It's finally happening! What? No! Paul, Jason, & June break down M. Night Shyamalan's 2008 thriller The Happening—a movie where the trees are out to get us and Mark Wahlberg & Zooey Deschanel run away from wind. LIVE from Largo in LA, they discuss the talking plant scene, Marky Mark's mood ring, an A+ Jeremy Strong performance, Johnny Legs' bad parenting, and so much more. Plus, June takes a hard stance on people who go out to eat for dessert only. DISCLAIMER: Despite what you hear in this episode, this is NOT a cheese podcast.
It's finally happening! What? No! Paul, Jason, & June break down M. Night Shyamalan's 2008 thriller The Happening—a movie where the trees are out to get us and Mark Wahlberg & Zooey Deschanel run away from wind. LIVE from Largo in LA, they discuss the talking plant scene, Marky Mark's mood ring, an A+ Jeremy Strong performance, Johnny Legs' bad parenting, and so much more. Plus, June takes a hard stance on people who go out to eat for dessert only. DISCLAIMER: Despite what you hear in this episode, this is NOT a cheese podcast.
Paul Scheer [00:00:00] Hello, people of Earth. I wanted to give you a little bit of a warning before you listen to today's episode, because the plot of this episode's film, The Happening, revolves around people dying by suicide. And as such, that topic does come up frequently throughout the episode. So if that's triggering for you, I wanted to give you an opportunity to stop and go listen to something else. Maybe a Matinee Monday, maybe, whole different podcast, you know? Unspooled got some really fun episodes lately. Anyway, this is your trigger warning. And if you are one of those people who's mad that you're getting a trigger warning, then do I have to do a trigger warning for you about trigger warnings? Anyway, I hope you listen. I hope you enjoy. And if you don't, I get that too.
Paul Scheer [00:00:46] What? No. We saw The Happening, so you know what that means!
Music [00:00:54] [Intro Song]
Paul Scheer [00:01:46] Hello, people of Los Angeles! And hello people of Largo! We are live here in Los Angeles for a movie that defies expectations. M nights, The Happening. What is it about if you've not seen it? It's a movie where wind and trees team up as the most powerful enemy on the planet, but only attack a very small section like the northeastern seaboard. They're just, not Ohio. We won't go to Ohio, but we'll just kind of stay in this area. Yes. So it is a movie where, the trees are out to get us, our heroes outrun wind, and. And what better hero than Mark Wahlberg? Mark Wahlberg stars. He's married to Zooey Deschanel. And everybody they meet up with eventually, has a gruesome death. That's all you really need to know. Oh, and this other fact, nothing makes sense. Every choice is flawed. The hero is not a hero. But besides that, the movie is perfect. Now, don't break down this film tonight. Please welcome my cohost, Mr. Jason Mantzoukas!
Jason Mantzoukas [00:03:26] What's up, jerks?! That's right, Largo. Let's go. Let's go. This movie stopped playing. Boy, did I not like this. This movie stopped playing. I was like, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. I don't think so. I think there's at least got to be 30 more minutes to this.
Paul Scheer [00:03:44] You wanted more? You wanted more?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:03:46] I didn't want more. But this movie, this seemed to me to have the Snowman problem. Like, I believe that they maybe didn't shoot 15% of the script because that they. And in which everything gets explained. Because this was what if a zombie movie. But you're right. The zombies are just the wind.
Paul Scheer [00:04:08] Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:04:09] And what if all of the exposition dumps are just conjecture from a high school science teacher played by Mark Wahlberg? I'm sorry. I need my kid out of that class immediately. I need my kid to have a new teacher. Immediately. My fictitious child.
Paul Scheer [00:04:29] I think the movie is so pleased with itself that they're like, they set up this thing. Oh, why are the bees dying? We don't know. And then the movie goes, what if that was our explanation, too?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:04:44] Well, and and we never get we never get an actual explanation.
Paul Scheer [00:04:48] No.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:04:49] Every time he has, he has an exposition dump. A new person joins. He's like, you know what, I don't know. It could be. What about. I remember, I read this article about this guy doing this thing, and who knows, it could be that I don't know. To the two teenagers he's with.(June Storms on Stage)
Paul Scheer [00:05:08] Oh, wait, wait a second. Wait a second, Ladies and Gentlemen, Mrs. June Diane Raphael! Welcome, June.
June Diane Raphael [00:05:15] I had to say something.
Paul Scheer [00:05:18] I knew we were getting too deep, I knew it.
June Diane Raphael [00:05:20] Yeah. You were taking way too long. I have so much to say about.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:05:28] I also have nothing to say as well.
June Diane Raphael [00:05:30] Very little. The wildest part to me is that the actual. Oh, Paul.
Paul Scheer [00:05:37] It's an audio podcast. No one sees this. No one sees me picking up my Tilamook cheese.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:05:43] What are you. What is that? Do you have a bunch of scratcher tickets?
Paul Scheer [00:05:49] Tonight, his audience will be walking home with Tillamook! Cheese products.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:05:55] What? No.
Paul Scheer [00:05:59] We got these.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:01] What do you mean we got these?
Paul Scheer [00:06:01] And they sent these to How Did This Get Made.
June Diane Raphael [00:06:06] Jason and I never even knew they arrived.
Paul Scheer [00:06:09] You want one?
June Diane Raphael [00:06:10] Yeah, I do. I do love this cheese.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:13] What?
Paul Scheer [00:06:14] I like it, too.
June Diane Raphael [00:06:14] This is good cheese.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:16] What? No.
June Diane Raphael [00:06:17] But, yeah, it's great cheese. The sharp cheddar.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:21] We're not a cheese podcast.
June Diane Raphael [00:06:23] This sharp.
Paul Scheer [00:06:25] I'm glad we're not a cheese podcast because they also have great ice cream.
June Diane Raphael [00:06:28] I was not.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:31] This is a non dairy podcast.
June Diane Raphael [00:06:35] I, I wasn't paid to say that but it is. It's a great company.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:39] What?
June Diane Raphael [00:06:40] The cheese is great. The cheese is great. Let me just say this though, the craziest thing is that Mark Wahlberg, our hero, is not even the person who figures it out. A random man who has a greenhouse figures the entire thing out.
Paul Scheer [00:06:59] I also don't like that.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:07:01] Is that the actual?
June Diane Raphael [00:07:02] Well, no. The real. Yes. He figures that it's the plants and the trees. It's the plants that are killing us. And they're releasing a toxin because they're, they're they have figured out how to kind of weaponize and attack.
Paul Scheer [00:07:16] Plants strike back.
June Diane Raphael [00:07:18] And what we find out at the very end, at the tail end from the Carnegie Mellon professor.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:07:25] Oh, it's a prelude. It's a prelude!
June Diane Raphael [00:07:28] Is that this is this is the environment's way of attacking us.
Paul Scheer [00:07:35] No no. No. No, this no, it's not climate change. It is an act of violence perpetrated like, this is not like, oh, the plants are reacting. They make it seem like the plants are fucking mad. Like the plants have like authority.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:07:52] Sentience.
Paul Scheer [00:07:52] Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:07:52] And the plants and plants are like, kill yourself. Like if you get too close to the wind, the wind is like, whooosh "Kill yourself".
June Diane Raphael [00:08:03] I did think that that was advanced for the plants.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:08:07] Not kill someone else. Just yourself.
June Diane Raphael [00:08:10] Any way you can.
Paul Scheer [00:08:11] What I don't like about this movie in general is.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:08:15] Everything?
Paul Scheer [00:08:16] Yes. And that it happens in so many different ways. If it was just like, oh, these plants are giving off, some sort of toxin, I buy it. But the way it starts and the way it kind of continues, it's like people are killing themselves in weird. Some people are just like, straight up murder suiciding themselves, right? Other people are just, you know, jumping off a building, but, like, it seems to be like some people really go creative, like, like I'm like, wow. Like. So you got.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:08:46] Let's be bonest. If this movie was real, a real depiction of what this happened, the minute this started happening, it would just be every 10s a gunshot.
Paul Scheer [00:08:54] Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:08:54] In this country, just gunshot. Gunshot gunshot, gunshot. That's it.
Paul Scheer [00:09:00] Well, they have that section in there, which is the most unnerving section, like bang, bang. And then and that banging is going on and they try to explain the dumbest premise of the movie. Oh, it's attacking big groups, but it won't attack small groups.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:09:16] Or how about this?
Paul Scheer [00:09:17] Why? You're in a fucking open air field.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:09:22] I don't even think that? Is that even true? That's what I don't think so. That's conjecture again from Mark Wahlberg.
