Ice Cube saves the world from aliens via Amazon Prime and Microsoft Teams?! You all demanded it, so Paul, June, and Jason got their butts into the studio to cover all the mouse-clicking, keyboard-clacking, and front-facing video calls in the new War of the Worlds reboot. They discuss the Tesla ambulance, how Ice Cube plays a straight up stalker, the heroic Amazon Prime Air Drone, the packing tape tourniquet, the bonkers computer drop-down menu options, if the aliens want our nude pics, and so much more. Plus, the gang debate the correct way to pronounce "data" and Paul goes out of his way to clarify he knows his own children.
Ice Cube saves the world from aliens via Amazon Prime and Microsoft Teams?! You all demanded it, so Paul, June, and Jason got their butts into the studio to cover all the mouse-clicking, keyboard-clacking, and front-facing video calls in the new War of the Worlds reboot. They discuss the Tesla ambulance, how Ice Cube plays a straight up stalker, the heroic Amazon Prime Air Drone, the packing tape tourniquet, the bonkers computer drop-down menu options, if the aliens want our nude pics, and so much more. Plus, the gang debate the correct way to pronounce "data" and Paul goes out of his way to clarify he knows his own children.
[00:00:00] Paul Scheer: Log into your Facebook. Check your WhatsApp. Secure your Apple Watch. Charge your Tesla and check out your Amazon cart because we saw 2025's War the worlds. So you know what that means.
[00:00:14] Movie Audio: Here we go.
[00:00:16] Music: [Intro Song]
[00:00:21] Paul Scheer: Hello people of Earth and beyond. It's the movie taking the internet by storm since its release only a few weeks ago. Ice Cube in a retailing of HG Well's War of the Worlds. One man, one computer screen, and a lot of product placement.
[00:00:39] In an attempt to keep this show slightly on track, because I know I could spend an hour pulling apart the first 10 minutes, let's just say this. Ice Cube plays Will Radford, a badass surveillance programmer who can monitor every person on earth. However, his relationship with his pregnant daughter and son is strained because he is stalking them.
[00:00:59] Oh. And today is the day that the aliens attack. Anyway, let's meet my co-hosts, Jason Manzu and June Diane Raphael. How are you both?
[00:01:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow. Wow, wow, wow. This was something else. This gave me, like, this gave me a panic attack. Like too many open, active windows on his desktop. I didn't like, I didn't, it was stressing me out how much clicking around this movie entailed.
[00:01:26] Paul Scheer: From moment one that click, click, click, click, click, click.
[00:01:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Didn't like it.
[00:01:29] Paul Scheer: He's in the office of Homeland Security.
[00:01:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:01:34] Paul Scheer: Right. He is this expert, hacker, surveyor, whatever you wanna say. He works alone. In an office with multiple desks and computer screens.
[00:01:44] June Diane Raphael: Wow. Good point. Well, okay, so I, I thought before I realized it had just come out, I thought that it was a COVID movie and I was like, oh, this is so smart.
[00:01:55] Like it, this was made on March 14th, 2020, and they had to all be separate. Everybody just had their iPhones and a computer screen and they just shot it.
[00:02:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Three weeks after our Vancouver show, where Paul absolutely had COVID.
[00:02:11] June Diane Raphael: Yes. And Paul spread it internationally.
[00:02:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Yep.
[00:02:13] Paul Scheer: Sure.
[00:02:14] June Diane Raphael: Single-handedly. But I, I was like, oh, this is a COVID movie and well done.
[00:02:19] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:02:19] June Diane Raphael: You know, well done.
[00:02:20] Paul Scheer: Uh, by the way, June, it was a COVID movie.
[00:02:23] Jason Mantzoukas: What?
[00:02:23] Paul Scheer: It was shot right at the beginning, uh, uh, of COVID.
[00:02:28] June Diane Raphael: Okay. So then, so then.
[00:02:31] Paul Scheer: The fall of 2020.
[00:02:33] Jason Mantzoukas: So why, why force it on us now? Well, I mean, I assume they've taken the, the past five years just to really dial in the visual effects.
[00:02:43] Paul Scheer: I think at a certain point you may say, let's take a loss on this one.
[00:02:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:02:46] Paul Scheer: You know, I, I don't know why it was delayed so heavily because to your point, June, it's not a movie that requires a tremendous amount of work in the, i, I guess maybe the computer screens. I don't know.
[00:02:59] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. What, what do you mean? Everything looks like a DocuSign? Nothing looks real, nothing Looks like it's good. His cursor is the little hand cursor. It looks like a kid's computer he's on. And the Department of Homeland Security would have hundreds and hundreds of analysts working at desks with multiple monitors. Not like one 63-year-old man.
[00:03:21] June Diane Raphael: Well, I would understand it if he had gone into the office at like 5:00 AM
[00:03:25] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:03:26] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:03:26] June Diane Raphael: And then they went into lockdown. But he is there at 9:00 AM.
[00:03:29] Jason Mantzoukas: On a Sunday.
[00:03:30] June Diane Raphael: It's a, it's a Sunday.
[00:03:31] Jason Mantzoukas: I think someone says it's Sunday at one point.
[00:03:34] Paul Scheer: I believe it is a weekend. Because that's why the Secretary of Defense is out golfing.
[00:03:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:03:39] June Diane Raphael: With a cigar.
[00:03:40] Paul Scheer: Yes. And that's also why, uh, our other Homeland Security chief, uh, Clark Greg was working out in his office.
[00:03:49] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah.
[00:03:49] Paul Scheer: Just working, just doing a home gym in his like work office.
[00:03:53] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah.
[00:03:54] Paul Scheer: Not like a home office.
[00:03:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Getting jacked.
[00:03:56] June Diane Raphael: Oh my god.
[00:03:58] Paul Scheer: Jacked.
[00:03:59] June Diane Raphael: Well, I appreciate then that they did this during COVID. That does.
[00:04:03] Paul Scheer: What?
[00:04:03] June Diane Raphael: I do because I'm like, this is people you were trying, you guys don't remember. We were all trying to do the best we could.
[00:04:11] Jason Mantzoukas: Uh, listen, I appreciate that they made it. I don't think we needed to have it released.
[00:04:15] June Diane Raphael: See it?
[00:04:16] Jason Mantzoukas: I don't think, I don't think it needed to be disseminated.
[00:04:19] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:04:19] Jason Mantzoukas: Sure. If you wanna make movies as like a, a, something to do, great.
[00:04:24] June Diane Raphael: That's what we watched. We watched people doing something for the sake of doing something.
[00:04:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. We watched people who weren't comfortable being bored at home, who couldn't, who couldn't read at home and just, and get through it.
[00:04:38] Paul Scheer: Well, I mean, this is the thing though, this movie. Fourth retelling of War of the Worlds. Right. We've seen it multiple times. This is a different way of doing it, but by putting him in this position where he's also kind of like a, a stalker, he is a straight up stalker.
[00:04:56] He is not only stalking his children, he is stalking the refrigerator of his children. Like there's a camera.
[00:05:03] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:05:04] Paul Scheer: Like I know that there are cameras on the outside of fridges. I've never.
[00:05:07] June Diane Raphael: There are?
[00:05:09] Paul Scheer: Yeah, like there's like a, so you can do like zooms and like family, like conversations like that.
[00:05:14] Jason Mantzoukas: I do think there are now smart fridges that can scan what's inside your fridge.
[00:05:19] Paul Scheer: Wow.
[00:05:20] Jason Mantzoukas: That's part of their thing. They're being like, oh, we know when you're low on milk or whatever.
[00:05:24] June Diane Raphael: Which it does sound wonderful, but, but here's what I did not understand.
[00:05:28] Paul Scheer: Yeah. I could use that.
[00:05:29] June Diane Raphael: It does sound wonderful, but here's what I didn't understand.
[00:05:31] Jason Mantzoukas: My fridge keeps texting me, you up?
[00:05:36] June Diane Raphael: You, the, they, he already seems to be running the world.
[00:05:41] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:05:41] June Diane Raphael: Okay. So Ice seems to everywhere be eyes on everything. Listening to conversations, knowing what people are about to do, following them in fridges, in food orders. Now, what I couldn't not for life of me understand is like, well, if he's al we're already able to do that.
[00:05:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:05:58] June Diane Raphael: What, what is the difference between him and the technology he's capable of.
[00:06:03] Jason Mantzoukas: Great, great question.
[00:06:04] June Diane Raphael: And Galileo or Goliath or whatever that thing was called.
[00:06:07] Jason Mantzoukas: So he's using a program called Guardian, which seems to be very robust in its ability to.
[00:06:15] June Diane Raphael: Oh, I'll say.
[00:06:16] Jason Mantzoukas: Break passwords and hack into people's stuff. He's able to delete his son's video game from his, uh, uh, game console or whatever. Like, he's very invasive. So what must Goliath do?
[00:06:29] Paul Scheer: I mean, he is so invasive that at one point he pulls like a, an FBI most wanted list clicks on the person that he wants to follow for that day, and then zooms in on like the literal block that he is living on.
[00:06:44] Like, and then everything comes through him.
[00:06:48] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:06:49] Paul Scheer: People are asking him for warrants. NASA is like NASA, what's going on?
[00:06:53] Jason Mantzoukas: He's on every level. He is. He is dealing with Eva Longoria, who I believe is NASA or weather adjacent.
[00:07:01] June Diane Raphael: NASA.
[00:07:02] Paul Scheer: Well, she's NASA because you know that when she popped up on screen, it says like Susan, NASA. Right?
[00:07:08] June Diane Raphael: He means Sandra.
[00:07:08] Paul Scheer: Sandra, by the way, I wanna say if everyone who's acting by themselves in this film. Eva Longoria, like I, I am all in on her.
[00:07:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah.
[00:07:17] Paul Scheer: I just saw her on Brooklyn Nine Nine and I was like, this is great.
[00:07:20] June Diane Raphael: It's always great.
[00:07:21] Paul Scheer: But she kind of brings like it all together. This is an insane thing.
[00:07:26] June Diane Raphael: She's always great.
[00:07:27] Paul Scheer: Every time she comes on screen, I relax a little bit.
[00:07:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:07:29] Paul Scheer: I'm like, okay, we're in good hands here.
[00:07:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:07:32] Paul Scheer: Like she at least knew how to set up her camera and get a good angle on herself and a good performance. Whereas I feel like maybe some of the Ice Cube ones were right out of the like one or one and done.
[00:07:42] June Diane Raphael: Well, here's the thing, now I have, I have definitely FaceTimed moving around, but very rarely because it's so difficult and to be, to hold the phone out and to talk to someone, but then also make sure that you are going where you need to go.
[00:07:59] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:07:59] June Diane Raphael: And I just, I could not get over the number of times People in this movie, our dear friend Andrea Savage included, you know, they are in mortal danger.
[00:08:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:08:09] June Diane Raphael: And still filming themselves.
[00:08:10] Jason Mantzoukas: They are FaceTiming. I think the movie wants us to believe we're getting access to like their body cams. But why would now, Andrea wouldn't be pointed in a, in a single shot. A one or a one shot rather of their faces.
[00:08:23] June Diane Raphael: No.
[00:08:23] Paul Scheer: Andrea is putting on her tactical gear.
