Chris O'Donnell, Bill Paxton, and Robin Tunney star in the 2000 mountain adventure thriller Vertical Limit, a movie where most climbers either get cut loose or explode. Laci Mosley (Scam Goddess) joins Paul and Jason to discuss all the leaky bombs, Scott Glenn's murder mission, Bill Paxton turning into Sméagol, creating a rescue flare out of human blood, why you shouldn't feast on BBQ before climbing K2, and so much more. Buy our Avaryl memorial fundraiser shirt HERE. 100% of proceeds will be donated to the Breast Cancer Research Foundation.
Chris O'Donnell, Bill Paxton, and Robin Tunney star in the 2000 mountain adventure thriller Vertical Limit, a movie where most climbers either get cut loose or explode. Laci Mosley (Scam Goddess) joins Paul and Jason to discuss all the leaky bombs, Scott Glenn's murder mission, Bill Paxton turning into Sméagol, creating a rescue flare out of human blood, why you shouldn't feast on BBQ before climbing K2, and so much more.
Buy our Avaryl memorial fundraiser shirt HERE. 100% of proceeds will be donated to the Breast Cancer Research Foundation.
[00:00:00] Paul Scheer: Trim that beard and kiss your frozen dead wife on the lips, 'cause we saw Vertical Limit, so you know what that means.
[00:00:11] Music: [Intro Song]
[00:00:13] Paul Scheer: Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to How Did This Get Made, I am Paul Scheer, and we are in the Summer of Extreme. Today, we are talking about the 2000 film Vertical Limit, which has a 49% on the Tomatometer.
[00:00:30] And what is it about? Well, you have, uh, Chris O'Donnell and Robin Tunney, who are brother and sister, who lose their father in an extreme climbing accident. Well, actually, uh, Chris O'Donnell, uh, cuts a cord and lets his father plummet to the ground. Now, years later, Chris and Robin are estranged, but they meet back up at the base of K2, where billionaire Bill Paxton is coming to climb the mountain.
[00:01:00] But guess what? He is not a good guy. He's actually a very bad guy, and he decides to climb the mountain even though being warned it would be too dangerous. Now he's trapped up there with Chris O'Donnell's sister. So what happens? Chris O'Donnell mounts a rescue expedition with a guy who kind of feels like Rambo of the mountains, Scott Glenn, Montgomery Wick, who suspects Vaughn murdered his wife on a previous K2 climbing attempt.
[00:01:31] Oh yeah, and part of his rescue plan is that all the climbers must have unstable canisters of explosive nitroglycerin strapped to their back. Boy, oh boy. This is a movie. Uh, please welcome my co-host, Mr. Jason Mantzoukas. Ugh. Jason, how are you?
[00:01:47] Jason Mantzoukas: It's, it's over two hours.
[00:01:48] Paul Scheer: Two hours.
[00:01:49] Jason Mantzoukas: I started watching it at 8:00 this morning.
[00:01:52] Paul Scheer: Oh, God.
[00:01:52] Jason Mantzoukas: I, I, I don't know what's going on. I think I've lost my mind.
[00:01:57] Paul Scheer: Well, I'm glad to be able to talk to you, but I'm also thrilled to talk to our very special guest today. She's a comedian and actor who you might know from TV shows like Going Dutch, iCarly, and A Black Lady Sketch Show. She's also the award-winning host of Scam Goddess, the hit podcast and TV show about fraud and all those who practice in it.
[00:02:17] Jason, you and I have been on her show. I'm of course talking about the Scam Goddess herself, Laci Mosley. Welcome, Laci.
[00:02:24] Laci Mosley: Hello, Paul, Jason. Thank you for having me.
[00:02:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Ah. Well, well, well, last time we met, we were t- together guesting on your show.
[00:02:32] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:02:32] Laci Mosley: Yes, we were. And-
[00:02:34] Jason Mantzoukas: Talking about scams.
[00:02:35] Laci Mosley: Now, now listen. Y'all, y'all tricked me a little bit, speaking of scams, because I can't believe y'all got me watching this white ass movie during Black History Month Part Two. That's what we call June, Black History Month Part Two: Electric Boogaloo.
[00:02:47] Jason Mantzoukas: This movie is a scam.
[00:02:48] Laci Mosley: And y'all got me watching these white people climb this mountain.
[00:02:52] Jason Mantzoukas: Honestly, like, climbing a mountain is a white person scam.
[00:02:56] Paul Scheer: Oh, why? Why do you ne- need to do it. We don't need to do it. Let the mountain stay there. We don't need to get on top.
[00:03:03] Laci Mosley: Why are y'all on this people's mountain?
[00:03:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Ugh. Well, Lacy, you, you, you don't know this, but for reasons that are left, uh, unknown for the rest of us, we are covering extreme sports movies-
[00:03:15] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:03:15] Jason Mantzoukas: ... this summer.
[00:03:16] Laci Mosley: Okay.
[00:03:16] Jason Mantzoukas: So people who love to parachute, people who love to do all sorts of nonsense, and this qualifies 100%.
[00:03:25] Paul Scheer: Well, I would also say it would also be a very white thing to do extreme things. Like, I feel like most, like, very dangerous, like, "I'm jumping off of a satellite from space into Earth," they're always these white people that are doing this. So I would say that this is a we're, we're constantly-
[00:03:43] Laci Mosley: Yeah, being a, being a Black woman is enough of an extreme sport for me. So I've just never felt the need. But I'm sure if I was a white man, like, I would be jumping off of everything, you know? I would-
[00:03:53] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, yeah.
[00:03:53] Laci Mosley: ... I would be just like Free Solo man, just climbing shit nobody asked me to climb.
[00:03:57] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, yeah.
[00:03:58] Laci Mosley: You know? Uh- Just for the hell of it.
[00:04:00] Paul Scheer: This, this movie, you know, at first I thought, "Is this movie successful?" Uh, not really in United States, but it did gross 215 million worldwide.
[00:04:09] Laci Mosley: Oh.
[00:04:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[00:04:09] Paul Scheer: So this worked outside of the uS.
[00:04:12] Laci Mosley: In 2000s money.
[00:04:13] Paul Scheer: Yeah. It is a movie that had some success. It was directed by the same guy who directed GoldenEye and, uh, Casino Royale, so a good, you know, good lineage here. But I also could tell that this is a movie that was put through, like, the 2000 wringer because it is, it's stupid. I mean, it is-
[00:04:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, it's also, and like you said earlier, it's so dumb, it's not... The... You could see the meeting where they were like, "Ugh, it's not enough that they have to rescue them. It's not enough that there's an avalanche. What if every climber had to have, like, a t- a bomb strapped to their che- like, like Speed." You know, like, Speed was such a big thing. There's a bomb on the bus. What if every climber has a bomb on their back?
[00:04:55] Laci Mosley: This is an executive's fault for sure, Jason.
[00:04:57] Paul Scheer: Oh, yes.
[00:04:57] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:04:57] Laci Mosley: They brought in a simple movie-
[00:04:59] Jason Mantzoukas: Big time.
[00:04:59] Laci Mosley: ... about rescuing a sister, and they were like-
[00:05:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:05:01] Laci Mosley: ... "Okay, but Speed's been doing great numbers, guys. We can't get Keanu but we can still at least put a bomb in here somewhere."
[00:05:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:05:08] Laci Mosley: "A leaky bomb."
[00:05:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Now, that's the-
[00:05:10] Paul Scheer: Oh, by the way.
[00:05:11] Jason Mantzoukas: ... and the bombs leak. That's the other thing, is that it's not enough that they have canisters of nitro. If you put them in the sun, they leak.
[00:05:21] Paul Scheer: They, yeah. Well, they ex- they explode in the sun so at a certain point as they're climbing Everest they gotta go find some shade.
[00:05:27] Jason Mantzoukas: They always need to find shade.
[00:05:28] Paul Scheer: Because, you know, a lot of trees on Everest, a lot of ways to get away from the, the bright sun.
[00:05:34] Jason Mantzoukas: Why was there nitro up there? Ca- uh, does any- w- I'm sure it was given a, a bit of exposition at some point. Does anybody remember why there was a tent full of absolute high-level explosives?
[00:05:47] Laci Mosley: So I actually looked this up. So in 1999, Pakistan and India were in a real conflict.
[00:05:53] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:05:54] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:05:54] Laci Mosley: And so because the Pakistanis were, like, hidden up in the mountain, like, they had some military people up there, like, just blowing, randomly blowing up India, like, every now and then, um, they also had this explosive that they were planning-
[00:06:08] Jason Mantzoukas: I see.
[00:06:09] Laci Mosley: To use on India.
[00:06:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay.
[00:06:11] Laci Mosley: That they weren't storing very well 'cause like-
[00:06:13] Jason Mantzoukas: So it was a it was a military weapon.
[00:06:15] Laci Mosley: Yeah, it was a military weapon.
[00:06:15] Jason Mantzoukas: It wasn't part of the climbers gear.
[00:06:17] Laci Mosley: No.
[00:06:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay, I guess that, that makes sense, yeah.
[00:06:19] Paul Scheer: This movie does touch on some of the political climate in such a like, careless way.
[00:06:25] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, yeah.
[00:06:25] Paul Scheer: I mean, there are, there are moments in the-
[00:06:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Like it's not even, it's not even a B or a C story.
[00:06:30] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:06:31] Jason Mantzoukas: It, it, uh, the political, uh, uh, environment between India and Pakistan not, not barely scratched the surface of.
[00:06:38] Paul Scheer: They basically just show it as, like, this is war every day, we're just gonna fire on these guy- Like, it is a D plot in this movie that there is a constant war going on I think just to get you to this nitro. When you get to the nitro, and we haven't even talked about the open, but when you get to the nitro- Uh ... they go in this tent and you would think, "Okay, well, it's nitroglycerin. They're all... You know, it's kept well." No, they're- Mm ... they are leaking in the tent. Nitro is leaking. It leaks on a man's foot.
[00:07:05] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:07:05] Paul Scheer: Which which-
[00:07:07] Jason Mantzoukas: It leaks on a man's foot and then they take his boot off, throw the boot as if it's like a grenade and the boot just blows.
[00:07:14] Laci Mosley: Yes.
[00:07:15] Paul Scheer: And they... A- and by the way- They don't show you them taking off his boot because I'm gonna bet that taking off the boot would've been the more extreme moment. If that thing is a literal grenade like if n- the, the, the movie posits that if nitro drips on anything, it becomes a massive weapon. Like-
[00:07:35] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes ...
[00:07:35] Paul Scheer: Uh, you know, it could blow up a house. Uh, but they don't show-
[00:07:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Even if it's just thrown away into the snow, you know what I mean? It's not like it doesn't need a- it doesn't need an accelerant of some kind. It doesn't need fire. It doesn't need a, a, a, you know, any kind of a wick or anything like that. It's just when it needs to blow, either in the sun or if you toss it, it's gonna blow.
[00:07:58] Paul Scheer: Okay, so let, let's talk about this opening because this opening is-
[00:08:02] Laci Mosley: Ugh.
[00:08:02] Paul Scheer: Absolutely wild, right? It... We start off on a, a beautiful CGI bird, an eagle.
[00:08:08] Laci Mosley: Beautiful.
[00:08:08] Paul Scheer: Uh .
[00:08:11] Jason Mantzoukas: Beautiful. A beautiful CGI bird.
[00:08:13] Laci Mosley: That bird was so fake, it was insulting.
[00:08:15] Paul Scheer: This movie, this movie reeks of fake at every given point. You're like, they were never on a mountain. This is all on a sound stage. They're hanging off that, that rock in the beginning. I'm like, "Oh, no one, no one is a climber here. No one is out. This is all safe on a sound stage."
[00:08:30] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. But it really, it looks cutting edge for the time when you think about that being 25 years ago.
[00:08:38] Paul Scheer: Yeah, sure.
[00:08:38] Jason Mantzoukas: You're like, "Wow. Wow, this looks terrible."