June Diane Raphael [00:09:29] Like I.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:09:30] I don't trust a goddamn thing he said.
June Diane Raphael [00:09:33] I think that was true for a time before the plant started mutating. I don't know, I don't know.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:09:40] We never know.
June Diane Raphael [00:09:41] The craziest thing. The craziest sequence is right there when those gunshots are happening. And then Zooey Deschanel for reasons I would not understand, is like, we can't be innocent bystanders.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:09:50] Yes.
June Diane Raphael [00:09:50] We can't just be we can't just walk.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:09:53] We can't just be one of those people that walk. Stand by us. Of course you are. Run.
June Diane Raphael [00:09:59] Get out of here.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:10:00] You should be running.
June Diane Raphael [00:10:01] You have a child to protect who's lost both of her parents in the last five minutes. Get out of there!
Jason Mantzoukas [00:10:09] Every shot, every character looks like this. And this is them. I believe looking at this script off screen.
June Diane Raphael [00:10:21] This sequence, though, in this very sequence, they're running away from the plants. And the grass is this high, the grass is this high and it's waving toward them. Yeah. And they're racing away from it.
[00:10:34] Wind. They're racing from wind. Or they're racing away from grass. They're running. Is grass part of this? I don't know.
June Diane Raphael [00:10:42] This question I so you're saying the wind was carrying the toxins.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:10:47] Yeah. The wind was carrying the spores or whatever from the trees. That was I guess.
June Diane Raphael [00:10:52] I couldn't tell, I know, and I couldn't tell if it was the wind carrying the toxins from other cities or if it if that grass now had the toxins in it. And so.
Paul Scheer [00:11:04] I kind of feel like it's Covid, right? The trees cough and then it goes out in the air and then you get it like so it's like if you were in front of somebody who has Covid and they cough, then ope, you might have a shot of getting it. And that's kind of what this movie.
June Diane Raphael [00:11:20] Paul, why didn't a single person in this movie ever just go like this?
Paul Scheer [00:11:24] They never cover up! Never at the end of the movie, at the end of the movie, the fucking scientist Mark Wahlberg is like, I'm coming to get you. We just. You were separated for two minutes. He's like, nope, I'm just going to walk out in the field.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:11:39] Why would they do that?
Paul Scheer [00:11:40] Why? No reason. They know it's airborne.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:11:43] I think. I don't know, or maybe not.
Paul Scheer [00:11:47] Can I just, like. I want to go like, yes, all this doesn't make sense. But really, what really doesn't make sense to me is the opening line, two women on a park bench and the the first woman says as she's reading a book, "I forgot where I was." And then the other woman who's reading another book says, "Oh, you're at the part where the people kill each other." She's like, "Oh, okay. Thanks." What? Yeah, even for this movie, I wouldn't know where she was. She is reading a book.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:12:21] That woman, that woman then pulls what looks to me like a knitting needle. Needle out of her hair that she's using as a hair tie, and stabs herself in the jugular. The movie is full and her friend is just like. Oh the movie the movie seems to be. I feel like they shot scenes without some of the actors there, so they didn't know what they were reacting to.
Paul Scheer [00:12:47] Well, and that opening.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:12:48] A lot of times something insane will happen. Someone would be like.
Paul Scheer [00:12:52] The opening, the opening scene, the. The opening scene again with these two women on the park bench who oddly, are the only two not affected while everyone else is. Why? We don't know.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:13:07] We never find out the rules of the thing.
Paul Scheer [00:13:10] So they go. She goes, "Oh, that's interesting. I see blood. Then they cut to the reverse. Just people in the park. No blood. She's like, oh, they're killing each other.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:13:20] Are they hallucinating?
Paul Scheer [00:13:20] Is this a dream that these two women have had on a park bench?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:13:23] Because I knew it was an M. Night Shyamalan movie. The whole time I was expecting at the end for there to be a twist that would, in fact, reveal all of the information I wanted in a way that would infuriate me.
Paul Scheer [00:13:38] The twist is you paid for this movie.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:13:41] Twist is the twist is there is no twist. Ha ha. Joke's on you. It just is bad.
Paul Scheer [00:13:48] I mean, I just look very rarely on this show do we get into acting, and I don't think it has any issue with the actors because everyone is equally equally bad. And like everyone in this movie, feels like they're doing an acting exercise. It's like you're going to talk about peanut butter sandwiches, and you're going to talk about your shoes, and you're going to try to have a conversation together. Like, I like peanut butter sandwiches. My shoes are brown isn't the most tasty thing to have. I wear my shoes every day. It's like they're not. No one is connecting. I literally typed in The Happening movie and it says, do you want to know why the acting is so bad? That was the first thing that came up.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:14:31] I do want to know.
June Diane Raphael [00:14:32] What did you find out?
Paul Scheer [00:14:32] There's a lot of Reddit post theories as to why.
June Diane Raphael [00:14:35] Now? Did you? Okay, I have so many questions. Why did John Leguizamo, why did?
Paul Scheer [00:14:41] Johnny Legs.
June Diane Raphael [00:14:42] Why did he?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:14:43] I kept writing Johnny Legs too.
June Diane Raphael [00:14:45] Why did why did Johnny Legs hate Zooey Deschanel so much?
Paul Scheer [00:14:52] I have a theory.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:14:52] He hated her, right? A. B, he says and does everything wrong. He says in front of his daughter that her mother is missing, presumed dead. All because she wanted to go get Jess a birthday present, some doll house shit or something. Okay, I got to go, little one. I was like, is she here? Can she hear all of this?
Paul Scheer [00:15:17] I also think his plan is flawed, but I want to go back and I want to go.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:15:21] You think he's Joey?
Paul Scheer [00:15:22] Yes. Yes. Yes. But no. That's what I thought.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:15:31] At the very beginning he says that he said.
June Diane Raphael [00:15:33] Is that the twist?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:15:34] I don't think, I wish. I thought that could be the twist. But then there's a thing which is like at the very beginning, he's like. I walked in on her getting ready for the wedding, and she was crying and she she didn't want to make she's not all in basically, or something like that.
June Diane Raphael [00:15:49] But what did he see? She was crying before the wedding. That could have meant anything.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:15:53] I know, but the whole movie seems to hinge on they, mark Wahlberg and Zooey Deschanel need the events of this movie to bring them together as a loving couple. And I'm here to say they should break up.
June Diane Raphael [00:16:06] Absolutely.
Paul Scheer [00:16:07] No, Jason, they should be given a child.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:16:11] Yeah. No.
Paul Scheer [00:16:12] Two! First of all, this lives in a world in which if the parent you could just take a kid like you, don't. They're yours now. It's fine. Yeah. Like they get a kid and then.
June Diane Raphael [00:16:24] I don't know. I mean, let people have babies when whenever they want to have babies, of course. But.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:16:29] Of course.
June Diane Raphael [00:16:29] Of course.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:16:29] Of course, of course.
Paul Scheer [00:16:31] No one's judging that.
June Diane Raphael [00:16:32] They seem to be the legal custodians of Jess, and she's just lost both of her parents, has seen multiple people die in front of her.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:16:42] Dozens. Dozens.
Paul Scheer [00:16:44] Time to go back to school five months later. Forget about that.
June Diane Raphael [00:16:47] But I'm just like, do you all need to have a baby right now? Like you do have a child? That child is Jess.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:16:54] Yeah, well, A, there's that. There's also, like, do you guys need to have a child right now? Like, work on your relationship, please? Like that was a terrorist attack. A presumed terrorist attack. Hundreds of people are dying in the streets of New York. They are in Penn Station trying to get on that train to get out of town. The trailer makes it look like a bunch of people are on a train, and the train stops and it's like something's happening. But no, a lot of other crazy stuff happens. But regardless, Zooey Deschanel is mad. She's mad that Mark Wahlberg has told Johnny Legs that they had a fight and she's like, I'm going to go sit by myself. I'm like an attack is happening. As far as you're concerned. She's prioritizing all the wrong stuff.
June Diane Raphael [00:17:37] But also this this is what I was really struggling with with, which was yes, they're setting up that they need this really crazy event to happen, to come back to each other.
Paul Scheer [00:17:47] Better than therapy.
June Diane Raphael [00:17:48] But it but Paul, it's like, what did she do wrong? She went out for tiramisu. First of all. Gross.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:55] Oh my God.
June Diane Raphael [00:17:55] If you're going to have an affair, you're going to flirt with one other guy. I'm like, that's the weirdest thing to do. Go out for a drink. Like have a cocktail. Like what?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:08] Respect yourself.