[00:08:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:08:26] Paul Scheer: And the shot is from the trunk at her. There is no camera that what she didn't put down her phone there. There is a a lot of time where we don't know why the camera's there and also. Great for iPhone. 'cause they get a, they, they take a lickin and keep on ticking. I mean, these aliens are shooting lasers and they just, they, they're working fine.
[00:08:46] Just a second later.
[00:08:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah. Oh no. The only thing that is more robust in terms of uh, uh, all of the computers and all of the phones is anything that Amazon touches. Um, um, whether it's drones or packing tape or vans or drivers, Amazon is the hero of the movie.
[00:09:06] June Diane Raphael: And I really, when I saw the driver in the beginning and I realized we were watching on Amazon Prime, I thought, well, for sure they're not gonna have like Amazon be the, the, you know, like the thing that saves the world.
[00:09:18] The world?
[00:09:19] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:09:20] June Diane Raphael: Okay. The planet.
[00:09:21] Paul Scheer: Yep.
[00:09:21] June Diane Raphael: And, and I thought that's gonna be, that's crazy. Like, I like this guy. He is an Amazon driver. Like it's all, but they're not gonna do that. They did.
[00:09:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah, they did. Everybody in the movie is pretty stupid. You know, like there's a thing where Eva Longoria is like, they're moving, they're on the go, they're changing direction or whatever, and they're, everybody's doing their like hacking.
[00:09:43] Furiously clicking their keyboards and trying to figure out and, and, and, and Ice Cubes going through 1 million different windows for different tracking. This is, and that's, and then, then this is when they figure out that they're going after all the data.
[00:09:56] Movie Audio: Holy shit. This whole attack is just a big diversion to get those tripods to the data centers.
[00:10:03] And those tripods are just Trojan horses to get those little bugs into the servers to get to the data.
[00:10:09] To get to the data.
[00:10:10] Jason Mantzoukas: And he's like, oh, it's data. And he clicks in like data government, data facilities, and it populates, uh, uh, pictures of all the government data facilities, which now have the robots just standing outside of them.
[00:10:22] Paul Scheer: Just fingering them. All these robots are just fingering the data facilities.
[00:10:26] Jason Mantzoukas: I was like, you didn't need to, you, you lost. You. They've already gotten there. Like anybody with just looking at it like you've not cracked the code. You're so behind. Obviously they're at the data centers. They're there already.
[00:10:40] June Diane Raphael: Of course, right? They're there. Just look at them.
[00:10:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:10:42] June Diane Raphael: But, but what I couldn't have for the life of me under, well first of all, it seems to be daytime everywhere in the world.
[00:10:49] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:10:50] June Diane Raphael: So it's the same time the armies are not going together.
[00:10:53] Paul Scheer: But is this movie in real time?
[00:10:54] Jason Mantzoukas: It seems to be in real time.
[00:10:56] Paul Scheer: Right? Because I have, I have some, we'll bring that up in a little bit 'cause I do have some questions about that as well.
[00:10:59] June Diane Raphael: I have some questions about that too. But, but what we watch ultimately, meteors hit the earth. They hit the satellites first to take them out. So we have no warning, which by the way, I'm like, how did they even know that that was the intention? They keep on saying, we realized they intentionally hit the satellites. How?
[00:11:17] Paul Scheer: Dunno.
[00:11:18] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:11:18] Paul Scheer: How well they, they get, get their ships, the meteors are ships.
[00:11:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Goliath. Goliath. Goliath was able to, to hack the, uh, hack the aliens iChat.
[00:11:28] June Diane Raphael: So, so, but then all of the world's infrastructure starts to fall, fall apart.
[00:11:32] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:11:32] June Diane Raphael: Uh, we're talking power grids, gas lines, everything. They've, now, they're in our data now they are dealing with the, they've taken down our militaries globally. But what they couldn't stop was news alerts.
[00:11:46] Paul Scheer: Oh, oh. People are still broadcasting. I mean, there's a moment.
[00:11:50] Jason Mantzoukas: And here's the, here, yeah, go ahead.
[00:11:51] Paul Scheer: Where the, the meteor has just crashed, landed on earth, and if we're in the real time of this world, that means that they got a reporter out to a meteor that has landed. She stands there and then is blown up.
[00:12:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Immediately, yeah.
[00:12:05] Paul Scheer: Immediately.
[00:12:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Here's what I'll say. This movie exists in a world in which Fox News is interested in telling the truth.
[00:12:12] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Fox News.
[00:12:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Which was shocking. Like the way this movie could have been better is if every time they cut to the Fox News people, they weren't covering the invasion at all.
[00:12:22] They were covering like Hillary's emails. You know, it like, that's what I wanted. I, but they.
[00:12:27] June Diane Raphael: That's what, that's the data they were going after.
[00:12:29] Jason Mantzoukas: That would be the great joke that the, if the movie was interested in it. Um, but no, they do keep cutting back to Fox and Fox's reporting the same information that CNN is and all the other news sources.
[00:12:40] Paul Scheer: Here's what I wanna bring up. The biggest flaw in this movie, the thing that makes me not trust anything from a technology perspective in this film is that they're all on fucking Microsoft teams. You can't have.
[00:12:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:12:55] Paul Scheer: A more jankier video service. Like when someone tells me they wanna have a meeting on Microsoft Teams, I wanna turn down that meeting.
[00:13:02] June Diane Raphael: Same.
[00:13:02] Paul Scheer: I don't even wanna go.
[00:13:03] June Diane Raphael: You're barely gonna get me on a Google meet.
[00:13:06] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:13:06] June Diane Raphael: Barely.
[00:13:07] Jason Mantzoukas: What is this a hangout?
[00:13:10] Paul Scheer: The other thing I need to bring up. Is, this is a man, Ice Cube. He has lost his wife. How?
[00:13:18] June Diane Raphael: An illness.
[00:13:19] Paul Scheer: An ill, well, I don't think an illness because she leaves a message like, Hey, be nice to the kids and take out the trash. I think she was like hitting a hit and run.
[00:13:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, interesting.
[00:13:28] Paul Scheer: 'Cause that was the last message.
[00:13:29] June Diane Raphael: No, doesn't the daughter say you couldn't, you know, when she gives her her monologue about you, you don't have as much power as you think you do. You couldn't stop mom from getting sick.
[00:13:39] Paul Scheer: Oh, I thought it was like.
[00:13:40] Jason Mantzoukas: I think so. I think he, I think that's just an old voicemail. He listens to it. I don't think that's.
[00:13:44] Paul Scheer: Like on Facebook, by the way. That's the issue. Why is the head of the NSA
[00:13:49] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:13:49] Paul Scheer: Getting voicemails on Facebook?
[00:13:51] Jason Mantzoukas: He's so active on Facebook. He's like, so like that's the thing is I kind of also wish there had been other open windows that he was interacting with that were like, he also had an instant cart order he was waiting for.
[00:14:06] He also was like, I gotta get swiping on Bumble. Like, I wish that, that he was just not So just clicking on, um, hacking sites and password generators.
[00:14:17] June Diane Raphael: Oh my god.
[00:14:17] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to see him playing Minesweeper in the background too. Yes. Got it. Now, he originally was supposed to be paraplegic, but when the director saw how exciting it was that he threw his chair, uh, he was like, he should walk. Now.
[00:14:32] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my God.
[00:14:32] Paul Scheer: And I heard that. I was like, that's interesting. But then I'm like, well, how would the whole end of the movie play out? Because a majority of the third act is him running through a building to catch an Amazon Prime drone, which.
[00:14:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my God.
[00:14:46] Paul Scheer: This drone to me was one of the best things ever because, ugh, like he needs to poison the database with this zip drive. But before he can do it, he has to order a zip drive just to signal, I guess, the drone to even work. Because, the.
[00:15:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes, the guy can't fly. Mark, the Amazon driver has access to an Amazon drone. He is the daughter's.
[00:15:11] June Diane Raphael: Baby daddy.
[00:15:12] Paul Scheer: Baby daddy.
[00:15:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Baby daddy.
[00:15:13] Paul Scheer: Baby daddy says on the surveillance footage because whenever the daughter walks by, it says baby daddy on it.
[00:15:18] Jason Mantzoukas: I see. Okay. Got it. So he's the baby daddy. They're not married, but uh, but nonetheless, she's very, very pregnant. He applies a tourniquet to her injured leg with packing tape, with Amazon packing tape.
[00:15:30] Paul Scheer: I mean, it's pretty strong.
[00:15:31] Jason Mantzoukas: This is wild.
[00:15:32] June Diane Raphael: I actually thought it was a good idea though.
[00:15:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, it's a great idea.
[00:15:34] June Diane Raphael: Well, but, but I just don't understand in the world of the movie why we needed to see him add a zip drive to cart for that drone.
[00:15:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Just to see how easy it is to order quickly on Amazon and see that, you know, it's just an ad. It's an ad. Like even in the end times, you can order and receive exactly what you ordered instantly.
[00:15:54] June Diane Raphael: Right, right.
[00:15:55] Paul Scheer: Well, this is what I do love about it, is that this is a world in which aliens are attacking, cities are being destroyed. And when they tell this, uh, you know, homeless guy.
[00:16:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my God.
[00:16:08] Paul Scheer: Like, hey, we'll give you a free cell phone service. He is not moved by that. But when they say, we'll give you a thousand dollars Amazon gift card.
[00:16:15] Jason Mantzoukas: He risks his life to flip the drone over.
[00:16:19] Insane stuff.
[00:16:20] Paul Scheer: And the world is ending.
[00:16:22] June Diane Raphael: Yeah.
[00:16:23] Paul Scheer: People are making decisions. And like, that's the other thing too, like, yeah, you gotta add the, you gotta add the zip drive to cart because. Here's the flaw of that is ideally the drone would then pick up the zip drive from the depot and then mail it out. But he is, he's just taking his own zip drive.
[00:16:41] Putting it in the drone.
[00:16:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Yep.
[00:16:43] Paul Scheer: And then flying it with the most complicated VR goggles. I'm like, if that's the fu, is it just one person just flying drones and dropping?
[00:16:50] June Diane Raphael: Well, I don't know, but it's, it's honestly like problematic. 'cause you would think the drone would know, I have got to go to the depot.
[00:16:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:16:58] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:16:58] June Diane Raphael: That's my first stop is to get the.
[00:17:00] Paul Scheer: Right, like how is he cutting it through? Because he's carrying a backpack. He's run across the city.
[00:17:04] June Diane Raphael: There's no QR code, there's no, I don't know.
[00:17:07] Paul Scheer: There's no address.
[00:17:08] Jason Mantzoukas: But it really is, the movie is interested in your shopping exp experience. Showing you an Amazon shopping experience.
[00:17:18] Paul Scheer: I did like those clicks.
[00:17:19] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm genuinely shocked.
[00:17:20] June Diane Raphael: It was only like one click, to be honest.
[00:17:21] Jason Mantzoukas: It was, it, it was Buy it now. I think I did.
[00:17:24] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:17:25] Jason Mantzoukas: Buy it now. Uh, and then just use current location. And I was.
[00:17:30] Paul Scheer: And is that an option on Amazon? Use current location.
[00:17:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Use current location, Department of Homeland Security. Um, and then he flies into the building. Um, in the, the, the Amazon driver is able to move the drone through the, the building's, cubicles, hallways, stairwells of the Department of Homeland Security.