[00:08:41] Paul Scheer: Fake. Fake as hell. And you get into this moment where I guess- A bunch of climbers are climbing the same mountain in the same trajectory and someone's backpack falls off above our family, the dad, the son, and the daughter, and that backpack sets off a chain of events. Now, first of all, uh, I did do a little bit of research on this.
[00:09:05] This movie is, uh, hated in the climbing community for so many reasons. Oh. Uh, just first of all, everything that they do is completely wrong. Uh, the terms, everything, but the one thing that they really stick on is nobody's backpack is falling off on a climb. Like- ... backpacks are not dropping from the sky.
[00:09:27] Laci Mosley: And wiping out everyone on the wall simultaneously.
[00:09:30] Paul Scheer: Like, just below.
[00:09:31] Laci Mosley: Everyone below. I had to Google some climbing things, 'cause I was like, "Can you climb and be... You have to be attached to everybody in the s-?" Like-
[00:09:39] Paul Scheer: Everyone's attached.
[00:09:40] Laci Mosley: I was like, "I don't think you have to do that." Like... Also- i, it took me a second to realize that they were a family. 'Cause once we got- Right ... from, like, the terrible bird, we have that conversation between, like, the main dude, the m- I don't know his name.
[00:09:53] Paul Scheer: The dad. Right?
[00:09:54] Laci Mosley: No, not the dad. Or, Chris O'Donnell. The son. Chris O'Donnell. Yeah.
[00:09:56] Jason Mantzoukas: Chris o'Donnell.
[00:09:57] Laci Mosley: The son.
[00:09:57] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:09:57] Laci Mosley: And then I love that girl from The Craft. Um-
[00:10:00] Paul Scheer: Yes. Rob- Robin Tunney.
[00:10:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Robin Tunney.
[00:10:01] Paul Scheer: She's great.
[00:10:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Boy, one of my, one of my true crushes from that era.
[00:10:05] Laci Mosley: Where did she go? 'Cause she was popping. This was her time. Yeah. And, like-
[00:10:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, she's around. She, I feel like she ends up, I feel like, on a, like, a CBS procedural for years or something.
[00:10:13] Paul Scheer: The Mentalist.
[00:10:14] Jason Mantzoukas: The Mentalist.
[00:10:20] Laci Mosley: Oh. That's a good check.
[00:10:20] Paul Scheer: Yes, for a very long time. Yeah. Stay mentalizing, queen. Prison Break and The Mentalist. She was putting in some major seasons on that, yeah.
[00:10:24] Laci Mosley: She's great.
[00:10:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:10:24] Laci Mosley: But in the beginning, when they're on this mountain, first of all, they're hanging off like they don't got a care in the world. Aren't you supposed to be climbing this? And then they're, like- ... talking to each other, and they're talking about songs, and they're singing songs to each other and having to guess the songs. I thought they were in a relationship. It took me a second-
[00:10:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:10:40] Laci Mosley: ... before I was like, "Oh, y'all are siblings?" 'Cause that's what-
[00:10:42] Paul Scheer: Lacey
[00:10:42] Laci Mosley: it was giving.
[00:10:43] Paul Scheer: I had to check it multiple times, because there's a moment where they get together in base camp, and I'm like, "Is he gonna kiss her?" Like- Yeah ... are they in love? They are acting like they are in love. Like, no one gave them the memo that they were brother and sister, I feel like. There, there is-
[00:10:57] Laci Mosley: Right.
[00:10:57] Jason Mantzoukas: Or I feel like they were given the note, you know, like, "We don't really have any, like, sex relationships in this movie. So really, your love is gonna have to carry the whole movie." "What you guys have, now, it's not incest, but make sure you let us know you love each other." "You know, you guys are best friends."
[00:11:17] Like, it is, this whole scene feels like s- like, I feel like it's day one, and they all just met. You know? Like it, it feels so... And they are supposed to be a father and two children. They all also appear to be, I'm gonna say, six years apart from each other, total.
[00:11:34] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:11:35] Jason Mantzoukas: The dad looks like he's the same age as Chris O'Donnell. It's crazy
[00:11:39] Paul Scheer: The only thing that makes a dad a dad is that he's carrying a whistle on the mountain to yell at other climbers. Like, I don't think that that is a thing. I don't think that anyone blows a whistle like, "Hey, hey. Listen up, listen up, guys. You're doing a bad job."
[00:11:52] Like, he's like a traffic cop on a mountain.
[00:11:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:11:55] Paul Scheer: Uh, which I just felt like it was such a, like, a funny, weird specific. And again, yes, I did Google it. That is not a thing. No one is blowing whistles on the mountain. Uh, you, you can't communicate that way. But you're, you're connected to this family. You love this family, and then boom they kill the dad.
[00:12:12] Jason Mantzoukas: Sure.
[00:12:12] Paul Scheer: They kill the dad-
[00:12:14] Jason Mantzoukas: Sleazy.
[00:12:14] Paul Scheer: ... in this moment. When they kill this dad in the open-
[00:12:19] Laci Mosley: Wow.
[00:12:19] Paul Scheer: ... I was shook. I was like, "Oh, wow, okay. This movie is going for it."
[00:12:24] Laci Mosley: I cackled, and I know that is not the response that they wanted to elicit. But there's this big moment where he's like, "My sister, my father. My sister, my father." "Should I cut my father loose and save my sister, or we all die? Oh." Back and forth. And it's just zoom-in close-ups of their face, and then they zoom out to that horrible CGI, and then they zoom back in on the whole horrible close-up on their faces- ... nowhere in the same universe. And then when the dad, like, when he cuts the rope finally, I'm so pissed.
[00:12:52] Like, the cutting of the rope was the tension moment.
[00:12:55] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:12:55] Laci Mosley: Maybe even seeing him fall. I would've taken a corny like, "I love you," before the last little piece of the rope, like, twinges away, and then he falls to his death. Instead, we get a smash cut to a body, like, thud- Thud ... on the ground.
[00:13:07] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:13:08] Laci Mosley: I was like, "That's how y'all kill the dad? Y'all go... Is this the Looney Tunes?" It was. Y'all was like, "Meep, meep. The dad's dead." What? And now we're moving on. Now we do the time jump?
[00:13:17] Paul Scheer: And by the way, I thought the dad was very-
[00:13:18] Jason Mantzoukas: I would, I would've loved it if Road Runner was there.
[00:13:23] Paul Scheer: Or the dad, when he smashes into the ground, just pulls out a sign, says, "Ouch."
[00:13:27] Laci Mosley: Right.
[00:13:27] Paul Scheer: Uh, but the dad was also very close to the side of that mountain. I was like, at, at a certain point, couldn't he just, like, lock back in? Like, or grab onto the side? Like, it felt like-
[00:13:36] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, that's what they were trying to do. They were trying to get her to lock back in, 'cause she was closest to the mountain.
[00:13:41] Paul Scheer: Oh, my God.
[00:13:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, no, this was crazy. Here's what I will say, and I'm, and I'm... This, I'm guessing, is based on, there's an incredible story and a documentary about two climbers who are trying to climb a mountain. One of them gets injured. They get separated. They're still connected by one big, long line. They get separated in a storm, and one man is hurt, and the other man doesn't know, and he has to cut him loose.
[00:14:06] Oh. And so, but the man who is cut... But both of them fall and survive, but have to find independently their ways down the mountain. This is one of the most incredible documentaries I've ever seen, and it's called Touching the Void. Um-
[00:14:21] Paul Scheer: Oh, yes.
[00:14:21] Jason Mantzoukas: ... and it, it feels very similar to this setup scene of, like, a, the only way for me to survive is to kill this other person, and, and what a f- what a mind fuck that is.
[00:14:33] Paul Scheer: A- and, and I feel like that's a great way to start the movie. I would think that we come back in a more fulfilling way at the end. We'll talk about how it does, and it just seems like we'll just do it again at the end.
[00:14:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:14:43] Paul Scheer: Like, and for no real reason. The, the thing that- I am kind of blown away by is this, the beginning of the movie tells you everything you need to know.
[00:14:52] You're gonna hear a lot of screaming, a lot of grunting, and a lot of slipping. 'Cause this movie is all about people slipping. Huh, huh, ah, huh, uh. Oh. Like, there is so much needless yelling.
[00:15:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Every single character in the movie at some point hangs in midair. Hang- Everybody. Everybody hangs in midair either off of an ice ax, off of a, a, a harness. They are constant-
[00:15:18] Laci Mosley: Helicopter.
[00:15:19] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes, yes.
[00:15:20] Laci Mosley: They are constantly hanging in midair. And then I'm thinking if y'all are experienced climbers, don't y'all all know you're not supposed to be kicking when you hanging like that? Oh, yeah. Like, you're actually adding more ment- momentum. You're making this looser. You're making the rope loose.
[00:15:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:15:33] Laci Mosley: And it's just down to the person at the bottom just kicking away like they running in place. Like, sir, what, what are you doing?
[00:15:42] Paul Scheer: My favorite moment in this film is a character that doesn't come back, but we see the dad crash, done, cut to a couple years later. Now we're in a snow blind. We meet, like, Chris O'Donnell's friend, and this guy, all he does is slip and fall and break his leg real bad. Done. That's it.
[00:15:58] Laci Mosley: Done.
[00:15:59] Paul Scheer: Like this.
[00:16:00] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:16:00] Paul Scheer: Like, basically, I don't know if they need to, like, prove to us that mountains are dangerous.
[00:16:04] Laci Mosley: Constantly.
[00:16:05] Paul Scheer: But no, con- like, everyone, nobody can stand up on a mountain for more than five to 10 minutes in this movie without-
[00:16:11] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, they feel, I feel like they were pitching the movie and they were like, "You don't understand. So many people die on Everest every," or whatever, K2, whatever. K2. "Every year, you know? I- I- it's dangerous," blah, blah. But I feel like somebody must have been like, "You know what? Uh, it sounds kinda boring." You know what I mean? Like, it's, it doesn't sound action-packed enough. They, "You have to understand, the mountain is the shark in Jaws."
[00:16:34] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:16:34] Jason Mantzoukas: Every, it's a you don't know when it's gonna come get you. And I'm like, it, I'm pretty sure I know. You have to, like, slip and fall. That, the assistant who slips and falls and breaks his leg sl- is, like, in a cartoon.
[00:16:47] Laci Mosley: Yeah.
[00:16:47] Jason Mantzoukas: This movie is all silly goofball cartoon gags, but, like, off of the edge of a mountain. It is like Wile E. Coyote running off the edge of the mountain and being like, Womp.
[00:17:00] Laci Mosley: I also don't understand why he couldn't just live at the military. The whole National Geographic plot seemed so unnecessary.
[00:17:07] Paul Scheer: No.
[00:17:07] Laci Mosley: And then they had to kill, uh, or his, his assistant had to trip and fall on the rock. And you know, for what? Just so they could go down to the base so he could get medical care, so then he could see that his sister was here, so they could... Like, I feel like we could've cut out so much shoe leather.
[00:17:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, please.
[00:17:21] Laci Mosley: This movie's way too long.
[00:17:22] Paul Scheer: Like- Oh, so long, and nothing of-
[00:17:24] Jason Mantzoukas: But we got to see those snow leopards play.
[00:17:28] Paul Scheer: He's in that snow blind. Um, here's what I'll say about your original pitch, Jason. Like, that to climb K2, it takes about 60 to 75 days. Like, two months. And this movie seemingly, if I don't know anything, if I'm not researching anything, it seems like you can pretty much nail K2 in about 12 hours.
[00:17:49] Laci Mosley: Yeah.
[00:17:49] Paul Scheer: Like like, and that's, and that's the premise of the film is like, "Oh, yeah, we're gonna go up real quick. We're gonna, we're gonna not only are we gonna go up real quick, we're gonna get it and time it with a flight going overhead." And then I was thinking, how many airlines are flying over K2? That also seems incredibly dangerous. And for them to wave, the flight would have to be very low.
[00:18:12] Laci Mosley: Yeah, it's not 35,000 feet, babe.