Paul Scheer [00:18:10] [Mark Wahlberg impression] "Not for one. It's for two. One, two."
June Diane Raphael [00:18:17] So weird. Like him if I were him. If you told me you went out for tiramisu with a woman.
Paul Scheer [00:18:22] Yes. What would you do? Record this.
June Diane Raphael [00:18:28] Honestly, to go out. First of all, I find it very strange when people go out just for dessert. That's weird. That's weird.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:36] I completely agree.
June Diane Raphael [00:18:37] Go out for a meal, go out for coffee, go out for a drink.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:42] But fo adults that are like, let's go to Pinkberry.
June Diane Raphael [00:18:43] Weird. It's weird.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:47] Honestly. Kill yourself.
June Diane Raphael [00:18:48] Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:49] Listen to the wind.
June Diane Raphael [00:18:54] Do what it tells you. If you told me you went out for tiramisu with a woman, I would say I'm so glad you didn't ask me to go.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:19:02] Yeah. Joey calls her when she's on the train sitting alone. Joey, the Joey's been blowing her up on her Nokia flip phone. Joey's calling her. She takes it and she goes, "I feel like you're the Fatal Attraction guy. And I'm going to see your shadow in the shower curtain." Okay. I'm pretty sure she's conflating Fatal Attraction and Psycho into one movie?
Paul Scheer [00:19:25] Right. And I would argue that Fatal Attraction's most famous thing is the bunny.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:19:30] Is the bunny and boiling the bunny. It's not the shower that's Psycho. So, yeah, two psychotic things. I think she's an absolute idiot in the movie.
Paul Scheer [00:19:38] All right.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:19:39] I really wanted the twist to be that somehow she was responsible. She was like, I fucked this guy, Joey. He works at at a wet market in Wuhan. I don't know what's going on, but the wind is talking to me.
Paul Scheer [00:19:56] I also feel, and this is again where we get I think it might be direction when you first meet Zooey Deschanel. I think she's a great actress. She's fun. She's full of life. The way that they introduce you to her, it's like, oh, something's wrong. Like, she hasn't left the house and she seems broken.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:19] She talks about herself and she says to Jess, don't worry, Jess, I don't like to show my emotions either. Boy, that's a tough thing for this, for you to not be emotional in the face of what is unquestionably one of the most shocking and emotional roller coasters of your life.
June Diane Raphael [00:20:35] She's also just doing the strangest things during this time, like she's playing house with Jess, and that's weird. And I didn't feel like they had a connection. And, you know, horrible things are happening and the wind is getting closer and closer, and she's like, Jess needs to go on the swing.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:54] Oh yeah.
June Diane Raphael [00:20:56] Couple minutes to let her play.
Paul Scheer [00:20:58] Yeah. Aafter they know. After they know trees are the enemy.
June Diane Raphael [00:21:04] She's literally creating wind.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:05] They keep cutting to the branch they keep cutting to the branches as if they're cutting to the tree being like, don't you do this. Don't you do this. No, no, don't make me hurt you. Like the trees get reaction shots. Like it's like the trees are the shark in Jaws. It's like, oh, here comes the fin. Here's this branch.
Paul Scheer [00:21:28] My favorite moment in the movie. Again, characters say stuff in this movie that no human would ever say. And my favorite line was, "Just go to the window near the big tree." Like, that's what the mom tells the daughter to do. Like, why would you go to the what? Why? Why are you telling?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:47] So stupid.
Paul Scheer [00:21:47] Why would you like. It's such a weird specific.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:49] Nobody talks like they would ever talk like this. When they all pour out of the diner, pour into cars and, like, pull out like it's wacky races and Dick Dastardly and Motley are going to be there. That's for the old people. And and everybody's taking off and they're not letting them in their car. And she goes, why is everybody so crappy? I was like, really? What? That's what she says right now?
Paul Scheer [00:22:16] I mean, also, I do love all right. Mark Wahlberg called in to a meeting of the teachers at the school and they go, there's been a terrorist attack in Central Park. And he goes, that's odd. Like like he doesn't believe it. Like why they wouldn't terrorist wouldn't attack. It's full of people.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:38] That's weird. It's like all open space and yeah.
Paul Scheer [00:22:40] They're just, say, easy targets. Soft targets.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:43] How many years after September 11th is this? We got to talk about it.
Paul Scheer [00:22:48] It's 2008. Just 2008.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:51] This is unquestionably a post September 11th movie.
Paul Scheer [00:22:53] Oh, yes.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:54] In a way that is not cool at all.
Paul Scheer [00:22:57] It is is as if people did not live through that. Now, look, they're in Philadelphia. Philadelphia works on its own thing. But I will say this, I'll tell you one thing that people in Philly won't do. If the train stops in Philbert, which he also doesn't believe. Where was that? Yeah, it's a fucking stop on the train, you idiot. Like it wasn't like like even they're in a bat cave. It's like, yeah, you fucking. You're at the stop.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:23] But when we were watching the trailer, I, June and I both said that I love that scene, which is the just the conductors. And he's like, we lost contact. With who? Everyone.
Paul Scheer [00:23:32] But this is this is. This is my thing.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:37] [Whispering] Kill yourself.
Paul Scheer [00:23:38] I've been to Philadelphia many times. I like the people of Philly. You don't think those people are going to be standing silently having a chat outside the train. Hey hey. Hey, motherfucker. Why the fuck are we not going? Let's go Flyers! Yeah, they would fucking jump on that train and drive it. Everyone's like, Huh?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:58] Oh, no. If this was a real train full of Philly residents, they would be eating horse shit off the ground.
Paul Scheer [00:24:06] Eagles fly! Fly Eagles!
Jason Mantzoukas [00:24:09] We aren't human. The wind doesn't affect us. We're trash. Shit. Are we going to Philly anytime soon?
Paul Scheer [00:24:19] Better not affect the fucking Eagles game. But it is. It is weird. They're so polite.
June Diane Raphael [00:24:26] Why were there so many conductors?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:24:29] Oh my God.
Paul Scheer [00:24:31] I think they're all ticket takers. I think they're all ticket takers.
June Diane Raphael [00:24:34] But even if they're ticket takers. Even if they're ticket takers. There were. I feel like there were eight men.
Paul Scheer [00:24:41] Yes. Too many men. It also to me, I'm like, why would you just stop? We lost contact. You know what? Let's stop. Keep on going. Get the fuck out of there.
June Diane Raphael [00:24:51] I don't know.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:24:52] The movie also has multiple. Like, what are what are, given to us as kind of jumpscare moments that, as they unfolded in reality, would never have been jumpscares. One of which is when all the landscapers have hung themselves, they would have seen that half a mile ahead. Oh, no. People are hanging from trees up there, but they got all the way to lawn mowers? Lawn mowers? Whoa, whoa! The guy that lays down and lets a lawn mower run over him is my favorite part of the movie. Just like.
Paul Scheer [00:25:32] But this is what I'm talking about. This is like, so the people at the construction site, they just jump off a tall building, right? Great, awesome, great.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:40] By the way, very effective.
Paul Scheer [00:25:42] These guys are in tall trees. And these guys in tall trees, like. Well, let's make it a little bit more fancy. Let's hang ourselves. Like there's lawnmowers there.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:50] They put ladders into the trees.
Paul Scheer [00:25:53] Yeah, they climbed up. They could fall off a ladder and break their necks.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:55] Did you guys not think there's a. To me, the movie is a failure in microcosm by not giving us the B-side of the Chekhov's nuclear power plant. Oh, yeah. You cannot show me two nuclear, two nuclear tubes. What are they called?
Paul Scheer [00:26:16] Smokestacks.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:16] You got it. You can't show me that. And then not at some point. Have them be like, BOOM and look. And mushroom cloud. You're telling me nobody like, listening to the trees and was like, boop. Boom!
June Diane Raphael [00:26:30] I felt the same way.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:32] Why show us that?
June Diane Raphael [00:26:33] Same way about Mark Wahlberg's mood ring. Why are we? Why does he take it with him?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:41] Why does he wear it as if it's his wedding ring? He wears it as if it's his wedding ring.
June Diane Raphael [00:26:49] When he left that house, he's so frantic he's got to get out of town. And one of the first things he grabs is that mood ring.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:54] Oh yeah.
June Diane Raphael [00:26:55] And then he checks in on it a number of times during the movie.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:58] He uses it to bond with Jess. Yeah. He talks about it with Zooey Deschanel.