[00:17:49] June Diane Raphael: But this, this is the exciting news, is that we did get a preview because he said, you know, they've been training us on this.
[00:17:56] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:17:56] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:17:57] June Diane Raphael: And so. It seems so wild to us now, but like I bet within this calendar year we will have drones flying into our homes and delivering like Q-Tips right to our bathroom.
[00:18:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Like right into our ears.
[00:18:13] June Diane Raphael: It's gonna be so great.
[00:18:17] Paul Scheer: By the way, we we're just talking about the end. There's so much before, but there's.
[00:18:21] June Diane Raphael: Was so much.
[00:18:21] Paul Scheer: That the fact that Ice Cube is able to give his son, uh, access to another drone, not an Amazon Prime drone, but another drone to run like strafing fire against the Aliens, the son's video.
[00:18:35] June Diane Raphael: I couldn't understand that.
[00:18:37] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, yeah.
[00:18:37] June Diane Raphael: I couldn't understand that.
[00:18:38] Paul Scheer: And those drones have missiles on it.
[00:18:40] June Diane Raphael: Like military drone?
[00:18:41] Jason Mantzoukas: Like military drones, yeah.
[00:18:42] June Diane Raphael: Yeah. Well, I laughed so hard earlier in the movie when the son's walking down the street, he's already been attacked by, you know, the meteors have come, they're attacking and, Ice cube both to his son and his daughter. Just keeps on screaming,
[00:18:58] Movie Audio: Get away from that.
[00:18:59] Get outta there now.
[00:19:00] Stay clear to that.
[00:19:02] Get outta there.
[00:19:03] June Diane Raphael: Get outta there. Run, get outta there. And I kept on saying to where? Where to?
[00:19:10] Paul Scheer: Where do you gonna go? You're in the middle of it.
[00:19:11] June Diane Raphael: Where would you like them to go?
[00:19:12] Paul Scheer: And he's telling them, he is said, go straight, make a left. I'm like, where, where, where, where, where are they going to get to that would be safe, safe from the giant alien ships that are firing.
[00:19:22] June Diane Raphael: Although, here's the thing about the aliens though, they don't seem too concerned actually with killing people.
[00:19:30] Paul Scheer: No.
[00:19:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Only like if they're being attacked by helicopters or whatever, they are not just.
[00:19:36] June Diane Raphael: Only push comes to shove.
[00:19:37] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. They're not just destructive in terms of like walking down the street, you know, zapping everybody. No, they're not.
[00:19:44] June Diane Raphael: So what do you think though, that they actually, what do they wanna do at that data?
[00:19:48] Jason Mantzoukas: They want everybody's nudes.
[00:19:51] June Diane Raphael: But seriously, what are they doing?
[00:19:53] Paul Scheer: They're, they're feeding. Like that's, I think that they're vampires that feed on data and they're just finding planets with data.
[00:20:00] June Diane Raphael: So, so when they get data, more little ones are born. Is that what those little insects were?
[00:20:05] Jason Mantzoukas: All the little bugs.
[00:20:06] Paul Scheer: Oh, the little bugs.
[00:20:06] Jason Mantzoukas: I liked the little bugs.
[00:20:07] Paul Scheer: I did too.
[00:20:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Element of it. But I, I, I don't think they ever figured out a, a, a meaningful way to tell us what was the bad guy's plan. Like I, I guess I understand how we stopped them by poisoning the data or whatever, but like to what end?
[00:20:23] Paul Scheer: Twice, by the way, we do that twice.
[00:20:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:20:25] Paul Scheer: Right. We give them two, we give them one virus that's kind of okay. And then one virus that's kind of partly a human virus because.
[00:20:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. I think one of them we gave them was COVID-19.
[00:20:34] June Diane Raphael: Well, yeah, and I don't, I didn't know how they were half biological and half cyber, which Ava Longoria says multiple times. I just.
[00:20:41] Paul Scheer: But I believed her when she said it.
[00:20:43] June Diane Raphael: Oh, absolutely.
[00:20:44] Jason Mantzoukas: And the, and the, the smoking gun information that Ice Cube's son gives him that illustrates all of this is the case is basically 12 PDFs that are just old documents showing that aliens have come before in the past. I was like, this is not nearly enough information. This is just basically 12 single documents that he gets to open and be like, they've been lying to us the whole time.
[00:21:09] June Diane Raphael: But, but. What have they been doing with that data?
[00:21:15] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, we don't know.
[00:21:16] June Diane Raphael: We don't know.
[00:21:16] Jason Mantzoukas: It's none. None of it solves any of the questions. It just proves to him that, and that he's been lied to.
[00:21:22] June Diane Raphael: And because Goliath is. Because there's so much data that's about to come in that somehow triggered the aliens.
[00:21:32] Jason Mantzoukas: I think so. Like it, I think Goliath is so much more data rich that it's like too, too attractive to them.
[00:21:40] Paul Scheer: Well, you know, I mean, but here's the other thing. His job is spying, like at certain points. It's not just about people in the United States.
[00:21:48] He's pulling up camera views of everywhere. So he is, and I just wanna go back to this because why is what the government doing wrong and what he is doing on a daily basis even to his own family, right? Like there's no.
[00:22:00] June Diane Raphael: It's not, that's what I wanted to say to his son too. It's like focused on just what Pops is up to.
[00:22:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:22:06] Paul Scheer: I mean, I do also just wanna get into, he is the head of NSA surveillance.
[00:22:13] June Diane Raphael: Domestic.
[00:22:14] Paul Scheer: Domestic, and he is tasked with, uh, analyzing this situation. At one point, the president's like, all right, what do you got? And we know, we know that he, we know what he's been doing because we've been watching in real time.
[00:22:28] Yeah. And he gives a full throated analyzed version of what is happening.
[00:22:33] Movie Audio: Mr. President. Gentlemen. We're seeing a full attack on our infrastructure, on power grids, water communication, and top level military targets. They knew exactly where they were going, and they're systematically eliminating resources and our ability to coordinate a response. Here, let me show you these locations are, our global response headquarters. Our most sensitive targets, and they're taking them out one by one. Based on their prioritized destruction of these critical intelligence command centers. My analysis suggests nuclear power facilities are next. Electric grids will follow, leaving us completely helpless.
[00:23:17] Do you see that they're grouping to concentrate their attack?
[00:23:20] Exactly. And they will be much stronger in groups. So if we concentrate our armed response assets to our high priority locations, we can hit as many as possible. I think it's the only option we have right now.
[00:23:35] Paul Scheer: How do you know?
[00:23:36] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:23:37] Paul Scheer: How do you know?
[00:23:39] June Diane Raphael: Yeah. He has taken it in, he is analyzed it and he's giving, he, he is reporting out like a very high level kind of summary and we never saw any of those pieces coming together.
[00:23:51] Jason Mantzoukas: Honestly, most of what he's done has been to alter the electronics in a Tesla that he got his daughter in so that it would have higher battery to get her farther away from the bad guys.
[00:24:03] Paul Scheer: And by the way, I, I, I know that a Tesla, if you're a down on 12, it's just gonna drive right to a charging station. It's not gonna allow you to go on the road with that little of a charge.
[00:24:12] June Diane Raphael: Where does he send her?
[00:24:13] Paul Scheer: To a hospital.
[00:24:14] Jason Mantzoukas: No.
[00:24:15] June Diane Raphael: No, Paul, they're all full.
[00:24:16] Jason Mantzoukas: They're just, they're just in an office, it looks like.
[00:24:19] June Diane Raphael: It looks like he just sent her to like an abandoned office.
[00:24:22] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. To like an office park.
[00:24:24] Paul Scheer: By the way, uh, uh, Scott wants to point out that his official title is Domestic Terror Analyst.
[00:24:30] June Diane Raphael: Now, I don't know much about much, but it seems like when you're just, your title is just analyst, that you're pretty low level.
[00:24:37] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:24:38] Jason Mantzoukas: He is too old to have this job. Simply.
[00:24:40] June Diane Raphael: He's too old to have this job, but it's like you are, if I don't see a head of or anything like that on your title, like I, I am concerned that you are being led into these zooms and he is always late with the president.
[00:24:57] Jason Mantzoukas: He's on with the president, so he should have dozens and dozens and dozens of people who are doing exactly what he's doing. He, if he's talks to the president, he shouldn't be doing that many clicks.
[00:25:08] Paul Scheer: Well, and also I will say that, uh, the pre, the president should be in a safe room, not in the Oval Office. The President is fully.
[00:25:17] June Diane Raphael: It's hard to trust anyone's background, Paul, because what we'll find out later on is of course, that this hacker we've been looking for the whole time, the Disruptor, is actually his son, after all.
[00:25:30] Paul Scheer: And, and the fact that he couldn't figure that out makes me think he's.
[00:25:34] Jason Mantzoukas: Dumb.
[00:25:34] Paul Scheer: Absolutely terrible. The dumbest.
[00:25:35] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:25:35] June Diane Raphael: Because he should have, he has on his computer, his son's location everywhere. Listen, the, the. Guys, when he photoshopped himself, and also when did he cut that YouTube video together?
[00:25:47] Jason Mantzoukas: He cut like a meme video. He, he built.
[00:25:51] Paul Scheer: He made a reel.
[00:25:52] Jason Mantzoukas: He built a meme video it with like all sorts of specifics and jokes in it. And like, I was like, what the fuck?
[00:26:00] June Diane Raphael: He, he did a great job on Cap Cut. But here's my question. When, when the son is, when we think he's at his actual home, which is Ice Cube's home. Yeah. When we think he's there, there's a giant explosion whi, which Ice Cube's is tracking and
[00:26:18] Paul Scheer: The aliens come to ice Cube's house.
[00:26:20] June Diane Raphael: Correct. And, and destroy it. But he, the son reacts to it so strongly. The camera goes flying, things are happening, the camera's on the ground with soot on it. But then we find out that he is not at his home.
[00:26:37] Paul Scheer: Nope.
[00:26:37] June Diane Raphael: He's at one of the other hacker's homes and, and has a backdrop, like a screen that he pulls down. What was he reacting to?
[00:26:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Who knows? Well, I think the, the aliens, the aliens I think were coming for all of the hackers. His whole Disruptor team got, got attacked at one point.
[00:26:56] Paul Scheer: Um, do you think that he was just maybe like having like Phantom, like, like, like, uh, like June, going see a horror movie with you, you jump outta your seats.
[00:27:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh boy.
[00:27:04] Paul Scheer: So maybe, uh, maybe like when that explosion happened, he was like, oh, he just like, he just kind of had his own. Yeah. He shouldn't have gone anywhere.
[00:27:11] June Diane Raphael: Right.
[00:27:11] Jason Mantzoukas: I loved that during the whole attack, like there's still an element that is monitoring, like social media, like there's hash hashtag Free Earth, like.
[00:27:21] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:27:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Ice Cube is somehow monitoring social media as well. Again, this is a 60-year-old man.
[00:27:28] Paul Scheer: The world is ending. The world is pretty.
[00:27:30] June Diane Raphael: Well, people have access to internet still. Like they took down a lot.
[00:27:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:27:33] June Diane Raphael: But they didn't take down our, our wifi.
