don't kill us.
[01:05:18] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[01:05:18] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[01:05:18] Griffin Newman: This is what the future needs. We're leaving this for the next generation.
[01:05:22] Rob Huebel: Can can you explain to me?
[01:05:24] Griffin Newman: Yeah.
[01:05:29] Rob Huebel: Can you explain to me?
[01:05:32] Paul Scheer: It's one, one of them a foreign, uh, Monkeybone?
[01:05:34] Griffin Newman: Yeah. Australian Blu-ray. American DVD.
[01:05:36] Paul Scheer: Okay.
[01:05:37] Jason Mantzoukas: I don't like foreign Blu-rays. Let me see that Blu-Rays papers.
[01:05:42] Griffin Newman: Take it up with the Fox Corporation who's refused to put this out in HD in the States.
[01:05:47] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, I wonder why. It's almost like they thought it wouldn't make money.
[01:05:52] Rob Huebel: Now, a couple quick questions.
[01:05:53] Griffin Newman: Yeah.
[01:05:53] Rob Huebel: Why At the museum fundraiser?
[01:05:56] Griffin Newman: Mm-hmm.
[01:05:56] Rob Huebel: When that giant paper mache head.
[01:05:59] Griffin Newman: Yep.
[01:06:00] Rob Huebel: Gets hit, or like a pinata gets ripped open. And all the monkey toys fall out. Why do all of the rich people at the fundraiser lose their fucking mind?
[01:06:11] Griffin Newman: Because Monkeybone. What do you mean?
[01:06:14] Paul Scheer: But is Monkeybone on the air? Because what happened was that was the pilot. It was, he went to a coma for three months.
[01:06:20] Audience Member: The movie is a comment on crass commercialization as the smart attendee.
[01:06:27] Paul Scheer: Okay.
[01:06:27] Audience Member: Up there said, capitalism is the real evil of this film.
[01:06:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[01:06:31] Audience Member: Okay. Stu Miley is a pure Gen X artist. He is a riff. He is a third beat in the Matt Greoning Matt Stone. Trey Parker. Yeah. Here. Outra. Kind of fucking pissing on the outside. Gen X. Fuck you guys. Who accidentally created these things. That like captured the public right the unprocessed like child fucking mania that then became mainstream. And in both cases you got this like, oh, think of the children.
[01:07:00] This is ruining them. George HW Bush is like, fuck that. Samsungs are bad. You know all that shit, right?
[01:07:06] Jason Mantzoukas: No characters.
[01:07:07] Griffin Newman: I'm sorry.
[01:07:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Don't you dare.
[01:07:09] Paul Scheer: And what do you think this is? Tbs?
[01:07:11] Griffin Newman: I'm sorry.
[01:07:11] Jason Mantzoukas: This is not an SNL audition. Don't you dare.
[01:07:14] Paul Scheer: Characters not welcome here.
[01:07:18] Jason Mantzoukas: Unless it's Rizzoli and or isles.
[01:07:20] Griffin Newman: Okay, well. So it's cart before the horse, right?
[01:07:24] Paul Scheer: Right.
[01:07:24] Griffin Newman: Here's a guy who is fucking tortured. He meets the love of his life, right? In like a psychiatric hospital, right? This guy is like, not processing his trauma through art, he is re urg the trauma.
[01:07:36] Jason Mantzoukas: Into childhood boner?
[01:07:38] Griffin Newman: Well, no. This is where she redirects him, as she said, he was in art therapy and the art therapy was putting his trauma back on the page in a way that frightened him and only fed back into the cycle. And she said, we gotta find some way to break this guy. Change to your less dominant hand and what comes out his repressed sexual awakening as a child in a puritanical society.
[01:07:56] Paul Scheer: I love this.
[01:07:56] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay. I like this.
[01:07:57] Griffin Newman: Part of him that was most pushed down. He was comfortable with the inherent darkness in his brain. What he wasn't comfortable with.
[01:08:03] Paul Scheer: I love this.
[01:08:03] Griffin Newman: Was who he actually is. His primal urges.
[01:08:06] Paul Scheer: Well, I actually do love what you're saying and I feel like that feels to me very much like Henry Sellek is this artist, right?
[01:08:13] Griffin Newman: Yes.