June Diane Raphael [00:27:03] But it never really amounts to anything.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:06] Yeah, you know why? Because it's a fucking mood ring. What does it matter?
Paul Scheer [00:27:13] No, it's it's a crass joke, and I won't say it. I'd say if you put that ring on, the girl is like oh purple. That means you're horny.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:21] Haha.
Paul Scheer [00:27:24] I knew she wasn't going to like it.
June Diane Raphael [00:27:26] I wish you hadn't said it.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:27] Leave it in, leave it in.
Paul Scheer [00:27:32] But that like. But that. Yeah. Like that mood ring represents, I think, the best part of their marriage. That's the twist, right?
June Diane Raphael [00:27:39] If that's the best part of their marriage, it's like they got to break up.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:43] They got. There should not. Johnny Legs is right. They shouldn't be together.
June Diane Raphael [00:27:46] They shouldn't be together. He doesn't like her and she doesn't like him.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:52] Yes. They are not well well-suited for each other.
June Diane Raphael [00:27:55] At the worst of times, like they're terrible for each other.
Paul Scheer [00:27:57] I just don't. Also, from a perspective of just a little thing called character, I don't understand like what his flaw is, like he's a scientist, not the smartest scientist. He seems to be pretty decisive, but not really a leader. And he doesn't really have any flaws. Like he's just a guy.
June Diane Raphael [00:28:21] I agree though, because I thought for sure what we were going to come back to was this idea of like, he's too focused on the scientific method, he's too focused on, like, on on variables and control groups and like, he's got to think way outside the box. That never happens.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:38] No. No he's not. That's not his job.
Paul Scheer [00:28:42] Because this scene right here. This is like what any of us would like. A movie would be like, some shit's going down. I have an idea. But he acts like I think all of us would act. Which is this.
Movie Audio [00:29:01] I don't know. The toxin? The toxin is affecting them?
Movie Audio [00:29:11] Are those people killing themselves?
Movie Audio [00:29:12] You were with the private. What do we do?
Movie Audio [00:29:14] We need to do something.
Movie Audio [00:29:15] Just let me think.
Movie Audio [00:29:19] They're dying.
Movie Audio [00:29:20] I need a second.
Movie Audio [00:29:21] They released it? We're not near the roads.
Movie Audio [00:29:23] We can't just stand here as uninvolved observers.
Movie Audio [00:29:26] I need a second. Okay, just give me a second.
Movie Audio [00:29:28] W're not going to be one of those assholes on the news who watches a crime happen and not do something. We're not assholes.
Movie Audio [00:29:33] Just a second.
Movie Audio [00:29:34] There were children in that room.
Movie Audio [00:29:36] Elliot, please tell us what to do.
Movie Audio [00:29:37] I need a second. Okay? Why can't anybody give me a goddamn second? Alright, be scientific, douche bag. Identify find the variables into two groups.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:29:48] I want to point something out, because there's going to be a lot of people in the industry in this audience, so you'll understand these were the best takes they had. They had to use these takes. Imagine all the other takes.
Paul Scheer [00:30:05] I mean, the fact that he is like freaking out and he doesn't solve anything. I mean, he doesn't really solve anything. People are getting shot. And that's the other weird thing about it. We understand that. Or at least the way I understand it. Trees shoot out toxins. You start walking backwards.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:30:21] Well, hey, can I ask you. I'm sorry to interrupt you. Can I ask you a question, though? Because the movie is constantly sort of giving us clues in the scene just prior to this, when the woman is on the phone with her daughter, who's in, what a terrible movie scene. A movie scene where dozens of people are gathered on one person who's talking to someone on a speakerphone for whom the interesting thing is happening, and she's like, just go get to know what you were saying earlier. But then the daughter start saying, I can see calculus, I can see you in calculus. And I was like, this is a clue. This has got to be giving us no just nonsense.
Paul Scheer [00:30:56] But that's. But that was the sign one was they get disoriented, but the movie shows disorientation by walking backwards. I'm just oriented and I'm disoriented. Like, that's not disoriented. Disoriented. Be like, oh, no, it would be more confused. And then then and then like. And then the military guy's like, I have my gun, my gun is my gun. I'm like, wait, why don't you shoot yourself in the head? Other people just immediately just kill themselves like he's going into full monologue.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:31:26] He's Jeremy Stronging it. I'm certain M. Night Shyamalan was like, just shoot yourself in the head. He's like, I got something. Don't worry, I got something. You're going to love it. I'm going to do it whether you like it or not. Don't tell Brian Cox in 15 years.
June Diane Raphael [00:31:44] And he did. I thought what was happening is like the last thing that they said was what was getting sort of remixed.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:31:53] It does seem to be the case, but then not. But for him not that's not what he was saying at that moment.
June Diane Raphael [00:31:59] It didn't seem like it.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:00] The calculus girl wasn't saying, you know.
June Diane Raphael [00:32:02] Wait, another question.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:03] There are so. There are no patterns. Yeah. There's nothing to hold on to and be like, okay, I'm piecing it together. This is the fun of a movie like this.
June Diane Raphael [00:32:10] Especially because the end sequence, after all is said and done, we're now three months later and we're in Paris, and, The Happening is happening again. Yeah. And I thought for sure, like, okay, this is different. This is going to be this is where the twist is now. It's just the same thing. Same thing.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:29] Same same thing. But French so who cares.
Paul Scheer [00:32:32] Sacrebleu.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:33] By the way, let him go.
Paul Scheer [00:32:36] Can anyone. And I feel silly for asking this, but can anyone just tell me what the cough syrup scene was about?
June Diane Raphael [00:32:44] I don't even remember that.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:45] What cough syrup scene?
Paul Scheer [00:32:46] When he goes, yeah, I went to the pharmacy and bought cough syrup.
June Diane Raphael [00:32:50] Oh wait wait wait.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:52] Yeah, I remember he tells a story about when she after she tells him that she went on the pseudo date with Joey. He says to her, well, you know what? I should tell you that when I was at the pharmacy, there was a pretty girl, there was a pretty pharmacist, and I pretended to have a cough so that I could. And I actually thought about buying cough syrup just so that he. But then she's like, are you are you kidding? And he's like, yeah. And yeah, honestly. And then she says, thanks. They're married.
June Diane Raphael [00:33:20] Listen, I think what was happening. Well, first, when it was happening, I thought he was having one of those mental remixes, and I was like, uh oh, he's gone. But I think what was happening is he was trying to make her feel better, but. And so was lying.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:42] Yeah.
June Diane Raphael [00:33:43] Wow. Was that weird.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:44] Remember, he. Everything is. So remember when he's talking to the plant?
June Diane Raphael [00:33:49] Oh, that's the best scene in the movie!
Paul Scheer [00:33:51] The best scene in the movie.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:52] You got it? Let's go. Let's go.
Paul Scheer [00:33:54] They reveal the plant as if Jason Voorhees is in the room. Oh shit!
Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:00] As if there's a zombie in the house. Oh, no, there's a zombie in the house.
Paul Scheer [00:34:05] I mean, the way they shoot this plant. This plant in the room in the corner, it's like, oh, fuck.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:12] It's like "Kill yourself."
Paul Scheer [00:34:14] And now this movie takes the movie. This movie takes it one step further, which is like it's very calculated how each plant attacks.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:22] And don't you feel like. Don't you absolutely feel like whoever set that property, man, whoever had to provide the tree, they must have gone through dozens of trees for M. Night to be like, no, that one's too nice. No, I need a meaner looking tree, and then I need the tree to look like it's a monster. You know, just like one after a good one.
Paul Scheer [00:34:45] This is a good shaggy tree. Here we go.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:53] Look at him. Look at his hands. Like, I don't know.
Movie Audio [00:34:56] I'm gonna tell you more. Just going to talk in a very positive manner. Giving off good vibes. We're just here to use the bathroom and we're just going to leave. I hope that's okay. Plastic.
Paul Scheer [00:35:26] There's no way you go home after that scene and go, that was a good day at work.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:29] Yeah. This this scene, again in microcosm, is the movie. It seems real and full of living things, but in fact, it's plastic.
Paul Scheer [00:35:41] I mean, everybody they meet in this movie is insane. And they equally are insane. I mean.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:46] Oh, the teenage boys that they're traveling with for a while. Jared and the other kid. When then they say when the kids are walking and the teenage boys are like, what's going on with you two? About Mark and Zooey. And the kid goes, you have to take responsibility for your actions, man. I was like this. I literally was like, this movie was written when M. Night Shyamalan unquestionably was in marriage therapy. This entire movie is about saving a failing marriage, and that line spoken from a child is nothing but therap. Speak about like, hey man, you need to take responsibility for your own actions. What? Jared, you're about to get shot in the head.