[00:27:35] Paul Scheer: Although at one point didn't they say they took down all the power?
[00:27:40] Jason Mantzoukas: People still gotta post.
[00:27:42] June Diane Raphael: We have to.
[00:27:43] Jason Mantzoukas: That's when I will start posting.
[00:27:46] Paul Scheer: Yes. That's by the way you keep on saying he's old in this movie and I, and I don't disagree. That's why I wanted him to do more like, uh, hunting and pecking. I wanted us to type and back.
[00:27:56] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:27:56] Paul Scheer: Uh, tink, tonk like just.
[00:28:01] June Diane Raphael: I was obsessed with the fact that, well, also the idea that his daughter and her baby daddy would be on Facebook.
[00:28:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:28:10] June Diane Raphael: Is the only flaw of the movie, to be honest. Oh. But like, that's absurd.
[00:28:14] Jason Mantzoukas: They're only communicating on Facebook.
[00:28:16] June Diane Raphael: Everybody's communicating on Facebook.
[00:28:18] Jason Mantzoukas: It's the most important app in everyone's lives.
[00:28:20] June Diane Raphael: Well, but, but I laughed so hard when the, when everything's all right at the end.
[00:28:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, this is incredible.
[00:28:27] June Diane Raphael: Um, he saves the world. And then on Facebook we get to see pictures of her baby shower. And there are four people there.
[00:28:36] Jason Mantzoukas: Five. It's the five cast members of the movie.
[00:28:39] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:28:40] June Diane Raphael: Wait, okay. So it's, you're right.
[00:28:41] Jason Mantzoukas: It's, it's the two kids. It's Mark and it's, um, Eva Longoria.
[00:28:45] Paul Scheer: Yes. And so are, are we to believe that they're now a couple?
[00:28:49] Jason Mantzoukas: I hope so.
[00:28:50] June Diane Raphael: Oh, that would be wonderful. I'd like to see 'em get back out there.
[00:28:53] Jason Mantzoukas: I would love it if they were the only five people who survived on Earth.
[00:28:56] Paul Scheer: Because she's the head of NASA at the end of the movie.
[00:28:59] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:28:59] Paul Scheer: She becomes the head of NASA. She's in front of the White House. Maybe they needed to shoot that scene in 2025 just to finish the film. Because after COVID protocols are lifted because finally get the five cast members together.
[00:29:09] Jason Mantzoukas: I mean, five years later we, I mean, NASA basically doesn't even exist anymore as as an entity like we live.
[00:29:16] June Diane Raphael: Oh my God.
[00:29:16] Jason Mantzoukas: We live in a post NASA world right now.
[00:29:19] Paul Scheer: I guess I did have a problem that the president was so quick, like he's hearing, okay, aliens have attacked the meteors are things, they're taking our data. And he goes, well,
[00:29:30] Movie Audio: I see no other option to initiate this War of the Worlds to save us all.
[00:29:35] Paul Scheer: He, he does say the titular line.
[00:29:37] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah.
[00:29:37] Paul Scheer: War of the World is.
[00:29:38] Jason Mantzoukas: Which is repeated multiple times too.
[00:29:40] Paul Scheer: And then like Ice Cube is like, yes, yes. Like he's psyched like it's a football game. Like finally, finally we are in this.
[00:29:48] Jason Mantzoukas: Finally we've got a War of the world.
[00:29:50] June Diane Raphael: They've that honestly as though everyone's been waiting for this and preparing for it.
[00:29:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:29:54] Paul Scheer: Well, and they keep on saying on the front lines, where are the front lines?
[00:29:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:29:58] Paul Scheer: Every shot of the globe. It seems like they're everywhere.
[00:30:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, everywhere.
[00:30:02] June Diane Raphael: In the daytime.
[00:30:03] Jason Mantzoukas: And we're losing, all of our ships have capsized. All of our planes are falling out of the sky. Um, we are losing in a way that is shocking.
[00:30:12] Um, and, but they barely show because mostly what we see is a cacophony of dropdown menus. I would like, there are shots in this thing where I just wrote down some of the things that are available in dropdown menus on Ice Cube.
[00:30:28] Paul Scheer: Oh, love this.
[00:30:28] Jason Mantzoukas: And one of them is, this is just an option in one of his dropdown menus. Show sensitive government addresses. That's an option he can click. Show sensitive government addresses.
[00:30:41] June Diane Raphael: But then some of the other options are just copy. Like, there's such a range of options in that dropdown.
[00:30:49] Jason Mantzoukas: It is, yeah. Like it might as well also be like a thumb, the thumbs up emoji. Like it is absolute madness. What is what he has at his fingertips And also how.
[00:31:00] June Diane Raphael: Oh God.
[00:31:01] Jason Mantzoukas: It's, it's what you were saying earlier, Paul, about him acting like he was at like a, uh, his kid's sporting event or something.
[00:31:06] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:31:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Like, it's the same thing we had with, um, when Hugh Jackman was a hacker in whatever hacker movie that was.
[00:31:14] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah. Uh, yeah, Swordfish.
[00:31:15] Jason Mantzoukas: There's, there's an element of trying to give intensity and action and emotion to what is such a just flat. I'm just typing on a computer.
[00:31:26] June Diane Raphael: Yes.
[00:31:26] Jason Mantzoukas: To try and give it weight. To try and give it stakes.
[00:31:29] June Diane Raphael: Well that, and that is why he's late to so many high level meetings because Sandra NASA's calling. People are always calling in, calling you when he's doing something else.
[00:31:41] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:31:41] June Diane Raphael: And he's on the phone with someone. Someone else is calling in. Everybody's gotta be on video. You'll never get a phone call in this movie.
[00:31:49] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:31:49] June Diane Raphael: Just a straight up audio. Oh. You have got to be on video. And, uh, that's the way that urgency is, is created in this, which is so wild.
[00:32:00] Paul Scheer: I mean, my favorite moment though is when his son reveals that he is the Disruptor, the person they've been chasing.
[00:32:06] He goes,
[00:32:06] Movie Audio: It's you?! It's you?!
[00:32:10] Yeah. Well, yes. Kind of. I.
[00:32:12] How could you, man? How could you? My own son is hacking the government.
[00:32:19] Paul Scheer: It's you? It's you?
[00:32:20] June Diane Raphael: It's you?
[00:32:21] Paul Scheer: It's you? Like outta his chair, and there's a couple moments when he gets out of his chair. That's probably my favorite. But the second is when clearly, as an actor, Ice Cube understands he can't leave this room.
[00:32:35] So he runs to the most flimsy glass door, like where if you pull in the door, it kinda makes a clunk, clunk, clunk, clunk sound.
[00:32:42] June Diane Raphael: Mm-hmm.
[00:32:42] Paul Scheer: You know, it's like, it's not even sealed. He runs that glass door. It's like, Ugh. Locked. Like is lock from the inside. I'm like, what? That door doesn't even seem to have a lock on it.
[00:32:52] And if it did a strong push would break it. Like he's not in a secure no room. He's in a office at most normal offices.
[00:33:00] Jason Mantzoukas: He's in a conference room in West Hollywood.
[00:33:02] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:33:02] Jason Mantzoukas: Lemme clear. He's in like his manager's office.
[00:33:05] June Diane Raphael: Well, but here's the thing though, like I do wish. I do wish they had some, we had some sense of like, oh, these aliens have a certain Achilles heel.
[00:33:19] They're, they can't go into.
[00:33:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Great. I would love this.
[00:33:22] June Diane Raphael: You know, like, they can't, they, they're, they can't go into coffee shops, they can't go. Whatever it is, is because they are half human. Like there's something about them, but as it stands.
[00:33:34] Paul Scheer: They can get COVID.
[00:33:34] June Diane Raphael: There is no.
[00:33:35] Jason Mantzoukas: They, they're susceptible to COVID-19.
[00:33:37] Paul Scheer: Yeah.
[00:33:38] June Diane Raphael: There is no safe place. So yeah, the, the Department of Terror Analysis or whatever is on lockdown, but what does it mean?
[00:33:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:33:47] June Diane Raphael: Nobody is safe in this world.
[00:33:49] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, also, how come the, the aliens haven't attacked the building he's in, which is where, like Goliath is?
[00:33:57] Paul Scheer: They should have just come right there.
[00:33:58] June Diane Raphael: That was their last stop, Jason.
[00:33:59] Jason Mantzoukas: I guess so. Yeah.
[00:34:00] June Diane Raphael: Yeah. Just was like last on the agenda.
[00:34:02] Jason Mantzoukas: The, the way the movie is set up. He's alone, I believe, on a Sunday or on a weekend or whatever at the Department of Homeland Security, which suggests to us that they take the weekends off entirely.
[00:34:16] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:34:16] Jason Mantzoukas: The entire Department of Homeland Security takes weekends off.
[00:34:22] Paul Scheer: Right, because there's no one in the entire building.
[00:34:23] Jason Mantzoukas: Clark Greg is like, what are you doing there? Why are you at work? And what? What? If he wasn't the building would be empty.
[00:34:32] June Diane Raphael: Yeah. Seems someone should be there 24 7.
[00:34:35] Paul Scheer: But by the way, it seems like they're doing a very important thing, which is bringing down the Disruptor today, who's like number 12 on the most wanted list.
[00:34:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:34:42] Paul Scheer: And it seems like Andrea Savage is like, I need the, uh, warrant. And he's getting a warrant.
[00:34:46] Jason Mantzoukas: He's a search warrant for the FBI.
[00:34:49] Paul Scheer: Why is she even reporting to him? She reports to him multiple times of like, you're the FBI. He is an analyst.
[00:34:55] Jason Mantzoukas: He's, again, he's doing too much and also not nearly enough.
[00:34:59] June Diane Raphael: Well, and you're so right, because on the one hand, he runs the world.
[00:35:04] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:35:05] June Diane Raphael: Like truly he runs the world.
[00:35:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Alone.
[00:35:09] June Diane Raphael: Alone in that office.
[00:35:11] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:35:12] June Diane Raphael: Um, but at the same time, like he has, he also seems to have no idea what's happening and is making all the like terrible decisions.
[00:35:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:35:21] Paul Scheer: Well, there's another thing that I've just am realizing too. It. Like we're supposed to believe that he's smart, but he stops these aliens by putting a, a 128 gig, like hard drive in like.
[00:35:36] Jason Mantzoukas: USB-A.
[00:35:37] Paul Scheer: Right. Which by the way, so I just googled that as we were talking. Here it goes, 128 gig hard drive is suitable for basic use.
[00:35:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, yeah.
[00:35:45] Paul Scheer: Uh, but, uh, moderate, it would not be sufficient for users who, uh, need a game or a software.
[00:35:52] Jason Mantzoukas: You couldn't even, you couldn't even put like a high fidelity album on 128.
[00:35:56] Paul Scheer: I have a four terabyte or like a small, a SanDisk, like that's tiny. Like just up it guys. Like if we're taking down the entire data
[00:36:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Make it sound big. That's what I mean by when he finally gets, when the son gives him the Goliath, uh, whistleblower document. It is so basic. It, it's so not interesting.
[00:36:15] Uh, it's so not impressive, I guess is what I mean. You know, like.
[00:36:18] June Diane Raphael: Yeah.