[00:18:14] Paul Scheer: Yeah, no, commercial airliners aren't flying in between, in between K2. Like, just like, "Yeah, yeah, we'll get down low." It's not like they're, they're landing down there. And so the whole movie is like they've been up there for 12 hours, and technically it would take them about, I don't even know. I don't even know where they are on the mountain, but they seem to get everywhere by helicopters very easily.
[00:18:33] Laci Mosley: Yeah.
[00:18:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, except for the time the helicopter almost chops that, that one woman, bandana woman in half.
[00:18:40] Laci Mosley: Can we talk about how much bandana woman suffered?
[00:18:43] Paul Scheer: Oh, I love bandana woman.
[00:18:44] Laci Mosley: So before I get to bandana woman, I do have to say when the a- the helicopters were flying over, you do see this kind of like hippie encampment of like other like these, these are the salt of the earth white dude campers. We're not like them rich white dude campers.
[00:18:57] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:18:57] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:18:57] Laci Mosley: We are also on these people land that we don't need to be on, but we naked with our with our penises out in the snow. So you know we love the mountain, and we really-
[00:19:04] Paul Scheer: They love pissing on the mountain. Yeah. They love it.
[00:19:08] Laci Mosley: They tre- they treat the mountain with respect, okay?
[00:19:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, they're the mountain dogs.
[00:19:12] Laci Mosley: They, they make some kind of piss moonshine and and they love the mountain real bad.
[00:19:16] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, they're doing like... They created a still to make moonshine like they're, they're Hawkeye in MASH. It's crazy.
[00:19:23] Laci Mosley: So you got your good white dudes who love the mountain, and then you got your evil white dudes who wanna get up the mountain to make a commercial. And that commercial is worth our lives.
[00:19:33] And like, then bandana woman, who's just like the nurse, they're like, okay, bandana woman went through it. She was sexually harassed. She- Yeah ... and then the man who was being creepy to her, one of the mountain, uh, the, you know, Native white mountain people, he... They were like, "We climbing this mountain, and you gotta go with the man who's the creepiest to you. Also, you gonna fall off the mountain a few times." "And, and a helicopter almost gonna chop your ass up while we try to get these other two men on the mountain." Like, this lady went through it.
[00:20:05] Jason Mantzoukas: And, and she's... At one point they are like, "Why are you doing this?" And she's like, "Obviously the money. I want off of this mountain." She's... The only reason she's doing it is to get away from these people, is to get enough money to get away from these fucking maniacs.
[00:20:21] Laci Mosley: They trapped this lady on this mountain, and she's trying to pay for her freedom.
[00:20:24] Jason Mantzoukas: She does not appear to be one of the climbers. She's, she's trapped.
[00:20:29] Paul Scheer: I don't know what, how they got everybody up there because it, again, it does seem like it would be tricky to get everybody up to this base camp.
[00:20:35] But meanwhile, the rich guy, he's bringing up like a full barbecue. People are having like a 4th of July party up there. They're all drinking at high altitude, which just even from going to Colorado I know that that's not a good idea. So th- like this is not, this is not a good vibe up there.
[00:20:53] Laci Mosley: And barbecue? Don't y'all have to shit in bags and carry your own poop? Y'all about to have some crazy poop going up the mountain. I don't want no rib poop when I'm going up the mountain. We need to be eating Wheaty Bread.
[00:21:02] Paul Scheer: I don't wanna climb K2 with a belly full of rib.
[00:21:05] Jason Mantzoukas: I mean- I mean, like I've gotta, I've gotta guess that they're just... I mean, you can't be on the mountain like taking all your winter gear off to shit. I mean, are they just shitting in their pants?
[00:21:15] Paul Scheer: Oh, well, Jason, here's the thing. This mountain, very warm, 'cause these motherfuckers never cover their faces.
[00:21:21] Laci Mosley: Thank you.
[00:21:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Never.
[00:21:21] Paul Scheer: They are... Their, their faces are out and about.
[00:21:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Yep.
[00:21:25] Laci Mosley: Their jackets are thin
[00:21:26] Paul Scheer: Their jackets are off.
[00:21:27] Laci Mosley: Hell no. Like, why can I see your silhouette, bro? You are on a mountain.
[00:21:31] Paul Scheer: I'm like, "Put that hood up."
[00:21:32] Laci Mosley: But they were like, "They still gotta be sexy." They were like, "They still gotta be sexy. We need to see Bill Paxton's shoulders."
[00:21:37] Jason Mantzoukas: Exactly.
[00:21:37] Laci Mosley: We need to see those delts.
[00:21:38] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh.
[00:21:39] Paul Scheer: Bill, Bill Paxton, for the 12 hours that he is up there, and I love Bill Paxton-
[00:21:43] Laci Mosley: I do too. R.I.P.
[00:21:44] Paul Scheer: His beard seems to grow in thicker and richer. A- by the end of the movie, I'm like, "I don't think his beard is that thick."
[00:21:50] Jason Mantzoukas: How long have they been there? No.
[00:21:51] Paul Scheer: And we know it's only 12 hours. Like, he really... But, like, they, no one. Bill Paxton's in a, i- in a, uh, like, underground, in a snow cave-in, and his hood is down. He is, like, his jacket is slightly unzipped. I would be zipping every part of me up. These guys are fine.
[00:22:08] Jason Mantzoukas: And they would also be carrying, like, 100 pounds on their back.
[00:22:13] Laci Mosley: Yeah.
[00:22:13] Jason Mantzoukas: They would be ca- they would be carrying so much stuff, uh, that it's crazy that they're all just like, "Do, do-do, do-do, here we are hiking up to the, here we are summiting K2."
[00:22:24] Laci Mosley: In my fall Patagonia.
[00:22:26] Paul Scheer: Oh, my God.
[00:22:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Absurd. Truly, like, thank God I got my fleece.
[00:22:30] Paul Scheer: There's one- there's one moment where Scott Glenn says, "You look like shit," to Chris O'Donnell. I'm like, he actually looks great. Yeah. Like, Chris O'Donnell looks like he, he has been out on a va- like, a summer vacation. Like, he is glistening in that snow.
[00:22:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Honestly, if anybody looks like shit, it's Scott Glenn.
[00:22:46] Paul Scheer: Oh, Scott Glenn-
[00:22:47] Jason Mantzoukas: But thank God he's here ...
[00:22:49] Paul Scheer: Like, a Rambo guy- Thank God he's here ... who's kind of, like- Wick ... living, like-
[00:22:52] Jason Mantzoukas: Montgomery Wick
[00:22:54] Paul Scheer: Living off the grid, you know, and just waiting. I guess is he waiting for revenge, or does he just live at base camp for the hope to go find his wife?
[00:23:03] Jason Mantzoukas: He, I- I think it's that.
[00:23:05] Paul Scheer: Okay.
[00:23:05] Jason Mantzoukas: I think his wife disappeared on this mountain some years ago. He has been trying to find her ever since- I think is what the movie wants us to think-
[00:23:13] Paul Scheer: Okay.
[00:23:14] Jason Mantzoukas: ... is why he's there.
[00:23:15] Paul Scheer: And he, he makes a, a very weird choice to shave off his beard before he goes up, which also, I'd be like-
[00:23:22] Jason Mantzoukas: I thought that was strange.
[00:23:23] Laci Mosley: I was about to say that. Like, isn't that for warmth? What do you mean-
[00:23:25] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:23:26] Laci Mosley: ... you go, you have to shave and go out freshly shaven- ... pores open-
[00:23:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Why?
[00:23:30] Laci Mosley: ... to climb this snow-ass mountain.
[00:23:32] Jason Mantzoukas: I feel like that was, like, Scott Glenn showed up with a giant beard, and was like, "Yeah, this is perfect for the, like, the hermit, the mountain man, the guy." And they were like, "Yeah, Scott, we're gonna need you to shave that so we can tell who's who in the movie." And he's like, "But the beard will tell everybody that I'm me," you know?
[00:23:48] Paul Scheer: Nope.
[00:23:49] Jason Mantzoukas: I feel like they, they were like, "No, no, we don't want beards. No beards in the movie."
[00:23:53] Laci Mosley: He was trying to have his Oscar moment, and the girls were like- Oh "no, we need to see that mug. This movie is about sex." "The tightest jackets you've ever seen." Okay?
[00:24:02] Paul Scheer: They're f- like, they're in Nikes climbing. The, the thing that I love about a movie like this is, like, you know, Bill Paxton is likable. Like, when he gets off the thing he's kind of goofy, and you're like, "Okay, how can this guy be evil?"
[00:24:14] And they don't really even try to ratchet it. It just, like, goes from likable fun guy to insane person.
[00:24:20] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:24:20] Paul Scheer: Like, he go- where his turn to insanity is so quick that at a certain point I'm like- Is he gonna eat people?
[00:24:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:24:28] Paul Scheer: Because he's looking at people like "You can't get in my way." I'm like, "What's the end game? You can't get here alone."
[00:24:33] Jason Mantzoukas: And what you realize is this is the second time he's done this, because as the movie unfolds, you realize that he did the exact same thing with the party of climbers that Scott Glenn's wife was leading, and Bill Paxton sel- selfishly used all of the drug to keep himself alive, uh, and let everybody else die, you know? So he's a villain every step of the way. He- it's interesting, he's always cast, in many ways, as the rich villain, like in Titanic.
[00:25:04] Laci Mosley: Mm-hmm. Big love.
[00:25:05] Paul Scheer: I guess he's... Yeah.
[00:25:05] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, he's kind of always that rich, uh, except for what's... He's the inverse. Twister. He- it's Cary Elwes who's the rich villain, and he is, like, the s- almost the Scott Glenn, um, the, the real guy on the ground, you know?
[00:25:20] Laci Mosley: One thing about the movie, especially, like, you bringing up the documentary, you were talking about how that was really interesting about having to cut someone loose. Boy, oh, boy, is everybody ready to see a motherfucker die in this movie.
[00:25:31] Paul Scheer: Oh, yeah.
[00:25:31] Laci Mosley: Everybody's like, "Oh, they, they dying? Oh, kill them. Oh, their leg hurt? Good as dead. Oh, the avalanche happened, but we contacted them on the radio speaker? They still gonna die up there. We ain't helping them." No, every step of the way, everybody's trying to be like, "Okay. Well, we're just gonna kill you." What's the point of climbing with a partner if they're gonna let you die?
[00:25:49] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, and it really is, it's such a casual relationship to human life. You know? Uh, a- a- and b- and that's the thing is, too, the movie is, the movie is over two hours long which is t- to be clear, too long.
[00:26:01] Laci Mosley: 45 minutes could've been cut.
[00:26:01] Jason Mantzoukas: And, and part of the problem is they set up so many characters only to kill all of those characters.
[00:26:09] Laci Mosley: Not paying them off.
[00:26:10] Jason Mantzoukas: You know what I mean? Like, with barely any investment in them as people, you know? The brothers, uh, young Ben Mendelsohn, a, a young- a, a young Ben Mendelsohn in this movie, which I was so loved, loved seeing him, but, but boy, he's dead. See you later. Like, the, his brother, Cyril, "See you later, pal. You're dead." I was like, "Oh, I really wished we'd had either more character moments that were fun with some of these people, or we didn't spend so much time in the exposition set-up phase," because this movie would've felt a lot better at 90 minutes, you know?
[00:26:43] Paul Scheer: Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's a very simple idea. They just go out to do a rescue.
[00:26:48] Jason Mantzoukas: Super simple.
[00:26:48] Paul Scheer: And it's like, and they're with a, an evil guy, but I think that they're trying so hard to make it feel real, but it is so fake on so many levels. I mean, this is, you know, uh, the Free Solo guy, uh, Alex, uh, Hon- Honnold ... Honnold, right?
[00:27:03] Laci Mosley: Yeah.
[00:27:04] Paul Scheer: He has referred to this as the worst depiction of rock climbing in any film.
[00:27:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[00:27:09] Paul Scheer: He was like, "The least realistic." But I think that they're trying so hard to make you believe. And the other part of it is, it's like, yes, people die doing this, but it's not like- It's not like an action movie death. Like, people aren't just, like, flying off the sides of buildings. Like, people are losing toes-
[00:27:27] Laci Mosley: They're not exploding?