[01:08:13] Paul Scheer: And he has this, and he's connected to his piece of work.
[01:08:15] Griffin Newman: And he made this thing that became very commercial, right?
[01:08:17] Paul Scheer: Right.
[01:08:17] Griffin Newman: Like, here's this guy, he does this dark, tortured art. He's fallen in love with his sleep study doctor. She's like, switch hands. He draws a boner. She's like, this is funny. You should do it as a comic.
[01:08:26] He does it as a comic people fucking option the rights and are like, we're giving you 80 episodes on Fox. Right? The the, the train is moving so fucking fast. We have the dolls already. He's like, wait, slow down. What is any of the, I don't know if this is good, right? I dunno if this is good for the public.
[01:08:42] And they're just like, we're trying to identify the next fad. That's the panic he's in. And the five minutes before he gets coma'd.
[01:08:49] Paul Scheer: So basically like his trauma is coming out and before he can like, he's like, you're commercializing my trauma. And you're, and he's just trying to actually get better to go to be able to.
[01:09:00] Jason Mantzoukas: Here's what I.
[01:09:01] Griffin Newman: He has unprocessed psyche at the very least.
[01:09:02] Paul Scheer: Wow. An enthusiastic yes.
[01:09:04] Griffin Newman: Right. That's why Julie loves him. But it's also why I think she rides out the time with Monkeybone inhabited Stu for so long. 'cause she's like, I've seen him go through weird shit. Do I like this guy? No, but like, he's had cycles of like, loss of identity. It came out of a fucking coma.
[01:09:19] I don't dunno. Maybe we'll shake this off.
[01:09:22] Rob Huebel: Do you think, do you think 9-year-old boys get this?
[01:09:26] Jason Mantzoukas: This 9-year-old boy does.
[01:09:27] Griffin Newman: I was, I was 12 and I could not have gotten it more. I was like, this is what I've been asking my health teachers to explain to me every week.
[01:09:36] Jason Mantzoukas: Those poor teachers.
[01:09:38] Paul Scheer: Big Mouth before, Big Mouth.
[01:09:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Did Griffin talk to you today? Oh, he had a lot of questions. What'd you do? I gave him a copy of Monkeybone. He'll be buying copies of that for the rest of his life.
[01:09:48] Paul Scheer: Now, I guess. The issue, the joke, I couldn't quite put my, I couldn't like put my hands around was.
[01:09:56] Jason Mantzoukas: Wait a minute.
[01:09:58] Paul Scheer: Are they?
[01:09:59] Jason Mantzoukas: That's a joke. I couldn't quite get my hands around?
[01:10:01] Paul Scheer: When Whoopi Goldberg makes a South Park joke.
[01:10:04] Griffin Newman: Yeah.
[01:10:04] Paul Scheer: Is that a joke that South Park is bad? Or is that a joke? 'cause it's like.
[01:10:09] Griffin Newman: No, it says it's coming out of the same place.
[01:10:11] Paul Scheer: Right.
[01:10:12] Griffin Newman: And that she likes them and presumably she has had a similar experience with them. So this whole question, does everyone have a Monkeybone? What is downtown? Right? Downtown is the collective subconscious.
[01:10:22] Paul Scheer: Okay.
[01:10:22] Griffin Newman: The Collective unconscious.
[01:10:22] Jason Mantzoukas: And Carl Young, Carl Young's collective unconscious?
[01:10:26] Paul Scheer: Wow. I love this.
[01:10:27] Griffin Newman: And so it is largely populated with these pop culture figures, right? Yeah. Like Joe Camel because they exist like they now like fucking occupy.
[01:10:34] Paul Scheer: Right.
[01:10:34] Griffin Newman: They live rent free in our heads, but also just abstract nightmarish concepts. Like a barbecue pig who serves pig. Right?
[01:10:40] Paul Scheer: Right.
[01:10:40] Griffin Newman: Just fucked up shit.
[01:10:43] Jason Mantzoukas: I love it.
[01:10:43] Griffin Newman: But also our mascots, our modern gods. Isn't Ganesh down there, right?
[01:10:47] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[01:10:47] Griffin Newman: You know what I'm saying? It's all a soup.
[01:10:49] Paul Scheer: So we're just seeing like everything.
[01:10:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Our mascots, our modern gods?