[00:36:18] Jason Mantzoukas: You think it's gonna be this big reveal. They've got this cutting edge software and all it is is a bunch of old photos of UFOs from the fifties.
[00:36:27] June Diane Raphael: But here's, here's what I find to be so fascinating about this filmmaker and the choices that are made. Like you could still open up six of those files and look at like old timey newspaper clippings or whatever, but have hundreds of files sent over.
[00:36:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:36:44] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:36:44] June Diane Raphael: And yet the choice is like, no, just 12.
[00:36:47] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:36:47] June Diane Raphael: Just 12.
[00:36:48] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, it does feel like the movie does feel like by having Ice Cube as the lead. It's that same way that Liam Nees in action movies function like this is for dads and uncles.
[00:37:01] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:37:01] Jason Mantzoukas: And I don't think they wanted to clutter it up too much and to confuse the dads and uncles.
[00:37:07] Paul Scheer: Right. It's a sort of like computers can get you any information obviously.
[00:37:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:37:11] Paul Scheer: And Amazon's great to deliver you shit. And your kids are on Facebook being weird and you gotta monitor and you got, and you don't know what your kid's doing in the next room.
[00:37:19] June Diane Raphael: And Teslas are basically ambulances.
[00:37:22] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:37:22] June Diane Raphael: And can save your life.
[00:37:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. This is for dads and uncles. This is what this movie is.
[00:37:27] June Diane Raphael: Oh my God. Well it's so funny. So our youngest son came in while I was watching it this morning and goes, oh, what video game is this?
[00:37:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Amazing.
[00:37:34] June Diane Raphael: And I said, oh no, this is a feature film.
[00:37:37] Paul Scheer: What I also appreciate from that, knowing.
[00:37:39] Jason Mantzoukas: So funny.
[00:37:40] Paul Scheer: Knowing both of the people in that story, my wife and my son, is that he would ever assume that you were up at six in the morning playing a video game like that would like, like he would've been like.
[00:37:49] June Diane Raphael: It should've signaled. Yeah.
[00:37:50] Jason Mantzoukas: I like that. You, I like that you felt like you needed to identify that you knew both of the people in the story. Your wife, and your son.
[00:37:57] Paul Scheer: Just wanna, I just wanna just say that I go on record and saying I know both of them.
[00:38:00] Jason Mantzoukas: You know, both of the people. Like I like that before you, before you provided your anecdote, you were like, just so you know, this is from insider info. I happen to know the person that June is mentioning. He's my son.
[00:38:12] Paul Scheer: Yeah. He's, he knows what's up. Um, the.
[00:38:18] Jason Mantzoukas: That was wild. Oh man.
[00:38:24] June Diane Raphael: Oh God.
[00:38:28] Paul Scheer: Oh, this is the thing that was driving me nuts. Clearly they weren't making the movie together. And everyone says data differently.
[00:38:34] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:38:34] Paul Scheer: So it sounds like they're having a fight.
[00:38:36] June Diane Raphael: So true.
[00:38:36] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Like so Sandra will say Data, data, data. And they'll be like, we need the data.
[00:38:40] Movie Audio: These things eat data.
[00:38:41] Checking the data centers, standby.
[00:38:43] Collecting data, get to get to the data.
[00:38:47] These little guys are drawn to data.
[00:38:48] You know, everywhere they've been going, there's a data center.
[00:38:52] No. The code you'll be carrying is data.
[00:38:54] What if we starve them out, take away the data.
[00:38:57] So we gotta infect all the data centers.
[00:38:59] Data center?
[00:39:00] Yeah, data centers.
[00:39:02] We use the data centers they've connected to as bait and plan an old school rabid virus to infect the data they're eating.
[00:39:07] The more data it consumes.
[00:39:09] Data, data, data, data, data, data, data, data.
[00:39:12] They're eating our data.
[00:39:13] My data's being drained.
[00:39:15] Paul Scheer: They're speaking back and forth and it does feel like they're having a pissing contest on how to say it.
[00:39:20] June Diane Raphael: Well, and there's only one right way to say it, of course, which is data.
[00:39:26] Paul Scheer: Data.
[00:39:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Data. Oh, do you have that data for me?
[00:39:34] Paul Scheer: Gimme my data.
[00:39:37] June Diane Raphael: Now, where did we ever get to see where those little bugs that were feeding on the data went?
[00:39:42] Jason Mantzoukas: I mean, they're all over the place. They're attacking, um. Um, Ice Cube when he gets into the Goliath room, I believe.
[00:39:49] Paul Scheer: Like when those little snake legs pull.
[00:39:51] June Diane Raphael: That's right, that's right.
[00:39:51] Paul Scheer: Um, but they seem to be sweet, sweet.
[00:39:52] Jason Mantzoukas: Eva Goria gets 'em. They, she traps a couple and she's keeping them as pets, I think.
[00:39:57] Paul Scheer: Yeah, I think that that like, that's really what I'm curious about. Like, 'cause she's like, oh, I like these little guys. But meanwhile, the scene before they were crawling all over her.
[00:40:05] Jason Mantzoukas: They were, and also they are, they have blood. Hey, guess what? They also have blood. So like get out of there, Eva.
[00:40:11] June Diane Raphael: That's crazy.
[00:40:12] Jason Mantzoukas: Um, there's so much happening outside, like the movie is unquestionably happening outside, like aliens are attacking. There's so much happening and we spend all of our time watching Ice Cube try and maneuver a cursor like that. The movie we're watching I know is Ice Cube and a computer.
[00:40:34] June Diane Raphael: I would love someone to pull some data on how, how much screen time is devoted to just his screen.
[00:40:44] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:40:45] June Diane Raphael: And moving windows around and answering calls and typing and coding versus like, action with people and aliens. Like, I really do need to know because it did feel like, God dammit, I am watching a, a computer screen now. There's another version.
[00:41:03] Jason Mantzoukas: It was stressing me out.
[00:41:04] June Diane Raphael: It was stressing me out too.
[00:41:05] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, I think there's a way that this style or whatever you wanna call this, um, can be very interesting. I just, it just didn't really work here. But because I think to use these elements, all of the way that we communicate is so smart, if you're interested in interrogating how we communicate.
[00:41:23] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:41:24] Jason Mantzoukas: This is not doing that.
[00:41:25] Paul Scheer: Uh, I do wanna also bring up that, you know, earlier we've been talking like, oh, clearly Amazon wanted a lot of product placement. Would it surprise you to know that this was a movie not made by Amazon? It was made by Universal. It is only being distributed on Amazon.
[00:41:39] Jason Mantzoukas: So this is not, wait, so this, the Amazon stuff was in there before Amazon was part of it?
[00:41:43] Paul Scheer: Yep. I mean, I think that they probably did some sort of branding deal with them.
[00:41:48] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, okay. Okay, okay, okay.
[00:41:49] Paul Scheer: But it was not like, it wa this wasn't a direct.
[00:41:51] Jason Mantzoukas: It wasn't cooked up by Amazon.
[00:41:53] Paul Scheer: No. Universal Studios bought this movie independently of Amazon.
[00:41:57] June Diane Raphael: That's shocking.
[00:41:58] Paul Scheer: And then maybe that was a backdoor idea, but this is not an Amazon made for Amazon movie.
[00:42:03] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm surprised there was not an Alexa moment in this Uh
[00:42:07] Paul Scheer: Oh, yeah.
[00:42:07] Jason Mantzoukas: In this whole thing. I'm, I'm shocked there that they didn't, somebody didn't say Alexa, you know, where are the robots or something?
[00:42:14] Paul Scheer: Alexa, find Disruptor.
[00:42:16] June Diane Raphael: Well, a lot of things, like once they get into audio, 'cause so much of it is video. The movie really falls apart. It's like when he, he is able to talk through the Amazon truck.
[00:42:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:42:27] June Diane Raphael: Through a system. The speaker system.
[00:42:30] Jason Mantzoukas: What speaker?
[00:42:31] June Diane Raphael: What speaker? Yeah. And how does he have find? He's able to like connect to the camera and Mark almost drives off the side of the road. He's so shocked.
[00:42:40] Jason Mantzoukas: As he should.
[00:42:41] June Diane Raphael: Yes.
[00:42:41] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:42:42] Paul Scheer: I mean, just to go back and say there is a camera in a commercial airliner that just has footage of like, where's that camera? Well, like what camera's in a commercial airliner?
[00:42:51] Jason Mantzoukas: How come there aren't a bunch of shower cams? If that's what we're showing?
[00:42:55] Paul Scheer: Well that that's what he's getting in there early for.
[00:42:57] Jason Mantzoukas: Why? Why isn't he?
[00:42:58] June Diane Raphael: I think that's Goliath.
[00:42:59] Jason Mantzoukas: Exactly. Checking out shower cams. Goliath is just, it's a picture of Clark Greg unredacted. It's a bunch of pictures from the forties and thirties of UFOs and then just shower cams.
[00:43:11] Paul Scheer: You did not wash your pits. Like, it's like, it's, you know, just like letting them know.
[00:43:14] But there is something in this movie that's so crazy, like, you think this is gonna be about a movie where we're ticking down like a cyber terrorist, somebody who is like, uh, that organization that wears the, uh, the masks.
[00:43:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Anonymous.
[00:43:27] Paul Scheer: Anonymous. And that first part of it when he's getting the warrant, when he's zoning in on the house, when he's finding the block and the apartment building and everything.
[00:43:36] He's also off checking Facebook in between that like, it's like he's not even focused on the task at hand. It's like, okay, we're gonna get that warrant. Lemme call my daughter real quick. You know, it's like this is, there's an FBI SWAT team standing outside of a building with guns ready to go.
[00:43:53] June Diane Raphael: I think you don't know what it's like, Paul, to deal with as many windows and dropdown menus and the speed at which he's able to do these things is, is beyond your wildest imagination.
[00:44:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, and I don't, here's what I'd like to see And, and listen, I think Ice Cube is a fantastic actor. I agree. I don't think he can type that fast.
[00:44:14] Paul Scheer: No one can.
[00:44:15] Jason Mantzoukas: I, I didn't believe he could type that fast.
[00:44:17] Paul Scheer: No one can.
[00:44:18] June Diane Raphael: He, he is a very fast. Now, I'm a fast typer, but.
[00:44:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Are you really?
[00:44:22] June Diane Raphael: Yeah.
[00:44:22] Jason Mantzoukas: Did you take a typing class?
[00:44:24] June Diane Raphael: Yes.
[00:44:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Or is this just Oh, you did, okay.
[00:44:26] June Diane Raphael: I did, yeah.
[00:44:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Did you Paul?
[00:44:27] June Diane Raphael: No, Paul didn't.
[00:44:28] Paul Scheer: Well, can I tell you why? Because, uh, when they said, do you wanna take a typing class? I'm like, uh, I don't think I'm gonna have to use typing in what I'm doing.
[00:44:36] Jason Mantzoukas: Interesting.
[00:44:36] Paul Scheer: I was adamant that I was like, yeah. Yes. Uh, none of that please. Like, like, this is not gonna come in handy for me at all.
[00:44:44] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my God, that's so funny.
[00:44:46] Paul Scheer: I, I rejected it.
[00:44:48] Jason Mantzoukas: I don't think it was even offered to me.