[00:27:28] Paul Scheer: and hands.
[00:27:28] Laci Mosley: They're not exploding?
[00:27:28] Paul Scheer: Right, it's just like why is it like people-
[00:27:28] Jason Mantzoukas: But I feel like that's why the explosives were introduced, because I feel like-
[00:27:34] Laci Mosley: Right ...
[00:27:34] Jason Mantzoukas: It wasn't dynamic enough.
[00:27:35] Laci Mosley: They were like, how ... They, they said ... What? Like, if you get edema in your lungs, it's like, that's not enough. Them coughing blood, not enough for us. It's enough for The Crown. They said, "Not enough for us. We need people exploding off of the mountain and as they fall."
[00:27:46] Paul Scheer: I mean, when they introduced the idea the only way they could do a good flare is by draining the blood out of a dead person's body and then shooting the flare up so the blood just explodes on the mountain, I was like, first of all, isn't a fla- like, the whole thing of a flare is it's gonna go up and we're gonna, we're we're gonna see where it is. But this is like, it was so, like, dark to drain them of blood.
[00:28:12] Laci Mosley: I knew it was gonna happen. I ... And, and I was like, "What is wrong with me?" Or maybe I just notice the patterns of this movie. But she was, like, trying to boil, like, ink from pens- and, like, some freezing cold ice, and the little flame was so low underneath. And he was like, "You gotta get it to a boil." I said, "They're about to cut that man open and use his blood."
[00:28:32] Jason Mantzoukas: Yep.
[00:28:32] Paul Scheer: A man who was killed. A man who was-
[00:28:34] Laci Mosley: The man was murdered-
[00:28:35] Paul Scheer: Murdered.
[00:28:36] Laci Mosley: ... by Bill Paxton's character.
[00:28:37] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. Like, murdered. They didn't just let him die as he was at. They, he ... Bill Paxton comes in, violently kills him.
[00:28:45] Paul Scheer: By, by putting, like, a- air in his veins, right?
[00:28:48] Laci Mosley: Yes.
[00:28:48] Paul Scheer: With, like, a very- Yeah ... violent way to go. Mm. They're already freezing up there. My favorite part of him is he's, like, the tour guide to the rich guy, and he's gonna, he's gonna make all the rules. And when they have the little memorial at the end, they kind of, the camera pans around the memorial of everybody who died in the movie.
[00:29:03] It's like the reverse Love Boat. You get to see everyone that you've met along the way. And his is a glamour shot among glamour shots. It's not a casual photo. It looks like he's, like, you know, like- ... "Come to Camp so-and-so. I'll be your instructor, Dave." Like, it's so, like, he's such a pretty boy. Uh, and I like him, but I also feel like he
[00:29:24] Like, everyone in this movie is relatively rational, right? They're all like-
[00:29:29] Laci Mosley: Eh.
[00:29:29] Paul Scheer: Yeah, I mean, well, they don't solve things rational, but, like, it is a funny thing 'cause, like, why would Bill Paxton say no to the guy? Guy's like, "Hey, look, there's a really terrible storm." And I know he wants to have the plane see him overhead, but I still don't understand, like, what Bill Paxton gets out of dying. Like, it's like if, if he had a death wish- Mm ... it's something. But, like, I don't understand, like, his mentality. His cra- like, why is he that crazy?
[00:29:53] Jason Mantzoukas: I don't, yeah, I also, I also don't understand his drive.
[00:29:57] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:29:57] Laci Mosley: They, they made an attempt to explain his drive real quick, and it was like before they go up the mountain, he was like, "Yeah, I got all of my scientists on this, and I'm gonna out science the mountain and the weather." And they're like, "We got a 82% chance of living." He was like, "I'd take those odds on the stock market." I'll take them, man. I'll take- 'Cause i'm rich, and I love stocks. And then, then the o- the ominous Wick comes out- ... with all his hair and shit, and he's like, "Who is gonna live if y'all are gonna die?" And then he just disappears into the shadows in a cloud of, you know, snow.
[00:30:28] And then when they get up there, everybody's like, "Hey, bro, the, the storm is finna happen. The storm is finna happen." And Bill's like, "We gotta shoot this commercial." And then they keep going. And then he's like, "Hey, man, they said the storm is, like, five minutes away. Like, y'all really need to come down." He was like, "But what about the commercial?"
[00:30:43] And then and then they come back one more time. They're like, "The storm, turn around. The storm is behind you. Y'all need to run." And then the tour guide's like, "Hey, man, I don't wanna die. You told me I'm in charge." He was like, "Yeah, I said you were in charge, but when I said in charge, I meant do what I say for the commercial." "Otherwise, when we get to the bottom of this mountain, you ain't gonna have no job 'cause I'm gonna ruin you."
[00:31:00] Paul Scheer: He, he's also never gonna get to shoot this commercial if he is dead. Like, there is no reason-
[00:31:06] Laci Mosley: This commercial- And the guy says that. He's like, "What are we... We need to go down-"
[00:31:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:31:08] Laci Mosley: "And be safe." And Bill was like, "This is more than a commercial. I also need to do this for me."
[00:31:12] Paul Scheer: My life, my life statement. This is my life statement, he says. And it's like, but to die for a commercial? Like, I, like, like-
[00:31:19] Jason Mantzoukas: I don't even think this is a union commercial. I, I, I... I'll be honest. I, I don't think this-
[00:31:24] Paul Scheer: This is way before social media, too. This would go-
[00:31:26] Laci Mosley: Right.
[00:31:26] Paul Scheer: ... this would go, maybe go viral on social media, but I mean There, there, there's a moment that I love where, you know, he has this base station full of these scientists who are navigating everything, right?
[00:31:38] Laci Mosley: Yeah.
[00:31:38] Paul Scheer: So it looks like he's gonna have all these people really helping him. But they are like like, like the, when they cut to the referees in New Jersey who have to watch all the NBA games, it's like these guys are communicating to them and they can see everything happening on the mountain. I'm like, "How?
[00:31:53] They're up on this mountain." They're like, "Oh, uh-oh, they went down a thing. They j- they're sliding now." I'm like, you don't know this. They can't even communicate this quick. And then like like, like Chris O'Donnell comes in and is like, "Hey, uh, I know Morse code." Okay, they're trapped, they slip down the thing, they're at 300,000 feet.
[00:32:11] Yeah. This is where they are. I'm like, nothing could've been communicated that quickly in Morse code.
[00:32:14] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, yeah.
[00:32:15] Paul Scheer: That would've been like an hour of Morse code.
[00:32:17] Laci Mosley: Also, how is the walkie-talkie not working, but it's working well enough for y'all to do Morse code?
[00:32:22] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:32:22] Laci Mosley: And then when homegirl is locked up in the ice cave with Bill Paxton and Mr. Dying Tour Guide, she's like, "Me and my brother, my dad taught us Morse code when we were kids. Beep, beep, boop. Boop, boop, boop, beep." And Bill Paxton is talking the whole time while she's listening to the code, and it was pissing me off 'cause he, she listened to the code and it's like clickety clack clack, a-boopity boop boop boop.
[00:32:43] Yeah. And he's, he's yelling over that, "Hey, where'd you learn how to do Morse code? Hey, what's your story? Hey, when-"
[00:32:48] Paul Scheer: Save that for later.
[00:32:49] Laci Mosley: She's not listening to the beeps and the boop boops.
[00:32:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes, and you'd have to be listening to it like letter by letter.
[00:32:53] Laci Mosley: Yes.
[00:32:53] Paul Scheer: That's what I'm saying.
[00:32:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Like- And writing, and probably writing it down to be like, "Okay, this is what... It took 20 minutes-
[00:32:58] Paul Scheer: Chris O'Donnell- "... but
[00:32:58] Jason Mantzoukas: this is what's up." You know?
[00:33:00] Paul Scheer: Chris O'Donnell gets a novel out of like, he, he's just hearing it off the side of his head as if... It's like, I, it's like-
[00:33:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Also, it appears as though the, he and his sister are the only people at K2 base camp who know Morse code? That seems baseline level knowledge that- Right ... these type of adventurers would have this skill set. Everybody must know Morse code, but everybody's like, "What?" "I learned it in Boy Scouts. What are we talking about?"
[00:33:30] Paul Scheer: But also when they have to communicate later, Chris O'Donnell just sends her a note that says, like, "Boom or bang."
[00:33:36] Laci Mosley: What the hell was that?
[00:33:37] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my god.
[00:33:38] Laci Mosley: How the hell are they supposed to know that means we about to put nitroglycerin over your head? Like- you could've, you could've write a little note like, "Hey, move away from the- Yeah ... opening. We about to blow it up." What do you mean boom? I saw that and I was like, what bang?
[00:33:49] Jason Mantzoukas: Also, like, from where? Like, they don't know where to hide. They don't... How do they know where the placement... Like, they-
[00:33:55] Laci Mosley: I guess they figured homeboy's bloody spot was gonna be the placement.
[00:33:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, but I mean, like- Yeah ... it could have very easily crumbled-
[00:34:03] Laci Mosley: And he also used way too much nitro started an avalanche. Yes. He used so much nitro I thought they was gonna be blowing to bits underneath. I was like, damn bro, use like a little dash and come back. Like
[00:34:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Exactly. That's all you needed was a little bit of nitro.
[00:34:13] Paul Scheer: They're, they're pouring it in like they're like they're- they're doing a science experiment where they make, like, the, uh, like, whatever the, uh- Yeah they consider, like, shoot out. I'm like, this is too much.
[00:34:21] Jason Mantzoukas: I also feel like they could have gotten a helicopter up to where the blood bag had exploded. Like, I don't f- didn't feel like they needed to climb to them at that point.
[00:34:30] Laci Mosley: They said the air was too thin for a helicopter-
[00:34:33] Jason Mantzoukas: I guess so.
[00:34:33] Laci Mosley: ... to get up to 28,000 feet.
[00:34:35] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:34:35] Laci Mosley: It could only go to 21 and then dangle people off a cliff and almost chop up bandana lady. That's all the helicopter could do.
[00:34:40] Jason Mantzoukas: I know. I, I guess so.
[00:34:42] Paul Scheer: They also- they also have all this information about where they are, but the plan is, "Let's split up." They have a group of people. "All right, guys, let's all split up. You two, you two, you two." It's like, like they're exploring, like, a haunted house. Yeah. So it just gives them a chance to kill everybody in these moments where people don't have to have major reactions. It's like, 'cause, uh, that... When they all go off, it's like, well, everyone's going to die. Like, they, like, every, like, there's no- everyone does die.
[00:35:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Almost everyone dies in order to save just Paxton and Robin Tunney.
[00:35:13] Laci Mosley: Yeah, all the white people live. It's giving 2000s. I didn't see-
[00:35:16] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:35:16] Laci Mosley: ... nobody brown made it down, okay?
[00:35:19] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, yeah. Nobody brown made it down. That was the tagline of the movie.
[00:35:24] Laci Mosley: Vertical Limit: Nobody Brown Made It Down.
[00:35:30] Jason Mantzoukas: Don't worry, we saved the rich white guy.
[00:35:37] Paul Scheer: Well, this is the best part because as Bill Paxton gets more and more- ... insane, he, uh, like, you know, he's shooting, like, he's doing, like, meth in the corner. Like, he's, uh, Dex. He's doing his Dex. You know, which again, not that anyone cares that much, but this whole idea of, like, having high altitude pulmonary edema, right?
[00:35:58] That really only happens like, after you've been up there for, like, days and days and days. All right, so, uh, okay, fine. We'll take that away. But he's giving himself so many shots. Like, one shot- Yeah ... would've done it. Like, one shot would've been, like, fine. Like, he's stealing all the shots for himself.
[00:36:14] Laci Mosley: It's like Smeagal..
[00:36:14] Jason Mantzoukas: And I love that it's individual syringes. It's like a pack of individual syringes for, for, what is it? Four syringes or whatever.