Paul Scheer [00:36:31] I, I love, I mean, I mean and Jerry. Jerry does get shot. This movie shoots a child. And oddly, that's like, the most vicious.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:42] Yeah, two. And we never see the shooters. We never see the villains. Because.
June Diane Raphael [00:36:47] I actually thought that was a cool choice.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:48] Because we don't see bad guys really.
Paul Scheer [00:36:49] That's M. Night. That was his cameo.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:51] Who?
Paul Scheer [00:36:52] Bam! But my favorite thing is that guy's like, hey, hey, we're totally normal. Oh, Blackwater. Keep on shining. I'm like, I'm dead. You're out. I'm never opening that door. You are insane. Never. You are an insane person.
June Diane Raphael [00:37:07] And so that sequence, those two houses with the kids, the teenage kids and. And Betty Buckley?
Paul Scheer [00:37:18] Yeah.
June Diane Raphael [00:37:18] And Betty Buckley. That whole sequence, to me was the only interesting part of the movie. I was like, oh, the horror of how people act under attack and in crisis. And, you know, that was like, oh, this is if this was the whole movie about we have to get out of our cities.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:35] The true danger is other people.
June Diane Raphael [00:37:38] Exactly. That's an interesting movie.
Paul Scheer [00:37:39] Well, they kind of do that in that movie, like Leave the World Behind, that Julia Roberts movie that was on Netflix. Netflix is a joke festival. Look at the connections.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:49] Hulu.
June Diane Raphael [00:37:49] But that movie.
Paul Scheer [00:37:54] Guys, watch Knuckles on Paramount Plus. I'm in it. No big deal. How did this get made brought to you by BritBox.
Paul Scheer [00:38:03] And Acorn.
June Diane Raphael [00:38:06] Acorn TV
Paul Scheer [00:38:07] Disney Plus. Hulu.
June Diane Raphael [00:38:10] With Buckley I thought was amazing. I was like, I love her. I love that she slapped Jess's hand.
Paul Scheer [00:38:18] She's absolutely insane.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:22] You're telling me.
June Diane Raphael [00:38:23] Loved it.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:24] From the moment of their arrival. I loved it too, from them, but from the moment of their arrival, all the way through dinner, all the way until after dinner, they have not once mentioned to her that they have seen hundreds of people die at this point, and that there is a, to them, somewhat global or somewhat, I guess not global, but, you know, Northeast Pacific, something happening and that she is unaware of, and we never talk about it?
Paul Scheer [00:38:49] It could be global because they stop getting news. I mean like they they the news in this movie is amazing. Like that Central Park attack happens and within minutes like, okay, the autopsy show. Hundreds of people. You're already doing autopsy this quick?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:04] If those guys shot those kids, you know, through the through the house, I'm lighting that house on fire and walking away, I'm like, fuck you. Gasoline, gasoline, gasoline, gasoline. Goodbye.
June Diane Raphael [00:39:17] Here's my question. Why? Why does anyone in this movie ever get out of a car?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:24] Yeah.
Paul Scheer [00:39:26] Well, because maybe of a hole in the roof.
June Diane Raphael [00:39:28] One roof?
Paul Scheer [00:39:32] I mean, why would you get out of the car if you have plenty of hot dogs? And travel hot dogs might be like that is written by, like someone who doesn't live on the planet Earth. Well, we have our snacks. Get the hot dogs and the muffins.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:47] Make sure everybody. Do you like hot dogs? Do you like hot dogs? Do you like hot dogs? Did you get the mustard? Do you like hot dogs? I was like, what's going on here?
Paul Scheer [00:39:57] Hot dogs. Like, not a food that travels well and you have to cook, give to do so much.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:02] I would feel I would understand that if they were lines that a child was saying, I want hot dogs. Can we bring hot dogs? Let's bring hot dogs. Do we bring mustard? I love hot dogs.
June Diane Raphael [00:40:15] Here's another question why are Mark Wahlberg's genes so big?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:22] I have a follow up question. Why, when the somewhat of an apocalyptic situation is occurring, why did Zooey Deschanel only pack sundresses and light tops? Everybody's in, like jeans and t shirts like, we gotta get out of here. And she's like, I'm wearing a beautiful, fancy dress. I was like, absolutely not. You can't be wearing like, a slip dress at the apocalypse. Absolutely not. No way.
Paul Scheer [00:40:51] She is wearing the outfits of a woman who goes out to desert with a man.
June Diane Raphael [00:40:56] Ew. Ew.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:57] It felt so. It felt to me. Yes. It felt like this was tiramisu wear. You know.
June Diane Raphael [00:41:05] You know the tiramisu was her idea. That's not like Joey at all.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:11] Oh, yeah. I mean, if it was a formal, it would have been a tiramisusan.
Paul Scheer [00:41:15] I. I think that my my big issue and you know, you're right. Like. You. You both are right.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:30] Best joke of the night. My favorite joke of the night.
Paul Scheer [00:41:34] I think that you both are right about Betty Buckley. I think the thing that I get hung up on is everyone that they meet is legitimately insane. Yeah, like from the hot dog guy to the guy that kills a kid with a shotgun like.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:48] Jeremy Strong Johnny Legs. Johnny Legs just abandons his daughter.
Paul Scheer [00:41:52] Like he gives her up and he's like, don't touch her hand.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:55] When they see the landscapers hanging from the tree and the girl behind him freaks out. He's like, I'm going to give you a math riddle. I was like, how about turn the car around?
June Diane Raphael [00:42:07] Turn the car around or just go.
Paul Scheer [00:42:10] Yeah.
June Diane Raphael [00:42:10] Just stop. Put something on that tiny rip.
Paul Scheer [00:42:14] His plan sucks. He's like, okay, I'm going to go. What? Into the middle of Princeton and just be like, Susie! Susie! It's like you would argue that she probably got the fuck out of there too, but they just assume, like, everyone in Princeton is dead. Unless she got out. I mean, again.
June Diane Raphael [00:42:33] It's also like I found so upsetting. I'm like this woman, whoever she is, his wife, like, the last thing she wants, buddy, is for you to leave her child in the middle of, like, an apocalypse.
Paul Scheer [00:42:49] With a couple that doesn't get along.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:52] They the. Yes, the movie exists in two polar extremes, like Mark Wahlberg and Zooey Deschanel are too blasé and two flat, and everybody else is way too crazy, and that you just can't make any thing out of when he is walking through the house and he's going. Mrs. Jones. Mrs. Jones. He walks into a room, a bedroom where there is very clearly a little doll on the bed, and he goes, Mrs. Jones? I was like, no, absolutely not. You should know that's a doll. I know it's a doll and I've seen it from behind your shoulder so you can see it much clearer. It's a doll, you dumb fuck.
Paul Scheer [00:43:44] Maybe. Maybe it is a doll. Maybe she is a doll. I mean, this is.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:50] Mrs. Jones? Mrs. Jones?
Paul Scheer [00:43:57] I would believe him looking at that cookie on the table and saying it more than the doll. Mrs. Jones? Mrs. Jones?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:11] Me and Mrs. Mrs. Jones. Then like mere moments later when he is talking through the tube to he realizes that Zooey Deschanel and Jess are in the in the outhouse, but they can hear each other through the tube that connects them, which has been set up perfectly. Thank you. Thank you, Betty Buckley, for setting that up. Anyway. He goes, but he says, close the windows and the doors. This is three quarters of the way through the movie when they know that the bad stuff comes that way. She goes, why?
June Diane Raphael [00:44:46] Why? Why?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:49] Why? We're having fun. Why are you ruining this for me? I hate you. Why? You're dumped. How about your dumped? I would love it if he dumped her in the middle of the movie.
Paul Scheer [00:45:05] Check that mood ring, you're dumped.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:09] Is it purple? No, it just says you're dumped like it's a magic eight ball.
Paul Scheer [00:45:14] Ask again later, but you'll still be dumped. This might be in a movie with millions of scenes that are just meme worthy. This might be the best moment in cinema history. Right here.
Movie Audio [00:45:32] I hear you whispering. Planning on stealing something?
Movie Audio [00:45:38] No, ma'am. Wer're not.
Movie Audio [00:45:40] Plan on murdering me in my sleep?
Movie Audio [00:45:42] What? No.
Paul Scheer [00:45:46] That.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:49] Where did that come from? We never get an explanation why she's so nuts.