[01:10:52] Griffin Newman: That's what Monkeybone is saying.
[01:10:54] Paul Scheer: It's saying like the earworms of our culture.
[01:10:57] Griffin Newman: In a dead culture.
[01:10:57] Jason Mantzoukas: Don't get, don't.
[01:10:59] Paul Scheer: I'm in now I'm on board.
[01:11:00] Griffin Newman: In a dead culture circling the drain. And this is why Hypno is like business is bad. People aren't using their fucking brains. They're thinking of Joe Camel because they're looking at billboards, right?
[01:11:12] Paul Scheer: Right.
[01:11:13] Griffin Newman: I have to take artists, get 'em down here. Artists who are able to create a subconscious or unconscious that is so fully vividly realized that it could become its own thing, right?
[01:11:25] So like Stephen King gets hit by the van, goes into the coma, ends up down there, that's when Cujo swaps.
[01:11:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Ah, okay, that makes sense.
[01:11:35] Paul Scheer: Wow.
[01:11:35] Jason Mantzoukas: That makes sense.
[01:11:36] Griffin Newman: Atila the Hun. Jack the Ripper. These were creative guys who didn't have an outlet yet.
[01:11:41] Jason Mantzoukas: These are out of the box thinkers. Atila the Hun.
[01:11:45] Griffin Newman: They didn't have an outlet. They were just a little bit une and they're trying to draw on, they're like, ah, my hands aren't that good. They fall into a coma, there's a little murderer in there and it's like, let me have a stab at the above ground. And they go up there and they do a bunch of bad shit. That's what Monkeybone is.
[01:12:00] Paul Scheer: So you're saying Jack the Ripper was a good creative doctor who Monkeybone was a murderer and the Monkeybone murdered people, not Jack the Ripper.
[01:12:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Is Monkeybone a trickster God?
[01:12:12] Griffin Newman: Yes.
[01:12:15] Paul Scheer: Wow. We've all gone through something.
[01:12:16] Jason Mantzoukas: The audience just went, Ahhhh.
[01:12:19] Griffin Newman: A trickster God of Stu Miley's creation.
[01:12:22] Jason Mantzoukas: Smiley.
[01:12:23] Griffin Newman: Yes.
[01:12:23] Rob Huebel: Is, is it possible to have sex with Christine the car?
[01:12:30] Griffin Newman: Great question. Yes.
[01:12:32] Rob Huebel: Thank you. Thank you.
[01:12:33] Paul Scheer: Well, you have, you have recontextualized this film for me in a way that I feel like there is a plot here.
[01:12:42] Griffin Newman: Yeah.
[01:12:43] Paul Scheer: That is, I think, hidden by Christopher Columbus.
[01:12:46] Griffin Newman: Yes. Yes.
[01:12:46] Jason Mantzoukas: I will say one of the things that I wrote a number of times, and I said some version of it earlier, which is there were a number of times in the movie where I was like, oh, this is almost good right now. This is starting to be a good movie and I hope, I wish it could hold onto it.
[01:13:00] Griffin Newman: Yeah.
[01:13:00] Jason Mantzoukas: But it would always crumble under the weight of strange choices that didn't seem to add up and without any exposition, which they are loathed to give.
[01:13:10] Griffin Newman: Mm-hmm.
[01:13:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Not understanding the framework in which I am operating. I kept getting lost. But your, the version of the movie you are giving us is more like a Drop Dead Fred, in which I'm a hundred percent on board.
[01:13:24] Griffin Newman: Yeah.
[01:13:24] Jason Mantzoukas: I wish.
[01:13:25] Griffin Newman: Bless you.
[01:13:25] Paul Scheer: No, thank you.
[01:13:25] Jason Mantzoukas: I wish that the bless you that the, that the movie had successfully done.
[01:13:30] Griffin Newman: I agree.
[01:13:30] Paul Scheer: What I'm realizing is Christopher Columbus is the bad guy.
[01:13:34] Griffin Newman: He is.
[01:13:34] Paul Scheer: Like he is. Fucking poisoning the culture. He didn't get it at all.
[01:13:39] Griffin Newman: Here's another crazy thing.
[01:13:40] Rob Huebel: And he didn't discover America.
[01:13:42] Griffin Newman: He did not. And he doesn't deserve a parade.