[00:36:23] Laci Mosley: Yeah.
[00:36:24] Jason Mantzoukas: And I was like, "What on earth? They could do s-..." Ugh. Y- you could carry so much more of this drug with you just in a vial.
[00:36:32] Paul Scheer: Everyone could have had like, four of them.
[00:36:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Correct.
[00:36:34] Paul Scheer: Everyone could have had plenty of Dex. Um, but when you find out that Scott Glenn is on a murder mission- ... like, that to me, like, this is, like, where there is a good movie in here.
[00:36:47] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:36:47] Paul Scheer: 'Cause it's like, okay, I'm, I'm here only for straight up revenge.
[00:36:51] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:36:52] Paul Scheer: I'm gonna come up here and I'm gonna kill the man who killed my wife. And, uh, the fact that his wife is still frozen with inside the mountain, don't know how realistic that is, but also insane that she's, like, part of the mountain now, that his, his dead wife just frozen like Han Solo.
[00:37:07] Laci Mosley: Right. She's standing up in, like, with the prayer hands just in the corner like-
[00:37:11] Jason Mantzoukas: She looks so preserved. It's crazy.
[00:37:15] Laci Mosley: She didn't even lie down when she died. She was like- No ... "Nah, let me stand up and die real quick." I've never-
[00:37:19] Paul Scheer: I'll just do my little prayer hands. Now, I don't understand at this point too why Chris O'Donnell's, like, so adamant that he can't kill this guy. Like, there's a part of me that's like, "Hey man, I just wanna get my sister out. I don't care about Bill." Yeah. Like, it's like, it, it's not, like this is not her boyfriend. It's not anything. Like, he has no connection. Like, but he really puts his foot down. And, uh, and then you're hoping that you're gonna get this, like, fun battle, but the end of the movie is just, like, I found it to be a little bit anti-climactic because when he finally gets down there, there's no punches thrown. There's no nothing. It's just kinda like, "All right, we're gonna climb up together," and he's gonna take a pickax to him, and then they just do the opening sequence again.
[00:38:02] Jason Mantzoukas: Except this time Scott Glenn, the, the, the new father figure to these young people who comes and saves, that manages to save them, he cuts the rope so that both he and Bill Paxton fall to their deaths, which I, I, I was kinda like, I, I, okay, maybe...
[00:38:18] I'm, and I'm sure in the meeting they were like, "Guys, I had a great idea. It's bookends. It starts with the rope being cut. It ends with the rope being cut." Except-
[00:38:26] Laci Mosley: Whoa, man.
[00:38:27] Jason Mantzoukas: It, right? At the beginning-
[00:38:28] Laci Mosley: Wait, give me another line.
[00:38:32] Jason Mantzoukas: The only thing I don't like about this is at the end of the movie, two white guys die. That doesn't, that doesn't add up for me. That's strange.
[00:38:40] Laci Mosley: No, but we're gonna blow a brown guy up- ... right before. Okay. Okay. Okay. Then I can work with this.
[00:38:46] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm, I'm good with that.
[00:38:47] Laci Mosley: I can work with this.
[00:38:47] Paul Scheer: Yeah. But, like, the thing that's so interesting is, like, if you're looking at it from a, like, thematic point of view, right? Chris O'Donnell did it first, and he's been paying these pr- the price of that decision. Uh, although he seems kinda fine with it. And, and Robin, you know-
[00:39:02] Jason Mantzoukas: Ironically, he does feel very f- like, Robin's sister-
[00:39:05] Laci Mosley: But is not. His sister's like- Heck yes ... "I hate you 'cause you killed my dad." Yeah.
[00:39:08] Jason Mantzoukas: And he's like, "It had to be done," or whatever. He's like, "Whatever," you know? And I'm like, this maybe would make sense if in the opening scene they were, like, 15 and 17.
[00:39:16] Paul Scheer: Sure.
[00:39:17] Jason Mantzoukas: But they are adults, you know, who I feel like very much would've known what was going on, and absolutely should be wrecked by it. But they're, they're, again, they seem like strangers. They just, everybody see, everybody's a stranger- even the siblings.
[00:39:30] Paul Scheer: I also love there's a line in the beginning, they haven't seen each other for years, right? They've, it's been a very long time since they've seen each other, and she's like, "You've never visited Dad's grave." And I'm like, well, how would you even know?
[00:39:40] Laci Mosley: Right. Are you there every day?
[00:39:43] Paul Scheer: Like, if they are... Yeah. Like- Like, they're complete strangers ...
[00:39:44] Jason Mantzoukas: Have a motion sensitive camera on the grave. I know.
[00:39:48] Paul Scheer: It's, like, such, like, I get, like, she's saying he didn't come to the funeral.
[00:39:49] Laci Mosley: My doorbell app has never had an alert.
[00:39:53] Paul Scheer: The, the, but, like, so at the end of the movie, you would either wanna see him cut it again or have her do it so she also understands, like, okay, I understand the situation you're in. I mean, obviously she's- Basically like hypothermic, going through like, uh, you know, edemas, whatever. But like, this, i- like it's a severe misunderstanding of mountain climbing.
[00:40:14] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:40:14] Paul Scheer: It's like, "Yeah, at the end of the day, we're gonna cut people off this l-
[00:40:17] Jason Mantzoukas: All the time.
[00:40:18] Paul Scheer: Like, "This is what we do. We cut 'em off. We just cut it off."
[00:40:19] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, 80% of ascents end in some people being cut loose. 'Cause, you know, we're all usually dangling eight people to a rope.
[00:40:29] Paul Scheer: By the way- I, I'm gonna guarantee you, those ropes hold more than, I don't know, roughly 300 pounds, because that's really like, they're like, "We, this rope can't handle more than 300 pounds." It's like- Yes, and- Yeah, I have a feeling, I have a feeling they should.
[00:40:43] Jason Mantzoukas: And the anchors are always, the anchors are always terrible.
[00:40:46] Laci Mosley: Getting loose.
[00:40:46] Jason Mantzoukas: It's like one single, uh, device is in the crack, or it's they've tied the rope to an ice ax and just put that in the snow. What?
[00:40:54] Paul Scheer: And they're also doing it with their like bare hands, like they're pulling up a rope of a body-
[00:40:59] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:40:59] Paul Scheer: With, with their own hands. It's like, I'm just thinking about rope burn. Aren't they like frozen up there? Like they should have some more-
[00:41:05] Jason Mantzoukas: Also, everybody is so strong in the movie-
[00:41:09] Laci Mosley: So strong.
[00:41:09] Jason Mantzoukas: ... To be able to do what they're doing, to be able to hang off of... It is so hard to hang off of a something with your full body weight, pull yourself up and over. So long to ha- so hard to hang off of a wildly, uh, out of control helicopter.
[00:41:26] Laci Mosley: Yeah.
[00:41:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Two people manage to hang on to a con- a helicopter that is careening out of control. It would toss them off like rag dolls.
[00:41:35] Laci Mosley: And one la- bandana lady got lightly chopped by a helicopter propeller. Just, just trimmed. You know, you know how it just like gets you a little bit and cuts your jacket when the helicopter propeller passes by your body? You know.
[00:41:45] Jason Mantzoukas: And you know they were like, "It's gonna be so great, 'cause the down from your jacket will just start pe- peeping right out. It's gonna be so cinematic."
[00:41:53] Laci Mosley: Also, I just feel like they're... I get it, it's an action movie, but I think that they wildly underestimated people's attention spans. And so they were like, "Fuck plot. Fuck like any conversation and knowing about any of these characters." We have to treat this like a action horror almost-
[00:42:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:42:07] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:42:07] Laci Mosley: ... Where like every scary thing that happens, sometimes it would be like, woo, crisis averted. We got the ni- the nitroglycerin in the dark. Oh, let's have a drink to celebrate. Ka-blow. Yeah. Oh, we slid off this mountain, but bandana girl saved nasty misogynist man's life. Oh, don't worry, nasty misogynist man gonna die right now through a random avalanche. Ka-bloom. Like, why?
[00:42:31] Paul Scheer: But like, it's like what Jason was saying, the mountain is Jaws.
[00:42:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:42:34] Paul Scheer: Like the mountain is the killer.
[00:42:35] Jason Mantzoukas: The mountain is- The mountain is the shark. Like the avalanches, the explosions, they're, they are creating such an unstable environment. They're putting base camp at risk. They're putting everybody at risk. By just setting off that many explosives on a mountain like that is crazy.
[00:42:50] Paul Scheer: Just throwing that shoe.
[00:42:52] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:42:52] Paul Scheer: I mean, like it's like the, uh, 'cause everything is gonna create an avalanche. Here's the thing that I did love, my favorite line in the entire movie.
[00:42:59] Movie Audio: Don't mind her. She's French-Canadian
[00:43:02] I'm glad she's Canadian. Can be quite pleasant. Today she's obviously French.
[00:43:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh.
[00:43:08] Paul Scheer: That is, that I thought was one of the be- like, hon- honestly some of the most descriptive, uh, character development we get in the entire film.
[00:43:14] Jason Mantzoukas: I'll be honest-
[00:43:15] Paul Scheer: I think I know more about her ...
[00:43:16] Jason Mantzoukas: My favorite character is her, Bandana.
[00:43:18] Paul Scheer: Uh, yes.
[00:43:18] Jason Mantzoukas: Uh, French-Canadian Bandana, uh, Woman I think is terrific because sh- they also have my favorite line at the end when they do manage to save Robin Tunney, and they've gotten her back to base camp.
[00:43:28] And, keep in mind, Bandana Woman, while also doing climbing stuff and getting almost chopped by a helicopter blade, is the camp's medic. So she's taking care of Robin Tunney-
[00:43:39] Laci Mosley: Yeah.
[00:43:39] Jason Mantzoukas: ... and Chris O'Donnell comes in, and he goes, "How is she?" And she says, "Amazing." I was like, what? She, however she is, she is definitely not amazing.
[00:43:48] Laci Mosley: Not amazing. She is- She was coughing up blood two minutes ago.
[00:43:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Exactly. She's for sure gonna die probably, but amazing seemed like such a strange line.
[00:43:58] Paul Scheer: Well, also just the fact that they kiss in front of her body. Like, so she is recovering over there, and they're like, this is their moment for their first cr- kiss, like, uh, Chris O'Donnell and Bandana Woman.
[00:44:09] Like, and it's like, oh, just do that outside the tent or get somewha- get, get away fr- like, it's a little awkward, like it-
[00:44:16] Jason Mantzoukas: Or don't kiss.
[00:44:16] Paul Scheer: Yeah, don't kiss.
[00:44:17] Jason Mantzoukas: So how about don't kiss? How about this isn't-
[00:44:20] Laci Mosley: You haven't created enough of a bond to kiss.
[00:44:20] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:44:21] Jason Mantzoukas: This movie hasn't seeded this at all.
[00:44:24] Laci Mosley: I think the director really thought, and this is getting on my nerves too, this could have also shaved off some time. Bro, why are we lingering on everybody's face for an extra, like-
[00:44:33] Jason Mantzoukas: So much.
[00:44:33] Laci Mosley: ... Excruciating eight seconds. Like, they've done dialogue. It was giving, like, it's the, the Tyler Perry edit where we gotta get to 22 minutes so I can get into syndication. This movie needs to be two hours, so linger on they faces.
[00:44:46] Linger on eye contact. What is this director's g- thing against a two shot? He not doing a two-
[00:44:51] Jason Mantzoukas: I agree.
[00:44:51] Laci Mosley: ... unless he's in the wide. He not even giving me no dirty coverage. Like, every time we cut to somebody face, it's just them. Were you shooting this actor to a tennis ball? Were y'all never in the same room?
[00:45:00] Because why are we cutting it directly to people's faces like they not in the same room? What is this? And it kept happening, and it kept zooming on people's faces as to be like, "This is romance."
[00:45:11] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:45:11] Laci Mosley: "This is fear." Also, you can't do the same, like, sexual romance cut on the brother and sister's faces looking at each other.