Paul Scheer [00:45:55] I mean. I mean, I just want to watch that.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:58] Like, did you think this was also, like, a little bit of an invitation? Did you think she was also like, come. You want to come murder me in my sleep?
Paul Scheer [00:46:11] Stab me, stab me in my sleep, you bad, bad boy. What? No.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:46:19] Have the trees not told you that I'm absolutely great at blowjobs.
Movie Audio [00:46:28] Do you plan on murdering me in my sleep?
Movie Audio [00:46:32] What? No.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:46:36] What? No.
Paul Scheer [00:46:37] He. He says it. I think what's so funny about it? He says with like, no gravitas. It's like, yo, did you eat my Oreo? What? No. She just said, you're going to murder me and he's like, What? No.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:46:53] But for real? She doesn't even know what. She's acting like she knows there's a zombie apocalypse and that people might be untrustworthy. She's acting like that. But these are just strangers. These are just. She knows nothing. So why do we never understand? People's motivations are never.
Paul Scheer [00:47:10] Well, she's just a crazy lady who lives in a house.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:12] So everybody's a crazy person who lives in a house then.
Paul Scheer [00:47:15] Maybe she's a ghost. Oh, by the way.
June Diane Raphael [00:47:20] She's a crazy person, I think, because she's alone. I think that's what we're supposed to take away.
Paul Scheer [00:47:24] Okay.
June Diane Raphael [00:47:25] That she's had no contact with the world.
Paul Scheer [00:47:27] So she's foreshadowing Mark Wahlberg if he gets divorced.
June Diane Raphael [00:47:33] Okay.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:37] So you're saying that that's why this movie is so pro them getting back together? Because to be alone is to kind of lose it like this. Yeah, like Mrs. Jones.
June Diane Raphael [00:47:46] Listen, the reason why I ran out in the beginning of the show is because we were talking. You guys were talking about that end moment where he walks out and she walks out and the virus is still on. And, Paul, when when we were watching this movie together, I was so upset that he wanted to walk out. They were safe where they were. And you said I'd do the same exact thing. That's what you said.
Paul Scheer [00:48:09] I'm romantic.
June Diane Raphael [00:48:11] No, you said it. You said I do the same exact thing. And I said, why? I don't want nobody wants this. Why would you do that?
Paul Scheer [00:48:19] Now, we also argued about another scene because we saw this scene where the guy was shooting people in the field. And, and Zooey Deschanel's like, help them. I was like, no, run away. The man has a gun. And, you know, run towards the bullets. I'm like, no.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:48:34] Absolutely not. Yeah, you got to run away.
June Diane Raphael [00:48:35] No, you said no. You said if I heard if I heard people in trouble with a gun, I wouldn't run toward them. And I did say, well, not in this situation where there's, you know, the wind. In general. If it weren't for the wind, I think I would try. I think I would try to help.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:48:55] Once you realize it's from the trees, it's from the plants, it's from the whatever. At which, because everybody is frantically driving all over the place, they're going everywhere willy nilly. There's only one answer. Get on a boat. Get in the middle of the ocean. Period.
June Diane Raphael [00:49:13] Take to the sea.
Paul Scheer [00:49:14] What about the algae? What about algae?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:17] I don't think that's part of it.
June Diane Raphael [00:49:18] The problem is, Jason. Because I thought about that too. But the wind can get out there.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:24] You're right, you're right. Okay.
Paul Scheer [00:49:26] The wind can get everywhere. I remember I was in Japan with my dad, and my dad said.
June Diane Raphael [00:49:32] Was the wind there?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:35] I'll be honest, these Santa Anna, has it been kicking up the last few, the last few nights. And I'm like, what the fuck?
June Diane Raphael [00:49:40] My allergies.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:41] I don't feel safe in my own house, by my own hand.
Paul Scheer [00:49:44] And my. And my dad made a comment. My dad. My dad lives in New York. My dad made a comment is like, you know, it's it's, you know, there's fires in LA have been really wreaking havoc in New York. And I was like, the fuck are you talking about? No, it's not. The fires in L.A. are, are making its way to New York. And he's like, yeah. And I'm like, I'm gonna Google that. And he was right that the fires in L.A..
June Diane Raphael [00:50:08] That's a wind for you. That's the power of the wind.
Paul Scheer [00:50:10] Yeah, the wind is pretty fucking powerful.
June Diane Raphael [00:50:13] Please don't underestimate the wind.
Paul Scheer [00:50:15] So sorry. Are you now on board for the Wind as a villain?
Paul Scheer [00:50:20] I'm on board of the wind is the best carrier of the plant's evil deeds. You know what was totally. It's the worm tongue to the Sauron.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:50:37] You know what I couldn't get on board for it at all? And I kept being like, what is this telling me? Every Kyron that that appears on the bottom of the screen, telling me where they are and what time in the morning it is, and I'm like, the fuck is this for? Am I supposed to be keeping track of something?
Paul Scheer [00:50:55] Am I drawing a map three blocks north of Central Park?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:51:02] Maps are the most important thing in this movie.
June Diane Raphael [00:51:04] Yes, and that's also weird to like. To your point, Paul, we never see they they are reporting on the news that they know all this information about what's happened to people and have done these autopsies, but we never see like the cleanup crew in hazmat suits or anything. Get out there like we've.
Paul Scheer [00:51:21] Still day one.
June Diane Raphael [00:51:22] Only in destruction.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:51:23] We also keep going back and forth like they'll be in one location and all of the newscasts will drop out, the power will go all this stuff, and then they'll go to another house and there's a newscast on.
June Diane Raphael [00:51:34] Wait, I have a question that I don't think we've really addressed. Why does this just happen in the northeast?
Paul Scheer [00:51:40] I think it's because that's where M. Night Shyamalan is from.
Paul Scheer [00:51:45] I thought that this is actually very scientifically true. The, the plants in the northeast have a much bigger attitude than other plants. They're just like a little bit over it.
June Diane Raphael [00:51:57] Notoriously rude from other plants.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:52:00] And I think if the plants were to be like, let's fuck shit up, it would be in Philly.
June Diane Raphael [00:52:06] Yeah you're right.
Paul Scheer [00:52:07] Let me let me show you this moment. See what you guys think. Oh my God, I'm watching somebody get eaten alive by a tiger. Hey, everyone gather around. Watch it. Watch this torture porn I have. Oh, get the kids in close.
June Diane Raphael [00:52:21] So many people are watching it.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:52:22] So many people watch it. Especially when we've been shown that Zooey Deschanel is using a flip phone. So, like, there's also smartphones with video. There's so much.
Paul Scheer [00:52:34] And again, guys jumping off of buildings, other people hanging from trees.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:52:37] The guy letting lions eat him. Was as funny as the lawn mower.
Paul Scheer [00:52:43] Yeah. Like he pats the lion like he's drugged. Well, like the whole thing is like, it takes away that one part of your brain that, like, lets you hurt yourself. And I'm like, why don't you fucking attack the lion? Hey. Fucking jerk. Yeah. For it, like, go out fighting a lion. Not just be like hey lion.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:01] Like, hey, you want some of this? You hungry? You want some of this?
June Diane Raphael [00:53:06] To the point where. What I was watching that. I was like, oh, the lions aren't going to see him as any sort of a threat.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:13] So are we to assume, I guess because the dogs don't know animals are affected by this?
Paul Scheer [00:53:18] No, because they don't have lungs. What I again, what are we what are what are the rules?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:25] It was so of the the workers jumping in the beginning. The workers jumping off of this construction site. Very effective at setting this up as like, oh, that is that's brutal. This is crazy.
June Diane Raphael [00:53:37] I was also impressed that that construction site had an on site medic.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:41] Yes.
June Diane Raphael [00:53:44] They did not they did not call 911.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:46] Oh, I'm a construction medic.
Paul Scheer [00:53:48] My what is my favorite? My favorite thing about that construction crew is they they tell a joke that is such a schoolyard joke about a big dick. And, that guy's like, yeah, yeah, like hitting him. Hey, it's it's like, again.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:54:04] That felt like an open, a cold open of Law and Order.
June Diane Raphael [00:54:07] Yes, yes.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:54:09] Yeah. And I and it and it said, oh, welcome to whatever. Have a nice day. But. Oh hey, wait a minute, bum bum. And then Lenny Briscoe walks in and he's like, hey, it looks like this guy took a dive from a height a couldn't like some. He's just got crackling one liners one after another.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:54:30] And then iced tea will be like this. It's the trees. And then they sue the trees and then said, you're honor this maple tree.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:54:42] Sam Waterston is like, I'm making a deal with the trees. You can't.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:54:48] Let's go to the crowd. Let's see what the crowd has to say. Oh my God. And remember, if it's a good question, you'll walk away with, coupon of $18 value of Tillamook.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:55:01] I don't I don't think we should be this.