[01:13:48] Paul Scheer: Plymouth Rock landed on him.
[01:13:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Wait, what?
[01:13:55] Paul Scheer: You get it. I'm King Kong motherfucker.
[01:13:59] Jason Mantzoukas: Do you think, do you think Christopher Columbus sailed over on the Mayflower, the Nina, the Pinta, the Santa Maria and the Mayflower?
[01:14:09] Paul Scheer: You got it.
[01:14:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Straight to Plymouth Rock?
[01:14:11] Paul Scheer: You got it.
[01:14:12] Jason Mantzoukas: Looking for the Fountain of youth?
[01:14:13] Griffin Newman: He cooked the first turkey on the first Thanksgiving. Um, a another crazy thing I must call out in terms of like, uh, art imitating life.
[01:14:22] Jason Mantzoukas: Stop pointing at us so much, Griffin.
[01:14:25] Griffin Newman: I'm offering, I'm offering.
[01:14:26] Rob Huebel: I kinda like it. I like being yelled at.
[01:14:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[01:14:30] Audience Member: Darktown, the comic book that Henry Selleck spark to and optioned only ever had that one single issue.
[01:14:36] Paul Scheer: One issue.
[01:14:37] Audience Member: It was an intended miniseries that was never completed. Much like Monkeybone, where you're like, corporate interests are jumping on a piece of IP that's not even completed as an idea. And going like, let's just start putting stuff on top.
[01:14:51] Jason Mantzoukas: So it's not like it was a Ninja Turtles, like a successful.
[01:14:55] Paul Scheer: One of 12. It was a one of 12.
[01:14:57] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[01:14:57] Audience Member: And only the first issue was ever released. And it's very different. And it's just in the idea of artist goes into coma, enters a a, a collective unconscious.
[01:15:09] Paul Scheer: Sure.
[01:15:09] Audience Member: Where his own creations exist.
[01:15:11] Paul Scheer: I love it.
[01:15:11] Audience Member: That's all that the comic gave.
[01:15:12] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay.
[01:15:13] Griffin Newman: Yeah.
[01:15:13] Paul Scheer: Give it up for Griffin, man.
[01:15:15] Jason Mantzoukas: Griffin Newman. You can listen to the Blank Check podcast. Their episode on Monkeybone is available now.
[01:15:22] Paul Scheer: Could not have been better.
[01:15:23] Jason Mantzoukas: As well as all the other Henry Selleck movies. Check out the George Lucas talk show when you can. Brand new DVD. Listen for Paul and I on an upcoming episode of Blank Check.
[01:15:39] Rob Huebel: So, so between us.
[01:15:41] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[01:15:48] Rob Huebel: We're gonna, we're gonna edit all that out, right?
[01:15:53] Jason Mantzoukas: He's making us look bad.
[01:15:55] Paul Scheer: We have, um, obviously opinion about this. There's a lot of people like Griffin who have a different opinion. It is now time for Second Opinions. Ladies and gentlemen,
[01:16:08] Rob from Long Island!
[01:16:15] Music: Settle down. I'll tell you the plot. Stu is a cartoonist in a coma and then he's not.
[01:16:29] The monkey had sex with his wife, Chris Kattan came back to life,
[01:16:35] A cameo by Harry Knowles. I gave five stars to Monkeybone.
[01:16:50] Stephen King is not in this flick. The opening scenes a cartoon about a little kid's dick.
[01:17:03] The casting was great, after all. It stars two actors from Breaking Bat and Better Call Saul.
[01:17:11] I gave five stars to Monkeybone. This is my second opinion.
[01:17:19] Paul Scheer: Give it up. Rob from Island!
[01:17:22] You killed it.
[01:17:22] Jason Mantzoukas: Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob.
[01:17:25] Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob.
[01:17:27] Paul Scheer: You did great. Alright. Now we also have another special guest here tonight, another song, uh, writer from the show. Ladies and gentlemen, Tom McWaters!
[01:17:40] Music: It can sing, give dirty looks, and when it's hard it breaks through books and when it's hard, it really cooks. It's Brendan's boner.
[01:17:50] Watch it run and watch it grow. Jacob's boner scenario. He even gives himself a blow. It's Brendan's boner.
[01:17:59] During Brendan's coma, the monkey runs amok. If the monkey was the boner, how can he still fuck?