[00:45:18] Paul Scheer: Well, that's, that's why it's confusing, 'cause I was like, "Are they gonna fuck?"
[00:45:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:45:21] Paul Scheer: And it's like, no, I guess they're just, like, they're brother and sister who miss each other. But those cuts, when you leave it too long, it feels like there is something under the surface.
[00:45:29] Laci Mosley: Yeah.
[00:45:29] Paul Scheer: The only person it worked on is Bill Paxton, because when he gets crazy, it, it- Like, when he's like, when he looks like he's about to eat her or something-
[00:45:36] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:45:37] Paul Scheer: It's like, I'm like, yeah. I'm all, like-
[00:45:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, that's what I-
[00:45:40] Paul Scheer: ... I don't know when he became crazy, but I'm into it.
[00:45:41] Jason Mantzoukas: ... in my notes I was like, "Ooh, I wish Paxton had been this crazy and chewing the scenery the whole time." You know what I mean? I wish that it had been, 'cause the fir- it, the movie, again, is two hours long, and the first hour is exactly, Laci, to what you're saying, so long, lingering shots that are, seem, like, pointlessly, like, not- and they're not setting anything up.
[00:46:05] Paul Scheer: On that stupid CGI eagle for such a long time.
[00:46:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my God. Exactly.
[00:46:08] Paul Scheer: I'm like, on the, and like, and the stock footage of even the snow leopards. It's like, what are we doing here? I don't understand all these-
[00:46:14] Laci Mosley: Yeah ...
[00:46:14] Paul Scheer: Like, it's, I think it's like to show you the majesty. It was about the majesty.
[00:46:17] Laci Mosley: They're like, "Bro, we only got 80 pages, but don't worry, we gonna turn it into 120 when we, when we're done with all these random shots that we need."
[00:46:25] And to your point, Jason, about Bill Paxton becoming crazy man, and, and to you as well, chewing the scenery, Paul. Um, this n- line, I wrote this down. When Bill Paxton is having his moment where he's like, "I'm gonna throw all caution to the wind. We're ignoring base camp. We're all gonna die for this commercial, and I'm gonna bully y'all into it." He, Bill Paxton says, "Oh, you thought the mountain was just gonna lift up her skirt for us?"
[00:46:48] Paul Scheer: Oh, my favorite line.
[00:46:50] Laci Mosley: Bill, why you gotta rape the mountain?
[00:46:52] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh.
[00:46:52] Laci Mosley: Why? Why? Why?
[00:46:53] Paul Scheer: It's so- Ugh ... it's so gross. Like, that actually made me-
[00:46:56] Jason Mantzoukas: It's awful.
[00:46:57] Paul Scheer: That made me go, I never want to mountain climb.
[00:46:59] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:46:59] Paul Scheer: Because now you've made it into this thing where you're, you're saying you're gonna fuck this mountain. You're conquering this mountain. It's like, it gave me- Yeah ... a whole different taste of what- Ugh ... mountain climbing is about. I don't like it.
[00:47:09] Jason Mantzoukas: And he's, like, intimating, what, do you think the mountain's gonna give consent? N- What, what are we doing here?
[00:47:14] Laci Mosley: What?
[00:47:14] Paul Scheer: Oh my God. Like, there, uh, there is so much here. I guess, like, he's supposed to be Richard Branson. 'Cause Richard Branson at this point is, like, the virgin guy. Yep. Uh, not a virgin, but the owner of, like, Virgin Megastore- Yeah ... and Virgin everything. Like, so I feel like he had the planes, and at that point he was known for doing these extreme things.
[00:47:34] But I do feel like- It is, like he's k- like he's also killed people on this mountain that didn't find out that Bill Paxton has killed other people, and is keeps on going up. Like, so just keep on killing more and more people is just a really wild character specific for this guy.
[00:47:51] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, also, like it's, and it's also in service of, as you keep pointing out, Laci, a commercial. It's not like-
[00:47:58] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:47:58] Jason Mantzoukas: ... oh, and we're going to find-
[00:47:59] Paul Scheer: It's my live stream.
[00:48:00] Jason Mantzoukas: ... the reserves, uh, the oil reserves that are gonna make us so much richer, or we're gonna find the fountain of youth, or we're gonna fi- You know what I mean? Like, it's not like they're in search of something absolutely game changing for, for them.
[00:48:14] They are just trying to shoot a commercial, and that is absolutely makes him seem even crazier. But this really is also peak adrenaline junkie-
[00:48:26] Laci Mosley: Yeah.
[00:48:26] Jason Mantzoukas: ... like nonsense. You know? People doing crazy shit just 'cause it can be done.
[00:48:33] Laci Mosley: And you know what would've helped home girl's plot? What's her name? Eileen, Adeline. What was her name?
[00:48:37] Paul Scheer: Oh, uh, uh, the, the bandana girl?
[00:48:39] Laci Mosley: The sister.
[00:48:40] Paul Scheer: Oh, it's Anne.
[00:48:40] Laci Mosley: No, the sister, Anne. So it would've helped Anne so much as a character if when she was talking about spreading her father's ashes on K2, she had the ashes with her.
[00:48:52] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:48:52] Laci Mosley: And that-
[00:48:53] Paul Scheer: Okay, yeah.
[00:48:53] Laci Mosley: ... And then that made sense because otherwise the whole time that she's going up with crazy ass Bill, I didn't understand why she kept agreeing with him. And then after he murders homie, she's like hits him for a little, like, "You bastard. Why would you murder our homie like that?" Ah. "Okay, let's get his blood." What? You got on board so fast, girl. Like.
[00:49:12] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, and so-
[00:49:14] Laci Mosley: And that man, you should've killed that man in the beginning because Bill Paxton got to that cave and immediately became Smeagol, and all of a sudden all the shots of him were him under like, like he was hunched over underneath like rock caps and ice.
[00:49:24] Paul Scheer: Like, they're like, yes, they're like, yeah.
[00:49:25] Laci Mosley: Like leering at everybody. Like, "I need all that dex for me."
[00:49:28] Paul Scheer: By the way, I wish he, I, I wish he had gold buried up there.
[00:49:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:49:31] Paul Scheer: I wish he had gold and he was-
[00:49:32] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:49:32] Paul Scheer: ... trying to get his gold because I would buy that more than the commercial. Oh my. Oh, by the, oh.
[00:49:36] Jason Mantzoukas: It does, it does feel like K2 is Mount Doom in this. A- a- and that is, this is the fellowship is trying to re- rescue them.
[00:49:44] Paul Scheer: I mean, Chris o'Donnell would be a great, uh, great Frodo.
[00:49:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Samwise gamgee.
[00:49:47] Paul Scheer: Yeah. So this is my favorite part, too. Obviously, you know, whenever you do a movie like this, you have to put the real people in. So they put that guy Ed, uh, Ed in there. Like, he, he's the guy who looks the most uncomfortable on camera because, like, when Bill Paxton gets off the plane, he's like...
[00:50:02] Movie Audio: Ed Viesturs It's an honor to meet you. Elliot Vaughn.
[00:50:07] Nice to meet you.
[00:50:08] Hey, you wouldn't believe this guy. Five times up Everest. One of the only men to climb 12 of the world's 14 highest peaks, all without oxygen.
[00:50:17] Rock on.
[00:50:19] By comparison, all of us are merely amateurs. It's a real honor, Ed.
[00:50:23] Welcome to base camp.
[00:50:25] Paul Scheer: Welcome to base camp. Like, it's like, it's like he's a lit- like, he's not an actor. He's a real guy.
[00:50:28] Jason Mantzoukas: And he's a real guy?
[00:50:28] Laci Mosley: He's a real guy. That makes sense why they left him, 'cause they were like-
[00:50:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh. Yeah.
[00:50:33] Laci Mosley: ... "Oh, you are too good to go with us up the mountain, Mr. Good Guy Who Can Survive." And he's like- "You stay down here, so you don't have to act."
[00:50:40] Paul Scheer: "Good luck up there." Like, you know. It's like, yeah. And, and, uh, but there is something really funny about this. I was, again, things I was reading last night was Ed is, I guess, becoming, like, the technical consultant on this movie.
[00:50:52] But he, like, he did have, like, a crazy disaster where he was escorting a rich guy up the mountain, and that guy, uh, lost both of his hands and, uh, was not able to grasp the line on the descent. Like, so, like, this guy is like, "Yeah, yeah, this is kind of a fun story." He li- literally, like, went through a like a shocking, scary thing and it was like, "Good luck."
[00:51:19] He, he doesn't, he couldn't say like, "Hey, be careful up there. When I was up there just a couple years ago, guy lost his hands." Like, doesn't, doesn't give him any words of warning, doesn't act as any, like, baseline of like, "Hey- ... it's dangerous." Like, no. He's like, "Go for it, my friend."
[00:51:36] Laci Mosley: "I'm not gonna do it, but y'all get out there."
[00:51:39] Paul Scheer: I mean, it's crazy to have that. Like, a guy who literally has been through trauma being like, "Hey, no problem. Thumbs up."
[00:51:45] Laci Mosley: This is, this is the two thou- or the very beginning of the 2000s so problematic was very in. Right. I feel like he probably didn't even get a script. They were like, "We're doing this mount movie. We only need you to shoot for a week. You got, like, four scenes." And then they're like, "And go." And they just told him what to say. But like-
[00:52:00] Paul Scheer: And you also work the grill in the camp, and you serve the, and you serve the Buds, the Budweisers up there.
[00:52:06] Laci Mosley: Like- You know what really pissed me off about Base Camp, too? It's like I get that they, it was an action movie, so they were trying to have these funny moments that they shoehorned in there that were wildly inappropriate at the time. Um, so when they're at base camp and the avalanche happens, the first one, they at base camp are like, "Oh my God." This one lady just starts crying uncontrollably loud as fuck. She was like, "Ah, they dead, they dead, they dead." And everybody looking at her like, "Can you shut up?" And eventually they do tell her, like, "Can you shut up?" Or like, "Get out of here with the hootin' and the hollerin'." Everybody's so sad, right? Then they get communication. They're like, "Oh my God, they're not dead.
[00:52:41] This is amazing." And then the next time we see base camp, they're like, "Yeah, they not dead, but they trapped, so they as good as dead. We ain't helping them. Bye." Like what?
[00:52:48] Paul Scheer: They're packing up their shit.
[00:52:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, they also-
[00:52:50] Paul Scheer: Just they, "Peace. See you later."
[00:52:51] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, they also, like they're u- only three of them aren't dead. The rest are. Like, they lost a bunch of people.
[00:52:58] Laci Mosley: Oh, right.
[00:52:58] Jason Mantzoukas: They, and, and that's what's crazy is, like, people are dying constantly a- and everybody's just kinda like, "Ah, all right." Like, like I-
[00:53:07] Paul Scheer: Well, because no one knows each other. I mean, that's really what it is, right?
[00:53:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:53:10] Paul Scheer: Scott Glenn doesn't know, uh, you know, doesn't know the-
[00:53:13] Jason Mantzoukas: The siblings.
[00:53:14] Paul Scheer: Yeah, so, like, Scott Glenn doesn't know them, but he does know their father.
[00:53:16] Laci Mosley: But he knew their dad.
[00:53:18] Paul Scheer: Right. But it doesn't seem like that really even plays into much. They're on a mission where everybody on the mission doesn't know e- each other. And/or has met each other just like th- 12 hours before.
[00:53:29] Laci Mosley: Yeah
[00:53:29] Paul Scheer: And then it's like th- then the brother and sister who would have the most bond, they are separated so they can't communicate. And then you just have a straight up villain who is like, you can't have anything with him. It's like no, there's no emotional stakes. Like everybody is disposable. And it's like an audience just can't care.
[00:53:47] Jason Mantzoukas: They also make a bunch of choices that make it even harder. Like I feel like the movie suggests but doesn't follow through on that maybe Robin Tunney and Bill Paxton have a romantic relationship.
[00:53:58] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:53:58] Jason Mantzoukas: That's what you would think, right.
[00:53:59] Laci Mosley: That's what they said in the beginning, yeah.