[00:44:50] June Diane Raphael: It was offered in sixth grade. We all had to learn typing.
[00:44:53] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Okay.
[00:44:53] Paul Scheer: It's smart. I, I mean, I, you know.
[00:44:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Can I just offer a PSA Please? This is a PSA to people that I think maybe, maybe generationally we just have forgotten or people don't know.
[00:45:04] If you have something stuck in your body, like, um, the daughter does in this movie. She has some.
[00:45:10] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah.
[00:45:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Some piece of shrapnel in her leg. Do not pull it out. Period.
[00:45:16] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:45:16] Jason Mantzoukas: That will make it worse. Make it, wrap it tight so that the thing stays in there. Do not pull it out of your body. That's my PSA.
[00:45:24] June Diane Raphael: Okay.
[00:45:25] Paul Scheer: Well, I mean, I think that you're right on the, uh, you're right on the level of Ice Cube. Like Ice Cube is very much like, don't pull it out.
[00:45:32] June Diane Raphael: He knows.
[00:45:32] Paul Scheer: I I do wanna also bring up that.
[00:45:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, I mean, like, my, my guy applied a tourniquet to her leg. So in the, at the end of the movie, when they're showing the, the baby shower pictures, she should have lost that leg.
[00:45:44] June Diane Raphael: Thousand percent.
[00:45:44] Jason Mantzoukas: That's what a tourniquet does.
[00:45:45] Paul Scheer: Yeah. That, that leg would've been gone.
[00:45:46] June Diane Raphael: Well, especially 'cause you have to imagine that after, even after that they, you know, got the virus inside all of the aliens. I think, I don't know, even after that happened, like all emergency and like medical services must have been down for a really long time. I can't imagine she got any help.
[00:46:05] Jason Mantzoukas: No.
[00:46:05] June Diane Raphael: You know, so that leg had to come off.
[00:46:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Had to go.
[00:46:08] June Diane Raphael: Had to, had to go.
[00:46:10] Paul Scheer: But you know what? She lived another day. I mean, the fact that she didn't have a miscarriage, honestly, was also pretty impressive.
[00:46:14] Jason Mantzoukas: Incredible.
[00:46:14] Paul Scheer: I mean, the amount of stress that she went through.
[00:46:16] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm shocked they didn't try and make that the plot line.
[00:46:19] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:46:20] June Diane Raphael: Me too.
[00:46:20] Jason Mantzoukas: That she goes into labor.
[00:46:22] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Oh yeah.
[00:46:22] Jason Mantzoukas: And that, that is what Ice Cube is monitoring is her giving birth.
[00:46:27] Paul Scheer: The final moment of a baby being born would've been pretty great.
[00:46:31] June Diane Raphael: And then if it got bitten by one of those little bugs.
[00:46:34] Jason Mantzoukas: Whoa.
[00:46:34] Paul Scheer: First alien human robot hybrid.
[00:46:37] Jason Mantzoukas: I love it.
[00:46:38] Paul Scheer: That's the sequel. What the hell is happening here?
[00:46:42] Jason Mantzoukas: And boom.
[00:46:43] Paul Scheer: Um, just so you all know, Amazon Prime Air, it has taken flight. It is, uh, it is an active service.
[00:46:49] Jason Mantzoukas: This is the drone, uh, delivery system?
[00:46:51] Paul Scheer: This is the drone delivery system. It is, it is happening, um, in, uh, Texas, in Phoenix.
[00:46:56] Jason Mantzoukas: This is the rural areas in, I believe it's happening in areas that are not congested.
[00:47:01] Paul Scheer: College Station, Texas, and parts of Phoenix. And they're expanding to Kansas City Metro and, uh, 30 minutes or less. And the, uh, it's only 4 99 extra to, uh, to get it.
[00:47:13] June Diane Raphael: But now what can they carry though?
[00:47:15] Paul Scheer: Little boxes.
[00:47:16] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:47:17] Paul Scheer: I'm looking at the boxes.
[00:47:18] Jason Mantzoukas: A thumb drive.
[00:47:19] Paul Scheer: Yes. If, if they actually ordered a two terabyte thumb drive, it wouldn't have worked. Um, they're cute. They're, they're bulky and it doesn't seem to make that much sense. Honestly. It doesn't seem to make any sense. 'cause it's.
[00:47:29] Jason Mantzoukas: I think it makes sense in areas that are where people are remote.
[00:47:33] Paul Scheer: Right.
[00:47:33] Jason Mantzoukas: You know, like that. I, that, that it's like, it's easier to fly a drone out over
[00:47:38] June Diane Raphael: Right.
[00:47:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Uh, agricultural land than it is to send a driver.
[00:47:42] Paul Scheer: Sure.
[00:47:43] Jason Mantzoukas: That I get. In the cities, anything like that, absolutely not. No way.
[00:47:47] Paul Scheer: I mean, wow. Oh wow.
[00:47:49] Jason Mantzoukas: But I mean, like when I drive around Los Angeles, the city that we all live in, and I see those little guys.
[00:47:55] June Diane Raphael: Robots. Yeah.
[00:47:56] Jason Mantzoukas: Those little robots driving around with googly eyes on them or whatever. I'm like, oh, I've already acclimated to this. I've already acclimated to driving around a city and there's just not just now, not just robots driving around with, I guess food in them or whatever, instant card or whatever, but also the Waymo's. Driverless cars on the road.
[00:48:17] Paul Scheer: I love those.
[00:48:17] Jason Mantzoukas: I've just, I'm just normalized to now. I still haven't been in one, but I love the idea.
[00:48:22] June Diane Raphael: Waymos are great.
[00:48:22] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:48:23] Paul Scheer: I see. I, but I'm also a person who doesn't understand that little robot. Like I don't get like the delivery robot, you mean?
[00:48:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. I don't get why.
[00:48:27] Paul Scheer: Yeah, like it just seems to me like it's not gonna get there quickly and what am I ordering?
[00:48:31] Jason Mantzoukas: And to me they just look like, I feel like people must be using them as toilets.
[00:48:36] Paul Scheer: Well, then they'll have a, they'll have some photo, uh, they will have a video of you shitting in it. And I think then you have to pay for it. I think that's the, that's the idea.
[00:48:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Hey, that sounds, that's a, that's a service I would sign up for.
[00:48:45] Paul Scheer: Um, this is a movie that.
[00:48:47] Jason Mantzoukas: Can I interrupt you for just one second please? I'm so sorry, Paul. Just to go back to the robots. June.
[00:48:51] June Diane Raphael: What's up?
[00:48:52] Jason Mantzoukas: Would you have ever imagined a world in which, when you said, what is its mission?
[00:48:57] June Diane Raphael: Mm-hmm.
[00:48:57] Jason Mantzoukas: About the BB 8 robot, that is rolling around on screen in Star Wars and then the little toy in your home, that now we live in a world where you regularly drive past robots on the streets of Los Angeles.
[00:49:10] June Diane Raphael: It's so true. And, and actually the world.
[00:49:11] Jason Mantzoukas: Like what is its mission?
[00:49:13] June Diane Raphael: The way that the robots, the Los Angeles robots move is very similar.
[00:49:18] Jason Mantzoukas: The LAR's?
[00:49:18] June Diane Raphael: The LARs, it's very similar to BB-8.
[00:49:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:49:22] June Diane Raphael: You know, and it seems none of us do know what its mission is. I don't know what they're delivering.
[00:49:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. No. I think hot diarrhea.
[00:49:30] June Diane Raphael: Yeah. I don't know if it's just like, if it's food or what's in there.
[00:49:33] Paul Scheer: I was having lunch the other day and one just drove right by me. And then we also were in a car the other day where it was causing a traffic intersection, a backup. Remember the, the, uh.
[00:49:41] June Diane Raphael: Yes.
[00:49:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[00:49:42] Paul Scheer: The driver was screaming at it, which I was like, that doesn't really, uh, help because it's, I don't think that they're taking that in. I hope. I don't know.
[00:49:50] Jason Mantzoukas: By the way. Good, good that the residents of LA are having road rage against the robots and not each other. Thank you.
[00:49:57] Paul Scheer: Um, but I will just say that, you know, was this movie on your radar at all? Because this has been a movie that for the last two weeks I have been getting nonstop text messages about. People, like, have you seen it? Because this is a movie that had a zero on Rotten Tomato.
[00:50:12] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[00:50:12] Paul Scheer: A very hard feat to do is now moved up to 3%. But it is, uh, but a zero is a shocking for Rotten Tomatoes. A pretty shocking thing. And that was a big talk about it.
[00:50:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[00:50:25] Paul Scheer: On release it had a zero. Uh, and, and I think that people are watching it to be like, well, how, what could it be?
[00:50:31] June Diane Raphael: Yeah.
[00:50:32] Paul Scheer: And here's what I'll report. Whatever you think, if you've not seen it and you've just listened to us, it will still shock you. Like even everything that we've just revealed here, it will still shock you because in this movie, there are things we can't even get to all of the things that are confounding, like the idea you were saying, dropdown menus.
[00:50:50] They sometimes type in search words where it's like terrorist house.
[00:50:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[00:50:54] Paul Scheer: Um, you know, Prius.
[00:50:55] Jason Mantzoukas: There's so many, yeah. There's so many good things like that, that are just both what are, what's available in his dropdown menus and also what he can type in that is immediately then realized.
[00:51:08] June Diane Raphael: Yeah.
[00:51:08] Paul Scheer: I, and, and, and, and all of this is happening in real time, so like they are activating warships, planes are dropping out of the sky, but like this movie happens in 90, it, this is 90 minutes or it is 12 hours. I don't know, because we never see a time jump.
[00:51:25] Jason Mantzoukas: There are no obvious time cuts. But time, I believe does pass. You know?
[00:51:30] June Diane Raphael: Well, there's one.
[00:51:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Not much.
[00:51:31] June Diane Raphael: There's one, and I don't remember when it was, but they're waiting for something and it's like 1 46 and then it's two 17. It's like there's one time cut.
[00:51:41] Paul Scheer: Wow. So it's about 30 minutes. 30 minutes. All right. So there's 30 minutes of unaccounted for, so in that time.
[00:51:49] Jason Mantzoukas: It's when everybody in the movie goes and has a dump. I would love it if there was just minutes of the movie where it was just webcam of an empty chair. Finally ice cube returns from the bathroom.
[00:52:03] Paul Scheer: Damn. What did I miss?
[00:52:06] June Diane Raphael: I have to say I liked Ice Cube with the gray hair and gray beard.
[00:52:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, he is great.
[00:52:10] Paul Scheer: I like him in little sweater vest and a and a a shirt.
[00:52:13] June Diane Raphael: Thought he was great and I thought he did a hell of a job for what he had to do.
[00:52:18] Jason Mantzoukas: And I wrote down repeatedly throughout that everybody's working so hard at an impossible task.
[00:52:24] June Diane Raphael: Yeah.
[00:52:25] Jason Mantzoukas: To act. Not just to act against nothing, but to act against nothing but have the stakes be so high is impossible to, to have it be a World War event, and you are just trying to communicate the stakes and severity and scope via, um, webcam is absurd. Without any scenic partner, without anybody to work off of or work with, it's, uh, uh, just punishing, I felt like. And everybody's doing their best.
[00:52:56] June Diane Raphael: Yes.