June Diane Raphael [00:55:04] Wow. But honestly up $18 value $18.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:55:10] So if somebody just like gives us stuff do we just promote it?
Paul Scheer [00:55:14] I got like two one. No. They are advertisers on the show. They're advertisers on the show.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:55:18] Oh they are? Should I not be saying this?
Paul Scheer [00:55:20] Well we'll cut it.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:55:22] You'll cut out my criticism? I don't think we should.
June Diane Raphael [00:55:27] It's not a criticism of the product though. The product stands.
Paul Scheer [00:55:29] Sure.
June Diane Raphael [00:55:31] It's good.
June Diane Raphael [00:55:32] It's good ice cream. Cheese, shredded cheese, whatever you want. Okay. Hi. What's your name?
Audience Member [00:55:38] Dan.
Audience Member [00:55:39] Dan. And what is your question?
Audience Member [00:55:41] Based on something I read where M. Knight said he fucked this movie up. Not in those words, but like, he admits, he made a mistake. Did he fuck up a fun B-movie? Or did he fuck up a serious horror movie? Because both suck.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:55:53] He wasn't specific about what the mistake. Does he think he made a specific mistake or he just missed the bar?
Paul Scheer [00:55:58] Well, he did the Tommy Wiseau thing, which is reviews started to come in and they were bad. He goes, well, everyone's getting it. We made a silly B-movie and it's clearly not that. But he did like with like Tommy Wiseau, like it was always intended to be a comedy. The Room. The Room was conceived as a comedy.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:56:19] Where is this in his filmography?
Paul Scheer [00:56:21] This is in a very tricky spot. He has had a bunch of failures.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:56:27] That's right.
Paul Scheer [00:56:27] Yeah. So lady in the water is the one.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:56:29] Before or after this?
Paul Scheer [00:56:30] Before this. A movie that June and I drove out of the movie theater of. We were in a drive in, and we drove out.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:56:37] I was gonna say, I don't know that I would call that a theater. When you say drove out of the movie theater.
Paul Scheer [00:56:47] And he he wrote this script.
June Diane Raphael [00:56:50] You can't drive out with the same sort of attitude that you can walk with. But we tried.
Paul Scheer [00:56:56] He had written this script after lady in the water. He wrote a script called The Green Effect, and every studio passed on it, and they hated it. And then he rewrote it based on the notes that the studio gave him, and then was able to sell it as The Happening to 20th Century Fox.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:57:16] Oh. So this is both a bad script. And then studio noted into this? Shock of all shocks it doesn't work.
Paul Scheer [00:57:27] Yeah, that's an odd an odd choice, right? Yes. Your name and your question.
Audience Member [00:57:30] Hi. My name is Marissa. My question is, who, in the midst of a presumed terrorist attack approved and printed, ]Killadelphia and thought it was a good idea?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:57:40] Wait, where was that?
June Diane Raphael [00:57:41] Where was that?
Audience Member [00:57:42] That was. I can't remember what newspaper it was, but they cut to a newspaper and it says Killadelphia. Exclamation Point.
Paul Scheer [00:57:50] That's why we need printed media.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:57:53] I honestly I would believe it if you said to me that is an actual copy of an actual Philadelphia newspaper that had there was not a prop and had nothing to do with the movie.
Paul Scheer [00:58:03] But, yes, your name and your question.
Audience Member [00:58:05] Hi, I'm Jen, and I had a potential theory that is maybe giving the movie too much credit.
Paul Scheer [00:58:11] Oh, I love it. This seems Tillamook worthy.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:58:16] What is going on?
Paul Scheer [00:58:18] Now it's time for Tillamook worthy questions.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:58:21] Now for our Tillamookquestion of the night. Don't make it cheesy.
June Diane Raphael [00:58:27] Is everybody getting their coupons, Paul?
Paul Scheer [00:58:30] Some people are, depending on the wuestions.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:58:31] Stop holding it up. This whole show has run Till-amuck. Good. All right. Better than tiramisusan. Although both of them are home runs. I'm really proud of both.
Paul Scheer [00:58:54] Okay, so you have a theory?
Audience Member [00:58:56] Well, it's more of a sub theory, but someone had mentioned that Chekhov's nuclear power plant.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:01] It was me!
Audience Member [00:59:02] Sorry.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:03] What do you mean someone mentioned?
Audience Member [00:59:07] Someone on this show.
June Diane Raphael [00:59:09] There's only three of us.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:11] Minutes ago. Someone. Are you paying attention?
Paul Scheer [00:59:17] Someone. Over the weekend in this conference.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:19] I've heard tell of Chekhov's nuclear power plant. You know what? Go to hell. Credit where credit is due. I said that.
Paul Scheer [00:59:29] Okay. Yes.
Audience Member [00:59:31] So my theory or my my thought was that the nuclear power plant or this was occurring in that area because of accelerated plant mutations from nuclear power. And then that would explain France, who gets, I think, the vast majority of their energy from nuclear power. So I don't think it explains why this is happening generally.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:51] Great. I would love that. I would love it if there was some sort of. And if an actual scientist came in, not just the guy on the news at the end, but and not Mark Wahlberg, high school science teacher. If a real scientist came in and was like, this is what happened and it's happening again. Yeah.
June Diane Raphael [01:00:09] That was sharp, extra sharp.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:00:24] No, if they were smart, it would have happened to the Swiss.
Paul Scheer [01:00:36] I do want to just call out that they established pretty early on in the film that, they know it's an airborne pathogen, right? All this is say that when they cut to one of the newscasters, she's outside at the U.N. and forget about the U.N.. I'm just more focused on the outside. Yeah. Like. Yeah. Deborah, you go out and do it from the field. So there's an airborne virus around New York City, and I'm out here with the people. It's the worst news job you could possibly ever get to do a remote.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:01:10] She's like, I can hear the calculus reporting live. I'm walking backwards.
Paul Scheer [01:01:18] It's like when they send, weather men out into, like, hurricanes. Go out there, go get that pathogen. Let's see what happens. Okay. Yes. What's your name and your question?
Audience Member [01:01:28] Hi. My name is Keenan. And my question is, now, assuming that Mark Wahlberg continues to become a teacher, continues being a teacher, and gets tenure, Covid hits. What is he telling his students about Covid?
Paul Scheer [01:01:44] Well, what is he telling his students about Covid? Yeah, I mean, I don't know, I don't even. I mean.
June Diane Raphael [01:01:54] Listen, he.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:01:55] Are we taking this seriously? Why are we all like, huh? You know, that's a good question. No it's not. No, this is not a fictional universe.
June Diane Raphael [01:02:08] This is a teacher who pulls out a student and tells him in the beginning of the class that he's got to start studying science because he's going to lose his looks as he gets older.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:02:22] That kid's name is Jake, and if he did not look like the spitting image of Jake Ryan in 16 Candles, I was like, whoa, whoa whoa. Who's this hunk?
Paul Scheer [01:02:34] I also like that he like, is like, you're an attractive guy, but you're going to be ugly. Like, he compliments him and he negs him.
June Diane Raphael [01:02:42] Totally negs him.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:02:42] I think they're hooking up.
Paul Scheer [01:02:45] What's your name in your question?
Audience Member [01:02:46] My name is Clint. I was actually going to talk about him negging his student. But one other fun fact the voice of Joey was M. Night Shyamalan, and that's really just.
June Diane Raphael [01:02:55] I said to Paul, where was he? Where was he?
Jason Mantzoukas [01:02:57] Because he's. Oh, he's like a real Hitchcock for the modern age.
Paul Scheer [01:03:01] So that blows apart our theory that it is. Well Johnny Legs yeah. All right. There we go. Yes. Your question?
Audience Member [01:03:11] I'm Stephanie. My question is so, Night Shyamalan was credited with multiple parts writer, director, and producer. So if your task.
Paul Scheer [01:03:20] And actor. Joey.
June Diane Raphael [01:03:22] Voice actor.
Paul Scheer [01:03:23] Joey.
Audience Member [01:03:25] So if you're tasked with Fuck, Marry, kill: M. Night the writer, M. Night The director and the producer, what would you do?
Paul Scheer [01:03:35] Well, I can jump in on this and say this. This is the weird thing about this movie. There are sequences in it that are really well directed.
June Diane Raphael [01:03:42] I agree.