[00:53:59] Jason Mantzoukas: They hint at it. They have, they share kind of a chaste kiss at one point and I was like, "Wait, are they a couple? Are they not?" And in which case I would've been, if they were romantically involved, then I'd be like, I understand why Robin Tunney is maybe making bad choices because she's connected to this guy emotionally.
[00:54:17] It's not just a job for her where... 'Cause otherwise I agree. She would be siding with, is it Tom who's the team leader or whatever?
[00:54:24] Laci Mosley: Evan?
[00:54:24] Paul Scheer: Or make it make her in a relationship with Tom.
[00:54:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Great.
[00:54:27] Paul Scheer: So then like when he dies, it becomes a moment. Or, or even make the crazy millionaire be duplicitous in some way. I think that that's like his charm is like hey, I'm g- I'm here to make this work. Like be a nice guy and then reveal that you're evil. Because all you're really doing besides that is you're just watching people slip, fall, scream and, like, and just go like, "Ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh," you know? Lift up, lift down.
[00:54:50] Jason Mantzoukas: All in a sc- in a very bad, like, green screen environment.
[00:54:54] Laci Mosley: Yeah. It's like watching The Sims die. Like, I have no connection to any of these people. And, like, even the, the vignette where it's, like, we have the guy who's Muslim, and he's gotta stop and pray, and the other guy's like, "Hey, I know you gotta pray to Mecca, but we also gotta climb this mountain real quick because we don't got a lot of time."
[00:55:12] And then they have this weird conversation about religion that makes no sense, and it, I guess it's supposed to be the foreshadowing to their death. I don't even know, but we're not invested in this man.
[00:55:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, yeah, they blow up then.
[00:55:21] Laci Mosley: And, like, but those conversations seem to keep happening.
[00:55:23] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:55:24] Laci Mosley: One that really pissed me off, and this is a director's choice too, is when they were loading up to get on the helicopter to do their choppy-ass drop-off, one, that could've been a moment where they all bonded together and maybe like-
[00:55:35] Paul Scheer: Yes. Yeah, give them something.
[00:55:35] Laci Mosley: ... Give them something, but they didn't. They just all split up and move on. But while they're loading that helicopter, uh, Bandana Lady and O'Donnell have this moment where they... He's like, "Bandana Lady, why you coming on this trip, Bandana Lady?" And she's like, "I'm a slave to Bill Paxton, and I'm about to buy my freedom."
[00:55:53] But this whole conversation could've happened while they were loading up. They had a separate cut of loading things onto the helicopter where no conversation is happening-
[00:56:03] Paul Scheer: Well, that's fun.
[00:56:03] Laci Mosley: ... and then another s- cut to, like, them individually being shot in w- in ones, you know? And, like, single.
[00:56:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Learn a lesson from Law & Order. Do it, do the exposition while you're doing the action.
[00:56:13] Laci Mosley: While you're doing the action.
[00:56:14] Paul Scheer: Yes. Yes.
[00:56:15] Laci Mosley: And then tie that weird joke with the foot stretching in right after. I could've cut that sound so much. It was bothering the fuck out of me, but it kept happening throughout the thing.
[00:56:23] Jason Mantzoukas: Ugh.
[00:56:23] Laci Mosley: And like you said about Bill Paxton's evil man character, I would've liked to see the duplicity as well. Show me that smiling guy but the whole time he's hiding this dex. If he's gonna murder the, the guy who... 'Cause he, we already knew he was gonna murder him 'cause the second they landed in the ice cave, homie started coughing like
[00:56:40] Paul Scheer: He's like, "Oh, you're dead."
[00:56:40] Laci Mosley: And then Bill Paxton looked at him like Smeagol, like, "Oh, I'm killing you."
[00:56:43] Paul Scheer: And by the way, just for context, this movie takes place in less than 12 hours. Everyone loses their goddamn mind.
[00:56:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Truly.
[00:56:51] Paul Scheer: It's like, it's like, like, they go bonkers, bonkers. Like, he coughs once, and it's like, "All right, we're done. We're, well-
[00:56:57] Laci Mosley: We gotta kill him.
[00:56:57] Paul Scheer: ... you're, we're gonna get killed."
[00:56:57] Jason Mantzoukas: I wouldn't have been surprised if he had started to try and eat that guy.
[00:57:02] Paul Scheer: Like, this is what we're doing.
[00:57:06] Laci Mosley: Also, how they run out of... If it takes days to climb this damn mountain, how y'all running out of fire already? Y'all had your backpacks on you. Come on. How are you running out of supplies already?
[00:57:15] Paul Scheer: Oh, my... Well, because you know why? Because the, this is my, again, uh, like, they start off the movie, they're doing that thing where, like, Robin, uh, Tunney's, like, going across this r- uh, crevasse- And then the minute they get off, they have, there's a scene with like, uh, her and the millionaire, and they're both eating and drinking so much.
[00:57:32] I'm like, "Maybe you should, like, save some of this."
[00:57:34] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:57:34] Paul Scheer: Like, he's eating a bar.
[00:57:35] Laci Mosley: Yeah.
[00:57:35] Paul Scheer: She's drinking water. Like, I'm like, I don't think you're doing that much, like, chowing down after like you like, oh, climb for 10 minutes. Like, I was like, I, like I feel like they used all their supplies immediately. Like, they did not know.
[00:57:49] Yeah. And they also are going up with one bottle of water. Did they say that too? Like, "Hey, you only have one bottle of water up there."
[00:57:55] Laci Mosley: Yeah.
[00:57:55] Paul Scheer: "So you gotta boil..." It's like- I think if you're going up the mountain, carry a couple bo- You could carry a couple bottles. Yeah. What else is in the fucking backpack?
[00:58:02] Laci Mosley: Water's heavy but you can carry a couple bottles.
[00:58:03] Jason Mantzoukas: Water, water's heavy. I think their intention is to melt snow.
[00:58:06] Laci Mosley: Yeah.
[00:58:06] Paul Scheer: Okay. Sure.
[00:58:06] Jason Mantzoukas: That would be my, is my guess.
[00:58:08] Laci Mosley: They said they had the kit to melt it.
[00:58:08] Paul Scheer: Okay, yeah, okay.
[00:58:09] Laci Mosley: And they did have the kit to melt it. Um-
[00:58:11] Paul Scheer: Hot water.
[00:58:12] Laci Mosley: Yeah.
[00:58:12] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh.
[00:58:12] Laci Mosley: But s- but speaking to that, yes, they were eating barbecue and all that shit when they go up this heavy ass mountain.
[00:58:17] Paul Scheer: On plates. On like, on like, like s- like real plates too.
[00:58:21] Jason Mantzoukas: It would've been so funny if in the middle of this whole movie, just one of the characters kept having, like, barbecue diarrhea.
[00:58:27] Laci Mosley: One of them was supposed to. Remember the one guy who didn't-
[00:58:30] Jason Mantzoukas: What? What?
[00:58:30] Laci Mosley: ... end up going up the mountain. He was, um, some CEO guy who was attached to the evil-
[00:58:34] Paul Scheer: Oh, right, yes.
[00:58:35] Laci Mosley: His little- Bill Paxton. Why did they have, why did they even have camera like, why did they spend any time on him i- if they weren't gonna take him up the mountain or anything?
[00:58:42] They were just like, he ran with some toilet paper, and they were like, "He got a boo-boo a lot." Ah. "And I gotta take him up the mountain. Hope you're not tethered in the rope behind him, 'cause he just gonna be shitting on your face." What? And then he never even comes up the mountain.
[00:58:53] Paul Scheer: Now I know that Jason does not watch Survivor, but Laci, I don't know if you do. Um, one of my favorite things about Survivor is they always are, like, giving these people, like, treats. Like, "Today, guys, the prize is Applebee's." Now they have been on this island in Survivor, and they've not been eating-
[00:59:08] Laci Mosley: Applebee's?
[00:59:08] Paul Scheer: ... or they've e- Oh, oh yeah, they, always Applebee's. Always Applebee's.
[00:59:11] Jason Mantzoukas: Is there a sponsor?
[00:59:12] Laci Mosley: Isn't it so far away from the island?
[00:59:13] Paul Scheer: Well, so they create a little fake Applebee's, like, in a shack. Like, so when they win, they go to an Applebee's. And, um, so but they've been eating rice and everything, and then they go to Applebee's, and they have ... Like, and it's, it looks like they're at Applebee's, and I'm like, the shits that are going on.
[00:59:29] Laci Mosley: Yeah.
[00:59:29] Paul Scheer: If you've not eaten for, like, 12 days and then you eat, like, a bourbon barbecue burger and fries and a margarita. Like, I mean, that's the show that I wanna see is just people, like, their bodies are like, "No, I can't handle this." It's like, it's so ... It, it always grosses me out that, like, bodies are not meant for Ap-
[00:59:48] Laci Mosley: That's a part of surviving. I actually think that was b- great brand alignment on Applebee's part. There were, like, regular civilians who come into Applebee's every day. They fighting battles on them toilets. So Survivor- If you can get through our Hennessy bourbon hookah wings.
[01:00:04] Paul Scheer: I also love that, like, that's a great advertisement for Applebee's to be like, "Hey, uh 'cause everyone loves it so much. It's like, yeah, when you give it to starving people, they're gonna be like, "This is the, this is the best food I've ever eaten in my life." Like it's the easiest way to be like-
[01:00:18] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm sure-
[01:00:18] Paul Scheer: "You see? Our food works."
[01:00:20] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm sure somewhere in the contract, Applebee's has to be like, "You can't air them throwing it up. You can't air them- Right ... having diarrhea." Yeah. "You can't air them having any kind of negative reaction." Which I'm sure everybody's bodies is rejecting this incredibly rich food.
[01:00:36] Laci Mosley: They have to be ravenous. Yeah. Ravenously hungry, and then Applebee's is gonna hit. Taco Bell shoulda got in on that. Like- Taco Bell is known for being the drunk food.
[01:00:46] Paul Scheer: Oh, my God. Well, obviously we had an opinion about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for Second Opinions
[01:00:59] Music: [Second Opinions Song]
[01:01:00] Paul Scheer: All right. Thank you, John LeJoie. So Vertical Limit, uh, has, you get ready for it, an average rating of 4.6 out of 5
[01:01:10] Jason Mantzoukas: What?
[01:01:11] Paul Scheer: ... stars on Amazon, and-
[01:01:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[01:01:13] Paul Scheer: ... they've got a lot of reviews, over 2,000 reviews, and 77% are five-star reviews.
[01:01:21] Laci Mosley: Hell yes.
[01:01:21] Jason Mantzoukas: This is blowing my mind.
[01:01:24] Laci Mosley: It makes sense.
[01:01:25] Jason Mantzoukas: Absolutely.
[01:01:25] Paul Scheer: Right? So this first review is from Karen Landry, and she titles the review, "A gift that made my best friend smile."
[01:01:33] "This was a gift to a good friend whose dream it is to travel to Tibet and spend a few weeks there with the local residents, not climbing, just hiking and seeing an area that she's dreamed of all of her life. She and her family loved this movie, not just for the thrill and the tension, but for the beauty as well."
[01:01:50] Five stars.
[01:01:51] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my God.
[01:01:52] Paul Scheer: Wait, so you're watching this as a National Geographic document- Like, this is not like, "Oh, finally I get to see what it would be like to be there." It's like, this is a green screen.
[01:02:00] Jason Mantzoukas: It'd be like being like, "Finally, I got to be close to an eagle."
[01:02:06] Laci Mosley: Also strange that she was like, "My bestie really wants to go to Tibet and she wants to hike, so I took her to this movie where everybody falls off the mountain and explodes to really inspire her trip."
[01:02:17] Paul Scheer: Where, where do the people fall from the sky after they were cut free from the cords? Where? Oh, over there. Great. Like, it's like, um.
[01:02:23] Jason Mantzoukas: My friend always wanted to experience an explosion from nitro and I, I took her to see this movie.