[00:52:56] Paul Scheer: And, and I will say this, I have no problem with the acting in this movie whatsoever. It really is. How insane it is because when that kid says, I will fly the Amazon drone to your office, he like, I, I believe, like I love that side game. I love his son. Like when his son is like, dad, lemme tell you something, dad, I gotta tell you something.
[00:53:19] And now I do think that they tease the audience, like, I'm like, oh, he's Disruptor. He's like, daddy, you gotta know what's going on. I was like, you don't tell me about what I need to know. Click, you know, he is like, I'm like, well, we should have just played that up, that little twist a little bit more.
[00:53:31] June Diane Raphael: Well, felt like he needed to pay a little bit more attention to his son overall.
[00:53:35] Paul Scheer: Yes. His, his son didn't seem to be as monitored as much as his daughter.
[00:53:39] June Diane Raphael: Yeah, the daughter. It was a little creepy.
[00:53:42] Paul Scheer: Seems like he's got something weird going on there. He doesn't want her to maybe, like, she fell in, like, she became like a, a substitute for his wife and now, you know, on some level, you know, not like, you know, just like he's being pro protect overly protective of her.
[00:53:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Yeah. He, he is definitely monitoring her quite a bit more.
[00:53:58] June Diane Raphael: Yes.
[00:53:59] Paul Scheer: Cause I mean, to think about him being on Facebook so much, but not responding to a Facebook friend request from four years ago.
[00:54:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Like, if you, here's what I'd like to see.
[00:54:06] June Diane Raphael: Who's that friend request from?
[00:54:07] Paul Scheer: From the baby daddy.
[00:54:08] Jason Mantzoukas: From the. Yes, from Mark.
[00:54:10] June Diane Raphael: Why does he hate Mark so much?
[00:54:11] Jason Mantzoukas: Because Mark calls him Pops.
[00:54:13] Paul Scheer: When mark, when he goes.
[00:54:15] Jason Mantzoukas: Also, Mark did raw dog his daughter.
[00:54:17] June Diane Raphael: Well, okay.
[00:54:19] Paul Scheer: But willingly it was a, it was a consensual raw dog.
[00:54:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
[00:54:22] Paul Scheer: Like for conception, I would imagine.
[00:54:24] June Diane Raphael: I just didn't know why he hated him.
[00:54:25] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, we dunno that.
[00:54:26] June Diane Raphael: So much.
[00:54:27] Paul Scheer: Well, he, and also like when everything he does seems to be like, okay, sir, I'm on it. Like, yeah, he, he says, like he says.
[00:54:34] June Diane Raphael: He's a lovely guy.
[00:54:35] Paul Scheer: Get to her office, whatever it is, wherever her lab is, get to that. And he is like on it. On my God, on my way. It wasn't, it wasn't like a question, it was like on my way. That guy loves his Amazon, but he's working.
[00:54:49] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay, so Ice Cube and his son are shown to be expert hacker computer people, right? Yeah, they are. They can breach any firewall they can get into, any system, whatever it takes, they can do it. But at the end of the movie, when Ice Cube has to run down to the Goliath room or whatever.
[00:55:12] It is his daughter who has to do all of the hacking.
[00:55:16] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[00:55:16] Jason Mantzoukas: And she's mounting the computer, and I couldn't figure that out. Why is she now in charge of, uh, um, disabling security systems and, and finding the key code and blah, blah, blah?
[00:55:29] June Diane Raphael: Well, I don't know. I mean, the other main issue I had with it, that key code is like, okay, now we're, we are to understand that this is 40 feet below the actual Department of Homeland Security and Goliath is here and it is like the most important piece of data that we have.
[00:55:49] And they get, they have a camera facing the keypad.
[00:55:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[00:55:55] June Diane Raphael: Facing the keypad and they are able to find out that password in
[00:56:00] Jason Mantzoukas: Immediately.
[00:56:01] June Diane Raphael: Less than 30 seconds.
[00:56:02] Jason Mantzoukas: Immediately.
[00:56:03] June Diane Raphael: So, so odd.
[00:56:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Wouldn't wouldn't it have been funny how, how great this is my pitch for the movie. Wouldn't it have been great? And maybe one of our listeners will compile a, um, a, a trailer for this movie that is this, that when, when he gets, when he finally breaches and gets into the Goliath room, it is just Billy Bob Thornton from the Amazon Prime Show, Goliath.
[00:56:28] It is just, what's in there is only the Amazon Prime TV series, Goliath.
[00:56:34] June Diane Raphael: Goliath.
[00:56:35] Jason Mantzoukas: All seasons.
[00:56:36] Paul Scheer: I would've liked it if in the moment he is like, this is too stressful, and he pops on Bosch. Oh, gotta watch it. Just unwinds me.
[00:56:43] Jason Mantzoukas: He's like Ballard. He's like, I gotta watch my Ballard. I need to, I need her to solve cold cases. Ugh. Please, please. Can I be on Ballard guys? Just if you're listening Ballard. I just wanna be on Ballard.
[00:56:54] Paul Scheer: June has heard me ask about Ballard too. All the Amazon execs and they're always.
[00:56:58] Jason Mantzoukas: I'm obsessed.
[00:56:58] Paul Scheer: We're we're not. Yeah, they were like, why are you talking to us about this? Like.
[00:57:02] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah, let me be Ballard. Please guys, let me be on Ballard. I just wanted, I just wanna just help Maggie Q or fight Maggie Q. Just wanna know what's up. I just want Renee Ballard. Call me.
[00:57:15] Paul Scheer: Oh my gosh. All right, so let's take a look. Obviously people had opinions about this movie, uh, a lot of negative ones, but there are people out there that had a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions.
[00:57:26] Music: [Second Opinion Song]
[00:57:29] Paul Scheer: Thank you Ben Lee for that amazing song. Uh, we don't get to hear it a lot, but I always love it. Amazon, this is an Amazon Prime movie. When we watched it, it was number six of the most watched things on Amazon.
[00:57:41] Jason Mantzoukas: Ev ever?
[00:57:42] Paul Scheer: Well in the top 10 right now, like in the area.
[00:57:44] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, I see what you mean. Sorry. Sorry.
[00:57:45] Paul Scheer: And so far, uh, it already has almost 3000 reviews.
[00:57:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, wow.
[00:57:51] Paul Scheer: And 15% of them are five star reviews. This first one is from Liam, and the title is "Ice Cube has done it again."
[00:58:00] "I like Ice Cube. I like when the president said, I hereby initiate a War of the Worlds and everyone clapped. And I was happy to see the man next to the tent reject a year's worth of free internet in return for picking up a drone in the middle of a field of lasers, but quickly changing his mind for a thousand Amazon bucks. I thought that was very realistic. Personally, if someone offered me a thousand dollars in Amazon Bucks. I'd pretty much do anything they told me. Including risking my life."
[00:58:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, Liam.
[00:58:33] June Diane Raphael: Oh, this is dark. Okay.
[00:58:36] Paul Scheer: So.
[00:58:36] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, Liam.
[00:58:37] Paul Scheer: "Some may say this movie wasn't very good. Do not listen to them. A lot of people don't like aliens and they give bad reviews to alien movies. There's also a part of the movie where they try to drop two nuclear bombs on top of Ice Cube. But luckily, he saved himself with three seconds to spare. Lots of suspenseful moments, and even a heart touching ending. Five stars."
[00:58:57] June Diane Raphael: I don't remember him dropping nuclear bombs.
[00:58:59] Paul Scheer: I don't either.
[00:59:00] Jason Mantzoukas: I don't either.
[00:59:00] Paul Scheer: Liam is watching this in a different, Liam is also out there thinking that people are, uh, bombing, like critic bombing alien movies. Like, uh, which is a.
[00:59:08] Jason Mantzoukas: I, yeah. I also don't use the term heart touching.
[00:59:11] Paul Scheer: No. Heart touching is not a, not a thing.
[00:59:13] June Diane Raphael: Nobody's ever used it.
[00:59:15] Paul Scheer: Phil K writes, uh,
[00:59:17] "Surprisingly gripping and good."
[00:59:19] Jason Mantzoukas: Wait, is it Phil K Dick?
[00:59:20] Paul Scheer: Yes. That's, that's why it makes this one real. Yeah.
[00:59:23] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow. Cool.
[00:59:23] Paul Scheer: "Surprisingly gripping and good. Showing tools we all had to learn to use during COVID combined with some fancy, probably fictional government tech. It made this movie even more urgent."
[00:59:35] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my God.
[00:59:35] Paul Scheer: "The way this combines all types of conspiracy theories, UAP disclosure, privacy concerns, anonymous Disruptor, et cetera, it actually stands out as a representation of the frantic times we are living in times that could become even more frantic. Once you let the format sink in, it's hard to switch off."
[00:59:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.
[00:59:56] Paul Scheer: "Quite an original take on an old story and in a way even scarier, 'cause it hits closer to home. It also shows us how much we live in a corporate world. And the film did not shy away from showing that. Five stars."
[01:00:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Incredible.
[01:00:09] Paul Scheer: Like they think that that was like a corporate takedown.
[01:00:11] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. I wonder for, for this new generation, is this movie their, um, independence Day?
[01:00:18] Paul Scheer: It might be.
[01:00:19] June Diane Raphael: Oh god.
[01:00:21] Paul Scheer: I, uh, this one is from an untitled person.
[01:00:24] "I think the truth is people are uncomfortable talking about the potential of something going wrong at the hands of our leadership. People are uncomfortable with the return of Jesus."
[01:00:37] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay.
[01:00:38] Paul Scheer: "And the end of the world."
[01:00:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Alright.
[01:00:40] Paul Scheer: "And people are definitely uncomfortable seeing a black family save the world. So it could be subconscious, but it's definitely true. This is a good movie with a profound message that left you with something to think about. Not like those vulgar movies that people get excited about."
[01:00:56] The title, "The Truth About the Low Ratings." Five Stars.
[01:01:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay. Wow.
[01:01:02] June Diane Raphael: Wow.
[01:01:02] Paul Scheer: Snuck in the Jesus thing in there. A little bit like, I don't think that this movie had that kind of.
[01:01:06] Jason Mantzoukas: I was like, where, where are you seeing Jesus inside of this? I would love that.
[01:01:12] Paul Scheer: Um, and, and then it just finally goes here from Amazon customer,
[01:01:16] "Amazing cyber evasion movie."
[01:01:20] I think he means invasion.
[01:01:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[01:01:22] Paul Scheer: " The acting was amazing and I liked how it was directed with all the video chatting, et cetera. Five stars."
[01:01:29] And that is just a sampling of some of the five star reviews of this film, I mean, is is maybe big government is taking it down. Maybe this is like the, uh, that movie with Will Smith and the football players where he was talking about, uh, CTE and the NFL kind of squash.
[01:01:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Sure.
[01:01:46] Paul Scheer: Squashed it. The concussion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The concussion movie. This is maybe, maybe big government is making us, uh, not enjoy this. They kind of hacked into Rotten Tomatoes.
[01:01:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Somehow, I do believe that the government in this movie is operating more coherently than the government we are currently living under is.
[01:02:03] Paul Scheer: All I'm saying is if Ice Cube can get into anything, you could definitely hack Rotten Tomatoes and maybe there's a, there's an analyst out there jacking up scores, dropping down scores.