[01:18:07] Always weird. Always wrong. Got five stars on Amazon because it's so gargantuan. It's Brendan's boner.
[01:18:18] Paul Scheer: Give it up for Tom McWaters
[01:18:20] Tom and Rob together on the same stage.
[01:18:23] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[01:18:25] Paul Scheer: Love it.
[01:18:26] Jason Mantzoukas: I had a super quick question. Is there anybody here in a coma now? Why did you raise your hand?
[01:18:35] Paul Scheer: Well, I, the person up there said, I'll put her in a coma.
[01:18:38] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[01:18:38] Paul Scheer: Um, alright.
[01:18:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Can I ask you, before we do it, a guy over there who was in a coma, how many, how long were you in a coma for?
[01:18:45] Audience Member: Uh, five weeks.
[01:18:47] Rob Huebel: No way. No way. She said three.
[01:18:51] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm not buying it.
[01:18:52] Rob Huebel: He said four.
[01:18:53] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm not buying it.
[01:18:53] Rob Huebel: You can't just say things.
[01:18:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Was it really?
[01:18:56] Audience Member: I have to, I have to add that it wasn't a natural coma.
[01:19:00] Jason Mantzoukas: It was medically induced.
[01:19:01] Audience Member: Medically induced.
[01:19:02] Jason Mantzoukas: Cool. We've all been in that.
[01:19:06] Paul Scheer: They're naturals. Um.
[01:19:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Wait, very naturals or big naturals?
[01:19:11] Paul Scheer: They said, no, not big naturals.
[01:19:12] Rob Huebel: Big naturals?
[01:19:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Big naturals? Is that what you said? Heavy naturals.
[01:19:17] Paul Scheer: Real naturals.
[01:19:19] Jason Mantzoukas: Real naturals. Well, that's kind of redundant.
[01:19:21] Rob Huebel: Keep this in, keep this in.
[01:19:23] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, this is, this is the only thing in.
[01:19:25] Paul Scheer: 1,923 reviews for Monkeybone, 84%.
[01:19:31] Jason Mantzoukas: 1,925 reviews.
[01:19:35] Paul Scheer: 84% are five star reviews.
[01:19:39] Rob Huebel: 84?
[01:19:41] Paul Scheer: 84%. Sidney K writes,
[01:19:46] "My all time favorite movie, just like Beetlejuice, but better. Five Stars."
[01:19:53] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, that's an interesting comparison too. Yeah. That we didn't even even mention.
[01:19:56] Paul Scheer: Yeah, for sure. Written in 2015. This one from Veronica Owen.
[01:20:02] Rob Huebel: Was 2015 before 9/11?
[01:20:04] Paul Scheer: Just right before it. Um, and the title is The Kobayashi Report.
[01:20:09] "This is the one movie I love. It is probably among the top 50 in my list, five stars."
[01:20:24] This is the one movie I love. It is probably among the top 50 in my list.
[01:20:35] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[01:20:37] Paul Scheer: It's a tough, tough bracket to break into.
[01:20:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[01:20:41] Paul Scheer: Um. Okay, this one is from KM Mackenzie. Um,
[01:20:47] "I love Monkeybone. I watched this movie as a kid and I recently saw it on Prime. I ran so fast to rent this movie, severely underrated Tim Burton comedy horror film from the early two thousands. If you're a fan of Tim Burton, please watch this movie now. You won't be disappointed. Five Stars."
[01:21:09] Jason Mantzoukas: This is the exact shit that Henry Selleck is driven crazy by.
[01:21:13] Rob Huebel: Yes.
[01:21:14] Jason Mantzoukas: Right?
[01:21:14] Paul Scheer: Absolutely. It was Tim Burton presents a Henry Selleck film, but people think it's Tim Burton.
[01:21:19] Rob Huebel: And coraline, right? Everybody thinks Tim, Tim Burton did Coralline too.
[01:21:22] Paul Scheer: So yes. So this person didn't get the memo. Um, also not a Tim Burton film at all. Yeah. At all. Here's what I wanna say. I just got a text. We have a very special person here to weigh in on Monkeybone.
[01:21:37] June Diane Raphael: You guys don't know what Monkeybone is about? D Doy, first of all, Doy, um, Monkeybone is a beautiful film. I have no, I've never seen it, but I know exactly what what it's about.