[01:02:30] Paul Scheer: Where do you keep the nitro, and is it leaking? Uh, by the way, that whole tent would be exploding. Now this is a reviewer that I was not gonna read because I thought it was a joke, but I actually think it's real. It, the name is, and excuse me for this, this is where I thought it was a joke.
[01:02:44] The name is AnalThrasher69.
[01:02:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay.
[01:02:47] Laci Mosley: Okay.
[01:02:47] Paul Scheer: And Anal, yes, but, but, but.
[01:02:50] Laci Mosley: You can't thrash in 69 ... just wanna say that ...
[01:02:51] Paul Scheer: No, yes, I mean, this is a, a, unless you're climbing a mountain. Um,
[01:02:54] "This movie inspired me to take a pricey vacation to Nepal to hike the mountains."
[01:02:58] Laci Mosley: What?
[01:02:59] Paul Scheer: "While my trip there wasn't nearly as cold or as dangerous as the one in the movie, I still had an awesome time and would recommend that destination to those who like physical challenges. Just stay away from the Indian food. It gave me the squirts for two whole days. LOL. Five stars."
[01:03:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my God. Wow. Can you imagine if this movie inspired you to go to-
[01:03:22] Paul Scheer: This is the movie-
[01:03:23] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[01:03:23] Paul Scheer: ... that is getting people out of the house.
[01:03:27] Laci Mosley: To go climb a mountain. Also, it's not lost on me, Paul, that when you read that, AnalThrasher also said, like, it's not as thrilling as the movie, but it was still...
[01:03:38] Did you want it to be as thrilling as the movie?
[01:03:40] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[01:03:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, no.
[01:03:42] Laci Mosley: You don't want it to be the- Did you want someone to saw you off a rope to your death? Is that... He was like, "I didn't see as many people falling off the mountain as I would've hoped- Yeah ... 'cause I thought they was just gonna be falling like flies."
[01:03:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Hey, if you're going in order to see nitro explosions, multiple avalanches, and people raining from the sky- It's kind of boring in reality. It's like those things when they show you the video, it's like on social media it looks like this, but in reality it looks like this.
[01:04:06] Paul Scheer: Right.
[01:04:06] Jason Mantzoukas: You know? It's the- Yeah it's those fake out things.
[01:04:09] Paul Scheer: Oh, I'm glad he gave me the warning about the Indian food giving him the squirts. Anyway- ... AnalThrasher69 is also just a rough name to pick when you are giving an earnest review. It's a, like again, I was gonna avoid it, but I'm like, it seemed like he went.
[01:04:21] Laci Mosley: Also to like- Well, I mean, his anus did get thrashed 'cause he got the squirts.
[01:04:23] Paul Scheer: Yeah, right, right.
[01:04:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Truly.
[01:04:24] Laci Mosley: Yeah.
[01:04:25] Jason Mantzoukas: To also, to include your own personal experience with diarrhea in a movie review is really weird. To be like, "My review of this movie is I had the squirts in, in this region of the world."
[01:04:41] Paul Scheer: Not even related to it. Yeah. I just had Indian food when I went on vacation.
[01:04:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[01:04:45] Laci Mosley: You were looking for a connection.
[01:04:46] Paul Scheer: Um, now this one has a great, uh, spelling error in it, and I'll read it as written. This is from John K. Dahl, uh, written in 2023.
[01:04:56] "If you like action suspense and the bad guy getting his cum muffins- ... you will like this movie." So-
[01:05:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Holy shit.
[01:05:07] Paul Scheer: ... the cum muffins obviously are-
[01:05:08] Jason Mantzoukas: The T-shirt is definitely cum muffins, and it's like a, a tin- It's like a, a, a, a, a '50s woman holding a tin of muffins.
[01:05:17] Laci Mosley: Yep. And you know the only way you can get your cum muffins-
[01:05:19] Paul Scheer: Get your cum muffins.
[01:05:20] Laci Mosley: ... is if K2 lifts up her skirt. And then that's how you get your cum muffins.
[01:05:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. It's a-
[01:05:25] Paul Scheer: Oh, get your cum muffins.
[01:05:26] Jason Mantzoukas: ... it's a woman holding a tray of muffins, but her skirt is up and K2 is underneath it. She's all woman on top and all mountain on the bottom.
[01:05:33] Laci Mosley: Mountain on the bottom.
[01:05:35] Paul Scheer: This shirt is being made and we gotta do it. Um, but that's the thing that I love is like this person definitely heard comeuppance and I think tried to write it like cum muffins.
[01:05:44] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, yeah.
[01:05:44] Paul Scheer: And I wanna hear John K. Dahl say cum muffins to somebody. It's like, "Oh, yeah, man." Oh, they really got their cum muffins.
[01:05:51] "Oh, I gotta get my cum muffins." John, we have to see you in HR right now. You're talking to your cum muffins.
[01:05:57] Laci Mosley: This is a company-wide email. And you said everyone meet we're meeting in the conference room so I can get my cum muffins?
[01:05:57] Paul Scheer: Oh, my God. My God. Cum muffins to me might be my-
[01:05:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Cum muffins is one of the greatest misspeaks or mishears I've ever heard.
[01:06:00] Paul Scheer: Oh, God.
[01:06:00] Laci Mosley: It's like he never read that word, never saw it on print.
[01:06:14] Jason Mantzoukas: Never.
[01:06:14] Laci Mosley: Just heard it, just heard it alive. Never. And, and may- Just heard it ...
[01:06:21] Jason Mantzoukas: And under- and but, like, I love he understands the context, the correct context in its use, but still thinks it's cum muffins. Oh. That's unreal.
[01:06:32] Laci Mosley: Also, I did, like, have a, like, a full, like, ah, cringe moment. When homie was in the cliff and found out that, um, Wick, the Wick guy, when he was, like, telling O'Donnell his plans and he was like, "No, I'm going up there to kill Bill Paxton 'cause he killed my lady," he was like, "Hey, man, uh, you can't do that." And then Wick was like, "Hey, man, you can't go without me 'cause you've reached the Vertical Limit."
[01:06:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, yes. Yes.
[01:06:57] Paul Scheer: When you say the title, oh, I love, I love it. And I love when you s- get to say the titular line of a movie. Like, it, it is the best.
[01:07:05] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, it was great. It felt satisfying.
[01:07:08] Paul Scheer: And, and as, as you felt-
[01:07:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Cause it also is dumb movies like this that do that, you know?
[01:07:13] Paul Scheer: Ugh. You gu- like, well, as satisfying that as that was to you, I also found satisfaction in the worst typeface for the title Vertical Limit. It looked like, like a ghosty font-
[01:07:23] Laci Mosley: I gotta look at it.
[01:07:23] Paul Scheer: ... in the beginning. It, it like- when they first go out, I was like, it was like so chi- like, it didn't look, it didn't look like K2 or something hard.
[01:07:30] It just felt like, "Vertical Limit." You know? Like, it felt like a little, like it was in the clouds. It just, I was like, ooh. I n- I, whenever I see a title that's that bad, I'm like, "This movie is, it, this is gonna be a rough one." Yeah. I love that we got to watch our, our Summer of Extreme with you, Laci. Uh-
[01:07:47] Laci Mosley: Thank you.
[01:07:47] Paul Scheer: What a great, uh, experience to have you here. Uh, you are, you're doing so much. Obviously Scam Goddess, uh, a hit show that you can listen at any point. You can listen to whatever scam you wanna get into. Uh, Jason and I did one about the NBA scandal.
[01:08:01] Laci Mosley: Oh, that was so good.
[01:08:01] Paul Scheer: But is there anything you wanna plug? Yeah.
[01:08:03] Laci Mosley: Come join us at Scam Goddess. It's a comedy podcast about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it, and this coming July I will be at iHeartRadio and there will be full-length video. I know you guys have been asking for that.
[01:08:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
[01:08:15] Laci Mosley: We're gonna release the criminals. Yeah. You're gonna be right there in it with us. We're going to the vertical limit. We're taking it all the way to the vertical limit.
[01:08:22] Paul Scheer: Get there.
[01:08:22] Laci Mosley: Yeah, you can watch Scam Goddess on Hulu. You can get the book wherever you get books or audiobook, and you can hear me narrating my life of scams and a lot of hot mess that you'll probably wanna get into. And yeah, you can-
[01:08:32] Paul Scheer: It is one of my favorite shows. You are fantastic-
[01:08:34] Laci Mosley: Thank you.
[01:08:35] Paul Scheer: ... and so fun, and, and look-
[01:08:36] Jason Mantzoukas: And so funny.
[01:08:37] Paul Scheer: ... we're not running out of scams. We're not running out of scams.
[01:08:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh. No. No, it's, uh, scams, uh, uh, scams in this country are like nitro that's been left out in the sun. They are exploding.
[01:08:47] Paul Scheer: Is there anything that you could, like, if, if you have a person listening for the first time, is there one that you are like, you gotta do, like, if you wanna check in on one of your favorite ones, is there a good favorite, uh, scam that you can throw people to?
[01:09:00] Laci Mosley: Yeah, I mean, the Sean King episodes are super fun.
[01:09:03] Paul Scheer: Oh, my God.
[01:09:04] Laci Mosley: Um, I just kind of-
[01:09:05] Paul Scheer: I actually sent that to somebody the other day.
[01:09:07] Laci Mosley: You gotta let them know.
[01:09:07] Paul Scheer: Because the people are like, "Well, I don't understand." I'm like, "Here, this, this will explain everything that you need."
[01:09:14] Laci Mosley: And I get it. He was one-stop shop for activism, but he was every GoFundMe was him GoFundIng himself, okay?
[01:09:21] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[01:09:21] Laci Mosley: You know, when he say United Negro, he said, he meant himself, possibly a Negro, united with his family. That's where the money was going, okay? But yes, we could get into that. Um, one of our most recent episode with me, Sid, and Maria, super fun.
[01:09:33] All the episodes are fun. You can really jump in anywhere. I try to keep it consistent. But yes-
[01:09:38] Paul Scheer: It's so good.
[01:09:38] Laci Mosley: ... it's a good time if you like comedy, you like scams. This Vertical Limit, I would've never seen this movie, so thank y'all for that. Seeing a movie with a poster that has definitely clip art, uh, you know, text on it is wonderful to me.
[01:09:49] I feel like I could've made that on Instagram Story. It's giving the paper clip was like, "Would you like to put a white line around these red letters?" And they were like, "Yes, paper clip." Um- Love that for me.
[01:10:00] Paul Scheer: Now, by the way, just so you know, uh, as we were talking about this, I just realized that the tagline for this movie, "The mountain will decide."
[01:10:08] Laci Mosley: Ah.
[01:10:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Whoa.
[01:10:10] Paul Scheer: So the mountain is the villain. The mountain-
[01:10:12] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[01:10:12] Paul Scheer: ... is the straight-up.
[01:10:13] Jason Mantzoukas: The mountain is the antagonist.
[01:10:16] Paul Scheer: So the mountain, the mountain ate ...
[01:10:19] Laci Mosley: The mountain do shit to nobody.
[01:10:20] Paul Scheer: Oh my man, this mountain gave them all STDs or, or.
[01:10:23] Laci Mosley: Right. It should have been a horror film. Then the deaths would have made more sense.
[01:10:27] Paul Scheer: Oh, I love it.
[01:10:28] Laci Mosley: Like the mountain is sentient and it doesn't want anybody riding it. But no.
[01:10:31] Jason Mantzoukas: I would have loved it if at the end of the movie, like Chris O'Donnell and Robin Tunney were like in an apartment in New York City and they're like, "Oh, okay, we made it." They looked out the window and K2 was right there.
[01:10:43] Paul Scheer: "Hey."
[01:10:43] Laci Mosley: K2 follows them home.
[01:10:45] Paul Scheer: Yep. Oh my gosh. Well, thank you, Lacey, for climbing K2 with us. By the way, everybody, if you've not yet purchased our amazing Avaryl shirt, sticker, or coffee mug, uh, please head on over to HDTGM.dashery to pick up this, uh, beautiful shirt. We've been raising so much money for the Breast Cancer Research Foundation.
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