Paul Scheer [01:03:43] But the movie isn't good, so I'm going to. I would say you're going to marry that director because the director has a lot of potential. You're going to fuck Joey because clearly Joey fucks.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:03:53] Oh, yeah.
Paul Scheer [01:03:56] Joey goes out for tiramisu. I don't know if Joey fucks.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:04:01] Don't mind if I tiramis-do.
Paul Scheer [01:04:03] Do And I think you have to kill the writer. And again, I don't want to bring up. I don't want to bring up that. Yes, I auditioned for Old, and I didn't get it. And they brought me back three times. And the third time it was just "So-and-so. Your papers here." That was it. And I couldn't even get that.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:04:25] Oh, wow.
Paul Scheer [01:04:27] I've talked about it. All right. Well, clearly we have opinions about this movie, but there are other people out there with different opinions. It is now time for second opinions.
Audience Member [01:04:41] Hi, I'm Daniel. This movie sitting in my shopping cart. Some people hate it, but it's closest to my heart. Got killer bushes and crazy grandmas. Shyamalan mixes a romcom with drama. Five stars. Five stars. Mowers on heads. Five stars. Five stars. Five stars. Yeah. That guy's dead. Whooo! Mark Wahlberg pretends to have brains, but he talks to plastic plants is totally insane. Why is he so worried about the bees? Instead he should be more worried about the fucking trees? Five stars. Five Stars. Is what I gave. Five stars. Five stars. Haters, behave.
Paul Scheer [01:05:29] I love it. Great job. Excellent job. Second opinions from Amazon. Average rating of this film. Four out of five stars.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:05:40] Nope.
Paul Scheer [01:05:42] 5800 reviews.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:05:45] I feel like this is universally regarded as poor.
Paul Scheer [01:05:49] I agree.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:05:50] So four out of five is wild.
Paul Scheer [01:05:51] 64% are five star reviews. 8% are one star reviews. Retired Rosie writes "I watched The Happening years ago and found it thought provoking. Kind of like The Planet Strikes Back. My 11 year old grandson was tearing leaves off a tree, and I told him about the movie. We rented it and we watched it together. He liked it. Time will tell if it's one he'll remember as I did. Dot dot dot."
Jason Mantzoukas [01:06:36] Oh, wow. That ellipsis at the end makes me feel like there's more to come.
June Diane Raphael [01:06:41] This is a confession.
Paul Scheer [01:06:45] Poppied writes, "Love the director. Can't spell his name, but he's my favorite writer and director and producer and sometimes actor. I like this movie. Five stars. I love horror movies!" And, this one was one that concerned me. From Lokitra B. She writes "This movie brightens my day. I usually watch it online for free once a week, but my laptop isn't working."
Jason Mantzoukas [01:07:21] I'm so sorry. Is this movie available for free? Because I rented it.
Paul Scheer [01:07:27] Yep.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:07:28] For $3.99.
Paul Scheer [01:07:30] I bought it.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:07:30] Discounted from $4.99.
Paul Scheer [01:07:34] "I usually watch it online for free once a week, but my laptop isn't working, so I bought it from here and the picture was a lot better." The title of the review. "The picture is a lot better. Five stars." And. This one. It's weird. "All this Covid 19 craziness reminded me of this movie so far. Be fun for a rewatch. Thumbs up emoji five stars."
Jason Mantzoukas [01:08:06] You know what that just reminds me of? Because it's Covid and masks and all that, is when they cut to the two old women knitting in World War Two gas masks. I was like, how come more people just don't have gas masks? How come Jeremy Strong and his whole like, yeah, how come the military wasn't given gas masks?
Paul Scheer [01:08:25] Good question. He was too concerned about carrying that gun.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:08:29] Okay, don't give me soft applause for that. I'm not looking for your tender applause. Are you fucking weirdos? Good job, Jason. Good job. Don't pity me.
Paul Scheer [01:08:52] Two little, facts here that I thought were interesting was that the DVD contains a deleted scene of a piano recital that becomes so tragic that it almost gave the movie an NC 17 rating.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:09:06] Please tell me, we do we have that?
Paul Scheer [01:09:09] I wish. Sorry.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:09:11] Somebody please find and post that online.
Paul Scheer [01:09:18] I'm sure it's online. We can find it. This movie, the budget, budget was $60 million. Opening weekend with 30 million domestic. Grossed 64. Worldwide grossed 163 million. Came out 2008, The Big Year, Dark Knight, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal skull, Kung Fu Panda. This movie came in 45 of the top 200 movies, and it beat the Hottie and the Naughty, The Love Guru, Punisher: WarZone, and 88 minutes. So there you go.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:09:51] It should have beaten none of those. Which is shocking because one of those was The Hottie and the Naughty.
Paul Scheer [01:09:59] I liked the tagline of this movie. "We sensed it. We've seen the signs. Now it's happening." In the village. But don't tell the lady in the water.
June Diane Raphael [01:10:16] Got it, got it.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:10:17] Do you have the clip of the guy letting himself get run over by the lawnmower?
Paul Scheer [01:10:22] I don't, I don't have that one.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:10:23] Just. That really made me laugh. It was so funny just how blasé he was, like, I'm gonna lie down in front of this industrial lawnmower until it chops me to bits.
Paul Scheer [01:10:38] It was like. It was like daring the movie to show it. All right. Would you recommend this movie, Jason and June, what do you got?
June Diane Raphael [01:10:45] Yes, it is absolutely worth. Yeah, I would yeah, I would, I would in the context of like watch it for this for the podcast. And also it is something to see. It's a nice 90 minutes.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:11:02] I was shocked when it was done.
June Diane Raphael [01:11:04] Also. I mean I watched this in the theater and I saw it again today.
Paul Scheer [01:11:09] Who did you see it with? Did you have dessert after?
June Diane Raphael [01:11:13] I don't remember, but I. I remember thinking this, watching it in the theater that it was the non twist was so shocking and thinking, oh it can't be, it can't be the trees, it can't be the wind. It just can't be. And then it was. And they reveal that it's the trees in the wind so early on. And to sustain that for the whole movie it is something to see. Yeah, it is something to see.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:11:39] I don't disagree. And in the context that you're saying I agree for the show, absolutely. Watch it because it's fucked up. I'm shocked we've never done it before. Is this the third Night Shyamalan movie we've done? Fourth? So Last Airbender, Old and this for sure are three that we've done. This to me falls closer to Last Airbender than Old in the sense that yes, I enjoyed Old more. This felt to me like confounding on almost every level. And I mean it when I say when the movie ended, I was like, oh no, no, no, I think we're just starting act three where we're going to find out what the what this whole thing was about. And it said, no, it's like he sends Jess off to his first day of school. Zooey Deschanel is waiting for the results of her pregnancy test. And then when she's like, yes, I'm pregnant, they have this shot where it's they do a lot of scenes where anything that would have required a heavy emotional component. Also, Mark Wahlberg and Jess having their moment of tenderness off to the side. It's shot way far away, like, and they're over there. Like she's like waiting for him and she's like 100ft away from him. He walks to her camera, stays put, and then she's like. And that is the like that's supposed to be like the catharsis of the movie. Like they did it. They have they do not talk to each other at the end of the movie, like, so that we can hear it's private, but no, they should be dead.
Paul Scheer [01:13:16] That's a a sign of a good director after you've seen a couple of these scenes. You know what? Maybe less is more. Keep them off cameras. But just. No, this might be my favorite M. Night movie, simply because there is such an earnestness to it, and it's so confounding on so many levels. And every character is full of bad choices, and there's no one to root for, and there's nothing to be excited about, and there's no resolution. And just simply, we're just like, it's like it's.
June Diane Raphael [01:13:48] Happening to us.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:13:50] But even The Happening, what The Happening? It makes no sense.
Paul Scheer [01:13:58] It's like, you know, it's like you, you went over to your neighbor's house to borrow something, and then all of a sudden they've taken you up into the attic and you don't know why you're there.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:14:09] Wait is this from your book?
Paul Scheer [01:14:11] Maybe. No, I just, I really, I mean, I, I God damn it. What? No. That is forever the best moment of all movies ever in my mind.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:14:23] Everybody should know quotes from this movie like this is abso. You're right in the sense this absolutely should be baked into the cultural lexicon of absurd things the way that, like Showgirls is.
June Diane Raphael [01:14:37] Yes.
Paul Scheer [01:14:38] Look, I gotta say, this movie is total cheddar for me. Thank you everybody, good night! Thank you so much!
Jason Mantzoukas [01:14:50] Eat shit, LA!
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