[01:02:14] You know, he may not like, uh, you know, She Hulk and just getting in there and getting his own issues with it.
[01:02:19] Jason Mantzoukas: Just review bombing the woke, the woke superhero movies.
[01:02:23] June Diane Raphael: I mean, we still Rotten Tomatoes or No, we saw what we saw.
[01:02:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.
[01:02:28] June Diane Raphael: You know.
[01:02:28] Paul Scheer: We did see what we saw.
[01:02:28] June Diane Raphael: We saw what we saw and it is something to see. Like that's the thing about this movie.
[01:02:33] I will give it, first of all, nice hour and a half.
[01:02:36] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Oh nice.
[01:02:37] Jason Mantzoukas: The time on this was perfect.
[01:02:39] June Diane Raphael: Perfect. And you know, it is so wild that it is absolutely something to behold.
[01:02:47] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[01:02:48] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[01:02:48] June Diane Raphael: Even if you had just watched the opening. Just the opening until those meteors come crashing down.
[01:02:52] Jason Mantzoukas: For sure. And but the other thing I will say is we didn't talk about, and I'm curious because, uh, I am, as we know, childless, um, and you guys are not, as we've established, Paul does know your son.
[01:03:04] Paul Scheer: But Jason, I've offered it to you multiple times. You can take any, we have two, so you could take a one.
[01:03:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Great. Again, that is such a strange offer. Um, uh, what did you think of the letter he writes to his children at the end of the movie? The actually, that he's trying to write throughout, throughout the movie, but then succeeds and sends at the end?
[01:03:25] Movie Audio: Dear Faith and Dave,
[01:03:29] Being a parent is hard. If I don't tell you this stuff now, I might not be able to tell you later. Protecting my kids was the most important part of my life.
[01:03:44] But I held on too long. I was afraid to let you guys grow up. Please forgive my trespasses. I promised mom I'd keep you safe, but you ended up saving me. And your mom would be so proud of her children. I know it's true that if I make it through this, it'll be because of you guys. Just remember I'm with you. Always.
[01:04:12] Jason Mantzoukas: It got me. It got me. I'll be honest.
[01:04:13] June Diane Raphael: I actually. Yes, I, I did. I I liked what he said. I was so curious about the way that he wrote it.
[01:04:20] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[01:04:20] June Diane Raphael: And I think it's because he's so used to like short, um, missives and, and, and coding. But there's not a paragraph to be found in there.
[01:04:30] Jason Mantzoukas: No, it's, it's all disjointed sentences, single sentence ideas.
[01:04:34] Paul Scheer: Well, he is, I mean, he is saving the world at the same time.
[01:04:36] Jason Mantzoukas: He does not, he does not have emotional growth and that's part of it.
[01:04:40] June Diane Raphael: No, well, he does end up at the shower at the end, but I think.
[01:04:43] Jason Mantzoukas: With Eva Longoria.
[01:04:45] Paul Scheer: And he wore the shirt.
[01:04:46] Jason Mantzoukas: The grandpa shark shirt.
[01:04:47] June Diane Raphael: He wore the shirt. But what would've helped his growth, I think, is if he ultimately needed to turn off surveillance on his daughter if he ultimately.
[01:05:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes or to like delete the, um, the ex-wife, the dead wife's.
[01:05:05] June Diane Raphael: To let go of her and to assume that she's going to be okay and the decisions she makes, like he's not helping her. That never really happens.
[01:05:15] Jason Mantzoukas: Wouldn't it have been awesome? And now this is not the movie that we saw, obviously. If the machines common because they have so much access to the data. What if they started sending him messages that sounded like they were from his dead wife?
[01:05:31] Paul Scheer: Whoa.
[01:05:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Ah. You know what I mean? That's what we.
[01:05:33] Paul Scheer: Maybe she's been in the data.
[01:05:34] Jason Mantzoukas: The world that we're living in, where AI can spoof any of us because it has access to so many hours of our voices or what AI is so powerful.
[01:05:43] The world we live in, people are being deceived by AI versions of the people they love.
[01:05:48] Paul Scheer: Yes.
[01:05:48] Jason Mantzoukas: Wouldn't that have been interesting if the way the machines were trying to obfuscate what they were doing was to have his, suddenly, his phone rings and it's his his dead wife.
[01:05:59] Paul Scheer: Well, but here's the thing.
[01:05:59] June Diane Raphael: Well, again, I ask you what do the machines actually want to do?
[01:06:03] Jason Mantzoukas: Exactly.
[01:06:03] Paul Scheer: But they don't. That's the thing. They don't want to do anything because they're not interested in deceiving. They just wanna drink the milkshake like we are 7 11 and they're coming to drink our data Slurpee. Like that's it.
[01:06:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Wait, okay. Okay, so this, so this is a big drink. So for you, this is about drinking.
[01:06:21] Paul Scheer: This is a drinking.
[01:06:22] Jason Mantzoukas: Either milkshakes or Slurpee.
[01:06:23] Paul Scheer: Yeah. This is like when, when.
[01:06:24] Jason Mantzoukas: These guys are coming to drink.
[01:06:25] Paul Scheer: When Daniel Day Lewis says, I drink your milkshake, you put that in this movie. It's like, that's what the aliens are like. I drink your milkshake. And milkha data.
[01:06:33] June Diane Raphael: But is it just to drink our milkshake? Or is it to survive off of it? Or what is it? What is it?
[01:06:38] Jason Mantzoukas: Are they taking it somewhere?
[01:06:39] June Diane Raphael: Yeah, they're doing the better version of what we tried to do here.
[01:06:43] Paul Scheer: Like, no, they just are coming to take a drink. It's like we go to a place with a beach to go swimming. They're like, oh, that planet's got a lot of good data.
[01:06:51] June Diane Raphael: So it's for fun.
[01:06:53] Jason Mantzoukas: You think this is a vacation or on holiday?
[01:06:55] June Diane Raphael: Holiday?
[01:06:55] Paul Scheer: I think it's, it's a, it's like a buffet. We're a buffet and they're going from place to place.
[01:06:58] Jason Mantzoukas: So when we vacation, we go to, like museums. So they ch they pick vacation spots for data centers?
[01:07:03] Paul Scheer: Yes. And it's like, I think in my mind it's like, it's like brainiac doesn't brainiac go around from like planet to planet and suck up all their knowledge and then keeps 'em in little, little glass jars like the city.
[01:07:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Sort of. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:07:13] Paul Scheer: You know, that's, that's what's going on here. This is, uh, these are just.
[01:07:17] Jason Mantzoukas: I wish I knew
[01:07:17] Paul Scheer: Thirsty aliens.
[01:07:18] Jason Mantzoukas: I wish I knew what the alien's plan was. I would've enjoyed, like that's part of the thing is they're up against an antagonist that is just so, so inscrutable and so unknowable.
[01:07:29] June Diane Raphael: Yes.
[01:07:29] Jason Mantzoukas: You know, um, was tough.
[01:07:30] June Diane Raphael: You never even really get to see what they look like.
[01:07:33] Paul Scheer: Nope.
[01:07:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Nope.
[01:07:33] June Diane Raphael: It's always grainy. They do break off into a capsule at one point, which I thought was cool, but like we don't even get to really see them.
[01:07:40] Paul Scheer: Well, we couldn't afford that.
[01:07:41] Jason Mantzoukas: And also, like none of the information when he opens the Goliath files and we have, uh, obviously these machines have been here.
[01:07:48] It doesn't help him at all.
[01:07:50] Paul Scheer: Nope.
[01:07:50] Jason Mantzoukas: It's not like, oh, from the thirties we discovered that they are allergic to, you know, pollen or whatever. None of it. None of it works or helps.
[01:07:58] Paul Scheer: It's, I mean, just thankfully his daughter was working on this other virus, the cannibal virus.
[01:08:02] June Diane Raphael: Thank God.
[01:08:02] Paul Scheer: I mean, I guess all this is.
[01:08:03] Jason Mantzoukas: Thank God they are as a family, so singular in each of their abilities and positions. It's crazy.
[01:08:10] Paul Scheer: It really, really is. And I guess the question is, would you recommend this movie to other people to watch?
[01:08:16] June Diane Raphael: You know what? As I said it, there is something to it. It is. So again, if only for the first 15 minutes, yeah. I think this is worth getting your eyes on.
[01:08:28] Paul Scheer: I had no problem watching it. I will say even at a tight 90.
[01:08:31] June Diane Raphael: It went down pretty smooth.
[01:08:32] Paul Scheer: It went down smooth. But there was like, until that, that third act kicks in. Yes. Like I was like, there's like a little bit of a time where you're like, okay, well what's happening next? And then once, once we get into the Amazon Prime, once we get into the Tesla, honestly.
[01:08:44] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.
[01:08:45] Paul Scheer: We're in great shape. Uh, but there's a little bit of time in between where.
[01:08:49] Jason Mantzoukas: This is the kind of movie that I think absolutely, for the sake of the episode, watch it. But also like this is the kind of movie that you can watch it while you're making coffee in the morning.
[01:09:00] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah.
[01:09:00] Jason Mantzoukas: Like it does not demand you turn out the lights and sit down and give it your full attention. It's, it's, it, it's okay in the background and it, you'll enjoy it enough and it will be good for the episode. Uh, for, for this episode
[01:09:15] Paul Scheer: You need to see, you need to see some of it. And I, I, I highly recommend everybody in it. I cannot wait to see Andrea Savage. We have a lunch planned and I am gonna, uh, find out everything detail I possibly can.
[01:09:25] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my God,
[01:09:26] Paul Scheer: About it. And I'm sure she's also being inundated as people have.
[01:09:28] Jason Mantzoukas: So curious.
[01:09:30] Paul Scheer: Um, Jason, June. Uh, you wanna plug anything, June? Uh, what do you got?
[01:09:35] June Diane Raphael: Well, I don't know if it's, I don't know if Weapons is still in the movie theaters, but if it is, I definitely recommend that movie and going to see it. It's so much fun to watch with an audience.
[01:09:44] Paul Scheer: Really great movie. So much fun.
[01:09:46] Uh, Jason, what about you?
[01:09:48] Jason Mantzoukas: Um, you know what, I don't really have anything, but I'll shout out. Um, Taskmaster Season 19, um, is on YouTube now, so check it out.
[01:09:56] Paul Scheer: I love it. I will, uh, shout out, uh, Dark Web every Monday on, uh, YouTube, uh, me and Rob Huebel, totally free. Everybody. Thank you for listening. And if you have questions, concerns, observations that we didn't quite get to, gimme a call at 6-1-9 P-A-U-L-A-S-K or just go to our discord at Discord.gg/HDTGM because Last Looks, we will break down all of them or as many that are interesting.
[01:10:22] And last but not least, I gotta thank our entire team for whom the show could not be done without. I'm talking about our producer, Scott Sonne and Molly Reynolds, our movie picking producer, Avaryl Halley, and our engineer Casey Holford. Alright, uh, guys, we'll see you next time.
[01:10:36] Jason Mantzoukas: Woo.
[01:10:37] June Diane Raphael: See you next time.
[01:10:37] Paul Scheer: Wow.
[01:10:38] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay. Clicky clackity, click clackity.