[01:21:49] And um, yeah, Brendan Frazier and Bridge Fonda are two archeologists, um, who are looking for a specific breed of monkey that hasn't been alive for many, many years, was extinct a long time ago. That monkey is, uh, going to hold the key to a virus that's been killing all of us, all of humanity in this present moment.
[01:22:16] So, so the two of them have to go find that Monkeybone in order to unlock the cure to this very terrible virus. That's like really taking us all out. Within that, within that, you know, they find love. They find love. You know, and, and Brendan Frazier, of course, is he's kind of that hot shot shooting from the hip type archeologist that we all know, that stock character and, you know, doesn't play by the rules.
[01:22:50] And Bridget Fonda is a leader in the field and always, you know, she's had many, many breakthroughs and she knows exactly where to go and how to do, uh, everything so perfectly and, and, and scrape off little sand pieces and dig and do all of her archeology stuff. And it's so hard to work with him, so hard to work with him, which of course she learns about herself is it's time to loosen up a little bit.
[01:23:19] And what he learns about himself is it's, it's it's time to actually respect a woman for the first time ever, which is never done. Uh, so it's a really, it's, it's, it's beautiful. They save us, thank God, thank God in that search for a Monkeybone, they also find what they didn't know they were looking for, which is love.
[01:23:43] Paul Scheer: And there you go.
[01:23:45] Jason Mantzoukas: I would love at some point in the future to make June watch Monkeybone and have a rebuttal to herself. Uh, and, and, and by the way, just announced a, um, the Mummy four or the Mummy, right?
[01:24:01] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[01:24:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Is that what it is? Three or four? I can't remember.
[01:24:02] Paul Scheer: Uh, yeah. Would you recommend the movie Jason?
[01:24:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Uh, yeah. Yeah. I would recommend this movie. This is, this is like, this is a real fever dream. Yeah, this is, this is chaos unlimited. Um, and I enjoyed the hell out of it, even though it was deeply frustrating because so often as it was just getting cooking, it would go way off the rails. And that would be disappointing. But don't let that deter you. Absolutely watch Monkeybone.
[01:24:29] Paul Scheer: Huebel?
[01:24:29] Rob Huebel: I would recommend this movie to
[01:24:31] Jason Mantzoukas: People in a coma?
[01:24:33] Rob Huebel: People in a coma, and kids that love drugs.
[01:24:38] Paul Scheer: Okay.
[01:24:38] Rob Huebel: Yeah.
[01:24:39] Paul Scheer: I would recommend this movie because we've watched so many and whenever I am like gobsmacked by a film, I feel. I don't know if I like it, love it or whatever, but I have to acknowledge I was gobsmacked by it. So I'm putting it in a category of a must watch.
[01:24:52] Jason Mantzoukas: I find that for me, like the movies, what we do, like I was engaged.
[01:24:58] Paul Scheer: Sure.
[01:24:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Whether I was enjoying it or furious.
[01:25:00] Paul Scheer: Right.
[01:25:00] Jason Mantzoukas: I was never bored.
[01:25:02] Paul Scheer: No.
[01:25:02] Jason Mantzoukas: I wasn't like, this is a slog. I was like, what the fuck? And if that's the response, then I think, I think it's working.
[01:25:10] Paul Scheer: I agree. I agree.
[01:25:11] Alright. Well.
[01:25:12] Rob Huebel: I could have watched more of them dangling from the balloon. Like that whole, yeah. I wanted more of that.
[01:25:19] Jason Mantzoukas: Agree.
[01:25:19] Rob Huebel: And if that happens in the Thanksgiving Day parade this year, I will be psyched. I'll be totally psyched.
[01:25:25] Jason Mantzoukas: I would love it if the Thanksgiving, the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade floats farted out nightmare juice.
[01:25:32] Paul Scheer: Love that. I would love. I would love it.
[01:25:35] Jason Mantzoukas: It does feel like for the last year, plus, we've all been just subsisting on nightmare juice.
[01:25:43] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[01:25:43] Jason Mantzoukas: And that is, that's my question is when did Monkeybone become our reality?
[01:25:50] Paul Scheer: Alright, Jason, you wanna promote anything?
[01:25:53] Jason Mantzoukas: Sure. I'll promote some stuff. Um, uh, Percy Jackson, season two coming.
[01:25:58] Paul Scheer: Yep.
[01:25:59] Jason Mantzoukas: Soon. Uh, A Man on the Inside Season two.
[01:26:02] Paul Scheer: Yep.
[01:26:02] Jason Mantzoukas: Uh, coming soon I'll be in that. Starts, uh, November 20th. It all, uh, unloads. And then I'm still gonna be promoting Taskmaster Season 19. Watch it on YouTube. That's right. Every episode is up for free. Check it out.
[01:26:19] Paul Scheer: So good. So, so good.
[01:26:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Season 20. Airing now is fantastic. Is it as good as 19? Absolutely not.
[01:26:30] Paul Scheer: Huebel?
[01:26:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, and All Out on Broadway here in, uh, January.
[01:26:34] Rob Huebel: What are you doing on Broadway? The, um, I'm doing a stage reading of Simon Rich Stories called All Out from, uh, January to February here in On Broadway.
[01:26:44] Paul Scheer: Broadway.
[01:26:46] Rob Huebel: Uh, I'll plug a show that Paul Scheer and I do on YouTube called The Dark Web.
[01:26:50] Paul Scheer: Dark Web.
[01:26:51] Rob Huebel: We do that every week. Super fun.
[01:26:54] Paul Scheer: Totally free.
[01:26:54] Rob Huebel: Totally free.
[01:26:55] Paul Scheer: Uh, my book, Joyful Recollections of Trauma is available. Thank you for buying it. If you bought it, you can, let's do it as an audio book, and if you want a sign copy, uh, just you can go on my website and I, and I'll, I'll figure it out. Uh, it sounds vague, but it's very specific and I don't need to get more into it.
[01:27:10] Um, thank you all for coming out tonight.
[01:27:14] Jason Mantzoukas: Great job New York.
[01:27:16] Paul Scheer: You are amazing.
[01:27:17] Rob Huebel: Goodnight. Thanks for coming.
[01:27:18] Jason Mantzoukas: Eat shit. New York.
[01:27:20] Paul Scheer: That's a wrap on Monkeybone. Wow, what a awesome episode. A big thank you to Rob Huebel who stepped in at the last minute when June's flight got canceled. Remember that when the FAA went on strike?
[01:27:32] Well, yep. Uh, Rob stepped in and did a huge, huge solid, do him a solid by checking out The Dark Web every week on YouTube. It's completely for free. Also, a shout out to Griffin Newman, who also stepped in, stepped up and delivered maybe one of the best voices for Monkeybone, he is a defender of Monkeybone.
[01:27:52] If they're making a Monkeybone criterion, we gotta give it to Griff. Now Griff, he is the star, the host, the co-host, I should say, of the Blank Check podcast. Check out Blank Check. If you've not listened to Blank Check, you will love it. I also want to kind of promote this thing that I did. I made a mini documentary with the people, uh, from Supper Club who do Chef's Table.
[01:28:12] We went out to a Taylor Swift parking lot. That's right. I went out with a microphone. I didn't know what I was gonna get. And let me tell you, it was so much fun. It was really, uh, it. Something I could never have expected. So check out Taylor Swift Parking Lot. You can watch that on my YouTube page. You can also watch it on The Dark Web YouTube. It's 15 minutes. I'm not asking you to watch it on big tv. You can watch it on your phone. I think you'll like it. You don't have to be a Taylor Swift fan. You just have to be somebody who's ever gone to a concert or maybe have an interest in going to a concert. I don't know. Also a big shout out to the staff at Town Hall and our tour manager, Beth and McKayla.
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[01:29:57] If you wanna see us in real life in Los Angeles, Dinosaur Improv will be back at Largo on January 24th. Come out and see us Largo's so much fun. We got a great crew coming up on this January 24 show, I believe Rory Scoville sitting in, but don't quote me on that. Anyway. And lastly, but not leastly, uh, a giant huge thanks to our behind the scenes team.
[01:30:17] I'm talking about our producer, Scott Sonne Molly Reynolds, our engineer, Casey Holford, and our social media manager, Zoe Applebaum, as well as our intern Quinn Jennings. And we'll forever be thankful to the one and only Avaryl Halley. That's all I got people. Bye for now.